How much data usage!!?? - Nexus One General

So, I use netcounter to keep track of my data usage, as I'm sure many others do. My Vodafone contract, that I started a year ago with my HTC Magic, gives me 500MB a month. This has always been plenty - sometimes getting a bit close if I decide to download a couple of custom roms while out the house.
The last week or so though, my usage has SKYROCKETED for no apparent reason.
Netcounter says I've used 302.95MB of non-wifi data TODAY, and it's 9:30am!! I've just woken up! PLUS I've had wifi turned on throughout the night!
What seems suspicious to me is that of that 300+MB only 8.23MB was recieved - 294.71MB was SENT from my phone, between midnight and now, over 3g, when it was connected to the wifi the whole time.
I've apparently used over 1GB in the last 7 days. 90% of which was sent from the phone. I have absolutely no clue what is causing this, and to be honest I'm somewhat praying that it's a glitch with netcounter... otherwise my phone bill is not going to be pretty...
Anyone know of any apps I may have installed that could be causing this? Or any other processes that could have the same effect? As it was so much data sent I thought maybe it was different apps sending anonymous usage data, but switching off all of those that I could find doesn't seem to have solved it D:

I used about 700MB last month...

My bill says 3,7 Gigas...
I tend to use & abuse tethering...
12€ unlimited data plan. Isn´t it at Voda UK?

Check what apps/services are running, could be something going a-miss somewhere.
Seems a bit wierd you had a load of xfer over 3g even with wifi enabled though - maybe try and force 2G only and see what the logging program says then?

justclimb said:
My bill says 3,7 Gigas...
I tend to use & abuse tethering...
12€ unlimited data plan. Isn´t it at Voda UK?
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Sadly unlimited isn't actually unlimited. 500MB "fair usage" and I think you get charged when you go over that...

As Highland3r says: just use wifi and force 2g only. I use netcounter too, and it says I've only used 3.6mb 3g and 130.73mb over wifi in the last 7 days (only had phone for 5 days actually).
If you think it's a glitch try reinstalling netcounter or something.

Running processes (courtesy of advanced task killer);
Set CPU
Google Mail
Pure Calendar Widget
Dialer One
Browser
Market
Clock
News and Weather - updating stories every 6 hours
Facebook - no auto wall refresh
Babbler Lite - notifications ON
Touiteur - 15 minute updates
WaveSecure - been running for months
Messaging
Settings
MP3 Store
Sensorly Map Viewer - not sure why it auto runs, doubt it would cause to much data use
Hullo Mail
NetCounter

I'm in the UK with 3 Unlimited Data Plan (1GB Fare Usage)
I use 3G watchdog to make sure i dont go over and it works a treat, i ALWAYS surf the internet download ROMs and apps using 3G but i havent used much lol
40MB used in the last 5 days, ( i havent downloaded any ROMs for a while though lol)
Maybe u shud try using 3G watchdog at the same time as the app your using at the minute
it will show you if the app is messing up or just confirm that you are somehow sending alot of data to someone through 3G

Same thing happening to me!
Although here in Argentina is much more limited, but I try not to use EDGE, and it consumed 1mb download and 26mb upload.
I don't know what does it upload...

LOL Vodaphone sucks hard. I get 3gb with T-Mobile USA.

News and Weather - updating stories every 6 hours
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If you are using the news and weather widget to display news stories, you'll notice that every single time it cycles to a new story it uses a tiny bit of data. If you've set it to also download pictures for stories, I could see how overnight it could use a ridiculous amount of data.

cekle said:
If you are using the news and weather widget to display news stories, you'll notice that every single time it cycles to a new story it uses a tiny bit of data. If you've set it to also download pictures for stories, I could see how overnight it could use a ridiculous amount of data.
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You wouldnt expect that to upload data though?
Did you try another app to measure and/or killing 3G and seeing if that makes a difference?

It's probably a wild guess, but do you use the Voice Recognition a lot? It send the audio to Google and returns text, so it uploads much more than it downloads.
But I don't think it would be that much.

