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ROM 4.0.0.21 Thoughts

I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?

seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal

FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)

It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.

I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.

GregP74 said:
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore

Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH

ID64 said:
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?

Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm

Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen

GregP74 said:
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!

cgigate said:
I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal

The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack

strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh

ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.

great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
?
I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?

You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.

Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.

Wizard hangs at boot after spb backup

Hi, for some strange reason my wizard hangs at the boot screen some times after reseting after running spb backup. I have set spb to to a backup at 4am every alternate day so when i wake up in the morning i know my data is all backed up. It has worked fine for a while now but for some reason it just stays at the windows boot screen and when i wake up in the morning the battery is low It also happens sometimes when i regularly soft reset, and i found once the backlight turns off during reboot and i dont press a button to bring the backlight on it seems to hang then. Otherwise its fine. Its really quite frustrating because i use my wizard as an alarm clock and i was late to school today because it didn't go off because of this problem. Ive got oamp clock plus installed plus a few other tweaks but its never given me problems before. Its also a G4 wizard if that helps.
Thanks!!

you can always sell me your wizard

Install in main memory
Do you have it installed in main memory? I had this problem with an older version installed on the SD card. Moving it to main memory fixed the problem. Also, are you using the current version, which I think is 1.55

Its installed on the main memmory and i have version 1.12 build 2050. I think i might try 2 upgrade then and see what happens.

well i updated spb backup to the latest version and that doesnt seem to work. It now seems to freeze on the windows mobile screen on most soft resets, which are done from the os, ie installing a new program and being asked to soft reset..it freezes on that reset so i have to push the soft reset button. Is there any other options? i dont particularly want to do a hard reset as it would take me ages to tweak and install it all back up to scratch.

chriskaragiannis said:
well i updated spb backup to the latest version and that doesnt seem to work. It now seems to freeze on the windows mobile screen on most soft resets, which are done from the os, ie installing a new program and being asked to soft reset..it freezes on that reset so i have to push the soft reset button. Is there any other options? i dont particularly want to do a hard reset as it would take me ages to tweak and install it all back up to scratch.
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It doesn't sound to me like spb backup is actually the problem, if you can't install the program properly. I would recommend a hard reset. Since our system is working at the moment, you can be organized, copying setting files, my documents, etc. to the sd card. I can generally get back up and running with 95% of my tweaks after a hard reset in an hour. (It is worth keeping a file with program passwords, etc.) This is also a good time to upgrade your ROM, too. One flaw of Windows Mobile is that it doesn't uninstall programs properly, so that files get left. Eventually, a hard reset is a good idea to clean this stuff up.
By the way, an advantage of installing programs on the sd card is that they continue to work. Copy the shortcuts from windows/start menu onto the sd card and you can replace them without reinstalling. Most require reinserting the passwords, however. The programs that shouldn't go on the sd card are programs that (i) have a today plugin (ii) backup programs and other programs that have to perform a soft reset and continue to operate. SD cards don't start up right away coming out of a soft reset, so may not be available when needed in these instances.

Same with Sunnysoft Backup Manager
I have the same problem with SBM, both version 3 and 4. I did notice that it was hung up, I unplugged it and the backup started working. I do not know why, but it helped.

Alrighty then looks like ill have to do a hard reset. Is there a thread that will show me the right way to back up contacts etc and generally make a hard reset easier. I have a G4 wizard thats locked so im not so confident in upgrading my rom. Crossbow would be nice tho. I did manage to install spb back up to the main memmory on the ungrade but that didnt solve my problem. Oh well i guess its time to clean out ye old wizard on the weekend. Geez there goes my HSC.
Thanks.

Outlook
I sync with outlook, which preserves my contacts through a rom upgrade. If you upgrade the ROM you can't use the backup file -- contacts are stored in another form. I hear that it is possible to sync with Yahoo intellisync to the web, but I haven't personally tried it. In any case, syching seems to be the recommended means of saving that information. Don't forget to save your files, although those you can get from a backup.

FYI, I've been having the same problem (i.e., auto-backup, soft reset, FREEZE) since I installed the newest Faria ROM AKU 2.2.
The commonality, I think, might be the latest version of Omap Plus. There also seems to be a problem in general with this ROM of doing soft resets whilst USB is connected (which is how I do my nightly backups/resets).
If you haven;t done that hard reset yet, you might want to wait a day or two... I'll run some experiments tonight to see if Omap is the problem.

Alrightly ill wait, its wierd that it could be oamp clock plus as i have been using that for a while with no real problems. its only over clocked to 216mhz and that just makes it a bit more, lets say, perky than its regular clock speed. Im using OS 2.16... original I-mate Kjam rom on a G4 wizard. Im tossing up whether to pay 50 buks Aus. and get it unlocked, thats a fair amount of cash for some one who lives off bittorrent

I'd be surprised if OMAP is the problem
I've never had a problem with Omap. I'm using whatever came with Faria 3.3, which I assume is the latest. I've had one failed backup (it was only 48KB instead of the normal 5.5MB, so something failed) but otherwise no problems.

yeh, well ive been doing some more playing around with my phone and it just keeps stuffing up. I think its time to do a hard reset to clean out the junk n stuff. I think a G4 CID unlocking program is in the works that will be out soon. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293080 check out the pics.
Thanks.

