I have a bunch of radio channels that I love to use. Unfortunately my standard players (Pocket Music and Pocket Player) won't work. The HD2 turns off after a few minutes no matter what I set the power settings to. So I tried to stream with the built in Streaming Media Player, but couldn't get anywhere. The stations I use are OGG. what formats can this player play? Only the rather obscure RTSP from streaming media players?
Try TCPMP.
But isn't OGG a wave format?
No idea... But TCPMP doesn't work because it turns off after a few minutes, like all other third party players. But I have heard that Kinoma play doesn't do that. I may make an attempt with a trial version of that.
Yeah I've noticed this morning that it does stop playing if you turn off the screen. What works for me is to leave the screen on. It doesn't fall asleep while playing. Would that be an option for you?
Yeah, that would be an option. Just not a very good one, since it will eat the battery faster. I guess I may have to get myself an extra battery. Totally idiotic to have an error like that in such a great phone!
I don't think it's an error. I think it's some sort of timeout that the Sense player can handle (reset) but other players can't.
I have solved the problem! Turned out that it could be fixed by using the cab from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5353195 That keeps the WiFi connection alive even if the phone is suspended or whatever you want to call the "sort of sleeping" that happens when you're playing something. Now I stream until the battery dies!
Nice find!
But... isn't keeping Wifi on the whole time more energy consuming than leaving the screen on (dimmed) when playing music?
Regular music playback isn't affected of this problem. That will keep playing if you suspend. The problem is streaming, and at least for me streaming means WiFi. So it's actually a step down in power usage from having both the screen and the Wifi on to only the Wifi.
In that case you and I have different problems. My music (from the storagecard) stops playing after about 2 minutes but only if I use my bluetooth carkit to listen. If I play music on the HD2's speaker the music stops almost immediately after turning off the screen. I read that Mortplayer shouldn't have this issue.
It's probably the WiFi and the bluetooth connections that keep the HD2 alive for some minutes and after their timeout puts the phone to sleep.
There's probably a similar registry key hack that will fix that for you. I hope somebody finds it!
Mastiff said:
I have a bunch of radio channels that I love to use. Unfortunately my standard players (Pocket Music and Pocket Player) won't work. The HD2 turns off after a few minutes no matter what I set the power settings to. So I tried to stream with the built in Streaming Media Player, but couldn't get anywhere. The stations I use are OGG. what formats can this player play? Only the rather obscure RTSP from streaming media players?
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Hi Mastiff, what app did you find best to use with streaming radio? Would be great if you could share some setting or xml file that contain radio stations list, so that I do not need to collect them from scratch (I live in Norway too..)
Actually I think I remember you from earlier! I use Windows Media Player, "Det enkleste er ofte det beste". Of course I use Pocket Music for anything else of music (video I watch in my home theater with a 2,5 meter wide screen, not on a cell phone!). As for my sttaions I simply use a reg file that puts the few stations I listen to (I'm a boring dude, I prefer news and facts, not music programs). Make this into a reg file and import it (P3 is there before I do actually listen to Pyro sometimes...):
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Preferences\OpenUrlMRU]
"3"="http://straumr.nrk.no/nrk_radio_p3_m"
"2"="http://straumr.nrk.no/nrk_radio_alltid_nyheter_m"
"1"="http://straumr.nrk.no/nrk_radio_p2_m"
"0"="http://straumr.nrk.no/nrk_radio_p1_m"
Editing Registry... Thought some text or xml file with all settings could be kept... Anyway, I went to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Preferences , but there is not OpenUrlMRU key there. Should I create new one? Not sure how to enter those HTTP references into registry...
No, you don't have to edit anything. The text is in the correct format to be imported, you copy from "REGEDIT" and down, with the last ". But you ned a program like Tascal RegEdit to import reg files. I didn't mention that because I'm so used to it. Sorry.
To my surprise I found out yesterday that turning off the screen while playing music over my bluetooth car stereo did not affect the music. It kept playing, while previously it stopped after a couple of minutes. I'm still using TCPMP.
And you haven't changed anything? I guess it's those HTC Gremlins again...or was that leprechauns?
Well I was forced to perform a hard reset a week ago, enabling myself to make a decent tweak list for my phone. As long as the HTC Langoliers stay away I'm OK with it . I'm still using a stock 1.66 Dutch rom.
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Hello all. I have been a huge fan of this site for years. I have worked on many HTC products useing Cabs from this site and the information has been great. I can't thank every one on this site enough for all the great work you guys/girls have done.
