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Okay so my wife's Palm Pre messed up and my upgrades don't come eligible until January. So, I bought a Moment off eBay for her. She doesn't care whether she uses that or my Hero.
I was considering using the Moment. I know of a forum like this to go to so I can mod and root the Moment. But I am not sure if it is better performance wise and battery wise than my Hero.
What do y'all think? Should I keep the Hero or hack into the Moment?
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better. If u go to androidmobilesupport.com they haves really good rom there called keebler and from pics of it it has a higher than stock n1 and htc desire
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better.
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
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Then u probably don't know any1 that goes on sdx or ams. The moment is good and also been OC to 1.0.2 ghz tho it still isn't stable YET.
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Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Ya I had the lockup but most newer Roms have a lockup fix. If they don't u can find a zip for it
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Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Sense overhead plus a faster stock processor.
Since you have both phones you might as well root the moment, but I came from that and have had my hero for about a month now. There is no real fix for the lockups, the "fix" just slows the lockups down. I am happier with my hero than the moment, the hero seems do d/l faster and better music quality with pandora through the headphone jack. Either phone is good I just could not deal with a few lockups a day with my old moments (I had it replaced 5 times). Either way you go good luck.
The Samsung Moment is by far the WORST Android phone I have ever had the misfortune of having to help my parents manage. My father decided to surprise out family with Android phones, and thankfully, he got me a Hero.
the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
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the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
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Well, I should get the Moment tomorrow in the mail. I am going o load a custom rom on it. I will post a review of my findings.
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Well a few days ago I recieved the Moment and I swapped my phone to that and I gave my wife my Hero.
I reloaded the latest 2.1 Fresh for her because she actually likes Sense.
I fiddled around with a few roms for the Moment from other websites. Right now I am using the latest Keebler 2.1 rom and updated kernel and it runs great.
I haven't received any data lockups, the rom goes from 800-66mHz. Battery life is great and I am getting constant 9.0+ mflops on linpack and near 500's on quadrant.
So, overall I am happy witht the swap from the Hero to the Moment.
BTW, I must say that the Moment's screen is actually awesome!!!
I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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Its a good phone I haven't had a lockup in weeks I have noobnls radioactive rom ext2 and I sometimes overclocked to 1066ghz
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Where did you go to get the rooting info and rom for the moment? My wife has one and its slow as crap and the battery only lasts about 4 hours.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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I did go over there and look at it...... All I can say is THANK GOD I elected to get a Hero instead of the Moment when I was given the opportunity to get out from under the POC TP2's I had. Yes I know it was a downgrade in money and I lost out on it,but if I had half as much trouble as what some of the posters over there are saying about it after going through 5 TP2's ..I would have gone postal at the repair center..... I wish you all the luck with it and no data lock ups or home key issues..
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Most of the problems I have (had) with the moment is harrdware based problems. And samsung is the reason. I am more or less neew to this so can someone tell me a way to backup the apps and not just the save info for them? This is the 3rd one of these things I have been through in 5 months and next is hell if I don't get another actual phone. I guess I need to find a coustom rom to run so it will stablize.
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I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
Sent from my Keebler using Tapatalk
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wow.. my girlfriend has a moment and shes always talkin about how terrible it is. im trying to get her to trust me and let me root it and load a custom rom. if i do im gonna throw the keebler rom on it. 1060mhz, 10+ mflops?? i think i might steal her phone.
Didn't like the moment because of the slide-out keyboard
Hello people, I have been playing around with PDAs for a while, my first device was a BlueAngel waaay back when... my last device has been a hero for about 2 years now.
