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HTC charging me $75 for the hairline power button crack

Sent to the article author here at XDA this morning along with a few other key addresses.
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Just wanted to follow up with you. HTC has quoted me $75 to repair a missing camera lens cover due to my phone also having the hairline crack you discuss here. Even though they acknowledge the fact that the hairline crack doesn't affect the camera lens in any way shape or form and also acknowledging that the missing lens (it fell out) is also an obvious warranty issue they are demanding I pay their fee. Also conveniently right after they quote you expedited shipping prices (in my case 15 for overnight since I've been fighting them for 2 weeks on this already) and charge your credit card they decide to finally inform you that it'll take about two weeks to do actually do the 10 minute repair for you.
I've attached a picture the RMA folks at HTC sent me of my "negligent damage." Somehow phones with screens that fall off and USB power ports that fall out of the phone are obvious manufacturers defects but actually pushing the power button (OMG HOW DARE I DO THIS) is abuse and will not be tolerated by the nice folks at HTC.
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Dear Mr. Sheehan,
Please see the pictures below that you have requested from your phone. If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 888-617-1113 between 8am and 8pm EST Monday through Friday.
Sincerely,
HTC Customer Care
3. Ben Sheehan
SN: HT05******* (Evo) – Crack case
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Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for using HTC repair services! Here is a copy of your invoice
for reference.
RMA #: 121****
Accepted Repair Actions: Average Repair
Total Charged: $90.00
Date of Charge: 8/24/2010
There is a 90-day warranty on all repairs made. The 90-day warranty applies
only to repeat return cases with the same functional failure symptom and
same parts for replacement.
Please remember that all processed repair charges are non-refundable. The
charge will appear on your credit card statement as Telamon CPE.
Thank you for using HTC! We appreciate your business!
Sincerely,
HTC Customer Care Department
1-888-356-2375
M-F 8AM - 8PM EST
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Wow, that is ****.
Mine is cracked in precisely the same place.

It is B.S. but for some reason both Sprint and HTC refuse to acknowledge the crack as a defect. I think it is ridiculous and deserves a recall. But I don't understand the problem completely. Are they forcing you to pay $90 in order to get your phone back? Or are they just saying that it would cost $90 if you asked them to repair the hairline crack?

I never read the other thread. Does it crack in the middle? Looking at how it is attached (two tiny, flimsy tabs) when I had mine apart...I would expect the tabs to break. It's a crap piece all things considered.

Sent the phone in for a completely unrelated issue. They are saying the crack is evidence that I've abused my phone. I can either pay 75 for them to fix it or 40 for them just to send it back. The additional is shipping.
This company literally has by far the most useless and brain dead phone reps I've ever encountered.

Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.

That is absolutely awful. The cracked power button is a well-known defect of this phone. And the fact that they are nitpicking you is almost a deal-breaker. I'm mad for you.
Twice when I owned a Blackberry I sent my phone in for minor issues. The way it worked is that Sprint overnighted a new phone to me before they looked at mine. I activated the new one so that I wouldn't have to be without phone. Then I sent in the old one. RIM charges something like $75 if they find that the problem doesn't exist and you were just trying to get a shiny new phone. I was never charged the $75. And I was really pushing the policy because there was some tiny flaw in the phone which was why I was returning it.
You shouldn't have to wait this long for a replacement. And you shouldn't have to bicker with them like it's a flea market. We only have these phones for like a year before we move on, and they are wasting your time.

TheBiles said:
Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.
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Sprint had no phones and it was a wait for a refurb. Figured this would be a simple in and out repair. My bad thinking HTC has any idea what customer service is.

Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.

thebryanexperience said:
Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.
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HTC will not care if they get a call from you. That's the problem.

Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..

xavier1022 said:
Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..
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She must have been trying to get you out of the store as quickly as possible. Not a bad strategy.

get your phone back tell them to F themselves at go ***** at sprint, and wait, I'm pretty sure its not going to kill anyones phone to have a crack in it while you wait for a refurb to come in, HTC is going to send you a refurb anyway most likely.
either way with a refurb your stuck without root, the Evo's roll in for Service and repair replacements every few days.
the longer the better, more time to hope froyo gets rooted lol

Wait, is the button itself cracked, or the trim right around it (on the screen side of the top)?

Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.

File a case with the BBB.

Bielinsk said:
Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.
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I have that too. Mine has been apart a few times, so I can't really *****. I only noticed it because I was scrutinizing the button.
Still my favorite phone ever, and will probably be for the next six months.

Yet when there is a thread about another manufacturer everyone is ready to beat HTC off with both hands while they piss on the other builders. They are no better and their build quality is certainly suspect at best. Don't even get me started on the programming mess.

I've filed formal complaints with the BBB (like anyone cares) and the Florida Division of Consumer Services (might care) along with posting on every forum and facebook page I can find related to HTC as well as carpet bombing their fax numbers.
HTC I know you are reading this.
I'm just getting started.
I promise you I will cost you many many times more than the 75 bucks you've gotten from me.

Making it a point to call twice a day to check on my phone.
They told me it would be 5 to 7 days before it ships.
I'll call twice a day every day and waste as much of their time as I possibly can.
Also got another "we don't care about your problems with HTC" chain letter from Sprint today. In case anyone wondered the "[email protected]" address just takes you to more customer "service" reps though you do get a dedicated employee to ignore you. I like when they say they are "calling from the office of Dan Hesse." It makes me giggle. Chances are good they wouldn't know Dan Hesse if he walked up and punched them in the face.

