Black vs. Silver cover size - XPERIA X1 General

Hi folks,
because of the cracking-problem i ordered a spare-housing on ebay. My X1 is silver, the spare-housing is black. So i now have a silver and a black battery cover.
Following the threads around the cracks, most people think, that the cover is causing this somehow. It also seems to me, that the silver one cracks more often than black. So i tried the black cover on my silver X1. Looks quite nice, by the way But i noticed, that it fits much easier than my original silver cover.
A quick measure showed: The black one is a little bit wider. It is easier to put on and to take off. The silver one is 50.3mm and the black is 51.0mm. Look at the pics to see what i measured.
Now i am interested, if this is only with my cover. So please do check your cover-width and post the result. At the moment i am using my X1 without the battery-cover (it's in a case) to see wheter it is cracking again or not.
Thanks!

I think one of the reasons the cracks appear is due to temperature change of the metal surrounding the phone. Have had 2 black one's and both have had cracks in the metal and plastic.

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MDA 4 - black and/or silver finish ?

there are virtually only two colour versions available, ok ... but I heard rumours that black is plastic and silver is aluminium
in my perception alu is to be more durable to scratches etc
can anyone confirm this plastic vs aluminium difference regarding colours offered, for me that seems to be an important buying factor ;-)
thanks in advance
andy
My MDA's has aluminium inserts on the top
Yeah it's all silver, with the only metal being the insert on the other side of the screen.
well, does it mean they both are made of plastic ?
i.e. clamshell etc .... at least at this point that's the only conclusion I can draw from a/m answers of yours
regards
andy
Well the silver MDA Pro is most defiantely 90% plastic. I do not know of any black version but if there is then it wont be available until after xmas - just to boost sales.

