sorry if this has been asked b4 .
i've had my hd2 for a month now and was just wondering if cooking or updating the rom is worth it .? my O.S is 5.2.21869 rom is 1.48.405.2(71294)wwe man 2.5.19211619.
what r the benifits of doin it ?
First off mate, cooking is what you do to make a custom ROM. As you said, you'd be updating it, but not cooking it.
Anyway, there are ROMs available now that have lots of fixes in that weren't included in 1.48 (the dreaded SMS issues and lock-screen not always locking, plus others.) Also, there are some ROMs available that also include Sense upgrades. For example, I've got the document tab and an eReader tab on mine. I don't use the document tab much (I've got a London underground pdf that I open with it, and that's all at the moment), but the eReader tab actually got me into eBooks.
Also, a lot of custom ROMs don't include some of the software that is on a stock ROM. For example, I use Dutty's Holy Grail v0.8, and it doesn't come with quite a few things (there's a list of stuff that's not included in the thread), and I ended up with about 70MB more device memory than with a stock ROM. As well as that, this particular ROM is simply faster and better than a stock ROM.
It's worth having a read through the ROM forum threads and seeing what's out there. You're bound to find something that you decide you want, and then you've just got the hassle of backing up contacts/texts/emails/photos/videos etc. (not that it's really a hassle when you use decent software to do it for you), and you've got to consider the fact that you're breaking your warranty too (but this can be undone, in case you ever need to send the phone off for repair/replacement).
Head on over to the ROM thread and read up on there. I bet you end up flashing a custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
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First off mate, cooking is what you do to make a custom ROM. As you said, you'd be updating it, but not cooking it.
Anyway, there are ROMs available now that have lots of fixes in that weren't included in 1.48 (the dreaded SMS issues and lock-screen not always locking, plus others.) Also, there are some ROMs available that also include Sense upgrades. For example, I've got the document tab and an eReader tab on mine. I don't use the document tab much (I've got a London underground pdf that I open with it, and that's all at the moment), but the eReader tab actually got me into eBooks.
Also, a lot of custom ROMs don't include some of the software that is on a stock ROM. For example, I use Dutty's Holy Grail v0.8, and it doesn't come with quite a few things (there's a list of stuff that's not included in the thread), and I ended up with about 70MB more device memory than with a stock ROM. As well as that, this particular ROM is simply faster and better than a stock ROM.
It's worth having a read through the ROM forum threads and seeing what's out there. You're bound to find something that you decide you want, and then you've just got the hassle of backing up contacts/texts/emails/photos/videos etc. (not that it's really a hassle when you use decent software to do it for you), and you've got to consider the fact that you're breaking your warranty too (but this can be undone, in case you ever need to send the phone off for repair/replacement).
Head on over to the ROM thread and read up on there. I bet you end up flashing a custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
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nice post mate but whether cooked roms are better or not is subjective...
faster... yes! in alot if not all cases... but better?
i for one havent found a custom rom to my liking just yet.... still using stock
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First off mate, cooking is what you do to make a custom ROM. As you said, you'd be updating it, but not cooking it.
Anyway, there are ROMs available now that have lots of fixes in that weren't included in 1.48 (the dreaded SMS issues and lock-screen not always locking, plus others.) Also, there are some ROMs available that also include Sense upgrades. For example, I've got the document tab and an eReader tab on mine. I don't use the document tab much (I've got a London underground pdf that I open with it, and that's all at the moment), but the eReader tab actually got me into eBooks.
Also, a lot of custom ROMs don't include some of the software that is on a stock ROM. For example, I use Dutty's Holy Grail v0.8, and it doesn't come with quite a few things (there's a list of stuff that's not included in the thread), and I ended up with about 70MB more device memory than with a stock ROM. As well as that, this particular ROM is simply faster and better than a stock ROM.
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It's worth having a read through the ROM forum threads and seeing what's out there. You're bound to find something that you decide you want, and then you've just got the hassle of backing up contacts/texts/emails/photos/videos etc. (not that it's really a hassle when you use decent software to do it for you), and you've got to consider the fact that you're breaking your warranty too (but this can be undone, in case you ever need to send the phone off for repair/replacement).
Head on over to the ROM thread and read up on there. I bet you end up flashing a custom ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534
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thanks mate. I haven't got a clue with these windows phones . really new to them. thanks for ur help.
iainbp said:
thanks mate. I haven't got a clue with these windows phones . really new to them. thanks for ur help.
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That's alright mate. If you're new and haven't got a clue what you're doing, just ask away. Just make sure you've searched first as some people get a bit "YOU MUST SEARCH FIRST"-like with you Just make sure to say you've searched and couldn't find anything.