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TLTR !!!!!

I read it. Sorry to hear about your EVO man.
I got my EVO through Craigslist new in box because all the Sprint stores in my area who had them in stock wouldn't sell them to people not adding a new line of service. (Which is another story in and of itself)
When I brought it in to Sprint to activate they let me add insurance and told me that I'd still be covered under warranty for a year. I would be steamed if I was in your shoes too.
Thankfully I have a HW revision 0003 and my EVO hasn't yet to display any of the known issues.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-glass-separation-issues/

Just a short while ago I worked as a CSR for AT&T. Your friend got really lucky because 99.9% of the time a broken iPhone, even with a known issue, means you're SOL. In my experience, Sprint is much more flexible.

I mean you guys have any suggestions for me at this point? I know its just a phone and all but damn. i posted this on sprint forums, androidforums.com,xda, ppcgeeks, and of course my phone calls and visits to the repair center at MACOM

You bought the $7 plan for this very reason-- a more-than-likely behaviorally caused ding. (yes I read your post, but look at this from someone else's point of view. You had/used the phone how long before you saw this?)
Pony up the deductable and get a new phone. You realize you're costing yourself way more than $100 in grief and wasted time?
Lastly, just in case this is a defect and a recall is issued, keep your documentation on your calls to CS, claim filed, and out of pocket money. At that point you should be able to recoup your deductible among other things.

illogic6 said:
Just a short while ago I worked as a CSR for AT&T. Your friend got really lucky because 99.9% of the time a broken iPhone, even with a known issue, means you're SOL. In my experience, Sprint is much more flexible.
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Sure, bro. Sure.

00_MACKIE_00 said:
Ok, this is going to be a long post, full of detailed information regarding my purchase of an Evo. I will be posting this on every forum I am a member of and there are alot that I post on.
A buddy of mine contacted me to tell me he had bought an Evo on launch day from Best Buy. He activated it on 6/6/2010 from a Best Buy in Kentucky. He was told " The Evo has push to talk". Well he later found out that it did not in fact have push to talk and he needed that feature for his Sprint business account. He was outside his 30 day "happiness" window so he had to buy a different phone. He decided to put his Evo on Ebay and sell it to try and get some of his money back for his Evo purchase. He let me know he listed it on Ebay and provided me a link to it. I ended up winning the auction on 8/15/2010. I received the phone on 8/21 and received original box, original everything. Even had a cover. Phone looked and smelled BRAND new. I quickly called Sprint to activate it and within 10 min I was sporting my new Evo. Added my insurance/repair $7 dollar fee like I do with all my phones.
All was fine until 9/5/2010, I noticed on the bottom left of the screen over the home button, the screen appears lifted and a little dust had gotten under it. Ok no big deal to me at this point. I do keep my phones in mint condition but I was just going to monitor this situation. 13 days later is when I called Sprint asking for an explanation. I called the customer service line and explained the situation with the phone. They immediately started blaming me for it. I guess maybe they thought I used a screwdriver and lifted the screen, who knows. The girl told me she was in Charlotte, NC and that she had never heard of a screen separating from the adhesive and to go to the repair center.
On 9/17/2010, I went to MACOM here in Florida. A nice gentleman greeted me at the repair window and asked how he could help me. I said well I called customer service and explained to them that the phone screen seemed to be coming up and to pay you a visit so you could investigate. 4 screws later my Evo was in several pieces and then put back together. He asked me where I got the phone so I told him. He looked up my account and said "you’re inside your 30 day window according to the calendar here and you should go home and call customer service back". I told him I had no intention of being given a brand new phone. To me , that would be dishonest and I live by being honest and I teach my kids to be honest to people regardless of the situation. He handed me his business card, said call Sprint and call me back if you have problems. Seems he was trying to push me into a brand new Evo. I lay no blame on this guy; he was trying to do the right thing. He told me he could have it replaced but it would be a refurbished phone which I am ok with.
I arrive home on 9/17 from MACOM and about 7pm I start making some phone calls. I have been upfront with Sprint about the terms of my purchase. The first lady I spoke to said she understood my issue and that she would get someone on the phone to help me after we talked 10 minutes or so. She asked if I minded being put on hold and I said absolutely not. I waited for about 7 or 8 minutes or so and another lady got on the phone from a different department. I had a really hard time understanding what her name was, who she was with, etc etc due to the heavy accent. From what I could understand, she was from advanced exchange it sounded like. She asked for my telephone #, verified my pin and all that good stuff and asks me the reason for the call. I then had to go into the WHOLE story again. 10 minutes later she asked me where I bought the phone. I said I bought it off Ebay from a SPRINT customer, not some random power seller. She then told me well there is nothing she could do and that was there anything else she could do for me. I said I guess not and told her to have a lovely weekend. She then said I could always file a claim with Assurion and pay a $100 deductible for this obvious defect.
After speaking to my wife, I felt I needed to call back. Around 8:30pm or so I called back to customer service and once again explained the situation. I asked her over and over to tell me if I had done something wrong, or this was somehow my fault. She completely denied any knowledge of a screen separation issue and proceeded to tell me she was going to talk to her supervisor about it and placed me on hold. She came back on the line in short time and asked if it would be ok if I received a call back. I said ok and told the lady to have a nice evening. About 45 minutes or so later my phone rings. I go to answer it using the slider and because my screen is acting funny due to part of it being lifted, somehow the call was dropped and she left a voicemail and her name and phone number. I immediately called back off my house phone and received her voicemail. I left a message and asked that she call me right away. I have not received another phone call.
Remembering the conversation with MACOM, I woke up on 9/18, loaded up the kids and drove on over. The same gentleman was there again. He remembered me from the night before. I told him I had called customer service and had gotten nowhere. The tune quickly changed from ordering a refurbished phone to having to call his district manager but however the district manager was off and on his motorcycle for the day and it would be evening before he could have a chance to talk to him and it would be next week before he could get back to me. He was very nice and polite and told me to have a good rest of the weekend and he would get in touch with me.
Now that I have laid out the facts, I am now going to state my opinion on this. First off, Sprint denying the screen separation is a joke within itself. Searching on Google using the search criteria "evo screen separation" shows 6,700,00 results found. How could people not know about it that work for Sprint? The repair guy at MACOM had heard about it, but nobody else? How is that even possible? My next complaint is about the way I purchased it. If I was not tempted by all the Sprint commercials about the EVO and not being able to actually find one in Florida, I would not have had to go buy one of Ebay. I bought it from a valid Sprint customer not some guy on Ebay looking to make a few bucks. Sprint still should honor my purchase and either fix my phone or give me one that works, isn't that what I pay the TEP for?. I guess anyone who is buying either a barely used or brand new phone off Ebay should just stop doing it now before you run into a situation like what I am dealing with. I am a premier customer with Sprint; I have 3 lines as well so I consider myself an important customer. Plus it helps in the years I have had service, I have never missed a payment, been late, or anything. Sprint should not allow you to buy a phone from anywhere and activate it successfully if they do not want to honor an obvious manufacturing defect. This will not cost any money for Sprint to replace my phone because I am sure it would be sent back to HTC as a defect. I am not editing this post until there is a resolution so that the public sees what I have had to deal with. Once Sprint provides a resolution, I will then have this post removed and I will once again be a happy Sprint customer.
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I've had better luck. I was once placed in this exact situation. Brought my phone into Sprint to have it repair the lifting of screen. In-house techs repaired it, no questions asked (or blaming). One hour later, they called me back and issued me a new one, as their investigation determines hardware version 0002 was a manufature defect. Perhaps it's all based on locations, reps, your attitude towards them, etc. Where I'm from everyone one's laid back, reps are always friendly and don't really have to put up with too much of people's ****, because non really gives them **** to begin with. They even accept rooted phones too, where as I read that many other users have to unroot before bringing their phone into Sprint for replacement/repair.
If you don't mind paying a deductable ($100 max), call into customer service and request a replacement.
And to the dude who was previously on AT&T with iPhone, sure buddy. SURRRREEE. If you EVER had service with them, you of all people should know that AT&T & Apple will put you through hell. I should know, that's why I dropped AT&T & the iPhone 2G.

