Hello, I have a HTC HD 2, and I need to change the Radio Frequency to work with 3G for my carrier. I am using Telcel in Mexico and the frequency for 3G is different than what came with the phone so all I can get is Edge with this phone. Telcel's frequency is compatible with AT&T as I have used my AT&T phones without any problem with Telcel 3G so there must be a difference somewhere. This is what iPhone shows is its frequency so I imagine that the same would work with this phone:
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated!!
Did you try any rom or Radio...
Maybe need to look something on setting...
loscabosav said:
Hello, I have a HTC HD 2, and I need to change the Radio Frequency to work with 3G for my carrier. I am using Telcel in Mexico and the frequency for 3G is different than what came with the phone so all I can get is Edge with this phone. Telcel's frequency is compatible with AT&T as I have used my AT&T phones without any problem with Telcel 3G so there must be a difference somewhere. This is what iPhone shows is its frequency so I imagine that the same would work with this phone:
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Is your HD2 the European or the US version?
Version HD2
I beleive it is a US version but I bought it used off a guy on ebay... Any way I can find out?
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We have gone into the settings and the settings are on Auto and we tried through the settings and advanced settings and the frequencies do not match what we need for Telcel so I am assuming some kind of modification can be done? Maybe it is in a hidden menu?
Not possible
loscabosav said:
We have gone into the settings and the settings are on Auto and we tried through the settings and advanced settings and the frequencies do not match what we need for Telcel so I am assuming some kind of modification can be done? Maybe it is in a hidden menu?
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Sorry pal, but Mexico, as most american countries, uses the 850/1900 3G UMTS bands...
The most common sold version of the HD2, the so called 'european', supports 900/2100 bands, so you won't ever make it work with your country 3G. IT IS NOT something that can be configured, or even flashing other Radios or ROMs, it won't change it.. it is hard-coded on the on board 3G chip.
Right now, if you really want HD2 with 3G in your country, your only choice is get the 'Telstra' version (T9193) from Australia (e.g. EBAY)... it supports the 850Mhz 3G band, so it should work on your country.
As i live in Argentina, i did the same, bought such version, and it works with my country 3G operators....
Really, don't even waste more time investigating this matter. you won't be able to do it.
Htc hd2
The only way than you can get 3G on Telcel networks its if you have the htc hd2 t9193 from AU..
loscabosav said:
We have gone into the settings and the settings are on Auto and we tried through the settings and advanced settings and the frequencies do not match what we need for Telcel so I am assuming some kind of modification can be done? Maybe it is in a hidden menu?
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Your HD2 must have been made for EU / Asia market: Model T8585 (UMTS 900/2100 Mhz)
The HD2 that's compatible with AT&T will be the only one from Australia carried by Telsta: Model T9193 (850/2100 Mhz)
How do you you know if this is Australia or EU/Asia verion - look at the back of the phone below the battery cover. If EU / Asia version, nothing would be showing but if it's Australia version you would see this "Next G network / T".
It's the design of hardware which can't be changed
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I beleive it is a US version but I bought it used off a guy on ebay... Any way I can find out?
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Remove the battery and see the model! it it is T8585 then forget about 3G! You will never make it work!
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Among those of you with a deap knowledge of the inner working of HTC phone for 3G networks.
Is HTC doing something to phones for each carrier to lock the phone to a specific carriers 3G network and no other.
I'm asking because I was talking with a freind of mine who was given a HD2 as a part of a promotion for use on AT&T 3G network (850/2100). He uses T-Mobile and tried to get it to work with his T-Mobile SIM with no success. He also told me he had a conversation with someone from HTC that told him that he would no beable to get his HD2 to work on T-Mobile because the hardware will not work with T-Mobiles 3G network (1700/2100).
If this is the case does anyone know if it changable, is it a Firmware issue that can be changed or is it like hard wired physically?