I started here about a year and a half ago and didn't know a ting about WM, but lots about Windows. This has been a great site for me.
Anyway, have fun
Audio, check the one in my Sig - very sleek and stock
EddyOS said:
Audio, check the one in my Sig - very sleek and stock
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looks good but still not for me i am afraid...
it has to be exactly right for me to even think about flashing... closest ive found that comes close to my taste is Miri's 6.5.
Dont worry about me im just extremely picky with this device. For me its fast enough as it is and has enough storage for my needs with stock. Strange because in the past i was flashing my devices nearly every other week. I guess ive just grown out of flash fever
I think I just want something that will expand the memory think I need to learn bit more bout it , till I do it .
theres no rush, the hd2 has plenty of ram even without the extra unlocked. you won't notice much of a difference.
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Pick your favorite. If other, please post it.
I've just recently gotten into ROMs (about a month now) and the first one I loaded was Asergs. I have not tried any of the others but I do plan to at some point.
wow you put mine onto the list...
but i hope nobody will vote..
that was discussed many, many, many times before and you cannot know!
EVERY rom fits to one person!
if you like clean ones, or black ones, or biggy, or, or, or!!!
every rom ahs pro and cons!
test them for your own and don´t ask other to decide for you!!
That's exactly why I put the POLL up though. It's so common for everyone to just start asking whats the best ROM. And while I agree with you that they are all somewhat different and one may fit someone better than the next, alot of people would like to see what is making most people happy. Chances are if X amount of people are using one ROM and swear by it that they will like it as well. And maybe not, but it gives people a baseline of what the crowd is pleased with.
You may want to break up a little further. Each rom builder has many different taste of roms, like full, lite and micro etc. I used Touch IT 2.0 full, Open Touch V3 lite and now I'm on Open Touch V4 lite black, those are all great roms, and I'm sure just within open touch people would have a preference for different flavors.
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That's exactly why I put the POLL up though. It's so common for everyone to just start asking whats the best ROM. And while I agree with you that they are all somewhat different and one may fit someone better than the next, alot of people would like to see what is making most people happy. Chances are if X amount of people are using one ROM and swear by it that they will like it as well. And maybe not, but it gives people a baseline of what the crowd is pleased with.
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ok go on with the masses.....!!!
only because most people like a rom it must not be good... hehe.
but if you look deeper into the world of Herlad/wing you will see the difference
good luck
I noticed that most people have ONLY tried OpenTouch and TouchIT ROMs. OpenTouch is leading the favorite by quite a bit.
I guess it's time for Just2Stuffed...
ivanmmj said:
I noticed that most people have ONLY tried OpenTouch and TouchIT ROMs. OpenTouch is leading the favorite by quite a bit.
I guess it's time for Just2Stuffed...
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Or Just2Linux!!
h4xz0r j00r r0m!
ROM or not to ROM
For me, and many users, the interest in ROM change was to increase available RAM via Pagepool modification. Now that can be accomplished without changing factory ROM, should this not be a choice? It seems the safest route.
pauldeleeuw said:
For me, and many users, the interest in ROM change was to increase available RAM via Pagepool modification. Now that can be accomplished without changing factory ROM, should this not be a choice? It seems the safest route.
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Even with a great pagepool, it takes quite a few tweaks to get the RAM in a stock ROM to the level that a custom ROM would get. Even then, there are so many files in the windows folder that it causes a considerable slow down to the machine. This SHOULD be a choice, but I don't think it's the best. Depending on your device, though, it MIGHT be the safest route. (Actually, depending on your SPL.)
How much free RAM do you get on the stock ROM?
Anyone care to explain?
Flashing a different radio can give you better battery life, wifi, signal, voice call quality and maybe some other, I think...
How would I know which one is best for me?
Make sure you know everything about flashing first then just try suitable ones for your rom. There is some feedback in the various radio's threads but you'll have to work the search to find anything useful to you.
As new radio's are available i just try them. If they're no good i go back to the last one i had.
Remember to check which radio's are suitable for which rom's, there's only a few here for an HD2 so it's not to difficult. I used to have a Kaiser and there were loads available depending on what rom sys you had.
Are you on a custom rom or HTC?
I had a hard reset an hour ago so I'm HTC atm I'm looking to customize my phone the best. Also, where can I find Manila updates?
MarsHD2 said:
I had a hard reset an hour ago so I'm HTC atm I'm looking to customize my phone the best. Also, where can I find Manila updates?
