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HTC is SHAFTING us, US HD2b to have 576Mb of RAM & 1Gb or ROM!

Damnit just saw this: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...2-to-have-more-ram-rom-than-original-version/
That's a boatload of memory!
I hate when they do this!

MasterTP said:
Damnit just saw this: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010...2-to-have-more-ram-rom-than-original-version/
That's a boatload of memory!
I hate when they do this!
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I am not sure i believe this... How many times before have things been leaked and they have been wrong.
It could just be one of those typos that we see so often from a non tech source.

It is true
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2?view=0-12&sort=0#tech-specs

glewis101 said:
I am not sure i believe this... How many times before have things been leaked and they have been wrong.
It could just be one of those typos that we see so often from a non tech source.
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Uh, non-tech source? The source is HTC.

It is probably true, But mayb our HD2 has it aswell but not actived yet.
Don;t think HTC will do something like that.

xmoo said:
It is probably true, But mayb our HD2 has it aswell but not actived yet.
Don;t think HTC will do something like that.
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This is possible (remember the pre-realese roms only showed 320Mb or Ram).

MasterTP said:
Uh, non-tech source? The source is HTC.
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who knows still may be a typo....... has anyone done a teardown of our HD2 to see what mem chips are in it ?? this may see if it is not active in our devices, which i doubt.

whats up with the htc aaaah hope our hd2 is that much powerfull

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Why not?

yeah, like the same thing has never happened the other way around.
it's our prize for getting the device ~5 months later then you.

I have had my HD2 less than a week.
I have just emailed HTC to tell them that I will be returning it if I do not get answers. It is that simple. The important question is Windows Mobile 7 upgradable?
It leaves me with a bad feeling...

constructorx said:
I have had my HD2 less than a week.
I have just emailed HTC to tell them that I will be returning it if I do not get answers. It is that simple. The important question is Windows Mobile 7 upgradable?
It leaves me with a bad feeling...
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it's not their fault that you couldn't wait they sold you a device with 512 mb ROM. They didn't lie or something. it's like i buy an iphone 1g and say after 3 years: "if you don't upgrade this to 3gs, ill sue you."
anyways a lil bit more ram/rom isn't a big deal for me.

shu8i said:
it's not their fault that you couldn't wait they sold you a device with 512 mb ROM. They didn't lie or something. it's like i buy an iphone 1g and say after 3 years: "if you don't upgrade this to 3gs, ill sue you."
anyways a lil bit more ram/rom isn't a big deal for me.
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It's not their fault I could not wait? Wait for what exactly? Oh... wait for the new slightly upgraded HD2 that was so very clearly publicised and advertised? Can you show me where it was publicised that there would be a new version released so I could make a choice?
Think before typing....

shu8i said:
it's not their fault that you couldn't wait they sold you a device with 512 mb ROM. They didn't lie or something. it's like i buy an iphone 1g and say after 3 years: "if you don't upgrade this to 3gs, ill sue you."
anyways a lil bit more ram/rom isn't a big deal for me.
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If this (RAM/ROM) is the only change (apart from band changes) that's all fine - however I have a sneaky feeling they will also have sorted out the pink camera issue (new lens perhaps) with these later revisions - in which case I will definitely demand an upgrade.

Sooo poor
UK Vodafone HD2 user. We've already been stiffed over the poor quality of the early ROM's with camera quality, stability issues and lets not mention the on going saga that is the stuck sms issue in the outbox which hasnt been rectifyed yet and now this!
We truely have been stiffed on this one which the release of double ROM and upgraded Ram in the US. They should allows us to sub our phones in like Apple and O2 did when they upgraded iPhones from Edge to 3G v.quickly for those on £40 or more contracts could swap their phones for free.

I'm just worried that the US device will be the minimum required for Windows Mobile with the push they are making, leaving Europe and Asia with no official upgrade. If they had to replaced all those outside the US that's a great hassle no company or indeed consumer will wish to endure.

This is bull****, what are HTC playing at? To me this is the equivalent of buying a gamesconsole and then a few months later they release one with more ram so it can play games which the first version cant i.e....windows mobile 7, I bet ours cant and theirs can.

Megacamz said:
This is bull****, what are HTC playing at? To me this is the equivalent of buying a gamesconsole and then a few months later they release one with more ram so it can play games which the first version cant i.e....windows mobile 7, I bet ours cant and theirs can.
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Email HTC and demand clarification. The more people do that the more likely some action from HTC on the issue. I agree with what you say...