I have recently replaced my old hero with a new one that came with 2.1 from the factory -I suppose- my questions/comments/concerns are:
is there such a thing as too much flashing that can mess up a device? I know that there were 2 versions of the hero out there one with no "With Google" and one with "with google" and there were some diferences between them when you flash stuff,
My last hero was a "with google" but came with the 1.56 whenever I installed 2.1 on it it just went crazy, very very laggy could not make a phone call to save my life. if I flashed any of the 2.2 from cyanogen or anyone else the device worked perfect, it was only when I flashed a Sense 2.1 rom that the device went absolutely crazy. don't know why... apparently no one knows... i guess...
this last hero that I got came with 2.1 from sprint. the device worked AWESOME super fast and could actually make a phone call. so I really think that there is a hardware issue that HTC/Sprint resolved but they wont admit to it... I can see absolutely NO difference between the devices or the ROMS that i flashed on them. its just a big mystery that one device works with sense 2.1 and one does not. until yesterday...
yesterday morning I woke up and my device was out of battery, really odd because It was fully charged when I went to sleep. and I noticed that the device started to behave the same way that my old Hero did with 2.1 could not get it to call anyone or text or anything if you press a key it takes 10 min to respond. and until right now I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY! it was working PERFECT super fast and now its not. I flashed NFX Sprint 2.31.651.7 STOCK Deoxed/Odex Update3.1 on wednsday of last week and it was working AWESOME, GREAT WORK nfinitefx45, then it just quit. working awesome 1 day, next week its crap.
so I was wondering if TOO Much flashing brakes the circuits or something (I cant imagine how or why) but maybe its just the ghost in the machine. it was working great!!! im extremely baffled by this. maybe its because some if the flashing I did was with the battery under 30% but I cant imagine this braking it either, maybe the I/O operations check fail when the battery is under 30% and you permanently brake it, i don't know. another thing i noticed is that it queries the network ALL DAY LONG it tries to synch all day long with my gmail account, which it never does, I cant see my contacts. that's why it was out of battery next morning. maybe too much flashing brakes the radio?
today i noticed that it wanted to go out and get 2.32 and update, maybe that's why it was querying the network so much, so I went back to stock 2.31 because it wont update if you have a recovery image, and let it run the update.
nothing. still lags a lot, cant place a phone call or anything.... I am really ready to throw myself out the window cuz I cannot figure it out, maybe I did damage the Hardware some how...
does anyone have any ideas? or has anyone experienced this ??
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Hello people, I have been playing around with PDAs for a while, my first device was a BlueAngel waaay back when... my last device has been a hero for about 2 years now.
I have recently replaced my old hero with a new one that came with 2.1 from the factory -I suppose- my questions/comments/concerns are:
is there such a thing as too much flashing that can mess up a device? I know that there were 2 versions of the hero out there one with no "With Google" and one with "with google" and there were some diferences between them when you flash stuff,
My last hero was a "with google" but came with the 1.56 whenever I installed 2.1 on it it just went crazy, very very laggy could not make a phone call to save my life. if I flashed any of the 2.2 from cyanogen or anyone else the device worked perfect, it was only when I flashed a Sense 2.1 rom that the device went absolutely crazy. don't know why... apparently no one knows... i guess...
this last hero that I got came with 2.1 from sprint. the device worked AWESOME super fast and could actually make a phone call. so I really think that there is a hardware issue that HTC/Sprint resolved but they wont admit to it... I can see absolutely NO difference between the devices or the ROMS that i flashed on them. its just a big mystery that one device works with sense 2.1 and one does not. until yesterday...
yesterday morning I woke up and my device was out of battery, really odd because It was fully charged when I went to sleep. and I noticed that the device started to behave the same way that my old Hero did with 2.1 could not get it to call anyone or text or anything if you press a key it takes 10 min to respond. and until right now I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY! it was working PERFECT super fast and now its not. I flashed NFX Sprint 2.31.651.7 STOCK Deoxed/Odex Update3.1 on wednsday of last week and it was working AWESOME, GREAT WORK nfinitefx45, then it just quit. working awesome 1 day, next week its crap.
so I was wondering if TOO Much flashing brakes the circuits or something (I cant imagine how or why) but maybe its just the ghost in the machine. it was working great!!! im extremely baffled by this. maybe its because some if the flashing I did was with the battery under 30% but I cant imagine this braking it either, maybe the I/O operations check fail when the battery is under 30% and you permanently brake it, i don't know. another thing i noticed is that it queries the network ALL DAY LONG it tries to synch all day long with my gmail account, which it never does, I cant see my contacts. that's why it was out of battery next morning. maybe too much flashing brakes the radio?
today i noticed that it wanted to go out and get 2.32 and update, maybe that's why it was querying the network so much, so I went back to stock 2.31 because it wont update if you have a recovery image, and let it run the update.
nothing. still lags a lot, cant place a phone call or anything.... I am really ready to throw myself out the window cuz I cannot figure it out, maybe I did damage the Hardware some how...
does anyone have any ideas? or has anyone experienced this ??