illogic6 said:
I read it. Sorry to hear about your EVO man.
I got my EVO through Craigslist new in box because all the Sprint stores in my area who had them in stock wouldn't sell them to people not adding a new line of service. (Which is another story in and of itself)
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That is actually illegal, they have to sell it to you, I actually did the same and had to mention that it is illegal to not sell it, after mentioning that they budged and sold it to me.
Back on your situation with your EVO, I would recommend posting on consumerist as that is more their territory. They have the phone numbers for executive customer support also, they WILL fix your issue ASAP. http://consumerist.com/2007/05/sprint-sets-up-consumerist-reader-executive-customer-service-hotline.html

tbh, I feel no simpathy since you being "honest" has nothing to do with the situation. You didn't steal the phone, the phone was defective therefore it's not like you were doing anything wrong. You should of returned it and gotten a replacement. There's been hundreds if not thousands of people that have done the same with the screen lifting issue.
Also if you didn't know before, google is based on keywords, it doesn't take the phrase and search for it. About 5million of those results were for the word "evo", other million were for "screen", and so on. Out of those results, only about 20-30 were for the evo issue. I've been doing SEO for a long time, so when it comes to google I know what I'm talking about.
Also sprint doesn't care if you took it apart, or if it came apart by itself, because they will tell you in the end to return it because of the issue. They know people do it, and it's perfectly okay, since you're not "cheating" anyone. The 30 day thing is made for a reason, it's not made for you to screw them over. Also the insurance that you put on the phone is made for a reason.
Either you're not telling the whole story, or you were too ignorant to return the phone.

Btw, side note for you. Check out the app TiKL for push to talk on your EVO.
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As a Sprint retention supersvisor, let me ask you something which I would have asked you if you were on my call. What makes you think SPRINT is responsible for a phone your purchased from somebody on Ebay wether it be a Sprint customer or not? You are LUCKY they even allow you to use TEP on a phone that was not purchased from them. Now, here's what we can do, make a claim, pay the $100 and have it replaced or go back to the store and speak with the idiot that told you to call in.
Let me put it in perspective for you, when your car breaks you take it to the mechanic right? You don't just call Ford and they fix it over the phone or send you out a new truck to your home. There is NOTHING someone over the phone can do, the repair center has to do it all, granted most the time they send you something over the phone or break policy it's to shut the customer up and get rid of them. The store has to fix it, if they can't fix it, make a claim for you through the warranty or asurion. I really don't understand why this is so hard to understand. And please don't take this the wrong way it is not an attack on you personally, but it is definitely an attack on what should be common sense.