Then the question is if we are buying these phone, some through contracts others outright, do we want to told whos service we have to use!!
Lets have some good discussion...
there are billions of threads on this.
3g is radio/hardware dependent. he'll unfortunately be stuck on EDGE.
He will have no issues using the phone with T-mobile usa. He will not get 3G because of the bands. He will just have edge. But calls, mms, text, email, and internet will all function properly.
Clarify this please
I bought my HTC HD2 in USA (unlocked) and here in Peru, where I live, I cannot get it to work with 3G. If I lived in USA, is there a way to know with what carrier I would get 3G ?
alejo1575 said:
I bought my HTC HD2 in USA (unlocked) and here in Peru, where I live, I cannot get it to work with 3G. If I lived in USA, is there a way to know with what carrier I would get 3G ?
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So you are on Claro in Peru?
For 3G you need a phone with 3G 1900 support. If it is the T-Mobile version, that would have 3G on 1700/2100 bands which would be no good. If you got an AT&T handset (850/1900) it would work for 3G for you.
You need to understand what 3G support your version of the phone has. For example mine (Telstra Australia) is 850/2100 - which would not be able to pick up 3G in your network - however it works excellent with Telstra (850) in Australia and currently working well with StarHub (2100) in Singapore.
Your phone is quad band - but that is GSM quadband not 3G - it is 3G dual band and that is what is important for your connection.
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks for list of 3G networks...
Yeah ...bad news
tallmantim said:
So you are on Claro in Peru?
For 3G you need a phone with 3G 1900 support. If it is the T-Mobile version, that would have 3G on 1700/2100 bands which would be no good. If you got an AT&T handset (850/1900) it would work for 3G for you.
You need to understand what 3G support your version of the phone has. For example mine (Telstra Australia) is 850/2100 - which would not be able to pick up 3G in your network - however it works excellent with Telstra (850) in Australia and currently working well with StarHub (2100) in Singapore.
Your phone is quad band - but that is GSM quadband not 3G - it is 3G dual band and that is what is important for your connection.
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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks for list of 3G networks...
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Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
alejo1575 said:
Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
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No, but the Telstra HD2 will pick up the 850MHz signals where they exist. There is no HD2 with the 1900MHz UMTS band at the moment
lude219 said:
there are billions of threads on this.
3g is radio/hardware dependent. he'll unfortunately be stuck on EDGE.
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Would you mind pointing me in the direction of those BILLIONS of threads.
I've done searchs on hardware dependents, radio/hardware dependents, 3G radio.
There are so many way that is topic could be listed.
I'm finding nothing but my thread now just as before.
theisdept said:
a freind of mine who was given a HD2 as a part of a promotion for use on AT&T 3G network
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Then the question is if we are buying these phone, some through contracts others outright, do we want to told whos service we have to use!!
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Erm, so AT&T gives a phone, for promotion of their service, and at the same time they should allow you to use another network? You've got too much hope there...
alejo1575 said:
Hi tallmantim ....
Thanks for your response. Yeah, today I did my homework and found that my HD2 has UMTS (HSDPA) 900 - 2100 bands, a fact that is not good because Claro and Movistar in Peru operated the 850 - 1900 bands for 3G.
Question: is there a HD2 version with 850 - 1900 band ????
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yea my friend my phone is , and i am here with t mobile suffering from same problem like u , i bought that phone which is compatible with Asia , not here in usa
is there way to exchange??
mine is
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps upload and 7.2 Mbps download speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSPA availability, and data speed are
operator dependen)
egypro said:
is there way to exchange??
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exchange your phone for cash
exchange that cash for a phone that supports the correct bands.
Just thought I would wave a flag here regarding the Australian HD2 phone. Same as the European phone except it also has a 850mhz 3G band (Old CDMA) Network.
Not sure the best place to goto to ensure this is supported to some degree. Plan on trying to get another 6 months out of my HD2 by going android and this is quite significant.
