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SMS 'TAP TO COMPOSE YOUR TEXT' Problem

Is anyone else experiencing this when attempting to reply to a sms message.
The message 'Tap to compose your text' appears but it wont let me 'tap'. I have to wait for about 10 seconds before tapping the screen actually allows me to compose a reply.

Yes, I have delays in the text messaging app. It is very laggy. I can be typing and press a key 3 or 4 times before it registers.

Cheers, I've just figured it out, the issue only happens when I have lots of messages to load in a conversation. It doesn't occur when its a short conversation with one or two messages in.

i think its a known bug keep your conversation list down by backing up on myphone is a suggestion i read somewhere, then you can delete on your phone without losing them completely
hope thats helpful

yes its all do do with the amount of messages in the "thread" but even if i've got say 100 messages in a convo ....whys it lag so much ??? its only loading kilobytes of info... and for the spec of the phone i find this poor coding very annoying !!!!!!!!!!!!

if you look bottom right of the screen (just right of the paper clip) you'll see a thin grey line decreasing . When that's finished you can tap and type. And yes the more sms you have the more the delay.

I have the sams problem. I have over 500 texts under some contacts. and It's a big waiting game to answer a text.
I dont understand why HTC have choosen to load ALL texts. the last 20 would have been enough.
In the new ROM 1.48 the problem is the same.

Torben-h said:
I have the sams problem. I have over 500 texts under some contacts. and It's a big waiting game to answer a text.
I dont understand why HTC have choosen to load ALL texts. the last 20 would have been enough.
In the new ROM 1.48 the problem is the same.
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I must say HTC developers are under qualified. END.

Xeon said:
I must say HTC developers are under qualified. END.
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haha ! here here !!!!

erosennin said:
if you look bottom right of the screen (just right of the paper clip) you'll see a thin grey line decreasing . When that's finished you can tap and type. And yes the more sms you have the more the delay.
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Wooo!! Cheers for this info!! Love you!! LOL I've been wondering why it takes so bloody long, but it's cos I have several hundred messages in the main thread!!

goth_boarder said:
Wooo!! Cheers for this info!! Love you!! LOL I've been wondering why it takes so bloody long, but it's cos I have several hundred messages in the main thread!!
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You're most welcome. Hope you're a bombshell, blonde with blue eyes.

Torben-h said:
I have the sams problem. I have over 500 texts under some contacts. and It's a big waiting game to answer a text.
I dont understand why HTC have choosen to load ALL texts. the last 20 would have been enough.
In the new ROM 1.48 the problem is the same.
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Oh man, that sucks was hoping it would be fixed there
I'm actually beginning to get a little dissapointed by the official rom
I love tweaking stuff etc... but having problems with something every other phone handles perfectly like SMS is ridiculous.

Stormenet said:
Oh man, that sucks was hoping it would be fixed there
I'm actually beginning to get a little dissapointed by the official rom
I love tweaking stuff etc... but having problems with something every other phone handles perfectly like SMS is ridiculous.
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you are rigt.100% right mate.i am so pissed off about this.

Has anyone actually fed this into HTC to make them aware of the issue so they know it is everyone who is complaining and not just a select few?

nicelad_uk said:
Has anyone actually fed this into HTC to make them aware of the issue so they know it is everyone who is complaining and not just a select few?
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Well, I've actually reported this today, as I am sick of it
I wonder if HTC uses their own phones they make...

I think they made it for people like me who delete every sms at the end of the day. Don't get mad, just a joke but that's really what I do unless I need to keep it for reference in which case I copy it to an alarmed note.

It's a rather strange issue. I have several lengthy conversations (not 500 messages long, of course, but with dozens of them), and all but one load instantly and the keyboard pops up also instantly. One of them is incredibly laggy, although it's like 10 messages long. The only difference I see is that the other person has a contact picture attached and she is my wife.

Perhaps is there a way (cab, setting, ...) to makes auto-delete messages after a certain limit (for example, delete messages when there's more than 50...) ? Already looked in settings, but didn't found that..

Here are work-arounds for the SMS lag problem...
Option 1:
when the SMS conversation is building (the gray bar is shrinking), just click the SEND button. It will prompt "This message is blank...", then click No, and it will go back to the SMS conversation -- but this time, there is no lag and you can start typing after pressing the "Tap here to compose text"
Option 2:
if there is one or two persons that you exchange lots of SMS with, put them as a Quick Link (to SMS) on the front page. That way, when you press the Quick Link, it starts a direct SMS composition without dialogue, and thus no lag.
Can't wait till HTC properly fix this!
Enjoy!
Meow