I have T-Mobiles Wing / HTC Harald. I have two programs to view the network folder (My Home PCs Folders.) The HTC network folder pluggin works the best. How ever I am unable to watch movies from my PC with out transfering them to the wing. I have tried the Streaming video plugin but it fails to work with this. I have also tried to force Core media player to view them but all I get is sound. Am I totally missing why this will not work? If any one can fill in the blanks for me or point me in the right direction I would be most gratefull.
there are several programs for streaming media...
i guess vlc can do it.
and there are several other programs. just goole a little.
when i find the program i tell you.
found:
http://www.orb.com/orb/
i've been doing the same too, i can stream music n etc directly but not videos, but then again its full 700mb movies..
i've also tried to get Orb to work couple of times but i just dont get it :S
I think I might have stumbled onto my own answer. I was playing with the settings in "Core Media" player. (I purchased the Official one not that there is a differance I just wanted to make sure.) Any how if I turn down the Speed to 50% it plays perfect. Not sure about the sound (Baby was sleeping while I was fooling with the Wing.) Will keep playing with it till I have it tweaked for WIFI playing.
Note: Music play back over wifi at 50% sucks hard core..... Stick with 100% for MP3s over Wifi.
Ok so I never really cared about music... but my new job (yes got a new yob during a recession!!!!! was only laid off errrr 3 week vacation as I see it...)
anyway...
I now have to take the train to philly... and I listen to music on my mogul...
I tried TCPMP but I dont have stuff setup as a playlist yet....
I then used Media Player which was easy... but for some reason it kept on randomly changing songs....
the audio manager in the rom i am using was working then started acting up.. but now im trying a new rom Titan Reloaded M2D 1.4 beta 2 by bitserve
so gonna try using the touch flo music part.. has a shuffle so will see...
anyway what do you recommend?
media player was easy... and you can rate the songs.. but no way to play your list by rating....
i just dont want an ipod... I used to carry all kinds of stuff... pda, cell, external gps, etc.. now I have it all in 1... and love it...
for videos I use WMP. but for songs I use S2p that works almost like the Itouch. just play lists not too sure about.
for WMP. I usually like to put the music in different folders on the card by genre. que them up and make a playlist so on and so forth.
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for videos I use WMP. but for songs I use S2p that works almost like the Itouch. just play lists not too sure about.
for WMP. I usually like to put the music in different folders on the card by genre. que them up and make a playlist so on and so forth.
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i did install s2p before I left for work.. so far it is cool... can turn mogul off and it still plays....
minimal features but has what I want so think it is a winner...
thanks!
Jeff
since we are talking about s2p, has anyone had a problem where it takes s2p like 3-5 seconds to load a song everytime the song changes. What also came with that problem is that it takes a lot longer for s2p to close andbring me to the home screen. I just sit at a black screen sometimes for 10 seconds till i get to the home screen. If anyone has a solution i would love to hear it
edit: all my files are organized in a nice structured format sdCard/music/BandName/Album/track i dont know why its doing it but its definitely weird
edit(2/26/09): i uninstalled s2p cleared all reg values and everything with skTools and reinstalled s2p and works fine again.
i am not too sure. I loaded mine on the card but other than that ot too sure.
Nitrogen
You can also check out Nitrogen. I really like the program and can be found on the "Development and Hacking" on the main page if you search for it.
I prefer to use Media Player. I program S2U2 to button 5, so I just start my music, hit button 5, and my phone turns off quickly and my music keeps on playing. The media player is much more palatable with a skin.
I am assuming you checked your shuffle button on media player to make sure it is not on?
Most everything is geared towards music. I don't tend to listen to music, I like listening to my podcasts and audio magazines.
Currently I'm using RSS Hub with TCPMP which allows me to jump forward/back 10 seconds if I missed what they said or need to skip forward thru commercials. It works ok, but not great.
I'd really like to find software that stops when I get a call and restarts when the call is completed, has bigger on screen buttons, has the ability to automatically add the newer podcasts to a playlist (might be dreaming...). If I could control it with a Jabra 8010 BT headset that'd be even better!
Any suggestions? I tried MortPlayer but had some issues with it glitching, also that it went full screen - I need to see signal strength, other running programs, battery power, etc...
I'm not sure these would meet all of your specs
but I've used Pocket Player for podcasts with good results, I remember it would pause playback for a call. I like Kinoma for audiobooks, as it remembers where you left off in the file. For a free audio podcast app, you could try the new version of Viigo, it seemed much improved from the last time I had used it.
Good Luck
MortPlayer works great for audiobooks and podcasts.
PocketPlayer. Pauses on calls and has a bookmarking facility. I use it for Audiobooks and podcasts using AllwaySync to sync the podcasts from iTunes on my network to the external card on my Touch HD
Regards
Pocket Tunes can automatically save where you were when you exit the app. It also does manual bookmarking. My only complaint is that it often reverted to the last auto bookmark when there was "activity" like a phone call or text message.
Pocket Player also does manual bookmarking.
I've used those two, and I like the Pocket Tunes interface better.
PocketPlayer doesn't appear to be able to download podcasts automatically as they're available, nor on demand - only when you select the podcast to play it (unless I'm missing something). I have HSDPA at home, but not typically while I'm driving...
Pocket Tunes has a nifty feature that allows for automatic delete of a podcast once listened to, but I can't find any other information about it. It also doesn't appear to be able to skip forward or back 10 seconds instead of next/previous track.
Any comments?