6ixtynin9 said:
I've had better luck. I was once placed in this exact situation. Brought my phone into Sprint to have it repair the lifting of screen. In-house techs repaired it, no questions asked (or blaming). One hour later, they called me back and issued me a new one, as their investigation determines hardware version 0002 was a manufature defect. Perhaps it's all based on locations, reps, your attitude towards them, etc. Where I'm from everyone one's laid back, reps are always friendly and don't really have to put up with too much of people's ****, because non really gives them **** to begin with. They even accept rooted phones too, where as I read that many other users have to unroot before bringing their phone into Sprint for replacement/repair.
If you don't mind paying a deductable ($100 max), call into customer service and request a replacement.
And to the dude who was previously on AT&T with iPhone, sure buddy. SURRRREEE. If you EVER had service with them, you of all people should know that AT&T & Apple will put you through hell. I should know, that's why I dropped AT&T & the iPhone 2G.
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That is what he said, with AT&T you're **** out of luck

Atrix Repair Runaround

Alright guys, I thought I'd share my my experience with Motorola's repair department. The reasons I sent my phone in were because the screen had some areas that had backlight bleeding and the MicroSD card reader didn't work.
When I first called, I was told by AT&T and Motorola customer representatives that once the phone was received by them, it would be shipped back out in two business days. Alright I happily agreed to that and opened an RMA because I needed my phone back as soon as possible. So it was opened and I sent my phone in.
The device was then received on the 4th.
I called in on the 7th to ask if it was shipped, and they said it would actually take 15 business days to ship! I was like what?! I was told two days by the other two representatives. I was then told to call back on a weekday as the repair department was closed.
I called again on the tenth to see the status of the repair and they said it should be shipped 5-7 business days from when the device was received. But I still couldn't talk to the repair department because I had called after they had closed.
I called in the next day, and they said that it would be shipped on the twelth, which was the day after.
I then called in on the 12th to make sure it was shipped, the representative said that the device should have shipped but the online repair status just hadn't updated yet and it should be updated by tonight.
I check today to see if the status has been updated, and guess what, no change, all it says is device received. So I call to make sure the device has shipped. Now I talk to a representative that says that it will actually be shipped on the 16th and he has no idea why the other three representatives said it would be shipped on the 12th. I ask to speak to a supervisor and I get transferred. I asked her why I've been given tons of different (and seemingly wrong) information by different representatives and what is really happening. I tell them that this is getting ridiculous and I have had to reschedule two train tickets and I've lost over $90 dollars because of false information I have received. The supervisor literally is speechless, all she says is please call back Monday.
What I'm wondering is that has anyone else had this kind of experience with Motorola? Or is it just bad luck on my end. And if this continues, is there anything I can do.

Wow that sounds pretty bad. How come you didn't just take the phone in to an AT&T store? My previous Atrix had a dead spot on the touchscreen so I took it back to the AT&T store. They looked at it and called an AT&T repair center so I can pick up a new Atrix that very same day. Sorry to hear about your situation, hope it gets sorted soon.
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I forgot to mention I actually did go to an AT&T store. They were the ones that suggested calling AT&T and Motorola and the first ones to say that it would be shipped out two days after it was received. I had the option of going to an AT&T repair center but the closest one was an hour away so I decided to do it by sending it in.

I know AT&T used to offer warranty swaps by overnight shipment, which ususally meant getting an advanced exchange in one or two days. This was on HTC TP2s and similar phones but I think they still offer the same service if you complain about going to an exchange center.

I had the same problem with AT&T when I was on the Inspire...I pitched a big enough fit and had the retention people upgrade me to the Atrix. Best thing I can tell ya to do from my own experience would be to call the main customer care number and raise hell about the time and money you have lost...Have them.credit your account for the service and such ...it's not much but it does help a little bit.
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Bob Simons said:
I know AT&T used to offer warranty swaps by overnight shipment, which ususally meant getting an advanced exchange in one or two days. This was on HTC TP2s and similar phones but I think they still offer the same service if you complain about going to an exchange center.
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Oh dam, I wish I had known about that earlier.
Diesel984 said:
I had the same problem with AT&T when I was on the Inspire...I pitched a big enough fit and had the retention people upgrade me to the Atrix. Best thing I can tell ya to do from my own experience would be to call the main customer care number and raise hell about the time and money you have lost...Have them.credit your account for the service and such ...it's not much but it does help a little bit.
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Hm... I'm gonna give that a try, thanks.

I've had devices swapped out, and all I did was call the main AT& T tech support number. This was on several Captivates and once on my wife's Inspire, although we found out after the Inspire didn't need it (unknown sources update problems).
In all cases I was offered an overnight shipping option at a small fee. I opted out, and in all cases my replacement was here within 3 days. Swap info, send old one back, done.
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I'm really sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. I actually had a similar problem with my phone regarding the screen burn image and went to the device support center. They were out of stock for a replacement Atrix but the associate placed an order for an overnight shipment. I was in possession of two phones at one time and had to agree to ship the defective one out within 14 days before facing a charge of $399. Anyway, I really appreciated the fact that I was never without a phone and the phone came in the next day and I shipped out my defective unit the day after.
They probably need to retrain the customer support reps to know the proper course of action for certain situations such as out of stock or too far of a location so that you are offered overnight shipping of a replacement.
One more question for the OP: were you expecting to get your same unit back? You said it was sent in for repair service so I'm wondering why you agreed to that instead of just swapping it out since you are still covered under the 1 year warranty.

