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Quadrant doesn't run

Anyone else being unable to run Quadrant? I run Quadrant and it gets to the first graphics and after that the benchmark just cancels itself.
Yes, yes I know "benchmarks are useless". I still would like to be able to run it, though, and see what my $500+ phone can get

DarkAgent said:
Anyone else being unable to run Quadrant? I run Quadrant and it gets to the first graphics and after that the benchmark just cancels itself.
Yes, yes I know "benchmarks are useless". I still would like to be able to run it, though, and see what my $500+ phone can get
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Quadrant Standard will not run on mine either.

Ran fine for me.

I ran it again; this time it got past the first graphics. However, it didn't finish; it canceled itself after the world.
Similarly, the graphics on the test were weird, such as the world was all gray instead of what it should be.

i got quadrant advance to run once after install but after that wouldn't work

I am using Quadrant Standard, just ran it a second time and it made it through again. I did notice that on some of the graphics tests the details are missing. For example, the planets are just grey orbs. Anyway, scored 1800 that time around.

same here
I did a restart once and was able to get through the full benchmark once, but the graphics were missing all details.
Otherwise, it usually stalls at database writing, then quits during the graphics section.

As the apps author notes in the description box of his app, the Nexus S is not yet supported as he needs to update his app to work better with Gingerbread.
Also answered this was answered in the stickied FAQ.
unremarked said:
Q: Linpack/Quadrant Scores?
Linpack doesn't play very nicely with the Galaxy S lineup generating very low numbers in comparison to HTC devices. This is because the processors that are powering these devices operate in different ways. Does this mean the Nexus S processors are slower? Not really, just different. As for Quadrant, it doesn't currently work very well with Gingerbread and needs to be updated. The scores folks have been seeing though put it in the 1600 range without a modified kernel.
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GLBenchmark Results!

I've tried to overclock, lagfix, change roms and kernels, but I didn't see any big difference.
I would like to stay with real FPS benchmarks like GLBenchmark or others not like quadrant.
I've seen many people using ext2 instead of ext4, other say rfs is better, so I'm getting very confused. And also many people around here.
Each one of us has got a personalized SGS. Let's run each one of us GLBenchmark OpenGl 2.0 test without FSAA (The one of egypt) and see the results of each one of us.
Dlownload glbenchmark here: http://www.glbenchmark.com/download.jsp
Please specify model, rom, kernel, launcher, running apps, free mem before doing the test... Like every bit of info you can give, so we could find the best settings!
Thanks to all ! I'll run the test and post in few minutes!

Ok, here is the template 1.0 to use ;P just copy and paste and modify!
OK, got:
2438 Frames (21.6 Fps) with no fsaa.
My settings:
MODEL: European, I9000 SGS 16gb Vodafone
SPEED (GHZ): 1.0
LAUNCHER: Go Launcher
KERNEL: Lastest speed mod.
ROM: Darky's 8.0
LAGFIXES: On, System converted, on fast mount.
PROGRAMS INSTALLED: Very few, just wiped it.
FREE RAM: I forgot!
OTHER INFO: Wifi on, and overclock @ 1.2 makes worse FPS.

Lagfix will have no effect on glbench
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Bench marks do not say how responsive or laggy the phone is and unless you are obsessive with numbers are a waste of time .
jje

yes, but games performance is equal to FPS, so more FPS=More optimized system.
Just because that reason i proposed to use glbenchmark, as it is an only graphical test.

Gingerbread slower on 3d gaming

is there a way how to speed up the gingerbread on 3d gaming like on froyo?
in froyo my NFS Shift is like 55 - 60 fps but in gingerbread its just around 30 - 40 fps..
same on Quadrant in 3d rendering the red and blue dna like rolling figure is 49 - 50 fps in FROYO but in gingerbread it wont pass 30 fps
any tweaks on how to boost 3d rendering speed?

First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?

honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps

cdesai said:
First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?
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Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.

Karry025 said:
honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps
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codewisp said:
Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.
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LOL i'm also one of them, and this was one of the reasons HC needed froyo bootloader!

actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?