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Are you currently rooted?
yeah im rooted, but it happens when rooted and on stock 2.31 and now 2.32
SysCrasher13 said:
yeah im rooted, but it happens when rooted and on stock 2.31 and now 2.32
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Go to CM.... it's android 2.2, and there's really no issues with it. It's fast, looks good if you apply a theme, and takes care of all the sense bloat
I have run BLACKMOD_21NOV and it runs great, thats kinda my point, why does it run great on 2.2 and it sucks on sense 2.1, when it came from sprint it was running great on sense 2.1 and now its just crap. I think i might have done something to the hardware because of too much flashing Lol!!! i dont know...
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I have run BLACKMOD_21NOV and it runs great, thats kinda my point, why does it run great on 2.2 and it sucks on sense 2.1, when it came from sprint it was running great on sense 2.1 and now its just crap. I think i might have done something to the hardware because of too much flashing Lol!!! i dont know...
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No, that won't damage the hardware.... Sprint HTC sense for the hero is slow and buggy, just kind of the way it is
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I have run BLACKMOD_21NOV and it runs great, thats kinda my point, why does it run great on 2.2 and it sucks on sense 2.1, when it came from sprint it was running great on sense 2.1 and now its just crap. I think i might have done something to the hardware because of too much flashing Lol!!! i dont know...
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Yeah theres no way to much flashing could possibly break your phone or make it laggy or etc. If that was the case then my phone would have exploded by now as i had my hero since launch date and it has been flashed almost over 1000 times maybe with different roms and radios and other mods and hacks lol. As impaler said sense is great but our heros just are old technology even with an over clocked processor and mods I still dont think its just good enough for sense. Sense runs perfect on a faster phone like an EVO. I used LiquidSense even with all the bloat removed it just wasnt fast enough for my taste, great rom though. Vanilla is just your best bet for the hero and its old hardware it works fast enough and stable. Dirk
yeah it was slow, but I using [email protected] #43 691mhz and it was running great! fast, stable then it broke! hahahaha, any ways thanks for your input. Im gonna mess around some more if not im gonna take it back and probably get the EVO, that sucks cuz I really like the hero, evo is just to dang big! Lol !
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yeah it was slow, but I using [email protected] #43 691mhz and it was running great! fast, stable then it broke! hahahaha, any ways thanks for your input. Im gonna mess around some more if not im gonna take it back and probably get the EVO, that sucks cuz I really like the hero, evo is just to dang big! Lol !
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Man evo is a little too big for me, as my upgrade is december 1st and my palms are itching for a new phone, its either the evo or samsung epic (which is so sick) but i hear theres other phones coming out before the end of the year. Maybe you could wait a little i hear theres another phone coming out with evo specs and the size or a nexus one, i think its called the HTC KNIGHT or something. Good luck but you might not want to stick with the hero too long if you have the option of taking it back.
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Man evo is a little too big for me, as my upgrade is december 1st and my palms are itching for a new phone, its either the evo or samsung epic (which is so sick) but i hear theres other phones coming out before the end of the year. Maybe you could wait a little i hear theres another phone coming out with evo specs and the size or a nexus one, i think its called the HTC KNIGHT or something. Good luck but you might not want to stick with the hero too long if you have the option of taking it back.
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Yup, I'm interested in the HTC Knight as well
I forgot to mention that the data keeps connecting and disconnecting and that slows down the device downloading ROM Manager from the market took like 45 min because it was sooo sloow. I dont know if that matters... maybe I'll update my prl and profile..