Same problem here, also started out in February.. Unfortunately, can only offer my company for having this problem. I even tried a hard reset and then restore some old backup but with the same hanging... Windows Mobile really confuses me... I guess it is the "save to flash" thing that happens after a few seconds and not immediately.. Please keep me posted on your problem... I have been soft resetting almost 4 times a day daily since the start of February...

Sorry, no answers. OMAP Plus is fine.; for me, the problem seems to be being on the USB plug. SPB Backup works fine otherwise.

Well i could wait any longer, so i flashed with molskis G4 aku2.3 rom, i had to flash with wizard_love rom first to get the os upgraded but then flashed again with molskis to get the cuztomisations. all on a locked G4. Awsome. Its so fast now compared to before. And well i think it solved the problem as well. I think we should contiue this thread so as to find a solution other than reflashing, as i was up until 1am fixing it all up again.
Thanks!

duh... yup, I am still a newbie to flashing new roms...
Did you CID unlock your G4? ;-)

nah havent cid unlocked my G4, duno if it really worth the money. I think i can wait until the boys at the G4 unlocking project work something out. They always seem to. At least i think my G4 is locked, i bought it off a friend who i dont think even knew what sort of phone it was. ohh well im happy with my mollski.

I don't know but there is all these "I bricked my phone" thing going around with G4 wizards. I also considered Molski's but back off after reading all these negative responses...

Fair enough, i havent had any problems with molskis aku 2.3 rom and it has some nice customisations as well. i tell you what tho, my phone has never booted up qicker since i installed the molski rom. if only for that reason i would do it. were talking less than a minute, my older rom took ages.

titan problems from no where

ok i turned on my xv6800 today and it started out with 14 Mb ram and is slow as all hell i haven added or removed anything and resetting does nothing to help anyone having any similar problems ? is this and issue with this phone i have dcds last rom on it and not much of anything running i usued to start out with 18 Mb ram before this started im about ready to do a hard reset or flash to fix this but i want to hold that off as a last resort if i cant get any help

flashing isnt actually necessary unless you plan on upgrading or downgrading. hard reset sounds like your best bet. i hard reset pretty frequently. UC allows me to hard reset and get everything back up and running like it was within 15 minutes.

well i tried a hard reset and no go still acting weird but now it wont even start up properly so i ended getting a replacement but this UC your talking about how do i get that set up?

It is a program you're running unless you are talking at startup. But with all the moguls I've come in to contact with never had that happened. Usually programs like wmwifirouter, aim, skype, and gps today.

What's UC?

I'd like to know what UC is also. I HATE hard resetting because I have LOTS of games on my card and I have to either re-link them or reinstall them. It takes hours, so I try to avoid hard reset like it is the plague!

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What's UC?
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I figured out what UC is.... kinda complicated if you ask me... here is a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337

Why does phone hard reset so often?

No matter what rom I use, somehow something eventually goes astray (at least I am assuming) or hangs and the phone reboots back to setup.
Sometimes I can go a day or so before it hard resets. I thought maybe it was an isolated rom issue, yet it happens with any room. This also happens to another person I know with a HD2.
Why does this happen? Is there a way to prevent this damn "fail-safe" mechanism? I grow tired of reinstalling all my stuff again and again.

Hi DrewX2,
You'll probably find that a program or tweak (or anything that you can install on your phone) is actually causing these "hard resets" and not the device itself.
I have been using a stock Rom for approximately 1 month and my phone has never hard reset. To be honest I think I've just been lucky this time with what I have chosen to install onto my device.
My best advice is to install programs 1 by 1 and test them for a period of time (personally I would be patient and wait for 1 day). That way you can isolate which program is causing the hard reset.
Of course there is a very very slim chance that it could be a hardware fault, but I wouldn't bank on this. Hope this helps

Sounds like you have problematic hardware to me. I'd try and get a replacement

registry changes
i had big problem when activating some apps to do there recomended registry changes ie
Pocket mechanic professional or sktools
so now i only got sktools running but newer edition for other uses not to try and change any registry stuffs.
iv stock rom and it now runs well but im still very reserved and careful as i think i know the pain your experiencing > makes one feel like throwing it out the window

Try re-flashing to a stock ROM, and see if the problem goes away.

Thanks for all the responses.
Let's just pretend it is some .cab I have installed (I mostly install a few visual modification cabs).
Does the response my phone is having seem like a normal response? Or does your phone never hard reset because of some .cab that has been installed.
I am gonna lay off on adding new stuff to my phone to see if that can prevent these hard resets.

Never had my phone do a hard reset in all the many years I've owned Winmo phones, and my HD2 is no exception.
My own guess is it's a hardware issue but nonetheless I'd try running the phone for a few days with minimal or no third party apps on it, just in case one of them is being nasty, but I've never heard of an app spontaneously causing a hard reset, TBH.