MeowMeowMan said:
Option 1:
when the SMS conversation is building (the gray bar is shrinking), just click the SEND button. It will prompt "This message is blank...", then click No, and it will go back to the SMS conversation -- but this time, there is no lag and you can start typing after pressing the "Tap here to compose text"
Option 2:
if there is one or two persons that you exchange lots of SMS with, put them as a Quick Link (to SMS) on the front page. That way, when you press the Quick Link, it starts a direct SMS composition without dialogue, and thus no lag.
Can't wait till HTC properly fix this!
Enjoy!
Meow
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Option 1 doesn't works here, the second does

wholly freaking text messaging problems batman!!!

ok so this phone is the best phone i have had.. except who ever tested the text messaging app must not have alot of friends..
i get about 20 people in the list of messages and my whole phone messes up..
i click one guy and the message gets sent to the guy at the bottom of the list.
you gotta really watch out, because it has the right name but the wrong number.
when i click messages from someone with more then 20 it takes 20 seconds to load them up and sometimes when i go back to the today screen the phone crashes..
sometimes i hear the text message sound and i have no new messages..
come to find out the message went ON TOP of the list from that sender.. not on the bottom.
sometimes the indicator that you have a new message never goes away, even after you read it..
anyone else having huge text problems?

first of all great title
im completely with you mate the texting on this phone is a joke
who's clever idea was it to load every single text every time you want to send 1?
plus the keyboard lag is a royal pain in the ass especially as im a fast typer
i have had no problems with sending texts to wrong people however, i think, maybe some people are having a real laugh at my expense..
i hope it gets fixed soon
i just dont understand how an iphone, with some 400mhz processor is 100x smoother than this phone
there must be some real fault somewhere

aarons6 said:
ok so this phone is the best phone i have had.. except who ever tested the text messaging app must not have alot of friends..
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that was really funny.
ROM 1.66 fixed much of this, but still known bugs remain - as reported in this forum.
You were lucky not to be around in Dec 09, when you had to soft reset every time you sent an sms which got 'stuck' in the Outbox!!!
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i forgot to put in that is the tmobile US HD2..

The HTC messaging app is not meant for hardcore text messagers. To stop it from loading every message, you can tap on a message then hit back.
One of the solutions is to disable the HTC messaging and use the default WM6.5 threaded SMS. Google search "disable HTC messaging" and look for Zenyee's CAB to disable it, then look in the WM Theme forum here to find some nice looking WM SMS themes.
The other solution is to disable HTC messaging and use something like BsB Tweaks to enable SMS classic mode, which takes you to an older version of the SMS app when you tap on a message in the messaging tab, that doesn't lag like the new one does, but it doesn't look as nice.

aarons6 said:
i forgot to put in that is the tmobile US HD2..
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I send 100-150 texts a day, and receive just as much.
I never have any problems.
i use full QWERTY and texting speed is quite nice. I mean, multi-touch keyboard would be NICE, but it gets the job done for now.
As much as TMOUS stock ROM fixed lots of glitches, it still doesn't beat most of the ROMs cooked by chefs here.
Try flashing (at your own risk, of course), then see how much your phone has evolved.

Have you tried changing it from conversation mode to traditional mode?
Menu, settings, traditional mode

are there any different messaging clients which can be used instead?

SMS and Swype

Apologies if this is a known issue but I have just spent 30 minutes searching and cannot find it.
When creating a new SMS message, if I start typing a name using Swype then no automatic look up is taking place, however if I backspace the last character typed, then the matching contact names appear. I have no problems when using the standard keyboard. (I do not think this is related to the known Swype and loading messages issue)

I have had issues with SMS on my Leo. To me, it seems to be related to the amount of previous messages you have for that person. For some odd reason it wants to try and load the whole thread before letting you type. Once you get to about 300 or so in the thread, it really slows things down.
Then again, i'm new to Winmo and phone hacking so I do not have any mem tweaks yet that could help with that issue.
So, if anyone knows... let us know!

Known swype issue mate, I have not found a fix, always delete the last character as you have done.

its not a known issue its something htc programmed it to do. its meant to only bring up with a few letters but if you know the whole name then it should automatically add the number. does it for mine just type the first few letters and they should show up

@op, yea, swype does that here too.
sherlockpwnz said:
does it for mine just type the first few letters and they should show up
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with swype, though? we know it comes up with other keyboards, but it doesnt with swype till you delete a letter.
Are you missing the OP's point, or am i missunderstanding your post?

Am i the only one that gets a fair amount of delay sometimes in SMS with swype? Just entering text in a message can sometimes cause the keyboard to stop working, it onyl effects swype and eventually (about 10sec) all is fine again.
Thinking of going back to the normal keyboard because of this issue

yep, and in landscape, just dont bother, hehe.
I generally switch to phonepad for txt's tho, so it's not an issue. (Doesnt seem to lag when doing other stuff, posting to here, for instance.)

