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Can somebody please make me a fast and stable 6.5 with just the newest manila or touchflo? doesnt have to be anything fancy, just fast and stable.
thanks!

Hi, I can't really help you, but may I ask what you thought of NFSFAN's newest ROM? I found it very fast and reasonably stable a few versions back, it's probably one of the best you'll find. It includes both touchflo2d (manila) and the new Microsoft today screen.

i like it but i like manila better than titanium, and if im running manila, it takes up 40-50 percent of my memory, so therefore i want just manila

Just go into your settings, then go into Today, second tabs
From there you can uncheck Ms' new today and check Touchflo

jake044 said:
i like it but i like manila better than titanium, and if im running manila, it takes up 40-50 percent of my memory, so therefore i want just manila
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Hm, when you're running Manila, Titanium shouldn't be using any of your memory. If I remember correctly, Manila always used around 40%, even on wm6.1 and wm6.0.

t1mman said:
Just go into your settings, then go into Today, second tabs
From there you can uncheck Ms' new today and check Touchflo
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yeah i know that.
brsev said:
Hm, when you're running Manila, Titanium shouldn't be using any of your memory. If I remember correctly, Manila always used around 40%, even on wm6.1 and wm6.0.
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ok thanks.
i just like manila cause it looks cool and 6.5 for the larger scroll bars and start menu..

Help with Transparent Clock

Hi all,
I am trying to install a Transparent Clock but am having little luck.
Ideally I would like the transparent clock w/ weather found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589181
I have tried that one as well as Matt's Crystal Clock. Can't get either to work - my clock does not change (even after soft reset).
I am thinking (but hoping not) it has something to do with my (and sorry I am new to this) windows version and/or manila version and/or TF3D version ???
I have WM6.1, TF3D 2.1.38420.2, and I am sad to say I don't even know how to check what manila I have...
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Ryan

nayr1482 said:
Hi all,
I am trying to install a Transparent Clock but am having little luck.
Ideally I would like the transparent clock w/ weather found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589181
I have tried that one as well as Matt's Crystal Clock. Can't get either to work - my clock does not change (even after soft reset).
I am thinking (but hoping not) it has something to do with my (and sorry I am new to this) windows version and/or manila version and/or TF3D version ???
I have WM6.1, TF3D 2.1.38420.2, and I am sad to say I don't even know how to check what manila I have...
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Ryan
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what rom are you using? is that a custom rom or stock rom?

stock rom (company phone so...)

I have WM6.1, TF3D 2.1.38420.2, and I am sad to say I don't even know how to check what manila I have...
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TF3D = Manila

mhurg said:
TF3D = Manila
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OK, well then I have manila 2.1 correct ??? And from what I have read, manila 2.1 is identifiable from having weather on the HOME screen ???
But I have never had weather on the home tab and have not had any luck getting it to work...any ideas ???

here is the EXACT weather clock that I want - is this possible ???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4934485&postcount=297

If it is a regluar TP2 (unbranded), go to HTC.com and download the WM 6.5 ROM and install it on your phone. That gives you WM 6.5 and a Sense 2.1 (which has the weather clock).
Just make sure you backup your contacts and other info you might need, because it's like formatting a PC - everything gets deleted. It's worth it though and shouldn't take more than 15 mins to do. Then you get your weather clock AND the Crystal Clock CAB will work ;-)

mhurg said:
If it is a regluar TP2 (unbranded), go to HTC.com and download the WM 6.5 ROM and install it on your phone. That gives you WM 6.5 and a Sense 2.1 (which has the weather clock).
Just make sure you backup your contacts and other info you might need, because it's like formatting a PC - everything gets deleted. It's worth it though and shouldn't take more than 15 mins to do. Then you get your weather clock AND the Crystal Clock CAB will work ;-)
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Hey, thanks a lot. I do not have an unbranded one however, I have Verizon. I checked HTC.com and it says wm6.5 for Verizon will be available in Dec/Jan.
I am assuming I should wait for that or would it be "safe" to download the unbranded one ???
Thanks
Ryan

nayr1482 said:
Hey, thanks a lot. I do not have an unbranded one however, I have Verizon. I checked HTC.com and it says wm6.5 for Verizon will be available in Dec/Jan.
I am assuming I should wait for that or would it be "safe" to download the unbranded one ???
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Well you could try to find an unofficial ROM here on the forums that might work, but I must admit I haven't tried out any of them myself. Personally I'd just wait the few weeks until the official version was released, but it's up to you
Downloading an unbranded one from HTC.com won't work, however. There is more to it than that - check out the Rhodium ROM forums for more info. Good luck anyway