Karry025 said:
actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?
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GB is faster than froyo, it would more, but Samsung rushed out the update, and that ruined it partially.
UV is kernel issue, try with some other kernel first, and -350mv is insane!
3k in quadrant is nothing, its just a score, can be fooled, mostly its fooled in I/O part

-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?

Karry025 said:
-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?
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Honestly, no
I got my tab from my dad sometime back, and i had already updated to gb via *cough* kies *cough*, so didnt get a chance to try it out more.

i hope someone can port the UI speed of Gingerbread to the Froyo XD

Please adopt a little common sense when creating new threads.
Unless you have developed something, ROM/MOD/etc.. then the Development section is off limits for threads. Post it in General or Q&A.
You do not want to anger the XDA God of Tidiness

why do you have a common sense to spare? lol just kiddin

New Quadrant -> Support For Multiple Cores And ICS

A call for all the benchmark whores, this is your time to shine. Your e-peen will grow like no other. You can post your new quadrant scores, without anyone telling you that it's outdated!
Article link
Market link
AndroidPolice said:
When it comes to benchmarks, one name usually stands above all others: Quadrant. Even though it has been proven to be easily faked, there's just something about running it and see a 3000+ score show up at the end to make you feel your device is untouchable.
Despite its popularity, Quadrant has been missing one key feature: multi-core support. That all changes with an update that was pushed to the Market earlier today, which brings Quadrant up to version 2.0, though. Not only does Quadrant now support multiple-core chips, but the update also brings ICS support, GUI improvements, support for Polish, and a fix for slow frame rates on PowerVR SGX 540 GPUs.
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If it would matter, mine would be 3547.
It also occurred to me, that I might have not posted in the correct subforum. If so, I kindly ask Scotty to beam me up and back down a bit to the left.
And in the meantime it also occurred to me, that someone else had posted a similar thread already. I can only blame the forums for not giving me relevant search results.

It's still crap, because it doesn't display per-test scoring so you can know WHAT changed a score.
For example, disabling per-file sync in the filesystem code gains you a few hundred points in Quadrant - in AnTuTu it's clear that this improvement is in database write tests. (It also doesn't skew the scores nearly as much. Quadrant's weighting sucks.)

With ICS 'LPB' i got 3914.

I got 4004 on i9100 with ICS XXLPB
However...
Quadrant reports that my device has only one core, which is quite an important mistake, and some of the graphics tests keep hitting the 60fps ceiling, which ruins the integrity of the test, assuming it is based on measuring the maximum possible framerate.

hedgepigdaniel said:
I got 4004 on i9100 with ICS XXLPB
However...
Quadrant reports that my device has only one core, which is quite an important mistake, and some of the graphics tests keep hitting the 60fps ceiling, which ruins the integrity of the test, assuming it is based on measuring the maximum possible framerate.
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The s2 framerate is capped at 60 fps because of vsync, it can't be changed..
And Quadrant results are more accurate on quallcomm device.. Other than that results may vary and could even be manipulated, CMIIW
I suggest you to run nenamark2 benchmark instead.. It's free on the market and gives a comparable results too..
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Guys, is the planet part of the test scores only about 38+ fps?
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3875 on XLB remix 9.2

Using omega's ics rom...
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Gorjess said:
The s2 framerate is capped at 60 fps because of vsync, it can't be changed..
And Quadrant results are more accurate on quallcomm device.. Other than that results may vary and could even be manipulated, CMIIW
I suggest you to run nenamark2 benchmark instead.. It's free on the market and gives a comparable results too..
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The 60fps limit can't be changed, but quadrants graphics test can be made more challenging so that the limiting factor is power rather than the arbitrary fps limit. It's not an accurate test if its hitting the 60fps ceiling.

ephraim033 said:
Guys, is the planet part of the test scores only about 38+ fps?
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mine stuck @ 45 fps for the same test, are you in ICS rom?
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between got 4285 in LPB

4346 here and planet test is at 38 fps.
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3510 on CM9 latest

bala_gamer said:
mine stuck @ 45 fps for the same test, are you in ICS rom?
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between got 4285 in LPB
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Nope, i'm using Hyperdroid ROM
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Hmm... it seems to me that CM9 gets lower scores than other ICS ROMs. That, I think, can be explained by the lack of full kernel support. Let's hope for the better, when they will get their hands on the kernel sources.

