This questoin is for the folks who already have the Touch HD in hand. I have seen a bunch of YouTube VDOs and read a zillion reviews. But I am still not clear on how the camera works on this device.
I currently have a HTC polaris using a Cooked ROM. The camera sucked bigtime wih the stock ROM. But I have to confess, even with the Cooked ROM, its really not that great, especially in the night time with the home lighting... Unless my hands are really steady, the picture gets blurry and there is atleast a sec delay between when I click the picture and from when it is captured. I guess its the auto focus.
Having said that, how is the camera on Touch HD. I know it has a 5MP autofocus... but I want to know the reality of it in a practial sceaniro. I have a 10 month old kid and I love to capture some moments by pulling out this device and click some pics and mail them to my friends and family. Since he is never steady at one place, I could never capture a good pic with Polaris.
My wife has a iPhone 2G and it captures really good instant pictures even in the home lighting at night.
Thanks in advance for you time and response.
Im dont know, every where I read, thay say that the cam is s..., and it takes 5 secs. from when I press till it takes the picture.
Is that right?
Stick with the Diamond, much better IMO. Only advantages of a HD is the bigger screen and more RAM, but I think the Diamond is much more useable.
To answer your question, that appears to be the case for me, yes.
"Only" the screen is a pretty major advantage, it's almost double the size. The Diamond isn't seriously usable for web browsing - the HD is. Ditto for video.
ChrisB said:
Im dont know, every where I read, thay say that the cam is s..., and it takes 5 secs. from when I press till it takes the picture.
Is that right?
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That's rubbish and completely untrue. I find the camera to be quite excellent and picture quality very good in fact.
I don't blame you though for getting that impression. Before I got my own unit, I also had that false impression from reading all the complaints on this forum. But after getting my own HD, I'm really happy with it. This is despite not having flash.
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That's rubbish and completely untrue. I find the camera to be quite excellent and picture quality very good in fact.
I don't blame you though for getting that impression. Before I got my own unit, I also had that false impression from reading all the complaints on this forum. But after getting my own HD, I'm really happy with it. This is despite not having flash.
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Exactly the HTC Touch HD is a great phone. Some people reading forum like this think they get a good sampling of what people using the phone think about it. That is not true since it is mostly the maybe 1% that have troubles of some kind with their phone that write here. The rest of the people that are happy with their phone do not write about.
The only thing I can recommend for people considering buying the phone is to get the phone and try it out. You will most likely like it a lot.
Camera is not bad, but also not good. Don't buy it as a camphone.
I've got a nokia n82 and a touch hd.
If the cam is ****? Yeah, it is. Don't let people let you think different. I guess it's not worse than other htc-phones though, I haven't had one since the original touch (elf).
If it was daylight out here now (denmark, actually) I should have taken comparision shots for you, but it's not, and with the xenon flash on the n82 it is even more superior in this light.
That said, the touch hd is a fantastic device in every other aspect! I didn't buy it for the cam, and don't care about it's picture quality, since I've got my n82.
The camera is only suitable for taking pictures in well-lit area.
Forget about dark areas.
All in all I'm sufficiently pleased with it, as I did not expect anything great.
Hello
Yes the Cam is ****
very slow slow slow and it only does pictures in very light areas.
In the drak they are very dark - the missing flash is a desaster.
Do not buy the hd for taking pictures or videos
But also safe you monry on fu.. nokia modells
IMHO...
The quality of the photos that the Touch HD can take is far better than the three HTC devices I've used before. It's actually pretty good in my limited experience with it. However, the camera remains virtually unusable because of two things:
1 - the delay between tapping the screen and the photo taking the image while the camera fusses over the focussing and then thinks for a couple of seconds
2 - the lack of hardware button makes camera shake very hard to avoid
These two factors make it almost impossible to take a photo of a moving scene because of the unpredictability of the timing of the shot and the likelihood of camera shake.
Attached is a photo I've just taken in the low evening light that illustrates what should be a perfectly easy photo. I couldn't avoid camera shake even standing still and being ultra-careful. The exposure isn't bad though.
the cam is bad... only usable by normal daylight also video recording is very bad
well in normal daylight the cam is better than my n73. video is realy better...
Are there some tweaks or settings to speed up taking images? It's really slooooow...
TIP: Disable the "Auto Whiteness" in the camera.
I have spent the last 2 weeks playing with the camera and was very disappointed with low level lighting pictures at first, BUT! now I have ressolved this problem.
There is an option in the camera "Auto Whiteness", the sensor or software in the camera seems to be useless at judging lighting, so if you set this to manual and select the indoor lighting icon (looks like a light bulb) then the camera gives quite impressive low level lighting pictures.
Speed of the camera between pressing and taking a picture is about 3 seconds, not the worst shutter delay I have seen on a camera phone, but not the best. Hopefully HTC can address this with future software updates??