Install this, soft reset

How come none of the transparent clock, i've installed like 3 of them doesns't work on stock roms (sprint).
I have TF3D 2.1
Am i missing something?

kasim1 said:
How come none of the transparent clock, i've installed like 3 of them doesns't work on stock roms (sprint).
I have TF3D 2.1
Am i missing something?
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Found it Here on PPCgeeks so many of them. Looks VERY nice !!!
Works with stock Sprint Rom.

can anyone post the manila files for this clock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4934485&postcount=297
???
if so i can make a cab for everyone!

nayr1482 said:
can anyone post the manila files for this clock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4934485&postcount=297
???
if so i can make a cab for everyone!
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Thats not Manila, I think its SPB.

ai6908 said:
Thats not Manila, I think its SPB.
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i would think that however it is generated, it starts with .png files doesnt it ???
i can work with the manila files or .png

15 Tabs and Manila 2.1 Sliders

Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.

You made me laugh Manilla 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE does NOT excist. Manilla = Sense...
Manilla 2.1 is called sense.
Manilla 2.5 is called sense.

Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...

Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)

Talon Pro said:
Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...
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dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5

Hold ur fire!! This make me a little confused too. So what's real difference between Manila & Sense??

Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D

radon222 said:
Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)
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Using any numbers in the search (simple or advanced) gains only an error, which is why i posted. Try searching for '15 tabs' and itll go to the advanced search page with 'No results'...
kitchencop said:
dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5
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Well, you remain wrong on that
Mektah said:
Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D
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I disagree a little, there IS a difference between Manila 2.1 and 2.1 w/Sense. Try putting a Sense item on regular 2.1 and watch it break. I tried PPCgeeks.com to sort out the TP2 stuff, got much support, but they didnt do anything about it. When you ask for customized stuff, everyone assumes youre using a cooked version of 6.5 (which has Sense 2.1 or 2.5 depending the ROM/Chef), not 6.1, and then the Manila version gets even more in the way of stuff.
I mean i like my TP2, it works like the TP1 should have, but the TP1 had so much more support for the stock ROM's and 6.1.

Talon Pro said:
Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.
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For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE

sirphunkee said:
For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE
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Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help

Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.

kimtyson said:
Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.
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No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Talon Pro said:
Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help
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Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.

sirphunkee said:
No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.
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Yes it was the one i wanted. Now im looking for a taskbar of the same lol. I didnt know that HDWalls was a program, thought it was just a 'image on all tabs' thing.
Thanks.

How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far

Talon Pro said:
How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far
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Navigation Icon? I don't have a 'navigation' tab on my 6.1, so I'm guessing that it's not part of the regular set of tabs and therefore there's not a provision for it in the usual list of manila files for the icons.
If you (or somebody) can just pin down the exact name of the manila file for that specfic tab's icons, you can use HDWalls to create one (for a different tab), and then just rename it to match the odd manila file related to the nav. tab. Let me know if that makes sense...I can do it better than I can describe it lol

I have the Touch Pro2 which still has TF3D 2.1 (non-sense lol).
How do i go about locating it? I know the files are in the Windows folder, but how to view them? Guess ill do some google searching too.

I also want the comm manager tab and the programs tab back, that was on the TP1...

Try CFC GUI and make your icons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798
Have never heard of a navigation tab though, but if exists, you'll be able to find it with CFC GUI

PLEASE help me understand...

I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?

billybag said:
I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?
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First you have to know what version of manila you're using. Are you using stock rom?

sounds like he doesnt have touchflo at all....
update rom, maybe then try...

It goes by different names... see if you have something called HTC Sense in your home items. Or Manilla
How are you trying to install the theme's? Are you talking about a theme for the menu bars (top and bottom) or are you talking about a theme for HTC Sense (Aka Touch flo 3d)
Each should basically install via a cab which is an install program. If its a standard windows mobile theme which will just change the background the bars then you just have to move the theme file which you can move over to a folder onto your phone (not SD card) and you should see it in your themes section in home settings.
If you want to switch appearance of HTC Sense/TouchFlo3d/Manilla... whatever you want to call it You can try this too... Theme Switcher] it looks interesting although Ive never tried it
Hope this helps

go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items

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go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items
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it is used to modify windows desktop theme, not manila theme
manila only supports change wallpaper,
if you want modify manila's theme, you need to modify theme code of manila

Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.

And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?