Please don't discuss Quadrant scores in this forum. Search "quadrant" in GSII General for the 7 or 8 threads we've closed for the reasons why.
Thanks

Jelly bean vs gingerbread gaming and performance

Hi everyone I am currently running the NXT LE rom v1.3. I have tried various other roms but I find that this is the best one so far. Can you guys compare various roms and see which is better for gaming and performance, Jelly Bean (with new adreno drivers) or Gingerbread. Thanks
Every one list:
Kernel
Rom
Take Antutu Benchmark of your rom

from my experience, gingerbread is still the best android version for the xperia play
NXT LE with gin2jb theme,
Latest doomlord gb kernel
At 1017 Mhz
Score: 4288

Thinks too that a modified gingerbread is still the best choice for my Play. I saw that some guys got a bit higher Benchmark score on JellyBean but that doesn't mean that it is better for gaming. I really wish that more devs would pay more attention to GB.
Doomkernel v.14
DiXperia2
Antutu B. 6161 @ 1.8 Ghz.

Um........good point. But people are saying that with the new Adreno drivers that ICS and JB for gaming are better than GB. I only use my xperia play for gaming, so I have been looking for a rom designed for gaming, so far the best is NXT Light in my opinion. If anyone finds other please post

SICKNOSIS said:
Um........good point. But people are saying that with the new Adreno drivers that ICS and JB for gaming are better than GB. I only use my xperia play for gaming, so I have been looking for a rom designed for gaming, so far the best is NXT Light in my opinion. If anyone finds other please post
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I already tried some ics/jb roms but the performance wasnt that what i was looking for, id stick with gb
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Come now, let's not keep talking about 'I think that, I think this'.
Let's start showing from numbers from Nenamark 2, since it's purely gaming you guys want. When you're done, just delete/wtv.
Let us start with a few ground rules:
1.0GHz Performance governer ONLY.
I/O schedule = whatever since it shouldn't matter much.
State whether you're using GB/JB.
Here's mine.
[JB]
1st run : 30.7 fps
2nd run : 31.4 fps
3rd run : 31.4 fps
4th run : 31.8 fps
5th run : 31.5 fps
ROM: SlimBean by cj360
Antutu
--1Ghz
Total : 5005
2D : 522
3D : 1950
--1.8Ghz (to align with above post clock)
Total : 6330
2D : 538
3D : 1959

I have a locked bootloader so no fancy kernels or overclocking, but I'm sure it could serve as a base to compare performance.
Nenamark 2 [GB]
First run: 14.0 fps
Second run: 13.6 fps
Third run: 14.0 fps
Fourth run: 14.2 fps
Fifth run: 14.1 fps
ROM: Xperia NXT Light Edition by Kris Dee v.1.3

Newest Adreno drivers for ICS/JB makes a huge difference albeit the RAM consumption is higher.

jcarbox said:
Newest Adreno drivers for ICS/JB makes a huge difference albeit the RAM consumption is higher.
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It was actually reported lower many times.

sewer56lol said:
It was actually reported lower many times.
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Comparation nenamark2 score between default and update adreno driver on xperia neo l ics rom on my play, on default driver about 26 fps but on update driver about 31 fps.
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Kernel: DooMKerneL
Unlocked Bootloader
Running at 1ghz on performance governor
Running Supercharger script too
Here's mine.
[GB]
1st run : 13.2 fps
2nd run : 13.4 fps
3rd run : 13.0 fps
4th run : 13.3 fps
5th run : 13.2 fps
ROM: Xperia NXT Light Edition by Kris Dee v.1.3

jabberwocky_one said:
Come now, let's not keep talking about 'I think that, I think this'.
Let's start showing from numbers from Nenamark 2, since it's purely gaming you guys want. When you're done, just delete/wtv.
Let us start with a few ground rules:
1.0GHz Performance governer ONLY.
I/O schedule = whatever since it shouldn't matter much.
State whether you're using GB/JB.
Here's mine.
[JB]
1st run : 30.7 fps
2nd run : 31.4 fps
3rd run : 31.4 fps
4th run : 31.8 fps
5th run : 31.5 fps
ROM: SlimBean by cj360
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WOW!!!! Your scores are much higher than mine and "aitmanga"'s scores. So I guess JB is much better for gaming, right?