Yeah I really like the samsung also, but I think that HTC are just more customizable and theres a great comunity out there hacking and craking these devices, the KNIGHT looks sweet!!! yeah Im not going to hang on to the Hero much longer, Im due for an update and I think im gonna get the evo...
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I forgot to mention that the data keeps connecting and disconnecting and that slows down the device downloading ROM Manager from the market took like 45 min because it was sooo sloow. I dont know if that matters... maybe I'll update my prl and profile..
Yeah I really like the samsung also, but I think that HTC are just more customizable and theres a great comunity out there hacking and craking these devices, the KNIGHT looks sweet!!! yeah Im not going to hang on to the Hero much longer, Im due for an update and I think im gonna get the evo...
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Yup, can't wait for dual core either!
Rumor says that the Knight/Evo Shift could possibly ship as a dual core. We shall see.
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/22/htc-knightevo-shift-4g-passes-fcc/
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
user7618 said:
Rumor says that the Knight/Evo Shift could possibly ship as a dual core. We shall see.
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/22/htc-knightevo-shift-4g-passes-fcc/
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Saw that, want something better though
theimpaler747 said:
Saw that, want something better though
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Meh, I got plenty of time. My 1 year isn't until middle of April, so I would expect to have monsters roaming around by then.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Meh, I got plenty of time. My 1 year isn't until middle of April, so I would expect to have monsters roaming around by then.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Lol, it takes all my willpower to hold off from buying an Evo... but I will prevail!!
after much time spent trying to figure out, i think the problem with it being slow is that its always trying to sync gmail email, contacts and calendar, it doesn't stop syncing ever, thats why im runnign out of battery, anyone have any ideas ??? or know why?
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after much time spent trying to figure out, i think the problem with it being slow is that its always trying to sync gmail email, contacts and calendar, it doesn't stop syncing ever, thats why im runnign out of battery, anyone have any ideas ??? or know why?
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Just disable auto-sync, that's what I do. I only allow it to auto-sync contacts
the thing is that it never finishes sync, so I dont have any contacts, email ok but contacts no. hahaha im going nuts... thanks for your advice dude, also I tried flashing your Impaled Blue!!!! theme over blackmod21nov and it gets stuck your splash screen... to be exact i flashed ImpaledBlue-signed.zip and wont move past tux splash screen...
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the thing is that it never finishes sync, so I dont have any contacts, email ok but contacts no. hahaha im going nuts... thanks for your advice dude, also I tried flashing your Impaled Blue!!!! theme over blackmod21nov and it gets stuck your splash screen... to be exact i flashed ImpaledBlue-signed.zip and wont move past tux splash screen...
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Have you tried wiping data and cache on the Google apps?
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Hi all..my opinion, the old desire is more smooth and faster than DZ. Is it only me, or does anyone else have the same opinion? I installed an app to monitor cpu usage. The graph indicator jumps to 100% eventhough I did not open other tasks, maybe just background processess. Can anyone share their opinion here? Thank you in advance.
This is my third HTC Sense phone now, having owned a hero, desire and now the desire Z, and I can say this is the quickest and most lag free stock rom I have ever used, by a long long way.
However if your really having issues then root and install a custom rom, VillainRomz will be out very soon which is based on stock sense and is fantastically fast.
Thanks for the reply..i owned a deesire before, and sold it to get this..but really i feel DZ is laggy compare to my old desire, even with stock rom..i bought this second hands from another person, he claimed that this is just a week old but he want to resell it to get a desire hd. Somehow i doubt if this is a genuine htc phone. This phone is "made in China". Got htc factory in china? My old desire made in Taiwan. How can i verify this? Can i use the IMEI num to check it? Any method to check the actual age of this phone? Really need help here.
I think DesireZ is the smoothiest I ever had, even compared with the lagfixed I9000.
I know there is a website which you can input IMEI and it can tell you the where does it come from. I forgot the site address but I will check and update to you later.
About your laggy DZ. I think the ex-owner has done something wrong on it. Have you ever tried to back to factory reset and see if it still lags?