Note. In main cities both 2100 and 850 are supported but outside those cities (Australia has a lot of this) only 850mhz is supported and basically you can't make a call with out this support.
Thanks. Amazing work on the progress to date. Well done.
This post is pointless as both AT&T and Rogers are on the 850mhz band also. Android will pick up all your avalible bands just like WinMo does. I myself, have the Telstra HD2 here in Canada on Rogers and all is working well with all of the test builds of android. The only thing I have to do is manualy input my APN settings so 3G/H (3G+) works.
I am not sure why you think 850mhz is from the days of CDMA... CDMA can use all the bands GSM can (850, 900, 1900, 2100) it is just up to whom ever decides which bands are approiate for your Country/Cell Carier. Over here in Canada, they had already authorized 850/1900 bands so they just continued to use them for GSM.
On a side note, with out propper bands for your network, you will only connect with Edge data only. This is why I chose the HD2 from Telstra and not T-Mobile US or any other Euro version. And like I said before everything works (3G/H & Calls).
which radio rom should i use to install android, or settings i should tweek.
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Android will pick up all your avalible bands just like WinMo does.
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MMMM With all the cooked roms unless I edit the base band in the registry on WinMo it will not pick up the 850 band. Telstra Hd2 On Telstra
Dangerously said:
I am not sure why you think 850mhz is from the days of CDMA... CDMA can use all the bands GSM can (850, 900, 1900, 2100) it is just up to whom ever decides which bands are approiate for your Country/Cell Carier.
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Because in Australia, Telstra shut down it's CDMA network and replaced it with the NextG network. The old CDMA network used 850Mhz and to save on costs they kept the 850mhz range for their NextG stuff and used their existing infrastructure.
Hey everyone i was just wondering if it's possible for me to get 3g working on my legend. It is an international legend and I am on rogers canada network. Any help whatsoever would be greatly appreciated.
I don't think it will work. The international version uses a different band (900/2100) I believe.
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I don't think it will work. The international version uses a different band (900/2100) I believe.
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Thanks for the reply... the back of the box says this:
Network - HSPA/WCDMA (900/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) Which is what i thought rogers was.
Rogers GSM network operates on the frequencies of 850/1900 MHz so your 3g should work. Are you running stock rom or a custom rom? Do you know if your phone is rooted? If it's rooted and or you are running a custom rom then make sure your are running the last radio for your device..
Rogers uses 850/1900 HSPA bands not 900/2100 HSPA bands.
You will only get EDGE data.
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Rogers uses 850/1900 HSPA bands not 900/2100 HSPA bands.
You will only get EDGE data.
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Hmm that's a shame... would you happen to know if it could be used on any other networks with 3g? like wind?
JMAC323GT said:
Hmm that's a shame... would you happen to know if it could be used on any other networks with 3g? like wind?
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WIND uses 1700 AWS frequency, no providers in Canada use those two frequencies (and god knows why NCIX and other stores are selling the European version to Canadians.) You should really read up on these things before buying a phone.
yeah thanks... i was never told it was an international phone.
Hi All
I have recently moved to Canada with my UK HTC HD2.
Since moving here I have changed my phone provider to Fido (Rogers Network). Internet seems extremely slow compared to my UK provider.
Someone told me that because I have a UK phone it is not using the correct bands for HSPA and that's why my internet access is so slow. Internet access is extremely fast on Wi-Fi so I know it's not a problem with the ROM etc.
Can anyone give me any ideas if this sounds correct - do I need to sell my UK HTC HD2 and purchase an American one to get over this problem?
Thanks
I think your friend is correct.
Rogers uses 850Mhz and 1900 Mhz, while in the
United Kingdom the bands used are 800Mhz and 1800Mhz (and some 2100Mhz),
Your UK HD2 is of European configuration, and should be able to cope with the Rogers frequencies. (See)
Your phone uses 900 - 2100 for 3G
Rogers provides it at 850 - 1900 , therefore your phone will slow down to GPRS speeds.