Well even with wifi turned on, andriod by default puts the wifi to sleep when your phone(display) does to sleep too. So if you had some culprit program running the background, even with wifi turned on it'll still use the cell network by default as long as your phone as asleep.

So... I've been monitoring the usage throughout the day...
Reached about 20MB of data over wifi today, which is reasonable for the amount of browsing I've done on it. At last check (about 2-3 hours ago) cell data was at 0B, as it should be with wifi on.
Pulled it out of my pocket just now - 3G icon was in the notifications bar... thought that was probably a bad sign... 65.42MB 3G data used... 95% sent, 5% received...
ARRRGGGHHHH D:
I never use voice recognition. What the hell is uploading all this data? And WHAT data is it uploading? /:

Lazzzara said:
Sensorly Map Viewer - not sure why it auto runs, doubt it would cause to much data use
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Sensorly turns itself on if you do any of the following:
Turn on or off GPS
Turn on or off WiFi
Turn on the phone
In addition, when the app starts, it will turn on wifi.
It's a cool app, but if you have GPS on, and it kicks in and you forget to kill it, your battery is down 50% in an hour. It's extremely frustrating that something so useful is so damn annoying. It's almost malware. I uninstalled it from my phone.

I uninstalled sensorly last night... so it's not that.
Might try uninstalling WaveSecure. Pretty sure it's not auto-backing-up anything as on the site I only have the sms and call data from when I purposely told it to back up... but worth a try...
the only other apps I've added recently are...
Gmail Notifier
Gesture Search
Dialer One
that's about it... ):

I had the same issue a couple of weeks back, I was at the point of only setting my APN to the correct value only when I wanted data enabled, usually just for an hour a day over lunch due to it going crazy downloading something. After a week of doing this the issue appears to have gone away and I am back to leaving data enabled 24/7 with an average of 10-15MB per day inc normal useage. From my orginaly post on this forum I was given the following advice to try and track down the issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633169
dial *#*#4636#*#*
go into battery history
change the first drop down to "network usage" and see which apps are using the most.

bpmorris said:
I had the same issue a couple of weeks back, I was at the point of only setting my APN to the correct value only when I wanted data enabled, usually just for an hour a day over lunch due to it going crazy downloading something. After a week of doing this the issue appears to have gone away and I am back to leaving data enabled 24/7 with an average of 10-15MB per day inc normal useage. From my orginaly post on this forum I was given the following advice to try and track down the issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633169
dial *#*#4636#*#*
go into battery history
change the first drop down to "network usage" and see which apps are using the most.
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WOW! Thank you for this! But... as much as it's shown me the problem... it's made it all the more terrifying...
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MAPS?! That's not exactly an app I want to get rid of any time soon... time to go searching through the settings for anything crazy...

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Data being sent while phone is sleeping