ZyanyaMJ said:
I'm really sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. I actually had a similar problem with my phone regarding the screen burn image and went to the device support center. They were out of stock for a replacement Atrix but the associate placed an order for an overnight shipment. I was in possession of two phones at one time and had to agree to ship the defective one out within 14 days before facing a charge of $399. Anyway, I really appreciated the fact that I was never without a phone and the phone came in the next day and I shipped out my defective unit the day after.
They probably need to retrain the customer support reps to know the proper course of action for certain situations such as out of stock or too far of a location so that you are offered overnight shipping of a replacement.
One more question for the OP: were you expecting to get your same unit back? You said it was sent in for repair service so I'm wondering why you agreed to that instead of just swapping it out since you are still covered under the 1 year warranty.
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Sending it in for repair was my only option. They told me if I went to the place an hour away I would have to drop my unit off and pick it up two days later.
EDIT: So I thought that it would be easier to just send it in instead of having to drive that far.

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Sending it in for repair was my only option. They told me if I went to the place an hour away I would have to drop my unit off and pick it up two days later.
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Wow. So even at the physical place that was an hour away, they couldn't just swap it out? That is so strange. We are talking about an official AT&T Device Support Center, right?

ZyanyaMJ said:
Wow. So even at the physical place that was an hour away, they couldn't just swap it out? That is so strange. We are talking about an official AT&T Device Support Center, right?
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Yep, at least thats what the guy at the store told me.

So what are they currently doing to assist you? Are you just forced to be without a phone? I would seriously place a complaint with the BBB and with AT&T customer service. Not sure if it will help much but just to document the case at least.

ZyanyaMJ said:
So what are they currently doing to assist you? Are you just forced to be without a phone? I would seriously place a complaint with the BBB and with AT&T customer service. Not sure if it will help much but just to document the case at least.
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That was actually something I was thinking about doing. Also I did go to the BBB site but Motorola wasn't on the list, should I put it down with AT&T?
EDIT: Oh and nothing to assist me, AT&T and Motorola said I should be able to get a temporary phone while this repair was going on but I was completely denied.

ZyanyaMJ said:
So what are they currently doing to assist you? Are you just forced to be without a phone? I would seriously place a complaint with the BBB and with AT&T customer service. Not sure if it will help much but just to document the case at least.
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Alright I just called AT&T and they actually gave me a 65 dollar credit, which is half of my bill. THANK YOU very much for that bit of advice. Also They also said that I should call back tomorrow when the warranty center is open and they should be able to help escalate this issue further. As for the BBB complaint, if AT&T helps me out even further then I'll let it go but otherwise I'll file a complaint.

I sent my atrix to motorola also for repair got it back in 3 days unrepaired so i called them and said the water mark is still white she when on to say it could be caused by humidity i freaked and said so all the atrixs that are in texas right now are going to be void because texas has had triple digit reading for well over a month she was dumb founded and said let me escalate this higher sent me an overnight label and they have now had it for 9 days so who knows if it gets fixed this time they have the worst rating in customer service and repair...This will be my last Motorola phone

Sorry for your bad luck. Generally moto makes good hardware. All companies have lemons. What is sad is moto falls under the list of companies with general bad repair service. The only company i know of that has pretty good service overall is htc, but that might change since they're going to be more strict on warranty because of bootloaders.
I voided my warranty.

Well I got my phone back, just a heads up, like I said in the OP, they said it would be shipped on the 16th, however when I called in then, they said it would not be shipped that week at all because they had NO atrix's at all, new or refurb, and they were waiting on parts. I then filed a complaint with the BBB and informed motorola of the complaint. Guess what within an hour I got a second call saying the phone had shipped (this was at 8PM) and tomorrow morning a new phone was sitting on my doorstep. So if you guys are having major issues like me, just file a complaint with the BBB and motorola should comply.

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Well I got my phone back, just a heads up, like I said in the OP, they said it would be shipped on the 16th, however when I called in then, they said it would not be shipped that week at all because they had NO atrix's at all, new or refurb, and they were waiting on parts. I then filed a complaint with the BBB and informed motorola of the complaint. Guess what within an hour I got a second call saying the phone had shipped (this was at 8PM) and tomorrow morning a new phone was sitting on my doorstep. So if you guys are having major issues like me, just file a complaint with the BBB and motorola should comply.
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Ok thanks for the heads up if nothing happens by tomarrow thats just what i will do

Well... I just found another issue.... No computer is able to recognize the phone. I've tried three different computers and I've tried installing the proper drivers and still, all I get is the "USB Device Not Recognized" error on all three. Time to call them back...

probably is driver. reboot phone and computer.