For me the main issue is the blurryness of virtually all pictures,
if its a picture of a person I have to ask them to be still, then I take a pic and then I have to ask them once more to be DEAD STILL.
Most people take stay still to mean don't walk off any where but with the Touch HD stay still means don't let one muscle move.
If you want a phone that takes decent picture then its not or you.
Its a multimedia phone (pics not included)
I have been playing with the HD for two days now, which meant finding all of the tweaks and then removing them until it works for me. The excellent tweak app (search for it here) recommends enabling the sport and burst modes of photo (works great) and then changing the maximum res to 3M (makes my phone crash!)
Anyway if you want to take really good SHAKE FREE pics the ONLY way is through the burst/sport options. The auto focus for the 'normal' cam is so crap that the shutter stays open forever. In sport or burst mode the camera has to ditch the refocus and just shoot - out of the 5 in sport or 30 in burst you will have two or 10 decent pictures. This was exactly the same on my old HTC P3900.
The video is still completely crap - although much improved if you shoot as for MMS.
If we're talking about very low light, even my Canon camera does not give good result. So I don't expect miracle from HD. Having said that, I have taken quite a lot of indoor shots with lights on and the result is not noticeably worst than what my Canon camera can deliver.
As for motion, I actually don't find any problem there. I have taken quite many shots with car moving towards and away from me and the sharpness is still there. No blurring at all.
I find vido recording to be really good.
The lack of hardware button is a non-issue for me. I find it very easy to just touch the screen, the try to hold it still for the process to be completed.
This is the best camera I've ever had in a phone, and I find myself using it quite a lot since getting my HD.
This is seriously the worst camera I've ever had in a phone. And the sad part is the auto focus which is way too slow and cannot be disabled. No other tweak will help really unless somebody will figure out how to set focus to infinity permanently.
Attached are photos taken with the HTC Touch HD at night in New York City last week:
YESSSSSS IT SUCKSSSSSSS!
Auto light balance is useless, shutter speed is miserably slow (not even for a still photo) , no flash , video is worthless. 5 MP not in full screen (in full screen it is 4MP) .
If you have kids and want to take a photo for them then please wait till thy sleep and start shooting , other wise you will be wasting only your time and battery .
It is even too bad in watching movies without setting hours and hours converting them!
I hope it is not a hardware issue and only software that can be updated later .
No cam-mobile , yes surf-mobile and nav-mobile.
Ok I have I Touch HD, on the whole I have been very impressed with my touch HD, apart from the poor camera when not in brght day light.
I'm am due an upgrade soon, I am certainly considering the HD2, but i need to know is the camera better than the previous HD?
I understand not all phone cameras are great, but my Nokia N95 shot fantastic video indoorsm and the sound was clear even in night clubs it didnt distort. I would love to get back to this quality again.
I'm conidering the new sony erricson and Nokias, but I'd much prefer to get HD2, window mobile and HTCs front ends are much better than others I have used.
If the HD2 isnt up to scratch does anyone know of any new windows mobile devices that have camera performance equal to the Nokia I spoke about?
Thanks
Has anyone able to compare these two phones yet? I currently have the older HTC HD and I now want to upgrade my phone either to the HTC HD2 or the Nexus One.
I don't know which one is better for me.
Outside using it as a phone, I like to use it to watch videos and use the GPS system. On my current HTC HD phone, I already have CorePlayer (latest version) and I am using Garmin as my 3rd party navigation system.
I also like to take good pictures and capture videos. The HTC HD is terrible in taking photos and capturing videos.
Please, search befor opening new threads.
Your answer is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610117&highlight=hd2+nexus
The stuff you have on your HD should work on the HD2 as well. The HD2 has a slghtly better camera than the Nexus one (better software, better flash and picture quality seems to be a bit better). For GPS, nothing can beat Windows Mobile.
Two phones are same structure
only problem - HD2 comes with bigger screen and a very weak 1230mAh battery.
Taking photos using HD2 is freaking fast especially when compared to the Touch HD.
And HD2 can capture videos up to 640x480 pixels about 3 time higher in resolution than the Touch HD that is capable only at CIF.
Currently using this ROM:
htcpedia.com/Dutty_rom_Hybrid6_hd2/reviews/rom-builds.html
Is the quality of the photos meant to be like this?
I'm using the BsB tweaks, with quality on 'Very High', still looks terrible.
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If you have enabled the "superfine" quality in camera settings as well, then you probably was shacking your hand in the keyboard shot... and regarding the second shot... well, that's a phone camera for you
I'm not going around with my coolpix S2 anymore since I bought this HD2, yet I do miss it most of the times when I need to shoot at things...
I've tried everything, but the camera seems to be just for fun. Nowhere as good as my last three phones (Sony Ericsson) wich had as good a camera as was ever needed. Still love my HD2 to bits.