How can I tell what app is sending data? I installed netcounter and it says that it is sending TONNES of wireless data. My bill is wayyy over because if it! I need to know what app is doing it! I've disabledmy data for now over cell network. Its weird because I am on wifi, but it is sending over cell network when the phone is asleep
Wifi turns off when the screen is off by default.
Settings>Wireless&Network>Wi-Fi Settings>Menu button>Advance>WiFi sleep policy and chose NEVER. That way when screen goes to sleep WiFi is still connected and your mobile data doesn't kick in.
Try trafficstats from the market, to what is using data...
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With the option to keep wifi on while sleeping, you not only will not use celular data when sleeping, it will actually save battery life too.
tonnic said:
How can I tell what app is sending data? I installed netcounter and it says that it is sending TONNES of wireless data. My bill is wayyy over because if it! I need to know what app is doing it! I've disabledmy data for now over cell network. Its weird because I am on wifi, but it is sending over cell network when the phone is asleep
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By tonnes what do you mean? I can't imagine your phone is doing this and you're not telling it to, unless "tonnes" means a few k here and there.
Find Battery History via Any Cut and check network usage.
2 gigs uploaded in two nights.
How is a gig per night uploaded without you knowing? My phone almost never uploads, it downloads if anything. That is a ridiculous amount of data being used as well. I can only ever use that much tethering. You'd basically hit 30 gigs per month at this rate which is near impossible unless you are aware of your downloads/uploads or tether
It looks like k-9 mail. So far after using trafficstats lite, k9 is uploading a MB every few seconds....luckily with the option to keep wifi on, I'm not racking up more money.....so far I'm over my data plan by $100 and Rogers wont do anything about it.
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Looks like it's time to uninstall k9 mail then. Or at least try and track down the bug and fix the problem.
tonnic said:
It looks like k-9 mail. So far after using trafficstats lite, k9 is uploading a MB every few seconds....luckily with the option to keep wifi on, I'm not racking up more money.....so far I'm over my data plan by $100 and Rogers wont do anything about it.
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Couple of megs every few SECONDS?? Very, very doubtful. Can you upload a screenshot that isn't a 100 pixel thumbnail?
I can't imagine K9 doing ANY such thing anyway...
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Couple of megs every few SECONDS?? Very, very doubtful. Can you upload a screenshot that isn't a 100 pixel thumbnail?
I can't imagine K9 doing ANY such thing anyway...
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+1 !
I wish my home internet could even upload a few megs every few seconds. I never knew 3G was that damnnn fast. This almost beats my download speeds of 1.2MB/s!
I'm also with Rogers and gone over my plan. They WILL do something about it unless you have no idea what you're doing. I used to work for them and if you said what you're telling us here, I wouldn't credit you for anything because that's BS.
I don't wanna sound like an ass but you seem like a troll or just completely tech illiterate. You can't even post a picture correctly. You really think we can all read that?
I don't know what you mean by every few sec, so lets be safe and say 10 sec you do a mb. One minute and you're at 6mb. Therefore one day and you'll be uploading about 8gbs/day. Even if you upload a mb per minute, that still seems ridiculous. Everything you've told us so far sounds impossible. Especially since it's an email app (I'm assuming that's what K-9 is). This beats me tethering. I have a limit of 105 gigs per month on my rogers home internet cable and what your phone is using, passes that limit which is IMPOSSIBLE. You clearly are
a) trolling
b) doing something but too phone/tech/computer illiterate to know what you're doing
Suggestions: Don't get a smartphone
KAwAtA,
Your rude was at an 11, we need you more at a 4.
Anywho.. I think there's just some confusion going on.. K9 sending a few K a second every NOW and then I could maybe see.. although I doubt even that.. It'll sleep for up to 26 minutes by default on IDLE, so if no email, it's making zero data calls for up to 26 minutes, then it does an IDLE call to keep the connection alive. Now I've never actually monitored this, but I'm sure I could look in my mail logs to see, although I get mail enough that I doubt it'd be easy to find a 26 minute lull.

My battery saving tips (40-50h)