Any way to prevent or even have the texts in a thread preloaded or something to fix the load-lag in sms? My screen locks until all of the texts are finished loading. Many times i can start texting and it will catch up, but not always.
Prob the most annoying thing i've come across so far..

the most annoying thing about hd2 so far

have you ever caught yourself typing a phone number, and for some reason you must leave the phone before saving the number, and then when you come back, the phone is already on standby/lock and the numbers you type has just lost into thin air? it's the same when you're viewing a conversation history in htc messaging. once the phone goes to auto standby/lock, the message you were viewing is gone.
anyone knows the solution to that? thanks.

The FM radio reception of HD2 is bad. The background noise and interruption really pisses you off.

the well known video playback audio delay of about 250 ms issue is by far the most painful, will HTC ever fix it ????

dan138zig said:
have you ever caught yourself typing a phone number, and for some reason you must leave the phone before saving the number, and then when you come back, the phone is already on standby/lock and the numbers you type has just lost into thin air? it's the same when you're viewing a conversation history in htc messaging. once the phone goes to auto standby/lock, the message you were viewing is gone.
anyone knows the solution to that? thanks.
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adjust your backlight settings so the phone doesn't go to standby so far. Also turn off the autolock feature and you can manually lock the phone instead.

bigdonk said:
the well known video playback audio delay of about 250 ms issue is by far the most painful, will HTC ever fix it ????
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The same one I wouldn't even know about without reading on here.

for me, the most annoying thing about the hd2 is that the proximity sensor plays games with me sometimes, combined with this useless phonecall-lock-screen (HUGE hang up and unlock buttons!) is really a pain in the ass. if there was just an application that shut off the screen when making a phone call until i press any hardware key...
(and no, i don't want an iphone-looking lockscreen on my htc)

bigdonk said:
the well known video playback audio delay of about 250 ms issue is by far the most painful, will HTC ever fix it ????
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not painful at all if you use tcpmp or coreplayer. just adjust the settings and you're ready to go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7119860&postcount=302

The fact that it only worked as it was supposed to for 30 days. This means that from my 6 months of HD2 experience, only one was proper.

Until we got summer temps here I was maximum satisfied with my HD2: running smoothly, once a month maybe a freeze (to be corrected with batt out). Now, at high summer temps, it´s completely useless: doesn´t charge in the car, freezes when it gets hot in the car in navi-mode (and even without navi on).
This phone is only for polar-researchers ..........

Here are a few off the top of my head...
1) There are no 'real' snooze options when a calendar appointment alert pops up (WORKAROUND: Restored the WM default)
2) The 'Cannot delete SMS messages when saved to SIM card' bug (WORKAROUND: Put SIM card in another phone, delete the message, and put back into the HD2)
3) Not being able to disable the irritating clock 'flip' animation when turning on the screen. (WORKAROUND: ???)
4) When locking the screen, there is no way to set it up so where you can unlock it via just the slider and NOT having to enter in your password (WORKAROUND: ???)

I hate its keyboard its so annoying ..its so innacurate ...whenevrr i use it ...it feels like someone else is typing not me ... ii press j and the keyboard detects it as m ....anyone got any solution ?

use slide-it, slide or type is good for me.
Until now i am sattisfied with the phone after a few cabs like cookie home tab and another radio. I don`t play games and use some apps for news and forum like xda. for me its great, i like the size. One minor thing is a blob in the screen which is expensive to make, because i don`t trust myself to do it.
kk

The only thing for me is the lack of apps and the keyboard could be better...
I'm running Elegancia rom with CHT and its transformed the phone for me, i would have sent it back after a week running a stock rom...
My missus has just got a HD Mini the keyboard is miles better even though its smaller, is it a different screen does anyone know, i've tried all the different sensitivity options with the HD2 and i've got it so its liveable with, but the Mini is much much better out the box...

coolbeer1990 said:
I hate its keyboard its so annoying ..its so innacurate ...whenevrr i use it ...it feels like someone else is typing not me ... ii press j and the keyboard detects it as m ....anyone got any solution ?
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I agree the keyboard is absolutly crap. I can`t believe that given the amount of ROM updates there has been ( I flash ALOT) that they still haven`t fixed this issue. I hate the Iphone but typing on my misses is perfect. 100% accurate all the time.
To be honest my HD2 keyboard is only any good shortly after flashing a new rom, it seems great for a few days and then slowly deteriates to completely inaccurate and painstaking to type any sort of message. I just don`t bother writing long text messages anymore.
The swype keyboards are just as useless as i can`t see the letters whilst my finger is on the keyboard.
I refuse to do any registry tweeks as to honest why should I. Just sort it out.......

richie_jones said:
I refuse to do any registry tweeks as to honest why should I. Just sort it out.......
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I dont think a WM phone is for you then..............
Most annoying thing about the HD2............. people spending their time moaning about it when they could be sorting out the problem...........