Megacamz said:
This is bull****, what are HTC playing at?
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If true, the above is all that needs to be said.

constructorx said:
It's not their fault I could not wait? Wait for what exactly? Oh... wait for the new slightly upgraded HD2 that was so very clearly publicised and advertised? Can you show me where it was publicised that there would be a new version released so I could make a choice?
Think before typing....
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it's not their job to publicise everything they are gonna publish like the nexus one: rumor, rumor, rumor; 1 week befor release: official. it's like general knowledge. If i buy a phone now, the retailer won't tell me: oh, if you wait another 5 months, there will be better phones on the market.
dude it's technology. everything is improving over time. and they are NOT supposed to advertise everything

HD2 to be traded for Nexus One

Anyone got a Nexus One and wants to trade for a HD2?
Let me know!!
TJ

trade
Im interested in trading the nexus one for hd2

Where are you located? Am UK.

from texas , US

Not sure how we would work it with you being in Texas!
If you can work out a suitable method feel free to let me know!
Otherwise Trade still wanted in UK.

how did u get the HD2 if you don't mind me asking? I am in texas

gtrplr71 said:
how did u get the HD2 if you don't mind me asking? I am in texas
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you can order anywhere online, ebay, craigslist.... its the euro version/telstra version

gtrplr71 said:
how did u get the HD2 if you don't mind me asking? I am in texas
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The HD2 has been out in EU for over a month now.

Hi! I'm an O2 customer and this was my chosen upgrade. I wish I'd gone for Android to be honest but they didn't offer any snapdragon based models.

the Europe model will only allow edge connection here in the usa.

if ur still interested let me know ... i bet there would be something that we could work out !

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how did u get the HD2 if you don't mind me asking? I am in texas
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europe has had the hd2 for a little while. t mobile will be getting the hd2 soon. march sometime, i believe

What OS is the hd2 coming with? is it still on Win Mobile?

yes, it will be a WinMo phone, and likely only wm 6.5. there are those that are hoping that it will get WM7 later this year, but most reports indicate that it will not be capable of running WM7 at all. my impression is that there are currently no phones available that will be able to run wm7 at all. whole new architecture

That is truly a shame as the HD2 looks fantastic with that screen and WinMo 7 would surely look great on it whenever it gets out!

interesting trade..

Seanambers said:
That is truly a shame as the HD2 looks fantastic with that screen and WinMo 7 would surely look great on it whenever it gets out!
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HTC have posted letters to some users requesting the upgrade stating that they will be providing a Windows 7 upgrade in the near future.
Still want Android though! I can play with more development oppurtunities then!

It's still unsure yet whether the HD2 will be upgraded to WinPhone7, as Microsoft's rep person said that it doesn't fulfill the "three buttons requirement." Yeah, don't ask me, but either way I wouldn't get the HD2 while hinging on the expectation that it'll get WP7.

I'm never gonna change back to WinMo... No way!!!!

Is nobody talking about the t-mobile hd2..more rom

So I need to know can are version of the phone some how unlock the extra rom like we did with the ram? Also why nobody is talking about how the t-mobile version will have 1gigrom not 512 can Xda geeks let me know Thanks Guys

Because it was talked abut ages ago when news first came out...

nucentury08 said:
So I need to know can are version of the phone some how unlock the extra rom like we did with the ram? Also why nobody is talking about how the t-mobile version will have 1gigrom not 512 can Xda geeks let me know Thanks Guys
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You can't unlock extra ROM because it doesn't exist, and no-one's talking about the TMO version with more ROM because it's old news and we're all talked out about it.

nucentury08 said:
So I need to know can are version of the phone some how unlock the extra rom like we did with the ram? Also why nobody is talking about how the t-mobile version will have 1gigrom not 512 can Xda geeks let me know Thanks Guys
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No one is talking about it because we know there is no extra rom to unlock. No one cares much about the T Mo version because it will only work on T Mo in the USA, so why would anyone else in the world care.