After many attempts, i have found the best combination of rom, radio, android, and phone settings so my hd2 t-mobile now can last 40-50 hours from single charge.
1. Energy rom without addons on home screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8640264&postcount=3
2. Mccm se V3.4 version for Android (with r8.5.1_eb kernel)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?
p=9241013&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787588
3. Radio 2.12.50.02_2
4. Exceller Multiple Build Loader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737001
5. Set wm in airplane mode, and turn off auto sync, background data and location in android, brightness to minimum
6. Use wifi, gps, mobile data or bluetooth only when needed
7. Install SetCPU and use settings from tihs page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734886
8. Use widget taskkiller every time before locking the phone.
With this settings my phone can last around 50 hours with single charge, and i use it for sending messages, calling, browsing over wifi and occasionally playing angry birds.
This represents moderate use for me, and it is enough for my daily use, but if you want something more buy spare battery
Warning: I own hd2 t-mobile version, so this combination maybe doesn't work on your phone, or maybe it's not compatible with your hd2!
Please check radio and rom compatibility before flashing!
Screenshot from my phone
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i believe you that your phone lasts more than 40 hours, but not everyone wants to disable auto sync, location and look onto such a beatiful huge screen which is almost dark
i prefer daily charge (lasts about 24h) with all the benefits which a smartphone has!
thx anyway for sharing your setup. it might help a lot of people.
Yes, but maybe someday you will find yourself on a desert island alone with your hd2, and my tips will surely be helpful to you
There is a day when we all want a little bit of extra juice
what app do you use to see how long you've had it unplugged
cb00 said:
what app do you use to see how long you've had it unplugged
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Settings, about phone, battery usage
cb00 said:
what app do you use to see how long you've had it unplugged
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Looks like Battery Indicator, free version available on the Market.
PS: Do you have an extended battery? (since 8.5.1_eb is for extended batteries)
No, I use 1200mah battery, hd2 stock battery.
And yes, it's battery indicator app, but it came preinstalled in my version of android.
all things that make it a smartphone, are off.
Like to buy a Ferrari but going at 20mph because otherwise it uses too much fuel....
rafpigna said:
all things that make it a smartphone, are off.
Like to buy a Ferrari but going at 20mph because otherwise it uses too much fuel....
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+1
rafpigna said:
all things that make it a smartphone, are off.
Like to buy a Ferrari but going at 20mph because otherwise it uses too much fuel....
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We better get a nokia 5110, it lasts a week without charging. Lol.
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Well guys use your phone as you want, no need to be sarcastic, maybe this will help to someone!
Maybe i would use data plan as well but it is just too expensive on my network, so i use my phone diferently than you
so... sorry to possibly hijack Your thread a bit my dear OP, but can You tell me my friends, how long can Your leo survive constant net usage? my standby drain is great, however when browsing with wifi or 3g, hd2 will live for about 4 - 5 hrs at most (well... let's call it a total net usage, as I've never had time to discharge it in one go... ).
is it more or less what You get? am I overreacting a bit??
My ROM and Android Version is not the newest and I did not look of the combination I installed, so I might have a rubbish setup. But atm. I can't get over the day with browsing, lessening music, data connection and a few calls and mails. Normally I run WM at daytime and after work I switch to Android.
Do you guys get over the day with a normal usage (like 16h), or do I expect to much??
I will try and let you know ;-)
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elvirr said:
Yes, but maybe someday you will find yourself on a desert island alone with your hd2, and my tips will surely be helpful to you
There is a day when we all want a little bit of extra juice
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Yeah, and I bet you'll look at your Leo and wish it was an EVO so it could transform into an airplane and fly you off that island!
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tomylee79 said:
My ROM and Android Version is not the newest and I did not look of the combination I installed, so I might have a rubbish setup. But atm. I can't get over the day with browsing, lessening music, data connection and a few calls and mails. Normally I run WM at daytime and after work I switch to Android.
Do you guys get over the day with a normal usage (like 16h), or do I expect to much??
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well... if I use it lightly (some web browsing, quite a few calls and txts, some email, etc.) then it will even last two days (less than 1% batt usage per hour in standby), however if I'll use net heavily, gps, gaming then combined use will be only about 4 - 6 hours.
I am changing radio from 2.14 to 2.15 in about an hour to check if it's going to be any difference.
my setup is: stock wwe 1.66 rom, android rom is froyostone 3.2 sense with hastarin kernel 8.5.1 and letama's patches.
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to stay on topic - I have setup as above, auto brightness, data connections enabled manually when needed. with "dumb phone" usage (texting, calling, some notes, calculations, calendar use, etc.) plus some light browsing I had 50% of batt left after all day yesterday. (unplugged @7am, 50% @9pm)
tobiascrystal said:
Yeah, and I bet you'll look at your Leo and wish it was an EVO so it could transform into an airplane and fly you off that island!
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Haha, exactly
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i get on average 48-55 hours with out diableing background, wifi and gps on alll the time. syncs 8 diferent email accounts every hour + the gmail is pushed .
ie: i use it as a smart phone.
worst i got was about 35 hours, kids were playing angry birds non stop...
Using the latest DarkStone and Hastarin 8.5.1oldcam, having auto killing tasks that I don't use, and setCPU at 1.07 Ghz I can last all day.
My first run on Android with my HD2 battery was terrible. but the new Kernel, and using the EB autoboot made battery totally improve, but still worse than my Nexus One. I have sync, and GPS disabled, Email updates only every hour, Twitter every 2 hours. and mine usually has around 60% left after work at 6PM, and It's fully charged and gets unplugged at 9:30 every morning.. so 8 hours and it's almost halfway gone, but when I'm not at work it lasts longer, cuz at work I constantly loose 3G, and get it back and it's constantly switching. I try to set to 2G while at work if I don't need 3G.
I change it on the way home, and use it the rest of the night.. no worries for me.