lol... do you also "refuse" to take your car to a shop if something isnt right with it? what a childish attitude. winmo phones are blank slates, they are meant to be customized. if you refuse to do anything to change it to your liking, i suggest getting a blackberry or a sidekick.
anyway... one thing i dont like about the hd2 is the capacitive screen. i like the fact that its glass, but its SO damn inaccurate. i rarely used the hardware keyboard on my touch pro 2, i just tapped out texts with the onscreen keyboard with my thumbnails so its not like i NEED a physical keyboard, i just wish this one was accurate. i wish i could use my thumbnails now, i have more backspaces than actual letters now typing with the pads of my thumbs. ive tried every tweak too, its passable but still infuriating.
oh, another thing i hate- the sound quality. it SUCKS! same story too, ive tried every tweak & its passable, but still crappy.

bobthemad said:
Here are a few off the top of my head...
3) Not being able to disable the irritating clock 'flip' animation when turning on the screen. (WORKAROUND: ???)
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kabuk1 said:
oh, another thing i hate- the sound quality. it SUCKS! same story too, ive tried every tweak & its passable, but still crappy.
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do you mean the sound from the speaker or even when you're wearing headphone? because the sound is fine with a good headphone.

richie_jones said:
I agree the keyboard is absolutly crap. I can`t believe that given the amount of ROM updates there has been ( I flash ALOT) that they still haven`t fixed this issue. I hate the Iphone but typing on my misses is perfect. 100% accurate all the time.
To be honest my HD2 keyboard is only any good shortly after flashing a new rom, it seems great for a few days and then slowly deteriates to completely inaccurate and painstaking to type any sort of message. I just don`t bother writing long text messages anymore.
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+1, even with the newer ROMs and trying Swype and Slide-It, I still sread sending long emails/texts

bobthemad said:
Here are a few off the top of my head...
1) There are no 'real' snooze options when a calendar appointment alert pops up (WORKAROUND: Restored the WM default)
2) The 'Cannot delete SMS messages when saved to SIM card' bug (WORKAROUND: Put SIM card in another phone, delete the message, and put back into the HD2)
3) Not being able to disable the irritating clock 'flip' animation when turning on the screen. (WORKAROUND: ???)
4) When locking the screen, there is no way to set it up so where you can unlock it via just the slider and NOT having to enter in your password (WORKAROUND: ???)
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1. don't have a lot of appt's so I don't know
2. Why are you saving texts to a sim? Use microsoft myphone.
http://sn1-p2.myphone.microsoft.com/mkweb/Start.po?mkt=en-US
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6127127&postcount=2
4. go under settings, lock and disable your password. It will ask for your password, then click the check mark (ok) and it will disable it.

[Q] Double Letters on Gingerbread Keyboard?

So I searched and couldn't find a direct answer basically here it goes,
I'm using CM7 and the gingerbread keyboard that comes stock. This has been happening since alpha and it slows down my texting. I'm a big texter, and I send about 25-35 thousand texts a month. So I need this to be fixed!
What happens, is that when I'm normally texting sometimes letters will automatically type themselves twice. Such as if I'm texting the word "always" it will usually come out as "aalways" and it looks dumb. I love the gingerbread keyboard but I might have to result in using another keyboard if this continues!(Does this drain battery life?) I don't want to use swype.
If there's a fix let me know! And I checked for a calibration setting and couldn't find one :/

Also happens to me. I just go back and fix it. It's not a HUGE problem, but it's there.

Happens to me also. I Googled it to make sure I'm not the only one. I was starting to think I had the beginning signs of Parkinsons. It's good to know I'm not the only one.
I've also noticed that there are times when the auto-suggest does not work. If you stop typing for a few seconds it comes back. And I've also had a problem with the keyboard not responding as fast I am typing and I have to slow down so it can keep up.

Did you try downloading a different keyboard from the market?

Yeah I'm actually using a downloaded gingerbread keyboard from the market. It just happens often enough to slow down my texting.
myTouch4G+Custom ROM

Yes, this is a frustrating reoccurring issue. Sometimes it'll even give you double letters of two of the first letters in a word, for example, "like ththis." It's especially ridiculous when it happens to only two letter words, like "to" for example, which results in "I'm going toto the movies."
I've filed a report with Google, so please visit the link and star and add your own testimony if you wish. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14755
I even made a video demonstrating the problem to show Google. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUZdvr6Pdjk

Smart Keyboard Pro was my solution. Got tired of always getting "toto" when I type "to." And I also always get the doubt first letter on the word.

I'm on an epic 4g and I have this problem also. If you turn on the language packs when you push space bar and a quickly it wont register the "a". This problem doesn't occur nearly as often when typing with the language packs off. Just another thing to add to the complaint ;-)