HD2 Fail no wp7 update
Dont matter anyways my hd2 is up for sale being now its a fact no Wp7 upgrade for HD2 Faill Back to my Nexus one...

nucentury08 said:
Dont matter anyways my hd2 is up for sale being now its a fact no Wp7 upgrade for HD2 Faill Back to my Nexus one...
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Cool, is the Nexus One getting the WP7s update then?

elyl said:
Cool, is the Nexus One getting the WP7s update then?
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HUH, thats just silly, ANYONE can see there aren't three buttons on the nexus.
*cough

nucentury08 said:
Dont matter anyways my hd2 is up for sale being now its a fact no Wp7 upgrade for HD2 Faill Back to my Nexus one...
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We should really have waited for the WP7 announcement before buying our HD2s... so that we could have all those perfectly working cheaper HD2s sold by these people that are disappointed with their thing not doing MORE than what they say on the box...

tbh i couldnt care less about WMP7 either. i am loving WM6.5 atm!

lol @ the trolls
Yeah, you go sell your HD2 because it won't have WM7 on it. Good luck not having a phone for the next 9 months, unless of course you're not actually waiting for WM7 and just talking rubbish.
chris_ah1 said:
tbh i couldnt care less about WMP7 either. i am loving WM6.5 atm!
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Totally agree mate, and especially since it's running on the best hardware currently available.

boo hoo no WM7 wahhh wahhh!!
Go play with your nexus, lil boy.

I am sure that there will be some cooked versions of WM7 for HD2 here on XDA.

mikiort said:
I am sure that there will be some cooked versions of WM7 for HD2 here on XDA.
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what does it matter when 90% of the HD2 owners have already sold their phone for the Nexus one by then.

I sold my HD2 to a dupe for £500 and got a nexus and ebay HD2 for the same.
Jks.
Why would i want 3.7" when 4.3" is bigger...albeit with fewer colours.
LOL.
my e-peen swelleth!!!
AND - to all those naysayers HD2+flexishield fits in the pockets of my 31" waist levi 506 jeans with minimal bulge. wooo wooo. I think nexus2 and iphone4G should be 4.3" too.

Claims of WP7 from Tom_Codon march 2010

Well were coming up to to the month milestone of when Tom dropped the news of having WP7 running on his HD2.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I am niave and a part of me still despite no real proof being given, is hoping.
It would be great if we got some news/proof at the end of this month.
Seg

da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho

please people, let it go....nobody was gonna get wp7 on the hd2 before the news and so there is no difference if it was all a lie...
that said, i do belive in it, reputable people have said its true. just enjoy the damn device and when wp7 comes, it will come, and i would like to see a thread with all the non belivers apologising

I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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chris5932 said:
Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
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I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg
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I do feel the same way, totaly
It's in a way like christmas when I was young besides.. you knew when it would be
// I btw don't think this is leading us anywhere..

But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.

domineus said:
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.

the_cool said:
But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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I think you have mis-interpreted my use of the the word "Expected" by this I meant "Hoped" or "Thought"
I do agree with you though, they don't owe us anything, and after the slagging off that some guys gave them, I would say F off to everyone.
Seg

ah ok, well yeh one can hope for it, thats all good! even i hope for it! well actually i dunno, when they said wp6 and wm6.5 isnt interchangeable made me decide not to go with wp7. but still, id love to see it! but even if they lied (which i keep stressing i dont think they are!), i wouldnt think less of them, none of us are really gettin affected and we have got alot from them anyway with wm6.5

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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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yeah I asked him last week in a podcast he visited on ppcgeeks...said a lot including a test rom for tg01 which also makes a lot of sense. I've said on htcpedia that I wouldn't be surprised the devices we see in the fall are very similar to devices released LAST year with minor improvements in hardware (if that)
If the htc touch hd2 and the g01 were the true test devices that wp7 was based on, then as a developer I'd just go hey why do I need to make a new device? Use the old internals and I have a wp7 device. I think for early devices that's what is going to happen but again that's just my speculation on htc and toshiba. Dell et al probably have devices built from the ground up...
I mean I want to try wp7 too and its looking better and more fluid every single day that gives me hope that microsoft has made a better "coded" os that when unlocked will actually be more open than the devices we have right now. To get to that point will take time, but that's what xda is for. I mean zune hd is hacked, I expect wp7 to be hacked too. just depends on time and devices
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hoping this conversation remains civil because so far no flames no claims of it was publicity and I said on htcpedia again why does a site like that need publicity it averages in US daytime 250 members per hour! late night 125! a site like that doesn't need real advertising.
We can't say its an april fool either that's come and gone. so the only other logical outcome is that it exists there are some issues (lo and behold tom said there were graphics issues)
so I am waiting enjoying wp 6.5

Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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chris5932 said:
I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
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I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
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I don't think your the only one who did so, myb hes still working down the list
Tom is the guy this is about.. no information from him or his team -> no information at all.. thats what is seems to be like
Since I don't know anyone to talk to him or one of his team members close, we can only wait and any disscusion is senseless.
Cheers

I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.