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You cant update manila. You can either flash a newer ROM with a newer Manila Version (latest is 2015 i think as p.ex. used in Duttys HG 3.8) or you install some elements of the newer ManilaBuilds like the eReader, DokumentTab etc. (available as cabs here on the forum)
Greets
Its about the user experience... Picking an interface that suits you and what you use the phone for... Taking a good phone and making it fit you perfectly...
That's the quest of rom chefs and end users and most will flash a dozen roms to find the one that suits them...
I'm sure almost everyone here will agree it's well worth flashing custom rom's, they're far better than the stock HTC roms, just takes a bit of getting into to get the most out of it. A good backup and you can always go back to a stock rom.
No pressure....
Flaaash...flaaash...flaaash!
Tim thanks you've been a great help although I want the max manila home theme. Looks smooth, I want my phone to look good as well as comfortable and speedy
Also, most ROM chefs will say which Radios work best for that ROM, and then you just need t be sure it's working well for you signa-wise in your area.
I had a non reccommended radio for Energy ROM, and I found Manilla would freeze, the phone would hang and reception would drop. One radio flash later, all this went away (and it only takes a minute and you don't lose any settings, so no biggie)
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Tim thanks you've been a great help although I want the max manila home theme. Looks smooth, I want my phone to look good as well as comfortable and speedy
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A few of the more prevalent chefs cook various versions for example the energy rom i'm using at the mo comes as a Co0kie version, a max sense version and a standard manila version. Not sure there's any max ultimate roms being cooked as maxcy now has a new interface he's working on, the said "maxsense" and hasn't updated max ultimate for a long time. Co0kies home tab is far better and far more stable, max sense is in it's early stages, probably has more potential but i understand it's got a few instabilities as it is.
Take a look at the link in my signature at the energy rom version. Not that i'm biased though i have, and will continue to try all sorts of roms. When you flash it's worth having a look at the last few pages of the rom's thread and then watch it again after you thread. Generally any probs you have will come up and any probs that don't normally mean it's something you've done different.
And also worth remebering the chefs do this for themselves and share it with us, it's fortunate they'll listen to some of our requests but really we have no right to ask for anything. We help report and sort any faults and generally the chefs will incorporate popular preferences like the energy rom doing all the variants of his rom.
I have always thought of this stuff as a bit like, why do you "chip" a car... most makers make what they think is the best within their limits for their products... they want ease and minimum hassle or comebacks... but some very bright sparks are bound to come along and make it better.. I know when I brought a diesel car, after having nice sports cars before, everyone thought I was mad.. but by chipping it, my BHP jumped 50%, my Torque 35% and my MPG went up to around 60mpg on a good run... so the benefits are there if you are willing to take the chance and change a few things..
I am using Laurentius26 GoldEdition V2.1. I have played around with previous versions from the same cook but it all comes down to finding one that works well with your apps and your needs..
I have previously used many SPB products but found that the basic shell wrecks havoc from time to time.. it can work but not in the way that I want.. so I just dropped it.. all the other stuff works but it really is trial and error..
I am by no means an expert, my constant questions on here shows that, but I do appreciate what I have learnt from here and realised almost immediately that a cooked rom was better than a standard one but you need to find one that suits you..
I had horrible internet connection problems with my stock 1.66 rom and radio combination.
Flashing to radio 2.10.50.28_2, solved those problems.
So that is why.
reijkelhof said:
I had horrible internet connection problems with my stock 1.66 rom and radio combination.
Flashing to radio 2.10.50.28_2, solved those problems.
So that is why.
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i have the same problems, also my battery leaks out in less than a day...
does that radio enable the 576 ram? and is this compatible with "european" phones?
thx for ur answer!
mdbq said:
i have the same problems, also my battery leaks out in less than a day...
does that radio enable the 576 ram? and is this compatible with "european" phones?
thx for ur answer!
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See here for my problems and me talking about the solution (for me)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6808114&postcount=449
I am from Europe yes.
I do not believe that flashing a radio rom enables the 576 ram.
I am still showing 448 MB ram.
reijkelhof said:
See here for my problems and me talking about the solution (for me)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6808114&postcount=449
I am from Europe yes.
I do not believe that flashing a radio rom enables the 576 ram.
I am still showing 448 MB ram.
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thanks!
i'll install it right now!
hi Everyone,
I am getting a hd2 this week from my friend, i alos have T-mobile service.
i was wondering do i need a app. in order to tethering via usb to my desk top?
should i keep the stock rom or should i change it? and is it easy or hard to do?
if everyone says change it, then whats the best rom? and can you included instructions on how to change the rom. i read kumar 2.2 is the best? not sure any info will be helpful and thank you in advance for any help you can give me.