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I think DesireZ is the smoothiest I ever had, even compared with the lagfixed I9000.
I know there is a website which you can input IMEI and it can tell you the where does it come from. I forgot the site address but I will check and update to you later.
About your laggy DZ. I think the ex-owner has done something wrong on it. Have you ever tried to back to factory reset and see if it still lags?
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Just found the website....
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr
click2me said:
This phone is "made in China". Got htc factory in china? My old desire made in Taiwan. How can i verify this? Can i use the IMEI num to check it? Any method to check the actual age of this phone? Really need help here.
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My DZ is "Made in Taiwan".
Thanks for the reply mate, really appreciate it. i tried the link, the result came out:
Note: This IMEI number seems to be correct, but we do not have any information on this specific handset. Please add the missing information below.
Then there was boxes to fill in for the brand and phone model, and network type. but after i added the informations, then click the button "ADD", evrything just dissappear, back to the page before i inserted the IMEI num.
does this means my DZ is not genuine?
feeling down.
Mine's made in China too, and was incredibly laggy by default. I assume the difference is quite simple: is yours the Asia/Pacific model? Mine is too.
It's likely that HTC have multiple factories, and ours came from one in China. Regardless, the stock ROM on it had a whole tonne of **** I didn't want, and the phone didn't need - including Starhub TV, which was laughable.
Since flashing the Villision ROM the phone has been much, *much* better. It's no longer crashing 3+ times a day, it's no longer laggy, and all that unremoveable bloat is gone.
I suspect the hardware is fine; the default, integrated Asia/Pacific ROM is ****house however.
thanks nzfrio. its enlighting to know other ppl got the same issue. yes, mine is asia/pacific model (Singapore to be exact). So got HTC factory in china? so thats mean my DZ i genuine? if that so, its the best news i heard today. thanks mate.
so i guess the culprit is the stock rom itself. have to search for a good rom then. i will appreciate if anyone can suggest a good rom here, other than villian rom suggested by Lennyuk above. but i will give villian rom a go first.. hope this will solve my problem..
Rooted with vision overclocked at 1.3 and running real smooth. Smoother than my friends captivate
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click2me said:
thanks nzfrio. its enlighting to know other ppl got the same issue. yes, mine is asia/pacific model (Singapore to be exact). So got HTC factory in china? so thats mean my DZ i genuine? if that so, its the best news i heard today. thanks mate.
so i guess the culprit is the stock rom itself. have to search for a good rom then. i will appreciate if anyone can suggest a good rom here, other than villian rom suggested by Lennyuk above. but i will give villian rom a go first.. hope this will solve my problem..
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Mine's the Singaporean one too, so I guess we have the same model . I can't say for sure if there's an HTC factory in China, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't (especially considering they're a Chinese company - I can't post an outside link yet, but you can check Wikipedia) - why go to all the trouble of producing a replica *this* accurate, and then **** it up with an obvious label on the back ? So yeah, I'd be stunned if they were imitation phones .
The Villision ROM is pretty good; it's fast, and it's nice to use. The only thing you should be wary of is that by default, your keymap will be messed up and the capacitive keys won't work. This is due to the keymap for our phones not being in that ROM (it's based on the G2 AOSP ROM); you can flash a small update to get them working . See the thread on it in the Desire Z Development forum for more info; someone posted the update in there.
Other than that, Cyanogen will be slick when it's out I'm sure; I'm going to wait for the final release and see how easy it is on the battery before trying it out though! I'm also hoping we get a MIUI port sometime in the future.
click2me said:
thanks nzfrio. its enlighting to know other ppl got the same issue. yes, mine is asia/pacific model (Singapore to be exact). So got HTC factory in china? so thats mean my DZ i genuine? if that so, its the best news i heard today. thanks mate.
so i guess the culprit is the stock rom itself. have to search for a good rom then. i will appreciate if anyone can suggest a good rom here, other than villian rom suggested by Lennyuk above. but i will give villian rom a go first.. hope this will solve my problem..