How I more than Doubled my Battery life with a simple toggle.

Greetings,
Guys, first of all, I'm no pro, this worked for me, it may not work for you, and its not the 'solution' for people who wish to be connected to internet 24/7.
- I have no Dataplan, Vibrant would connect and eat through my balance on EDGE/GPRS.
- I downloaded an app from Google Market, "Quick Settings" (search for it)
- Run Quick Settings and Turn off Mobile Data. It should show "Disconnected"
Basically, I did this with intention to save my precious hard earned money but the side effect appears to be that my Battery life suddenly has gone insane.
Before when I did have GPRS on, I would regularly check Advanced Task killer and kill apps in attempt to stop apps from connecting.
My use has been more or less same, I'm not a Power user, just take it to office, use now and then, and the battery would finish up in ~9 hours, 10 tops.
Anyway, here is the result
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My firmware is stock, (rooted):
I hope this can be useful for people who fit in same profile as me for the phone usage.
Keywords: Samsung Vibrant Save Battery extend life Galaxy sgh - t959
You can do this by just holding power then pressing Data Network.. or simply going into WiFi settings and disabling the phone from being connected from the internet.
Of course if you're using the phone without it being connected to the internet, a lot of power isn't going to be consumed. It's a smartphone, supposed to use the internet on it.
A tip I would recommend is to use SuperPower and it can do a bunch of tweaks to improve your battery (screen off; disables data.. things like that).
i dont have a dataplan either, but i DO text, if i do that, will it just turn off all communications like text and phone calls? I only use web when im at home with my WIFI.
I'm just wondering, why did you get a smartphone with no data? I see that you're not even using wifi. Why not just get a Windows 6.1 phone or a Blackberry or something?
xriderx66 said:
i dont have a dataplan either, but i DO text, if i do that, will it just turn off all communications like text and phone calls? I only use web when im at home with my WIFI.
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You can use Text and phone calls. Its on all the time.
I'm just wondering, why did you get a smartphone with no data? I see that you're not even using wifi. Why not just get a Windows 6.1 phone or a Blackberry or something?
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I do have access to WiFi, tho I use it more at home and other places, less during work.
I dont have a data plan because there is only EDGE/GPRS available on it, no 3G *yet*.
So when I do want to check on something, I simply turn it on for a minute or two, check on my mails or anything else etc and be done. Otherwise, what was happening was, I'd get connected even tho when I did not wanted it to connect. It was costing me for nothing. I can do other syncs etc at home or 100 other places that have wifi.
I did not get Windows 6.1 phone or Blackberry is because Android > them both. I assume you know that already. + Awesome screen is awesome.
As I said very clearly earlier and I shall repeat it for you, this may be useful for people who have same profile of usage patterns as myself.
Please tell me that 19 hours isn't the best you got.
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If u turn airplane mode u gonna get even more battery
kolyan said:
If u turn airplane mode u gonna get even more battery
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also not going to receive texts and phone calls. but who needs either on a cell phone =P
As for disabling the internet, i just check the box in settings to not use data. under wireless settings or something. I don't pay for data because no 3g in my area also.
Why not just put the Power Control widget on your home screen somewhere? The button between GPS and Brightness toggles whether you allow apps to sync on the 'Net or not.
IOW if you turn that toggle off you won't get email unless you launch your email reader, you won't get anything from the 'Net unless you initiate it.
Me? I just installed Onyx from Team Whiskey and I can go 3 days without worrying about my battery life if I'm just doing limited usage of the phone.
darkknight49 said:
Please tell me that 19 hours isn't the best you got.
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Looking at his screenshot, it appears as though he's gone for 19 hours and still has around 50% battery left.
Ok im running axura 2.2 froyo rom and i routinely get 18-22 hours with everything turned on with the exception of gps.
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Col.Kernel said:
Why not just put the Power Control widget on your home screen somewhere? The button between GPS and Brightness toggles whether you allow apps to sync on the 'Net or not.
IOW if you turn that toggle off you won't get email unless you launch your email reader, you won't get anything from the 'Net unless you initiate it.
Me? I just installed Onyx from Team Whiskey and I can go 3 days without worrying about my battery life if I'm just doing limited usage of the phone.
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I tried the power Control widget before, I kept getting the edge icon (E with up and down green/red arrows)
And offcourse, I do not doubt that custom roms would be the best solution
zephiK said:
You can do this by just holding power then pressing Data Network..
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I think this is a 2.2+ feature.
Shrivel said:
Looking at his screenshot, it appears as though he's gone for 19 hours and still has around 50% battery left.
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Ah yes, duh, look at the battery indicator.
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Solution to battery life issues (works 100%, guaranteed)