Sprint Repair store (Very Troubling)

I just want to get a bead on what is going on here.
I was window Shopping in the Sprint store this morning & a guy had an OG EVO with a faulty charge port.
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1.I'm not sure of what insurance plan he had (it could be either TEP+Asu, or just Asurion) so this is where I need your help in clarification. But he definitely has insurance.
2. This particular Sprint Store has the Repair Center.
3. I didn't see a repair tech chime in on the conversation. (Odd as usually the repair techs themselves tell you what can or can't be done. Duties & Policies change so you never know here.)
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He explained this issue to the floor reps & the floor rep told him that they would have to refer him to Asurion ($100+) & get the phone repaired or possibly replaced that way as he claimed it was physical damage.
This customer was no newb (assuming, sounded like he had a clue & a goal anyway) to how this works & explained that he knew this was a common issue as at least two people he knew of, had that same issue with the charge port failing. He did not mention their experience on getting this issue resolved. He called it a defect & it wasn't from him abusing or dropping the phone, which he happily showed in great condition. (I agreed, silently).
They talked back & forth- in small circles getting to this:
The Floor Rep (who sounded very sure of this) said there was nothing this Sprint store could do, they couldn't fix or get him a new/refurb phone because it was technically still considered physical damage.
This went back & forth for about 10 more minutes & the customer was pissed. (Didn't curse or get childish) but he was disgusted that we would have to pay $100 for a manufacturer defect & that the Sprint "repair" center couldn't help him.
He rode on this wave of anger & promptly asked to cancel his service with Sprint. The floor rep easily complied to start the process. (Me thinking: WTF Idiot rep, get the manager!) I face-palmed after that & I left while they were going over the termination.
Now my question/s:
Was the rep right about what they couldn't do for that time of damage/defect? Was this the result because the customer lacking the TEP portion of his insurance?
Are some repair centers more capable than others for this type of damage?
Has some portions of coverage been removed recently aside from the "rarely charged for" $35 screen repairs?
Question for Sprint employees/ former employees: What options can you use to deter a customer from leaving in a situation like that? I feel the rep could've at least put up an inch of a fight to assist in a situation like that or request aid from a manager.
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that the sprint rep just wanted to show him who the boss was. I've never had any problems with the tech stores here repairing anything from broken screens to broken power buttons. Unless you bring your phone in two pieces or has been physically damaged they should warranty it out.

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The rep, IMHO, was incorrect for arguing with the customer over what was physical or man. defect. Being a Sprint TC, we are usually asked to go out and inspect the device, open it up and see whether the soldering points are intact or not. you can spot the difference rather quickly when it comes to defect or physical. The rep should have either gotten a TC involved or better yet a manager involved immediately. Most customers, and i mean that with all due respect to both parties, would much rather hear the reasoning from someone who is supposed to know what they are talking about. for some reason customers that i talk to seem to leave in a happier mood after speaking with me over the issue. I have had to step in during a heated discussion between a rep and a customer over issues like this, and I'm not even a lead, just a simple TC. Personally, I think it tends to sound a little more official from the person hired to actually WORK on the devices rather than hear from someone who simply sells it. We spend more time on our job opening them open and inspecting them, just like the reps spend their time selling customers on the device. just my opinion, I'm not looking to start a feud by any means

your response sounds more like a regular store experience for me..

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I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that the sprint rep just wanted to show him who the boss was. I've never had any problems with the tech stores here repairing anything from broken screens to broken power buttons. Unless you bring your phone in two pieces or has been physically damaged they should warranty it out.
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Yeah same here, I never had an experience like that. But it's been since the HTC Hero (2 years ago) that I've flexed my TEP. At this very store.
And then the sight of this floor rep allowing a current subscriber to leave without any counter-action. (IMHO: is worse than some random would be customer leaving). You don't have to be in retentions to save a subscriber.
I always have the golden rule of try trice (with different reps/stores) before deeming a crap policy as fact. But this guy was understandably baffled at how useless his experience was that led up to him cancelling.
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The rep should have either gotten a TC involved or better yet a manager involved immediately. Most customers, and i mean that with all due respect to both parties, would much rather hear the reasoning from someone who is supposed to know what they are talking about.
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Exactly. When he 1st came in explaining his visit, I thought he would log & direct him a TC.

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The rep, IMHO, was incorrect for arguing with the customer over what was physical or man. defect. Being a Sprint TC, we are usually asked to go out and inspect the device, open it up and see whether the soldering points are intact or not. you can spot the difference rather quickly when it comes to defect or physical. The rep should have either gotten a TC involved or better yet a manager involved immediately. Most customers, and i mean that with all due respect to both parties, would much rather hear the reasoning from someone who is supposed to know what they are talking about. for some reason customers that i talk to seem to leave in a happier mood after speaking with me over the issue. I have had to step in during a heated discussion between a rep and a customer over issues like this, and I'm not even a lead, just a simple TC. Personally, I think it tends to sound a little more official from the person hired to actually WORK on the devices rather than hear from someone who simply sells it. We spend more time on our job opening them open and inspecting them, just like the reps spend their time selling customers on the device. just my opinion, I'm not looking to start a feud by any means
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I agree with you, as a customer it does sound more official to hear the response from the person who is paid to actually work on the devices. A lot of people view salespeople as just that, salespeople. Someone to sell you something that you probably don't want or need, not someone to fix something that you have already bought and need repaired.
However, from a customer's point of view, he also may be arguing over the fact that it is for things like this in which he bought the insurance to begin with. If I'm spending $8 per month for God knows how long, the last thing I want to hear is "No, we won't repair your phone." In that case, Sprint could really do a better job of educating its customers as to what the insurance really covers. Most people view it as the equivalent of the add-on service plan that you can get at Best Buy or everywhere else, which basically will get your device fixed or replaced (or some money back) if your device fails after the manufacturer's warranty runs out. Apparently that isn't the case with TEP, however that's not how the salespeople sell it. I was in a Sprint store last month with my Dad upgrading his phone, and the sales rep offered it to us by saying "If anything goes wrong with your phone, bring it in and we'll repair it."
He had to backpedal when I started asking him questions about fixing water damage and extreme gross physical neglect...
BigJohn