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Though there was no laggy on my DZ with stock ROM, I have just still installed the Villian ROM 30 minutes ago and the ROM was really fine. If you are going to flash a custom ROM, I will suggest you to try this ROM first.
latest update: i can't root my DZ using visionary!!
hi..can u enlight me how u done yr rooting? i can't do it using the visionary tool..is there any method?
nzfrio said:
Mine's the Singaporean one too, so I guess we have the same model . I can't say for sure if there's an HTC factory in China, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't (especially considering they're a Chinese company - I can't post an outside link yet, but you can check Wikipedia) - why go to all the trouble of producing a replica *this* accurate, and then **** it up with an obvious label on the back ? So yeah, I'd be stunned if they were imitation phones .
The Villision ROM is pretty good; it's fast, and it's nice to use. The only thing you should be wary of is that by default, your keymap will be messed up and the capacitive keys won't work. This is due to the keymap for our phones not being in that ROM (it's based on the G2 AOSP ROM); you can flash a small update to get them working . See the thread on it in the Desire Z Development forum for more info; someone posted the update in there.
Other than that, Cyanogen will be slick when it's out I'm sure; I'm going to wait for the final release and see how easy it is on the battery before trying it out though! I'm also hoping we get a MIUI port sometime in the future.
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hi..can u enlight me how u done yr rooting? i can't do it using the visionary tool..is there any method?
nzfrio said:
Mine's the Singaporean one too, so I guess we have the same model . I can't say for sure if there's an HTC factory in China, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't (especially considering they're a Chinese company - I can't post an outside link yet, but you can check Wikipedia)
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HTC are a Taiwanese company. I think they'd be kind of upset to be called Chinese, given the relations between Taiwan and China.
click2me said:
latest update: i can't root my DZ using visionary!!
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Check the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=851421
There's a suggestion that the latest batch of phones (e.g. Vodafone UK-branded ones, and Asian phones) have a different serial number range and perhaps have been changed somehow that makes the current permanent rooting not work (though temp root should still work).
Work is ongoing on this, so currently we don't know for sure what the details are.
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HTC are a Taiwanese company. I think they'd be kind of upset to be called Chinese, given the relations between Taiwan and China.
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So they are; my bad .
click2me said:
hi..can u enlight me how u done yr rooting? i can't do it using the visionary tool..is there any method?
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I used the RAGE method, but I would recommend caution; the phone does behave erratically while you're typing the commands in (acore crashes repeatedly) which is pretty disconcerting. Just make sure you have the latest VISIONary .
i feel my phone is considerably slower than my brother's 'normal' desire. especially scrolling through the app drawer.
Mine is made in China (so it says on the back of the box) and on that IMEI check website it says "Note: This IMEI number might to be correct, but it is impossible to get this confirmed."
ALSO i CANNOT get permanent root using rage or Visionary
steviewevie said:
HTC are a Taiwanese company. I think they'd be kind of upset to be called Chinese, given the relations between Taiwan and China.
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I am a Hong Kongnese but immigrated to Taiwan for 15 years than came back to HK 3 years ago and currently living in Mainland China. So, you're right. Taiwan people don't usually call themselves Mainland Chinese, but will call Taiwanese. Anyway, it's a never ending political issue between these 2 countries.....
Despite of that. Can anyone in the forum recommend me a Cyanogen ROM which can use on DZ and can enlarge the font size. Everything on DZ are good except this annoying small font which I have to use a magnifier to read the contents all the time......tragedy!
hello guys I have a nexus with one gingerbread 2.3.4 and when I use the 3G network after 2-3 minutes the phone restarts. with this bug I can not use Internet
any ideas? Thanks!
Yes. Me to.
What ROM and/or kernel combo you guys using?
I have the stock rom ota gingerbread 2.3.4, nothing changed, full stock. I recently tried miui 1.5.20 the problem is the same. may be a hardware problem?
Does the phone get hot to the touch on the back? Does the phone still reboot if you turn off 3g data and you go exclusivly Wifi?
Had the same issue with my old Nexus 1. Called HTC support and they immediately said it was a defective board. RMA'd and got refurb, but at least it does not reboot when I use 3g.