I love this phone and have posted this on several forums already. I want everyone to enjoy it as much as I do.
I switched from an IPhone 4 to the Atrix and I am really impressed by the device. HOWEVER, I was very close to return the phone due to poor battery life (in comparison the IPhone 4). The max I got out of the device was 14-16 hrs and the strange thing was that it did not make ANY difference whether I hardly used the phone at all or played around most of the time. Over the weekend I checked and after unplugging the phone from the charger and leaving it on the desk the battery was down to 70%.
By the end of the day on my IPhone I used to have about 30% battery left with all radios (3g, bluetooth, wifi, GPS) on and moderate use. With similar use and GPS off the Atrix hardly made it through the day. I read several suggestions and wanted to share how I increased battery life by almost 100%!! Like mentioned earlier I was puzzled that even in idle status there was a 10-15% drain. The only logic explanation was that there are services that continue in the background and drain the battery.
1. I think the absolute biggest battery drain is to enable wifi triangulation for location services. The fact that the pop-up window states "...Collection will occur even when no applications are running." should have made my suspicious. I have noticed that enabling the GPS does not have any significant effect on battery life as long as you do not have any applications open that use that radio (like maps). Obviously I disable the wifi option in location services.
2. Root your phone and download Titanium Backup PRO. Disable all Motoblur services. I do not use any Motoblur widget/services (no facebook, twitter and so on) and am happy with the native gmail client. I literally froze allmost all of the motoblur services as well as other services that may use data services in the background (news, weather services).
Following link gives a good overviw which services can be disabled without any problems:
Death-Force • Thema anzeigen - [TIP][Tutorial] Freeze Motoblur for more Performance and RAM
3. I haven't really found it helpful to use setcpu. Whats the point of having a ferrari and driving it at 30 mph?
Since making those changes I have seen a significant increase in battery life. Using the gmail client, bluetooth+GPS+wifi+3g on, screen set to auto-brightness and mdoerate use throughout the day I make it easily throughout the day with the battery indicator showing in general 30-40%. I think step 1 made the biggest difference. Again, this phone is just amazing and I do not miss my IPhone at all!
No way!?!?
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We've landed on the Moon!!!!
bimbocoles said:
3. I haven't really found it helpful to use setcpu. Whats the point of having a ferrari and driving it at 30 mph?
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Because you don't want your Ferrari to use up gas while you're not driving it?
With SetCPU, you can set a profile for it to throttle down several hundred mhz whenever the display turns off. I find that even background services like Pandora can run perfectly fine even when that dualcore "ferrari" of a machine has the display off at half the ghz.
Using setCPU alone, I feel like me battery life doubled. I recently froze motoblur in its tracks and only provided minimal increase compared to just underclocking it.
acPIZZA said:
No way!?!?
We've landed on the Moon!!!!
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lol, thats the best thing i have seen all day!!
hondaguy said:
lol, thats the best thing i have seen all day!!
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my trolling = quotes and screen shots of Dumb and Dumber.
its amazing how experiences vary from user to user. i had installed setcpu the 2nd day that i had the atrix and didnt really notice a big improvement (with it properly set up to save battery). i froze the blur settings and the weather widgets and can easily get through a heavy days usage. i find the atrix is at least as good, if not better when it comes to battery life.
i leave the wifi and cellular location option on and my battery life is great. i dont have widgets or apps running in the background that need my location and i even say no when google asks for permission to use my location for better search results. disabling this feature would make a big difference for people that use location aware apps often but i find it takes far too long to get a good gps lock when using maps if this feature is off.
as long as you are happy with your battery life, thats all that matters
Never used setCpu on my phone. battery lasts for awhileeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
setcpu is not necessary the cpu automatically throttles down when not in use, the phone doesnt run at 1ghz all time...
ive noticed with the atrix you need to turn off gps when you are not using it or it will still be on even when no apps are using it. my captivate used to turn off gps when i exited an app that was using it. im not sure if this is the case with wifi too.
After playing a long time with phone I found synchronized apps like talk, gmail, take up most of the battery.
hondaguy said:
lol, thats the best thing i have seen all day!!
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yeh that was hilarious... well played sir..
neotekz said:
setcpu is not necessary the cpu automatically throttles down when not in use, the phone doesnt run at 1ghz all time...
ive noticed with the atrix you need to turn off gps when you are not using it or it will still be on even when no apps are using it. my captivate used to turn off gps when i exited an app that was using it. im not sure if this is the case with wifi too.
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my gps turns off when i'm not using an app that needs it
acPIZZA said:
No way!?!?
We've landed on the Moon!!!!
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flawless first response
neotekz said:
setcpu is not necessary the cpu automatically throttles down when not in use, the phone doesnt run at 1ghz all time...
ive noticed with the atrix you need to turn off gps when you are not using it or it will still be on even when no apps are using it. my captivate used to turn off gps when i exited an app that was using it. im not sure if this is the case with wifi too.
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Can anyone confirm this? I would really prefer not to use setcpu unless I have to