Same exact thing happened to me. I called Sprint and still no luck. I eventually had a screen problem and the store replaced the phone for me.
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I think that is a prime example of ignorance and lack of care for customers. I have been to many crappy sprint stores who have done similar things. Fortunately I have found a sprint store in my neighborhood who treats their customers with respect and are mostly knowledgeable. Tbh that customer should have escalated it to talk to the manager or just go to another sprint store.
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The repair stores are filled with 1 good person to fix phones and 5 idiots. They all depend on 1 tech to actually fix things, and when they can't, the only solution to their problem is.. uh.. Ill have to have u call Asurion. Idiotttts.

This is exactly why the reps in my store immediately hand off any problem phones to a tech. They ask qualifying questions but never argue with the customer. It's up to the tech to determine what's wrong with the phone, and if necessary, "argue" with the customer.
I always explain TEP with a car analogy. You pay an insurance premium on your car in order to carry coverage. If you wreck your car, you pay a deductible and have it fixed.
Evo charging port is a very sensitive issue. I've had some that are obvious physical damage yet the customer still argues and calls me a liar.

So what does TEP actually cover?

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So what does TEP actually cover?
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Ability to get upgrades every 1 year instead of every 2 years. That's about it.
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I find that going to an authorized retailer with a repair center works better, I went to a sprint store and they wanted me too buy this or that, battery, etc... Went to a reseller and they replaced my uninsured phone for $35, under faulty USB charger. Also try to go on days they aren't slammed with customers so they can give you the proper attention..

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Ability to get upgrades every 1 year instead of every 2 years. That's about it.
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Seriously?
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Seriously?
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Lol, yeah! I envy everyone else here with their success stories. Sprint stores do chit here for their customers! I'm on a 6 line business plan and they say sorry can't help you any time I walk in to a repair center. We been with sprint since a little before Nextel merger; how ever many years ago that was. I have yet to get a phone properly taken care of even with our insurance. I feel that when they see that there is an issue in device and that they should fix, they just point me to asurion. They never help. Feed us excuse after excuse. Anyone in the orange county area of California have good repair center experiences? Won't be surprised if all responses are No!
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mbaseball3 said:
Ability to get upgrades every 1 year instead of every 2 years. That's about it.
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Umm, absolutely not.

Hmmm
I've had my share of issues with the Sprint store where I live. Almost from the time I got the phone I was having issues with it and all they were willing to was a factory reset. They actually let me sit in the store for over an hour (with my two year old son) the last time I went. After we were both tired of sitting I got up and asked the tech about it. He told me "Oh yeah, well the screen is locked and I couldn't get into it" I was floored and pissed off. Someone could have asked me considering I told them I would wait. After that I decided it was time for me to figure it all out on my own.

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I've had my share of issues with the Sprint store where I live. Almost from the time I got the phone I was having issues with it and all they were willing to was a factory reset. They actually let me sit in the store for over an hour (with my two year old son) the last time I went. After we were both tired of sitting I got up and asked the tech about it. He told me "Oh yeah, well the screen is locked and I couldn't get into it" I was floored and pissed off. Someone could have asked me considering I told them I would wait. After that I decided it was time for me to figure it all out on my own.
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Wow
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mskeys2xx3 said:
I've had my share of issues with the Sprint store where I live. Almost from the time I got the phone I was having issues with it and all they were willing to was a factory reset. They actually let me sit in the store for over an hour (with my two year old son) the last time I went. After we were both tired of sitting I got up and asked the tech about it. He told me "Oh yeah, well the screen is locked and I couldn't get into it" I was floored and pissed off. Someone could have asked me considering I told them I would wait. After that I decided it was time for me to figure it all out on my own.
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We have data preservation sheets for that, which all customers are required to sign. It includes a place to draw your pattern lock or write down any other codes.

Well it would have been nice if someone had asked/told me that when they took my phone. I like just stop talking and give me my phone back before I am unable to control this urge to punch you in the face.

Htc awful customer service and warranty department

Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.

jody04c said:
Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!

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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
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Its no surprise they are a failing company when that is how they treat loyal customers who have a genuine quality control issue. The support from HTC is disgusting. I'm glad to hear they have lost another customer due to their awful support.

I have had zero problems with their customer service or warranty. In fact they corrected a problem sprint created. Everyone has a different experience. Samsung and apple both treated me like ****. Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Well there are also customers that drop their phone and it breaks glass, scratches, dents, dings, starts malfunctioning, etc....and then they call HTC and say it is defective and not their fault. Unfortunately HTC has no way of knowing who is lying and who is not. If they exchanged phones for every customer that claimed defect, they would be exchanging phones that people broke left and right. Certain things shouldn't come loose or start to rattle and if that starts happening they will know it is a defect once they get enough cases. Unfortunately with glass, it is the easiest and most common thing broken on a phone, so doing warranty replacements for broken glass is rare. A screen protector and case do nothing for protecting the camera glass. Most people this has happened to are blaming excessive heat. So I'm assuming you had your phone on the charger over night and it may have overheated from the charger. It would be nice if HTC would at least make an effort to investigate and see if this is possibly happening.