Good luck.
thanks jhsiao36, think if I update the radio version 5.12.00.08 can change something or brought it in for service?
poltor said:
thanks jhsiao36, think if I update the radio version 5.12.00.08 can change something or brought it in for service?
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I didn't help for me. I tried the 5.12.00.08 radio and it suffered from the same 3g reboots. But when I disabled 3g and used Wifi, never suffered from reboots.
If the phone is still under warranty, definitely encourage you to call them. HTC's customer and tech support is the best I've ever seen. They replaced it no questions asked, even though my phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked.
jhsiao36 said:
HTC's customer and tech support is the best I've ever seen. They replaced it no questions asked, even though my phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked.
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+1 They are awesome to deal with. It really makes me sad that they are starting to lock down their phones, because I won't buy a phone if I can't run custom ROMs on it.
But with the radio, I highly doubt flashing to 5.12 would help. Google released the 5.08 radio with the OTA update to Gingerbread. If 5.12 was any better, I'm sure they would've included it. There had to have been a reason they stuck with 5.08.
If you aren't afraid of losing anything, or already made backups, you could try the passimg method of giving you a completely stock install. See if the problem occurs with that as well. This would rule out software vs hardware.
No one can really solve it?
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No one can really solve it?
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I really don't think it can be resolve without sending it back to HTC for a replace/repair. As I said in my previous posts, I've tried 3 different ROMs - stock, cyanogenmod 6 and 7 - all exhibit the same issue - reboot when on 3g, but perfect if on Wifi. And yes, it will reboot even on a freshly install ROM (no apps installed).
HTC knows of this issue and they will replace/repair. I got a refurb and it works perfectly - stock, cyanogenmod 6 or 7.
Sorry, probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but search on <insert your favorite search engine> and you will find that this is a fairly widespread problem.
Thank you for your answer! It does not work, had sent a factory repair.
After several tests, on Monday I sent the phone in for service. I think it's a hardware problem, maybe a bad batch of motherboards.
my S / N: HT05... and your?
I will tell you just back from assistance.
Did you ever overheat it? I believe that the N1 has a problem if you really push it that it can overheat. Once it happens once it will happen again and every time it takes less and less to cause the reboot. Eventually it reboots just with 3G.
I was running mine in the car-mount with GPS, Google Maps (3G), screen on brightest, on a hot summer day while charging ... and it rebooted. Didn't think much of it but then it started rebooting every time I used GPS and charging.
In the end it was pretty near useless ... rebooting all the time. I sent it in twice (the first time they couldn't reproduce the problem) and the second time they replaced the board. Problem solved.
Now I am very careful not to overheat it.
hey all,
As all have seen in the forums, there is a beta of mango which is already running on our HD2's.
My question is:
Is it really worth to flash now or should we wait for later??
Which bugs have been registered with our devices until now?
Are they serious or only small bugs??
Thx in advance
I have noticed that several apps do not work properly on Mango. Either lagging or crashing. I reverted to nodo..
If you want to do some experiments then flash Mango now. If you need stable good work without waiting next unexpected reboot use Yuki V5.
A lot of bugs from small to big in Mango now .....
i think it's not the right place to open this thread, but, you have to try it
it has A LOT of bugs, everywhere.. in IE9, apps, etc etc etc
you can call and write sms, you have only 5 lenguages, and, not all apps work, so, if you need a stable phone, i adviced you to change to mango even if it works normally in phone functions
if you want to try the new speed, right, you can come back, sure!
so, simply you have to try if the bugs isn't big issues for you
I'm using Mango and am amazed how well it works. I encountered one real bug so far, in IE9. It doesn't seem to like Edge data networks. One other semi-bug is sometimes the links in the XDA website don't work...maybe it's just super slow loading, though.
Otherwise, all that I've tried so far works splendidly. Last night I used the Bluetooth to connect to a BT shelf speaker and it worked without a fault.