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I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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Im with you 100% on that statement. I feel like M$ is turning into Apple.

I don't understand why you are talking like this actually..
Sure, WP7 is locked down OS with many disadvantages, I agree with that!
BUT it brings lots of new features and its going to have full flash support etc.
it's not all bad.. basically this whole thing is not part of this discussion!
This is about WP7 on hd2 which was claimed to be real by tom.
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Apart from the HD2 WP7 exists/doesn't exist...
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I don't get why there isn't any news from tom_codon or any other people and why they aren't releasing it..
Sincerely, I'm not understanding why tom_codon gave the news of WP7 on HD2.
I mean... okay, WP7 HD2 ROM does exist, noone apart tom_codon and some other people has got it, but why are you saying to all that it does exist if you can't/don't want to release it?
It's not so mature and smart in a community where all is shared and that lives on the ROM sharing to say "I've got WP7! But you won't get it! Hah!!"........ am I wrong?

IS there a future for HD2 and WP7 ?

Will the Dark Forces Team continue development for our HD2's ?
Does anyone know if they are planning on continuing development, or does all this depend on Microsoft's updates ?

I am quite excited waiting to find out the answer.
I guess we won't know until we know unless someone has contacts within DFT?
I will continue to use WP7 even if the current version is the last for the HD2 as long as this version continues to let me buy apps from the market. Hoping that MS don't lock that aspect down.

Have Cotulla, others, and the members of the Dark Forces Team ever you let you down on past projects? Maybe that is one way of looking at the question of the OP.

I dont think there is a future.... I mean... 2012 is near and then the world will end, with or without WP7 on HD2..
Why do you ask this (stupid) question? is there a reason or info that nobody will develop anymore? Just wait or start developing yourself^^

I think things will really start to flow after Microsofts updated coming "soon". There will be no point of releasing another rom before that.

dertester123 said:
I dont think there is a future.... I mean... 2012 is near and then the world will end, with or without WP7 on HD2..
Why do you ask this (stupid) question? is there a reason or info that nobody will develop anymore? Just wait or start developing yourself^^
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Sorry forgot about the 2012 thing...
As for WP7, bit hooked to it really, actually thinking of changing my beloved HD2 for HD7, but this is such a drastic thing to do, all I wanted was just a glimmer of hope from DFT....

What do you need from DFT? Normal features should work (which are less than android only having better looks =/ )
Actually there are people working on a kitchen, MS will update and i think there will be some nice updates vom DFT in future.

January 22 I sent one of the members of DFT message.
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dertester123 said:
I dont think there is a future.... I mean... 2012 is near and then the world will end, with or without WP7 on HD2..
Why do you ask this (stupid) question? is there a reason or info that nobody will develop anymore? Just wait or start developing yourself^^
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Are you serious? There should be a law forbidding people like you to even your mouth. Save post like that for the idiot forums ok?

cwwjr1681 said:
Are you serious? There should be a law forbidding people like you to even your mouth. Save post like that for the idiot forums ok?
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Seriously? Your troll comment was much less useful than the OP.
Least they were asking a question which was a valid concern - which has drawn out a good response from ahmedsaid.

ahmedsaid said:
January 22 I sent one of the members of DFT message.
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That's all I needed to know, thank you
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

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January 22 I sent one of the members of DFT message.
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...lot of dots there...was part of the conversation snipped...or are you making things up...?

I cut out part of my conversation, which was negligible.

THUDUK said:
Sorry forgot about the 2012 thing...
As for WP7, bit hooked to it really, actually thinking of changing my beloved HD2 for HD7, but this is such a drastic thing to do, all I wanted was just a glimmer of hope from DFT....
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At this time i wouldn't recommend to change to a new phone, I first wanted to do it myself, but then I stopped to thinking on it. Here's why:
- The smartphones will soon get a huge step forward, there will be models with dual and even quadcores in it ^^
- There will be new batteries with up to 10000 mah but they dont use the normal battery slot to fit in the phone, they are quite smaller
- The display type will soon change to Amoled, so it gets slowly standarised
Normally when you purchase a phone, you want to take it for at least 2 years, so you would miss all that (ok the new battery will take a while until it comes out )