You wont need a seperate app to tether........
For rom info see here.........and for how to info, see here...... .....
All the info you need is readily available via the search function...
Happy reading.........
thanks for the feed back. i did do allot reading last night. i found allot of use full information. Can you recommended a good rom? t-mobile usa
bigbudha said:
thanks for the feed back. i did do allot reading last night. i found allot of use full information. Can you recommended a good rom? t-mobile usa
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No real correct answer, depends what you mean by good. Some prefer close to stock ROMS but with newer updates, messaging clients, tweaks, that kind of thing.
Others prefer eye candy, skinned diallers, graphics, icons etc.
Once you have HSPL on your HD2, flashing ROMS is fairly basic so the ideal is you test the ROMS out for your self. You'll find that you can be flashing a new ROM everyweek and even when you find one you like, newer updates are released all the time so it will never stop
Many of the ROMs posted here include the wifi hotspot functionality, so you may be able to 'kill' two birds with one stone (I do not condone killing birds).
Personally, I much prefer a custom ROM over the stock ROM. The other day, I flashed the official T-Mobile 2.13 ROM, just to try it out and it was a horrendous experience. I quickly flashed a new custom ROM.
I have been a user of Windows for long lomg time and have loved it when I had the liberty to flash clean cooked ROMS onto my device. Rarely, I stuck to Stock ROM's or over bloated ones no matter how stable!
Will we ever see the light of day when the streak will get to see some cooked ROM's which are not bloated with added apps?
I got my Streak bout a fortnight ago - so far tested and mostly fixed on downloaded apps - but really pissed as I still have crap on my streak which I do not use - why do we need to live with this?
Am now looking to dump the 2.1 - but sceptical as I nee many bricks flying around for units purchased online direct from Dell....
I really hope to see some cook - take the initiative and start cooking some clean workable ROM's
I am sure it will not be long before you have your wish, Paul over at Modaco is the main Cook at the moment nip over he has a custom ROM
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I have been a user of Windows for long lomg time and have loved it when I had the liberty to flash clean cooked ROMS onto my device. Rarely, I stuck to Stock ROM's or over bloated ones no matter how stable!
Will we ever see the light of day when the streak will get to see some cooked ROM's which are not bloated with added apps?
I got my Streak bout a fortnight ago - so far tested and mostly fixed on downloaded apps - but really pissed as I still have crap on my streak which I do not use - why do we need to live with this?
Am now looking to dump the 2.1 - but sceptical as I nee many bricks flying around for units purchased online direct from Dell....
I really hope to see some cook - take the initiative and start cooking some clean workable ROM's
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I have no idea what you're talking about. What 'bloated' ROMs?
Why don't you just open the update.zip, remove all the crap you don't need, resign it, done. Or, just uninstall the apps you don't want? It's not exactly hard to do.
You also sound incredibly ungrateful, these devs put A LOT of hard work into these ROMs and you just complain about a few apps they've included? If you don't like it, why don't YOU start making ROMs. This thread is essentially just pure laziness on your part.
Wow. "why do we need to live with this?" It's not essential to life, It's a ROM. grow up.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. What 'bloated' ROMs?
Why don't you just open the update.zip, remove all the crap you don't need, resign it, done. Or, just uninstall the apps you don't want? It's not exactly hard to do.
You also sound incredibly ungrateful, these devs put A LOT of hard work into these ROMs and you just complain about a few apps they've included? If you don't like it, why don't YOU start making ROMs. This thread is essentially just pure laziness on your part.
Wow. "why do we need to live with this?" It's not essential to life, It's a ROM. grow up.
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Chill out Meltus.
Am not sitting here to start another debate on disrespecting Chef's - never had that intention anyway if you had read my post with a clear mind! - I have been a user of custom cooked ROM's since the days of XDA IIs and never had a reply of such.
My title read - 'Moved from windows' - which implied that I am new to Android and still experimenting - infact I am still on my stock ROM on my dell online purchased unit and was only lookign for a way to uninstall Touchdown etc to save on space in memory.
Thanks for the tip on changing update.zip - now I have a solution which I can look into!
I said we dont need to live with this and it was not pointed to any Chef - it was pointed to Dell - who have installed all crap on the unit (which I am trying to remove) and being in a forum - you will have to appreciate - we all have the right to ask questions - some may be good and some naive!
So mine was naive - and thanks for your answers.