Have you tried flashing a new radio ROM?
If so, perhaps you should try another one.
At least in theory you could keep your phone and have mobile broadband.
What your friend is telling is true for dual band phones, however the HD2 is quad band..... Perhaps contact your provider (sometimes the dataplan has not been correctly activated, therefore access to mobile broadband is denied, and you will revert to the low GSM data band)
Otherwise contact HTC.
PS: Sorry for my ****-up
the t8585 (regular hd2) uses 900 and 2100 for 3g.
source
thats why canadian users with cash to splash go for the australian telstra model which uses 850/2100
You will only get GPRS and edge speeds, and no, the american wont get 3g either.
Yep....
I's official, I am cross-eyed, got the correct info, but wrong interpretation.
I stand corrected.
Thanks to both of you for the response .... I'm a little confused though!
So if I bought a T-Mobile USA model - that wouldn't give me 3G on the Rogers network I'm on? I have to buy an Australian Telstra model to get 3G?
Thanks!
*EDIT* ... Oh I think I get it now... I don't need to have the 850 and 1900 bands to use 3G on the Rogers network so long as I have one or the other - correct me if I am wrong please?
yea thats it, and the US hd2 has 1700/2100 which is why that one doesnt get 3g on rogers.
I get ya! Thanks for that.... so is Canada the only country that uses 1900? I'm asking because I now know that I can buy an Australian phone to suit the 850 but is there another country's phone apart from Canada that will use the 1900 band?
also I noticed something in my phone settings....there's an option to change my base band so I have selected 850/1900 GSM but it doesn't seem to have made a great deal of difference even after a reset
that's gsm, (calls, gprs and edge) nothing to do with the umts bands.
put umts bands into google, theres a Wikipedia page tells you what countries and networks use what bands.
hey fellas.
let me explain a bit.
i have a optus galaxy S, but i am with telstra.
as far as i know optus 3G is 900mhz ( or whatever it is, 900 something )
and telstra is 850, therefore telstra 3G wont work.
i put my mates optus card in my phone last night and it worked fine, 3G all the way.
is it somehow possible for me to get 3G on telstra? a diffrent baseband thing or something?
thanks fellas! really really hope someone can help me out here.
optus is 900/2100 and telstra is 850/2100
aussiesausage said:
optus is 900/2100 and telstra is 850/2100
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Your obviously near a 2100Mhz enabled tower, but, if you roam out of the 2100Mhz range (mainly capital cities and large regional cities) you'll only get a 2G signal on your phone with the Telstra SIM.
Your Optus phone is hardware set at 900/2100, you can not access the 850Mhz 3G band.
I don't think Optus had their own version of Galaxy S. It should be the international version.
GSMarena shows the specs as:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
Seems like there is no 3G for 850?
Telstra has their own I9000:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/phone_details.cfm?phone=galaxy s i9000t
Try this and see if it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893082
Edit: I highly doubt if it'll work, since I can't see any documentation of a stock SGS being able to do 850MHz and HSPA+ (which NextG runs on) at all. It seems, as in most cases, Telstra gets different phones that runs only on their network.
If you enter the correct Telstra apn details you should be able to get 3g 2100MHz coverage but you will not get NextG 850MHz coverage. It is harware/radio related and flashing a 850MHz firmare like that used by the I9000T or the I9000M will not change anything.
If you need Telstra's or any other Aus provider settings you can find them here: http://ausdroid.net/apns/
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
After further reading it seems sxi200 is correct, the radio on the normal I9000 doesn't have the required hardware to connect to the 850MHz band. Earlier I was thinking the phone would all have the same radio that covers all bands but has the 850MHz band locked out.
This might interest you, but when the time comes you probably would already have a new handset then.
http://www.telstrabusiness.com/busi...productsservices/3gnetworkannouncement.310001