I can't say how it might work on a Euro HD2, but my T-Mobile US HD2 loves it. I also think Mango might handle video response differently for producing colors because the color reproduction on my HD2 running Mango is fantastic. I compared the display to my Focus, which runs Super AMOLED display and they are almost identical in color and the HD2 looks cleaner, crisper and has better white production than the Focus.
If you have a US HD2, go for it. I'm keeping mine because I like that much.
I have TMOUS. I did two attempts to flash this very green Mango, but couldn't live with it well. When I flashed and used mango i tell myself it is just small problem soon will be OK... bug... then another bug.... then during phone book loading to blueant reboot.... another reboot.... then apps don't work... so many more... So i can say my phone absolutly doesn't like Green Mango.
I finaly say - No can't live with it when perfectly working in all aspects NODO present. Went back to V5 NODO and so happy now again!!! But will wait of course final mango.
DO NOT FLASH HD2 MANGO!
Not worth it at all. It's all way to buggy and slow. It's almost like when android was first discovered onto our Leo devices- slow and cruddy but definitely has a future!
Thx for your feedback guys
I will not flash it, will wait for the final version
Have a nice weekend!!
Do not flash hd2 mango!
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Thx for your feedback guys
I will not flash it, will wait for the final version
Have a nice weekend!!
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Good choice. It was fun to experiment with, just to check it out. But as others have said it's waaaaayyy too buggy. 3rd party apps don't work, even some official apps like ebay don't work. Proximity sensor in-call doesn't work, so lots of hanging up or putting people on hold with cheeks, lol. IE9 is horrible in this build. Only Facebook integration works in the OS, etc. But I can tell you when it is done & we get a fully functional mango rom, it will be amazing!!!
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Good choice. It was fun to experiment with, just to check it out. But as others have said it's waaaaayyy too buggy. 3rd party apps don't work, even some official apps like ebay don't work. Proximity sensor in-call doesn't work, so lots of hanging up or putting people on hold with cheeks, lol. IE9 is horrible in this build. Only Facebook integration works in the OS, etc. But I can tell you when it is done & we get a fully functional mango rom, it will be amazing!!!
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Hmmm...you maybe should try the one from elfinlazz. It works splendidly and I just checked the PS and it worked like normal WP7. I did check the eBay app and couldn't get it to work. But it seems this elfinlazz ROM is closer to an actual WP7 than any of them.
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Hmmm...you maybe should try the one from elfinlazz. It works splendidly and I just checked the PS and it worked like normal WP7. I did check the eBay app and couldn't get it to work. But it seems this elfinlazz ROM is closer to an actual WP7 than any of them.
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That's the only one I've used. I would constantly hang up & put people on hold while talking on the phone.
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That's the only one I've used. I would constantly hang up & put people on hold while talking on the phone.
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You might investigate your card then, because they can cause some issues. Mine is Sandisk class 4 16GB
MartyLK said:
You might investigate your card then, because they can cause some issues. Mine is Sandisk class 4 16GB
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I'll check, but it's never given me issues with any other WP7 roms. And I also have the class 4 sandisk 16 gb. But now that I'm back on Yuki's NoDo, it's running perfect again. Appreciate the help though.
Finalforce1111 said:
hey all,
As all have seen in the forums, there is a beta of mango which is already running on our HD2's.
My question is:
Is it really worth to flash now or should we wait for later??
Which bugs have been registered with our devices until now?
Are they serious or only small bugs??
Thx in advance
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This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
giorgib said:
Do not flash hd2 mango!
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And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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I gotta agree. Mine works excellently and after doing the camera trick, battery life is much, much better. This is a ROM I want to make permanent.
I want ripe mango
TheATHEiST said:
This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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Wish I had that kind of luck with the battery! Without any use it would last around 3 hours. With average use I'd get an hour of battery. Tried the cam trick & changing radio, but nothing wild improve it for me. Guess it's luck of the draw when it comes to battery & stability with the green mango roms. Still it does have some awesome new features. Can't wait for a ripe one.
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•Would• not wild. Won't let me edit on the app right now for some reason.
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Hi there,
Is it still buggy right now ?
I have a plan to upgrade from 6.5 to 7.5
thanks,
Ronald