Condition of Black One, scratch, chip, crack, etc

I would like to start a topic dedicated to black HTC One, since there is still not many people got the black One, and hope this topic could help others see how durable/not durable the casing is, especially over time.
We all know that both silver and black One have the same aluminum casing, anodized, difference is the colour. So silver version naturally hides the scratches but black version will show clearly the scratches.
Hope all the black One owner would come and share the condition of their phone, if it is still no scratch at all, or already developed some annoying marks.
I will start from me, I had the black One for 1.5 days, still naked no case, there is one small scratch at the bottom speaker area, very thin line so must be due to sand; top edge near headphone jack has little scratch or chip, not sure what it is, but silver colour so noticeable; the top plastic strap at the back above camera had developed a crack since got the phone.
All of them are very small so not able to show on picture, will definitely post picture if things get worse.
I will try to report back often, but hope this post won't grow too big so it would mean actually the black One is holding up pretty well.
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[Update: 24/04/2013, 5 days after I had the phone, I always baby the phone.]
I got two tiny scratches, picture included, see post 12.
Sadly, EXACTLY why I didnt get black. I saw MANY videos on Youtube and alot of them had scratches around that shiny bezel and along the edges. They weren't even highlighting the scratches, I just noticed them. Man, it looks beautiful, but unfortunately shows many of the scratches that the silver doesn't. I remember the iPhone 5 went through the same thing.
Really sucks that people cant show off the beautiful phone without a case. I have a thin leather case on mine, and REALLY wish I could go "naked" but know better. (been there, done that!). At least I love the looks on the leather.
Oh, that's really sad and worrying, I have seen colleague's black iPhone 5 which only had two tiny marks at the edge, so I thought One would be similar. I accept the danger of having the black, but really want to see in a normal careful usage, will it be scratched badly still?
Tomorrow Monday is a good day, I can put my phone in the bad world to see how it survives or not... Until tomorrow!
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Just a caveat to my prev. post. ALL aluminum (encased) phones, ESPECIALLY if they are anodized to a color, will have the same issues.
woodekx said:
Just a caveat to my prev. post. ALL aluminum (encased) phones, ESPECIALLY if they are anodized to a color, will have the same issues.
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Yes I totally agree with you, however I want to see how the black One stands daily usage and if it gets scratches very easily.
I have the black One, at least in the next few days I will report back.
Just hope this could help other people make sensible decision on what colour to choose.
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h.han said:
Yes I totally agree with you, however I want to see how the black One stands daily usage and if it gets scratches very easily.
I have the black One, at least in the next few days I will report back.
Just hope this could help other people make sensible decision on what colour to choose.
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I really don't think the real problem is as much the anodizing, is as it is with the routed beveled edges. As beautiful as they are, those sharp edges seem to be very venerable to chips/ dings. Iphone 5s had the same issues. Hey, I love em! The really give the phone a "rich" look.
I can't even get a black one. That's what I'm waiting on. Only available in silver here.
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I think the shiny part on the edges aren't anodized and is just plain paint. I haven't seen any anodized metal that's shiny my whole life lol! It should be matte texture so that maybe the reason why it's chipping. Unlike the silver though the edges are exposed plain aluminum it doesn't have any paint nor anodized layer so it won't chip.
I also wanted the black HTC One and said to myself I'll just apply a transparent nail polish on the edges but I got fed up waiting so got the silver instead and waiting for it to arrive till now.
Good luck guys! For me given the chance right now if I could choose I would still select the black over the silver.
All I could suggest is...
1. You could coat the edges with transparent films to avoid the scratches or
2. You could scrape the black color on the edges and give it a shiny silver bezel instead like the silver one. That would make it look more premium if you ask me...
Imagine it... Pure black matte body with shiny silver edges
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I think the shiny part on the edges aren't anodized and is just plain paint. I haven't seen any anodized metal that's shiny my whole life lol! It should be matte texture so that maybe the reason why it's chipping. Unlike the silver though the edges are exposed plain aluminum it doesn't have any paint nor anodized layer so it won't chip.
I also wanted the black HTC One and said to myself I'll just apply a transparent nail polish on the edges but I got fed up waiting so got the silver instead and waiting for it to arrive till now.
Good luck guys! For me given the chance right now if I could choose I would still select the black over the silver.
All I could suggest is...
1. You could coat the edges with transparent films to avoid the scratches or
2. You could scrape the black color on the edges and give it a shiny silver bezel instead like the silver one. That would make it look more premium if you ask me...
Imagine it... Pure black matte body with shiny silver edges
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I am not so sure about black phone with shiny silver bezel but won't mind see one in real life (not mine though)
Just update on the condition of my black One, it's been more than 3 days since I got it, naked all the time, no new scratches or chip apart from two which appeared on day 1.
Yes I did baby my phone, not like avoid using it, just not putting other stuff in the same pocket, trying not to drop it, not touching the metal button near my pocket when putting phone in, laying it on a clean surface, etc. All commonsense.
But yes, the shiny bezel may give up first another reason being the edge of the bezel is so sharp, touching it over time may just remove the colour of the coating and show a silver line. But so far it's holding up well.
Comparing to the back, the up and bottom speaker pieces seem more easily scratched, the surface of them seem more rough than the back aluminum which means sand or other hard material will cause more obvious damage to them.
Hope other people who had the black One longer than I did can share what the condition of their phones are at.
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Mmmm but where are the pics??
vegetaleb said:
Mmmm but where are the pics??
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I only have two very tiny scratches they are too small to be captured on camera, apart from those two, my phone is in new condition.
Hence no picture sorry.
I would like this thread to gather conditions of as many black One as possible to give a real life example of what to expect if anyone wants to get a black One. Or if you don't have the black One, anticipation of what could get scratched/chipped easily is also welcome.
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Ok, on the way home on the train, just saw a light mark dot on the edge of top frame above the front camera. Did not do anything special to my phone, was browsing web...
Will update a picture later when a reach a camera.
It's very small but big enough to be noticed.
[UPDATE] picture uploaded
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Hi again guys! I am gathering info with regards to the chipping info of these phones... I just wanna ask... Where does the scratches/chipping happen?
Is it on the unibody aluminum part of the phone or within the speaker grills? I'm not sure yet but I'm thinking maybe the speaker grills aren't anodized.
Riyal said:
Hi again guys! I am gathering info with regards to the chipping info of these phones... I just wanna ask... Where does the scratches/chipping happen?
Is it on the unibody aluminum part of the phone or within the speaker grills? I'm not sure yet but I'm thinking maybe the speaker grills aren't anodized.
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I am not sure my ones are chippings or just simple scratches, more likely scratches. In my mind, chippings are marks that appeared without phone being hit by a harder object.
I would imagine the speaker parts are easier to get scrached than the back, but I tried using my keys to scratch them (mid force), it only left some trace which were wiped away, so it seems they are quite tough as well.
The only noticable scratches are on the top shiny edge above the front camera, no idea why it happened. They are very small but if you look carefully, they are there.
im thinking to get a black one, then pair it with a dual layer case like the incipio dualpro.
silicone inside, pvc hardcase layer outside
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im thinking to get a black one, then pair it with a dual layer case like the incipio dualpro.
silicone inside, pvc hardcase layer outside
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Yes, I actually ordered a disztronic black case shipping from US (I am in UK), although I really prefer keeping the phone naked.
But yes, all aluminum phones will get scratched just a matter of time, so having a case is necessary to standby.
So far I am quite happy about the condition of my black One, although I only had it for 5 days, but at least it seems it won't chip automatically like the HTC One S (black) did. Of course, they have different material.