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And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?
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ummm... you might wanna look into that alittle bit more. cookies home screen works with sense also, 2.1 or 2.5.
TF3D= pretty much the just wm6.1 and what i call a "test" for sense
2.1= pretty much wm6.5 and like TF3d but with graphic improvements and stuff.
2.5= ment for the HD2 but since were cool we ripped it, but pretty much same as 2.1 but just an updated version pretty much
if i may suggest a ROM for you it would be this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507
just scroll down to the 2nd post and look for "- valkyrie.ftp v6.7.21904-TR2.5 28th MAY wm6.5 without extra tabbs" it has cookie cooked it it
that would more than likely fit you since its a basic version and has good things preloaded with it. but if you want more than just that then go for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
just look for the download button with sense 2.5 and that has the cookie mod already cooked in it as well
just make sure to hardSPL your rhodium before you do any of this. for any more info just look in the ROM development thread and look for things in there.
with that said im done for today and im going to sleep

billybag said:
Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.
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Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.

Aaron McCarthy said:
Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.
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It doesn't work with 2.1 I already tried a while ago and ended up having to hard reset my phone, losing everything, because it screwed it up.

Transparent stuff and videos

I just got my HTC Touch Pro 2 2 months ago, and it came with Mobile 6.5. Ever since, I've been screwing with it, and I just landed on this forum as well as some other sites. I'm seeing people using words like TF3D, Manila, Sense, etc, which I have no idea what they are.
I'm just trying to figure out how to make my clock transparent, background on all pages and play divx/xvid videos. I found a 9 page long BG for all pages thread, and I found a cab that worked to make all pages the wallpaper, but it messed up my clock in the process. The accompanying cab to restore the clock didn't work. The screenshot of the clock is attached to this post.
I noticed no divx/xvid capability in WMP just like the Windows for Desktops, but it seems like getting those videos to play was more complicated than I thought. I tried the divx player which is just slow. Can someone guide a newbie around?

The easiest way...
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He isn't using manila 2.5.
Sense/manila are the same thing, it's just that older versions of manila were called the TouchFlo (TF3D) and the newest builds which are manila 2.1 and manila 2.5 are also referred to as sense 2.1 and sense 2.5. How you can tell which you have is going on the settings tab and looking at the "About" (or something lol sorry) and it should say. Another way is seeing as how you don't have any shortcut buttons on your Home tab means 2.1 .
Sorry I can't help you with your clock issue, try looking up "sense 2.1 clock" and try installing one but keep in mine the details as to what else will be installed along side the clock .

Get TCPMP for playing videos. It won't play everything, but is far better then WMP. Best player around for the TP2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5685536#post5685536
If the cab you installed messed up your clock, try uninstalling the cab.

Got transparent clock and BG on all pages working for 2.1, using the 3 cabs I've attached.
Only things left I'm working on are 1% battery meter and the 1:02 clock flip fix. I found a clock cab I'll install now. The battery meter I heard requires custom taskbars to show it? Just gotta dig around more to find out which ones will work.

buru898 said:
He isn't using manila 2.5.
Sense/manila are the same thing, it's just that older versions of manila were called the TouchFlo (TF3D) and the newest builds which are manila 2.1 and manila 2.5 are also referred to as sense 2.1 and sense 2.5. How you can tell which you have is going on the settings tab and looking at the "About" (or something lol sorry) and it should say. Another way is seeing as how you don't have any shortcut buttons on your Home tab means 2.1 .
Sorry I can't help you with your clock issue, try looking up "sense 2.1 clock" and try installing one but keep in mine the details as to what else will be installed along side the clock .
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be careful about what you try to use! check your manila version. most of cookies stuff is for 2.5, as well as most of the stuff on here and it can bite you if your not careful(had to do several hard resets when i got mine because i did't read) i got my phone in feb. but it still has 2.1 so unless your ready to flash a rom to upgrade, store all of your cabs on your storage card to save yourself some headaches.

Sorry about that. I didn't realize you were using Sense 2.1. Hopefully no damage done.
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be careful about what you try to use! check your manila version. most of cookies stuff is for 2.5, as well as most of the stuff on here and it can bite you if your not careful(had to do several hard resets when i got mine because i did't read) i got my phone in feb. but it still has 2.1 so unless your ready to flash a rom to upgrade, store all of your cabs on your storage card to save yourself some headaches.
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No worries. Still learning about this stuff myself. Working on getting stuff off my ipod and onto my phone but I have a handful of DRM protected things. That's a bit more complicated than I thought. Once I can work around that, get my usb -> headset adapter and a fm transmitter, I'll have succeeded in combining my Samsung Gravity, iPod Nano, and iPod Touch into one device: HTC Touch Pro 2.