It's nothing to do with apps you have intstalled and nothing to do with your device. You say every rom you instal does this, but I'm willing to bet the stock roms aren't?
As I understand it, it's something to do with the implementation of SSPL. My best suggestion to you would be to flash the new Hard SPL and then to be safe flash a stock rom (1.61 for the newest radio) and then flash your custom rom of choice. I can almost guarantee you your problem will be sorted.
Let us know how it goes

I had spontaneous hard resets on my X1 with Itje's and Valkyrie's ROMs. Wow, it was annoying. I never pinned it down - mainly because I didn't have the time and needed my phone to be working. I flashed Energy ROMs and never had a problem with any of them.
I've also not had any problems with my Leo but I'm still on 1.48 with only a few visual mods.

This is a carateristic of Microsoft software.

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This is a carateristic of Microsoft software.
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No it's really not mate! Sorry but that is just unnecessary Microsoft bashing!
I was having exactly the same problems last week and reflashing a stock rom before the custom rom fixed it.

Never had this problem!
I've had my phone for about 3 weeks now and have never had this happen even once! I am running a TUR 1.61 ROM which I changed to after a week on stock Tmobile UK ROM

You wouldn't have a problem Creed. The Turkish 1.61 rom is a stock rom.

I suppose it's time to flash hardspl and perhaps upgrade the radio to see if that will fix it. And yes this only occurs with custom roms to my knowledge (in my case).

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I suppose it's time to flash hardspl and perhaps upgrade the radio to see if that will fix it. And yes this only occurs with custom roms to my knowledge (in my case).
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Well you should upgrade the radio anyway, because the battery life is much better, but definitely HardSPL and if you want to be safe flash a stock rom before the cooked one and always remember to hard reset after the initial install. It may seem like a pain in the arse, having to do all that, but it sure beats the frustration of unexpected hard resets.

[Q] Random problem forces hard reset

Since flashing Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail ROM to my HD I have been very impressed with it's performance, 99% of the time it is responsive and stable and seems happy even though several programs are running. It has made my HD a really nice phone.
But every now and again something weird will happen, usually activesync reports a problem, or all of my contacts vanish, sometimes files on the device (not SD) cannot be accessed. So I soft reset and it doesn't boot, it will get stuck on the orange splash screen.
In total it has happened about 4 times since I flashed the ROM on Dec 29. It happened last night and eventually the device loaded the background picture, then popped up an error dialogue saying something about being unable to open a file, there was no mention of the file name. I did a soft reset and it then automatically performed a hard reset.
The other times the phone just hangs on the orange splash screen every time, causing me to perform a hard reset manually. Sometimes it will work fine for a good few days, or sometimes fail after only 1 day.
Its really annoying. I cant seem to get a HTC that works at the moment. My TP2 is rubbish, I've tried several ROM's and it is consistently unstable, so I go back to my HD which was always reliable... And now this happens.
please Help or I'll be forced to turn to the darkside and get an iphone and I really don't want to do that!

Why not just return to the "reliable" firmware version used previously?
I'm not a fan of custom roms or 6.5, especially on this underpowered model, it's definitely the most reliable handheld I own or have owned with oem roms though, especially without it's resource gobbling pretty face on.

Not really the most helpful answer, but i suppose i cannot argue the reasoning behind it.
In defence of this ROM it is BRILLIANT when it is working, i'd actually argue that the device feels smoother with this ROM than it did with the stock Orange UK ROM.

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Not really the most helpful answer, but i suppose i cannot argue the reasoning behind it.
In defence of this ROM it is BRILLIANT when it is working, i'd actually argue that the device feels smoother with this ROM than it did with the stock Orange UK ROM.
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Have you tried asking your question in one of Duttys threads. You may get a better response. Also, try flashing a different rom

Thanks.
Since posting the message the problem has not come back.
I have been thinking that there is a possibility that my server was hacked, i noticed a few things had changed on the server, i also had notices when i logged in to facebook and paypal, informing me that someone from New York had accessed my account. the server and facebook used to have the same password.
Is it possible that the problem i had was caused by a hacker on my exchange server issuing a command to reset the device? i know it can do something like this to protect data in the event of a phone going missing.
what does the device do if exchange server performs this routine?

Please help me find this problem... i dont want to buy an Iphone!
Ok I tried a different Rom, this time i used one of KWBR's:
http://media.celogeek.com/roms/kwbr/..._5.7_Sense.rar
a month down the line and its just started to go wrong again.
this time, i find that the device slows down a little bit, prompting me to soft reset, when it boots i find that my contacts are missing, active sync will not load properly, it briefly flashes on screen but lower 1/3rd of active sync window is missing (appears transparent or black) only way to get contacts back and active sync working again is hard reset!
Anyone got any ideas what might be going on?
its been doing this now on both ROM's but i have no idea what may be causing it, as far as additional software i only install a few apps: Slimcontrol 1.5, Core player & GcZ2 (geocaching tool) which all have been running fine before.