Aluminum frame?

Is the frame anodized aluminum? and does it peel?
I'm thinking about buying the black SP and changing the frame with the frame from the white model which I assume is pure aluminum? unless they coated it white
So:
1. The frame is just coated aluminum but it doesn't peel, coating holds very well.
2. If you want to change the frame, you must also change the screen (glass), they're connected (glued?) together
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Kendosis said:
Is the frame anodized aluminum? and does it peel?
I'm thinking about buying the black SP and changing the frame with the frame from the white model which I assume is pure aluminum? unless they coated it white
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i think its not aluminum, umm i use it without any protection and here are some pics of the frame and the screen
[They are in the 7zip file , cuz they were too big and above the upload limit as a jpg file]
It is aluminum, but not anodized. The paint pells off after several months (5-6 months), like in my unit. I used to have a white model and the aluminum was painted too, just like my current black model. However, now that the paint is peeling off, I can confirm that below the painting, the aluminum is still black, but I guess it's just ugly black.
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It is aluminum, but not anodized. The paint fells off after several months (5-6 months), like in my unit. I used to have a white model and the aluminum was painted too, just like my current black model. However, now that the paint is peeling off, I can confirm that below the painting, the aluminum is still black, but I guess it's just ugly black.
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Good to know, maybe I'll buy a 2nd frame and just remove all the paint.
I don't know how great would that go. I personally wouldn't remove it, as we don't know how great the aluminum by itself could stand. Not to mention that removing the paint could damage the aluminum too.
However, the idea of having a black model with white aluminum sounds pretty awesome to me. I wanted to do something like that before. Maybe I'll do so in the future. Anyhow, good luck. Make sure to post results.

Losing silverness on the edge

Hello, even Samsung exchanged a new screen for me due to defective screen, within a few days I started seeing small dots in the edges between the glass screen and the silver edge. Is it due to some kind of oxidation or friction when I put the device in a bag? How to prevent such discoloration?
Can you post a screen shot?
Probably the same issues that plagues the bezel on the Note 3, as well as the S6's silver bezel around the camera. The silver colour is painted on, and it wears off fairly quickly, revealing the white plastic beneath.
What I always do is a solution us women have been using to keep our fake-silver rings looking silver for decades: blank nail polish. Simply apply a thin layer of blank nail polish on top of the bezel and it will erode much, much less. It acts as a protective layer.
To fix existing blemishes, you can use silver nail polish and a very, very thin brush.
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Probably the same issues that plagues the bezel on the Note 3, as well as the S6's silver bezel around the camera. The silver colour is painted on, and it wears off fairly quickly, revealing the white plastic beneath.
What I always do is a solution us women have been using to keep our fake-silver rings looking silver for decades: blank nail polish. Simply apply a thin layer of blank nail polish on top of the bezel and it will erode much, much less. It acts as a protective layer.
To fix existing blemishes, you can use silver nail polish and a very, very thin brush.
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Thanks. For the silver nail polish, is there a specific brand/model number or anything like that will do? If I want a pink bezel, I just get a pink nail polish?
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Thanks. For the silver nail polish, is there a specific brand/model number or anything like that will do? If I want a pink bezel, I just get a pink nail polish?
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Make sure it's a long-lasting one. Personally I always use L'oreal, but if that's not available in the right colour, Max Factor or Rimmel will do as well.
Yep, if you use pink, it'll turn pink. It's a coating, so you can use any you want. So if you don't like the silver and would prefer black, you get a black one. (those are available in gloss and matte)
We also do this to paint back covers, suitcases, keys, cables (to colourcode them), blemishes on shoes... I've used nail polish on pretty much everything.. except my nails! :laugh:
The advantage of using Nail polish over dye is that you can simply wipe it off with acetone and a cotton swab if you don't like how it looks. (acetone is nail polish remover. You can usually find it within 3 meters of the nail polish stand in a pharmacy.)
Just to make sure that we are talking about the same issue, I am enclosing two photos.
It's funny what we OCD on . . I'm looking at that and thinking you're crazy but at the same time when I approach my car from the passenger side every day the first thing I look at is the ding in the door that my son put into it a year ago . . So while I personally wouldn't fret over this issue on my own tablet since I get full enjoyment out of it daily I feel your pain when you say it's an issue for you.