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I said we dont need to live with this and it was not pointed to any Chef - it was pointed to Dell - who have installed all crap on the unit (which I am trying to remove)
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Ah, I apologise, I thought you were referring to ROM developers, sorry
Anyway, if you want to open the zip, remove stuff, and then sign it again, you'll need the signing tool - http://androidforums.com/developer-101/8665-how-signing-roms.html
Sorry again, i guess i just completely mis-read your post ><
Cool! am already opening up and playing around! if I have a brick in my hands - I'll jump out of the 3rd floor window and you'll have to carry me to the hospital
ps: I weigh 120Kgs!!!!!
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Cool! am already opening up and playing around! if I have a brick in my hands - I'll jump out of the 3rd floor window and you'll have to carry me to the hospital
ps: I weigh 120Kgs!!!!!
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Haha, i think it's almost impossible to brick the streak at the moment, you can always just fastboot flash the stock recovery image then flash the stock update.pkg from Dell!
I'm a weak f***er so that's out of the question
I too have come from WM and have been using it since it came out in '98. One thing I miss is the ability to view and tweak the registry. Like on the HD2 just change
'Go to HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P2\ EncodeFormat' to '2147483647' and you have loads of additional video recording formats!
You can also remove ROM apps by using Root Explorer (need rooted phone obviously) and removing the offending /apk files from /system/apps and then clearing the Dalvik-cache and rebooting.
I just flashed the 2.1 ROM on my AT&T/US Streak and got rid of Touchdown and Amazon MP3. No more icons I don't use, nor widgets to scroll through.
here's a good guide to it:
http://www.market4android.com/how-to-remove-stock-android-apps.php
Good luck.
Be careful about removing ROM apps, ive done this a few times and then i got endless process error....eeeek :S
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Be careful about removing ROM apps, ive done this a few times and then i got endless process error....eeeek :S
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Good to know. I was wondering if it was so easy, why would everyone care about what apps are installed if you can just zap em if you don't want them. Well thankfully I developed no ill effects from my deletions, and I removed those I really didn't want.
I'm not enough of a linux/Android gear head to know better. I'm a pretty good Windows gear head, but never knew Linux well which is too bad with all the cool Androids coming along in the handheld space. Oh well, learning new tricks is good too i suppose...
thanks
I got my wife a HD2 from tmo. She loves the hardware, of course, but the phone is stock and locks up way, way too often.
I was wondering if the custom ROMs suffer from this too or if they have alleviated this issue. I can flash her device easy, but don't want to play support desk for her.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I think this question relates specifically to ROM development vs general dev questions, but Mods please free to move or lock if you have to.
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I got my wife a HD2 from tmo. She loves the hardware, of course, but the phone is stock and locks up way, way too often.
I was wondering if the custom ROMs suffer from this too or if they have alleviated this issue. I can flash her device easy, but don't want to play support desk for her.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I think this question relates specifically to ROM development vs general dev questions, but Mods please free to move or lock if you have to.
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Custom ROM's are generally very stable compared to the Stock, however, when I used my stock, it was stable as hell, it's just on a case to case basis. But sounds like on your situation, flashing a Custom ROM would help.
on my stock HD2 i found that the more txts i had the more it would lock up, and every time i would clear them the phone would run perfect, but i hate to clear my txts so i use the energy rom by NRG. cant be happier.
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on my stock HD2 i found that the more txts i had the more it would lock up, and every time i would clear them the phone would run perfect, but i hate to clear my txts so i use the energy rom by NRG. cant be happier.
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Same here, mine was pretty stable with the exception of the messaging problem. But man are the custom's smooth and fast! My wife's on the other hand has had numerous lockups...
Sounds like you know your way around flashing but just make sure to READ, READ, READ so you don't end up giving your wife back a paperweight.
The folks around the community have made it extremely easy to do but it's also just as easy to brick it. With the advent of HSPL3, the task29 exe file, I can go from Rom to Rom in about half an hour (after setting everything up on the new one).
As far as which ROM is best (if you find yourself asking that question); that's not a question that's really "allowed" here and usually gets a thread locked. I found that just reading the first few posts of each thread to get the jist of what they offer and then it all comes down to just flashing it, playing around with it and see if you like it.
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have you tried the updated TMobile US ROM? 2.13...? It is pretty stable. I used it for a couple months. Recently though flashed a custom ROM (Elegancia GTX) for fun, and it is actually faster, and seems even more stable.
The BEST way to make your HD2 stable...completely...is to disable HTC Sense and just use Windows Default (Titanium) or the older traditional WM Today Screen. Using HTC sense caused a need to reset my HD2 too often. Usually once a day or every two days at the longest between resets. With HTC sense disabled I might turn the phone off and on one or two times per week...and that is by choice usually.