Now I'm quite skeptical about that methodology. x2 more fps? I don't think so.
Anyone have any other idea on test methods? Antutu and quadrant scores aren't really useful unless you state the graphics score breakdown.
Edit: updated previous post with antutu for what it's worth.

I installed the SlimBean rom and tried Gta 3, it is no where as smooth as the nxt light rom ive been using, but the benchmark is like 29!!! Which is more than double my score on nxt light, but in real life performance JB is not as good as GB!! Even though the benchmarks show that it is
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Well, some games are bottlenecked by the GPU and others by the CPU. There's no general rule like 'if one game doubles its framerate, every game should be the same' so GTA3 can be CPU limited.
Probably Nenamark is very GPU intensive and a optimized GPU driver can do wonders but each game has its own CPU-GPU balance.

jabberwocky_one said:
Come now, let's not keep talking about 'I think that, I think this'.
Let's start showing from numbers from Nenamark 2, since it's purely gaming you guys want. When you're done, just delete/wtv.
Let us start with a few ground rules:
1.0GHz Performance governer ONLY.
I/O schedule = whatever since it shouldn't matter much.
State whether you're using GB/JB.
Here's mine.
[JB]
1st run : 30.7 fps
2nd run : 31.4 fps
3rd run : 31.4 fps
4th run : 31.8 fps
5th run : 31.5 fps
ROM: SlimBean by cj360
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Lol, scores are almost same as on my setup.
Kernel is turbo jb from cosmicdan
Rom - pac from wedgess
1ghz performance
31.4 fps
1,6 performance
33,4 fps
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ROM : NXT 1.3 LE
Kernel : Doomkernel v14
Antutu benchmark : [email protected],2ghz
Not too bad..
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4.0.2.A.0.58 Enhanced V2
Kernel : Doomkernel v14
Antutu v3.0.3 benchmark : [email protected] performance (normally set [email protected] ondemand)
not too bad even playing zombiewood smoothly, as long as you got enough free ram & set VM Heap size to 96m-128m

Devastator004
SICKNOSIS said:
Um........good point. But people are saying that with the new Adreno drivers that ICS and JB for gaming are better than GB. I only use my xperia play for gaming, so I have been looking for a rom designed for gaming, so far the best is NXT Light in my opinion. If anyone finds other please post
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I would have agreed wih u and up unill i came across jb slim I thought that nxt light was the best jb slim bean it the only rom which is really come near to perfection the only downfall is that u cannot record but u can use the camera to take pictures via app from play store for free. and all the other features work to perfection u can overclock to 1.6ghz to play certain games which are too slow to play 4 exmple modern combact 4. also u can download games from google play store for free which arent even supose to be working on xperia play like shadow gun dead zone and all this is not even he best part when u flash it normally u get atleast 550mb internall free well thats becasue how small the actual rom it self is also this is the least laggyiest rom plus if u like to listen to music then it has apollo music player bonus points so despite the loss of the recording feature it overall makes up in compare to every other feature. :good: if u are inerested i personally tested it on xperia play r800i alos thishas been tested on r800x the link to this is if u are intersed that is :laugh::fingers-crossed::highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35493383

for gaming i recomend - Jellyzeus (JB) or CM9.1 (ICS) - both can run GTA VC really smoth on low settings (25%distance / 50%textures, all other low or off) ...
if you buy xperia play for hard gaming, i recomend - NXT Light Ed. - its best...
but if you play games like wheres my water / angry birds, and want JB, its a good choice...