l2_hsic wakeups - finally getting rid of it

i posted this in the Note section since it had a big thread going about this wakeup annoyance called l2_hsic, but as i am using a S2 i should post this here as well (you may remove my posts there if you think 1 is enough, i have no permission to do that yet), its a wall of text so im just gonna quote it:
i too had alot of battery drain without actaully using the phone much, was reaching aorund 2 weeks on stock 4.0.3 but the performance wasnt all that, so i installed Supernexus & DorimanX (extreme_battery), great performance but the battery wasnt really what i expected, barely a week with low usage, tried lots of things while i searched a ton of topics about l2_hsic, using gsm-only with FD disabled, turned off play store notifications in the store itself and market updates in TB, WiFi is only on when needed, data usage is disabled, so is gps since i dont use it, baseband/ril is matching, and disabled stuff in TB/gemini/LBE which i dont use, battery got a tiny bit better but far from the 2 weeks i was reaching with stock (had alot of stuff/bloatware frozen though), i was even thinking about flashing stock again but that was gonna be the last option, performance on custom roms was far better
so it got me thinking, saw alot of l2_hsic wakeups with no appearant reason to why or what was triggering those while i had just under 1%/h drain with all that stuff off, then i remembered the last time i opened the play store before flashing Supernexus & dorimanx it didnt work, probably froze too much in TB but didnt want to get to the bottom of it since i was gonna flash a new rom & kernel anyway
so a couple days back i decided to freeze google play store/services and market feedback agent in TB and block them as wel in gemini (had a hunch they could be the culprit triggering all these wakeups since some autorun lines automatically re-enabled themself after turning them off in gemini, one even was called WAKE_UP lol), denied all access in LBE and then used the phone as i normally would (occasional WiFi, couple calls a day and thats it)
rebooted the phone a couple times the last couple days to test if it wasnt a 1-time-wonder but things stuck and im glad to say im now at 0.2%/h of battery drain in deep sleep, up to a max of 0.5%/h when in use, down from around 1%/h in deep sleep, so it will probably last a bit longer than the stock rom/kernel would have before, great success!
before i froze the store/services/agent i had around 1500 wake counts from l2_hsic on a couple of hours while the phone was in deep sleep, now im at a couple wake counts on almost a day while actually using the phone like i usually do
now, in case i need to go in the store i just have to enable the stuff again in TB/gemini/LBE, little effort imo for alot more battery life
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in case youre wondering if my post was full of of crap when i said disabling the store doubled my battery life:
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notice the l2_hsic wakecounts are now 16 on a week, where i had a couple thousand during a few hours of deep sleep before i disabled the store/services/agent, this is the stock battery with Supernexus + DorimanX (extreme_battery) on 2G, wi-fi wasnt on this week, and i only make like a couple short calls a day, same as ive always done, yet the store woke my phone up so much i barely reached a week with a full battery before disabling it
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TLDR: in a nutshell, after trying all possible solutions to get rid of the thousands of l2_hsic wakeups (in deep sleep that was), it was actually the google play store/services(/agent) that caused it, disabled it, and i have more than doubled my battery life
obviously most people use their phone alot more than me, i make a couple calls a day, rarely turn on wifi and thats it, someone using the store on a daily basis is probably not gonna disable it and reenable it over and over, just wanted to point out how much the store actually drains your phone without wifi/data in deep sleep on a 2G network
Molock said:
i posted this in the Note section since it had a big thread going about this wakeup annoyance called l2_hsic, but as i am using a S2 i should post this here as well (you may remove my posts there if you think 1 is enough, i have no permission to do that yet), its a wall of text so im just gonna quote it:
TLDR: in a nutshell, after trying all possible solutions to get rid of the thousands of l2_hsic wakeups (in deep sleep that was), it was actually the google play store/services(/agent) that caused it, disabled it, and i have more than doubled my battery life
obviously most people use their phone alot more than me, i make a couple calls a day, rarely turn on wifi and thats it, someone using the store on a daily basis is probably not gonna disable it and reenable it over and over, just wanted to point out how much the store actually drains your phone without wifi/data in deep sleep on a 2G network
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It's a pity that gmail/youtube wouldn't work at all after disabling google play services, google play store and market feedback agent.
The data/wifi signal that would usually turn blue stays grayed out. I'll be trying enabling just play services
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It's a pity that gmail/youtube wouldn't work at all after disabling google play services, google play store and market feedback agent.
The data/wifi signal that would usually turn blue stays grayed out. I'll be trying enabling just play services
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Interesting, it would be good to see this bug fixed but Google apps remain connected, especially Gmail
and after a couple months the l2_hsic evil is back for no appearant reason, i hit up TB one day with half a battery and it couldnt find the pro key again, so i closed it and thought i'd ignore it, next day i turn the phone on again and my battey is near empty, wtf? enabled google play stuff again, updated my apps including TB, pro key problems solved, disabled the google play stuff again, no luck, l2_hsic is back in full force, disabled all the google apps, no luck again either, but i noticed umts_ipc0 was in there too with just under the amount of l_hsic wakeups, which has something to do with the usb, so i started looking further and it seems a fix for the l2_hsic wakeup bug has already been found, even though its on another device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41338478
only problem now is to have the kernel modders take a look in their kernel and see if that bug is present and if so, if they can fix it?
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and after a couple months the l2_hsic evil is back for no appearant reason, i hit up TB one day with half a battery and it couldnt find the pro key again, so i closed it and thought i'd ignore it, next day i turn the phone on again and my battey is near empty, wtf? enabled google play stuff again, updated my apps including TB, pro key problems solved, disabled the google play stuff again, no luck, l2_hsic is back in full force, disabled all the google apps, no luck again either, but i noticed umts_ipc0 was in there too with just under the amount of l_hsic wakeups, which has something to do with the usb, so i started looking further and it seems a fix for the l2_hsic wakeup bug has already been found, even though its on another device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41338478
only problem now is to have the kernel modders take a look in their kernel and see if that bug is present and if so, if they can fix it?
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Use non stock battery? Salutes for 7 days for 35% remaining even standby on 2G..:what:
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda app-developers app
using stock battery, the better ones havent been available in my country for as long as i can remember, would have bought one if they were
shame i cant get that battery life back from my OP, it was 35% used instead of remaining after 7 days with the l2_hsic going mental again now im lucky to even hit 7 days with a full battery

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