I've only had one experience with HTC customer service, but they replaced the pink tint camera on my M7 for just the labor costs even though it was out of warranty and two years old. YMMV, I guess.

I had this problem as well. It's like talking to a wall with these guys. If you say we will replace your phone no matter what the problem,no questions asked, than you best live up it. When I called, I was bombarded with questions and told I had to pay for them to fix it.

I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable). But there was a chance I'd have to pay for repair even though there was obviously damage related to neglect. Also, I work remotely, so I have to have my phone for work and the only option was for me to send it in and wait for repair. Anyway, I was frustrated and ended up taking the phone to an AT&T service center and sweet talking them to swap it out for me.
My second experience with HTC was more recent and much better. I had my M8 in my shirt pocket and bent over to pick something up and it slipped out onto the concrete. The glass cracked and there was damage to the metal body. This time I used chat support and the rep couldn't have been better to deal with. I told him what happened, and he checked and said I was eligible for a replacement under the screen replacement policy. I told him that the metal had also been damaged, and he asked me to describe the damage, and while he wouldn't say with 100% certainty that there wouldn't be a problem swapping it out (understandable since I could have been under-reporting the level of damage) he said kind of off the record that if the damage was as I described, there wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, they put a $599 hold on my card + $29 for overnight shipping and the next day I had my new M8 and sent my damaged one back. About a week later the hold was removed from my card.
Anyway, I've had awful CS experiences at a lot of places and then later had great ones. I think it's really hit or miss with these large corporations.
Finally, I think HTC is attempting to shift their warranty policy to be more liberal in replacing/repairing physically damaged phones and honoring warranty for unlocked ones. It seems like this shift isn't going as smoothly as some of us consumers would like.

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Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Please expand on that

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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!

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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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Yeah, too often it seem to depend on what CSR you get, and how their supervisor has been behaving that week.
I've twice had to get the trackpad on my MBP replaced, both times were my fault (too much eating and drinking at my desk :silly, and both times Apple fixed it no questions asked under the protection plan.

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Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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When you figure that out pls share the secret!
My wife has a freaking blackberry z10!!! That she doesn't want to give up because "everything is set up how she wants it".....
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I can tell you that Apple is undoubtedly the BEST in the service and support department! I just don't understand how these other companies can't see how simple it is and just do it the way Apple does! I mean, it makes me not want to buy another Samsung, LG or HTC product, because ALL of them I have had issues with at one point or another. The one time I had an issue with Apple I was so pissed off that I called in to customer care and spoke to a manager about the problem that I had at a store nearby. She saw that I had purchased about 10 Apple devices in the last 8 years or so, and gave me $150 credit for Apple accessories and also next day aired me a brand new 6 Plus because the Apple store would not replace it after I was having problems and I just got done spending almost a grand for the damn thing! These phones are expensive, and if these companies can't take care of us then go somewhere else because someone is willing to take care of you the right way! Just like this G4 I have that has marks on the display due to a screen coating issue at the plant. Because it;s an International model they won't touch it! WOW I understand that companies don't honor some warranties when you buy an imported phone, but when it's 3 days old and the phone just came out and it has defects that are 100% LG's fault, they should have just told me to send the damn thing in and they would fix it, now they lost my business! That just cost them quite a bit considering I buy EVERY damn flagship that comes out! (almost) They don't care though.... -END OF RANT-

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I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable).
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)

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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.

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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order

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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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I wasn't blaming the person. There was already a thread on XDA aboout the issue, but I imagine CS reps are discouraged from acknowledging internet speculation. I was frustrated with the system that was going to make me send my phone in for repair rather than them sending me a new one (with a CC hold, obviously) and then me sending the defective one back. I guess it wasn't clear in my post, but I use this phone for work and didn't have a backup.

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Haha, you should. It's exactly as you say it is to the company "just speculation", companies always use bull**** like "only vocal minority" to deceive others. So they rather keep it quiet and ignore forums like this on purpose

I owned a beautiful metallic red HTC One m7 untill recently. It was rooted + BL unlocked (not S-off) since day1 and never ran stock rom. I started noticing all the pictures were out of focus and that camera was stuck in macro mode. I took it back to shop for warranty (it was 1y 8 months old) and they sent it back to HTC for repair. Bootloader showed Relock and it was on an old stock rom nandroid that I found from internet
Almost 3 weeks later it was back, with new camera that was excellent again. They updated to latest Lollipop rom even, with BL still in relock. However they messed up upper speaker grill as the metal was no longer flush with body (stuck out enough to be clearly felt by finger when swiping on screen). I took it back to shop, complained and it got sent away again.
Another 2,5 weeks go by and I get the phone back. This time HTC completely changed the body and screen. It was like having a brand new One M7 in beautiful red. It had still same motherboard and still relock BL. However.... they forgot to install/connect the headset speaker.. so I had no sound when calling someone >_>. Back to shop, complain, explain and return the phone..
So a week later I got the phone back. Except I didnt get the phone back. What I got back was a 32GB M9 in gunmetal grey. I am both happy to have a proper upgrade and for free, a little sad to see my lovely M7 taken from me and quite disappointed in the QC of HTC repair centres.