Quality problems with the plastic part between screen and chamfered edges

Hi,
I have my 6P now for two weeks, and for the looks I'm rocking it only with a screen protector and a white carbon dbrand skin.
So I am pretty careful with the phone.
The problem is that the phone already shows signs of wear, to be more specific:
It already has notches in the plastic between the screen and the camfered edges.
The plastic seems to be very soft. The only possible scenario where I can imagine to picked up the notches is while having it in a car holder(also made out of plastic).
Does anybody else has the same problem?
Can you post a picture of this issue?
wish i could help but like above pics would help as don't know what it could be. Been naked and then to dbrands and have no issues
I can confirm these issues. I'm on my 4th RMA because of this issue. My first device has a chip on the plastic piece by the power button, second device had what looked to be the mate finish wore off and a dead pixel on the display, the third device had the same thing and a strong pink hue on the bottom of the display, and now I'm waiting on my 4th RMA. By the way if this one is messed up I'm going to stick it out with my first device because the display on this device is perfect! You can also see a big difference in the display from the RMA units. The panel looks black when off like my GS6 but the RMA's I've had looked dark grey when off and not black. The plastic piece that sits between the display and metal seems to be an issue Google is tracking so hopefully it gets fixed. I have a white 64gb 6P if that helps. I did have pics of all the issues because I had to send them to Google for proof but I erased them. Sorry
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brent4atchley said:
Hi,
I have my 6P now for two weeks, and for the looks I'm rocking it only with a screen protector and a white carbon dbrand skin.
So I am pretty careful with the phone.
The problem is that the phone already shows signs of wear, to be more specific:
It already has notches in the plastic between the screen and the camfered edges.
The plastic seems to be very soft. The only possible scenario where I can imagine to picked up the notches is while having it in a car holder(also made out of plastic).
Does anybody else has the same problem?
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I have this issue with mine. That plastic strip that goes around the screen got rip or broke in my Nexus 6P is flimsy and is coming off. I had my phone from launch week 1. Does warranty cover this? Is some minimum but for my OCD this issue is killing me.
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The plastic part on my phone came from Google with dents and scuffs in it.
I have this issue also.
The plastic is quite fragile. My damage was caused by the Google nexus 6P case...
Have pics but cant post em because first post.
The black rubber like piece between the glass and case is coming off on my Nexus 6P. I've had the phone in the Genuine Official Nexus 6P Leather Folio Case Flip Cover since almost day one, so I'm a bit surprised after about 2years of use Build Number N2G470.
My answer was simple to this. Wanted a black and silver nexus 6p and when I removed the back to change it I noticed how flimsy the plastic was and was dented and cracked in places. So I took a razor blade when the phone was back together and removed the plastic all from around the edges and it now looks slot better. I did try and buy a mid frame before doing this as my LCD was perfect. But couldn't find one. Much better look now and the phone now looks brand new again and my ocd is at bay. Lol.
Plastic Filler
DANIELWHITT said:
My answer was simple to this. Wanted a black and silver nexus 6p and when I removed the back to change it I noticed how flimsy the plastic was and was dented and cracked in places. So I took a razor blade when the phone was back together and removed the plastic all from around the edges and it now looks slot better. I did try and buy a mid frame before doing this as my LCD was perfect. But couldn't find one. Much better look now and the phone now looks brand new again and my ocd is at bay. Lol.
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Doesn't that plastic filler strip (between glass and aluminum chassis) act as a retaining ring to hold in the glass? I have not taken my phone apart, but that thin black plastic piece has broken in several places (with sections missing). I assumed it acts like a snap ring in the groove to retain the glass screen. Am I wrong? Is it just a for aesthetic purposes?
Does anyone know if Google recognizes this as a defect and fixes it for free? Or.... can I remove the remaining pieces and use the phone without it?
It doesn't hold the screen in. It's designed to act as a buffer between the glass and the frame to help stop the glass crack or smash if you drop it. It's actually part of the mid frame attached to the glass. Mine did what yours did, hence when I put the new housing on, I trimmed it down with a razor blade level with the rear housing and it made it look so much better, while still doing good the job of helping stop the glass from cracking when dropped. To be honest, once a case was on the phone you couldn't tell anyway, also Google doesn't see it as a defect, just part of wear and tear. I tried a defect claim and they said no as it was damage I had caused, even though mine happened from taking it in and out of my spigen case on a few occasions. Hope that helps.
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Also, you need to slide a slim pry tool between that plastic and the metal frame to remove the back. It's not in a ridge its part of the midframe of the phone.

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