I currently use Mortplayer. You can choose a skin which leaves the topbar uncovered. You can even have a skin which superimposes a narrow bar on whatever screen is underneath. Bookmarks work reliably and fast on audiobooks and podcasts. I use AEButton to map the down volume to play/pause (MPpause.lnk - included with Mortplayer) which works even with the screen off. Pause/Resume on phone calls works well. It cannot download podcasts. I use RSShub or MediaMonkey (on the desktop) for this.
Kinoma has a great interface (with it's own topbar, it is full screen) and bookmarks. The free version can stream podcasts, the paid version can also download them. It can also download and play audible.com content, and lots of other sources. Well worth checking out. I found the book marks less robust than Mortplayer, if you didn't exit the player properly it lost them. Also to exit you had to click back about 6 screens to get to the home screen.
Both seem to use a lot of CPU cycles and hence battery. I would like to use TCPMP which seems to use less but can't find a resume/bookmark addon for it. There is an addon for WMP on this forum (search "WMP resume") but it didn't work for me on a Touch HD.
Hope this helps.
Hi there!
I've a huge problem with the music player on the hd2. It stops after EVERY song. I alsways have to turn on the phone and manually hit play or next to play the next sond. That's quite annoying!
It doesn't matter if I select an album, a playlist or whatver. Even if I turn on repeat-mode, the sond is only played once.
Anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution?
I noticed the same thing, and I already updated to 1.48...
There's a partial solution anyway: if you don't press the power off button to activate the stand by mode, but instead if you let stand by mode to activate by itself, it works correctly.
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I noticed the same thing, and I already updated to 1.48...
There's a partial solution anyway: if you don't press the power off button to activate the stand by mode, but instead if you let stand by mode to activate by itself, it works correctly.
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I've had the same thing happen when I let standby mode activate itself, also have an issue where the MP3s stutter, small 1 second breaks in the music.
Few people use the embedded mp3 player coz it's bad and very slow, especially when you have a massive library.
You should try another player: Kinoma (freeplay is free), CorePlayer, Nitrogen (free), etc...
err, starting an extra application for that doesn't sound very attractive to me. Actually I like the fact that this is integrated into sense.
Regarding the speed: I've ~10 GB of music. The HTC player handles them very well
After i read this, i tested it on my device.
The first time the player stopes after the first track,
but if you press play again and you come to the end, then it switch to the next track without a problem and play it.
regards
I have the repeat button on and it doesnt' stop!! And the built in mp3 player is better than WMP because it actually shows chinese characters properly for me... And the interface looks nice...
I noticed the music player in htc sense only looks at the music folder on the storage card, is there any way to add more folders of music or must I insert all my music there and it will automatically be "synced" every time a new song/folder of songs is added?
On mine, the HTC music player looks for all audio files on both the storage card and the phone itself (anywhere in 'My Documents'). It even picks up ring tones I've added and the 'sample' music on the phone. So, I'm not sure if this is a setting of some kind, but mine seems to do what you want, and your's seems to do what I want.
same as you
I have the exactly same problem my friend nd it's irritating. For now, the only solution I have is the use of bluethoot earphones where I can skip the music on it, but as soon as I put classic earphones it does the same problem. I'm gonna try another player I think. it's a pity because HTC player is starting to become gorgeous
track order
Has anyone noticed track order problems. I've started a thread on this. It's really doing my head in.
Same track order problem here. Posted it to HTC-support, they have no solution. Every other player doesn't have this problem.
Okay, so now that I'm committed to the HD2, I'm also committing to fix or remedy the issues I have with the device. I've gotten it to run smoothly, except for the Sense music player.
First, is it normal for it to scan for music every time it's powered on, or unplugged from USB? You would think it would save an "image" of your library to run off while it scans the SD card for new files, but no. Instead, it scans for several minutes, in which time it won't display any artists or albums and lags horribly. Am I missing a setting, or have my library sorted incorrectly? Right now it's setup as root/music/artist/album/mp3, fwiw.
Also, the gap between tracks is terribly annoying. It totally kills mix cd's that are cut into tracks, and ruins the flow of a lot of albums. Is there a way to get rid of this, like the "skip silence" function in iTunes? I knowIf not, is there an app that scans and removes silence from the beginning/end of my mp3's as a batch process? For example, point the app to my music folder, and let it scan/trim silence from each mp3 automatically?
Other than these problems, I really like the music player... but these things are serious dealbreakers for me. If there's no way around them, is there a music player you can suggest that does these things?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I really don't think these things are a lot to ask from a music player, and I'm hoping there's a way to make it happen.
+1 i too has this same issue
Yes, this happens. People have suggested a music player called nitrogen, but I haven't really messed with it to know how good it is or not.
Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Hey, thanks for the help!
I have several mixes ripped as a single track, but it's hardly convenient. I just hope HTC is aware of this, and working on a solution for an upcoming ROM release. I definitely won't be holding my breath, though.
I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
speoples20 said:
I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
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I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
gilla409 said:
I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
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Next try nitrogen and TCPMP