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Hi.
I have tried tcpmp/corelayer and it doesn't quite work, i can live with the directdraw/raw framebuffer, but i can not live withy video not being able to pause. My conclusion is that it has something to do with the Audio, if I set audio to null/disabled the video plays perfect! (pause and so on works!)
But who can watch a movie without the sound?!?!
So my question is, does it exist any other player that can atleast handle vmw and mp4 (ipod format)??
I am trying POcket Player 3.1 right now, but it is nearly the same player as Windows Mobile Player. It experiences the same problems that the builtin windows player does. so i want something else.,..
any ideas?
EDIT: The problem with Coreplayer/TCPMP seems to have vanished with the new update to AKU3.3 that was released some hours ago. So now i can see my movies!
i have now tried tcpmp with ATI Image and IT SEEMS TO WORK!
there are some distortion in fullscreen mode (with ATI Imageon Decoder), but look at the benchmark!, nothing! just plain and simple RAW POWER!!
Benchmark with ATI Imageon Decoder:!!!!! (little blocks apears)
Average speed: 296,42%
Datarate: 1,3 MBIT/s
Benchmark With ATI Imageon: (all fine)
Average speed: 172,32%
Datarate: 740kbit/s
Benschmark with Direct Draw: (all fine)
Average speed: 117,76%
Datarate: 627kbit/s
cybertron said:
Hi.
I have tried tcpmp/corelayer and it doesn't quite work, i can live with the directdraw/raw framebuffer, but i can not live withy video not being able to pause. My conclusion is that it has something to do with the Audio, if I set audio to null/disabled the video plays perfect! (pause and so on works!)
But who can watch a movie without the sound?!?!
So my question is, does it exist any other player that can atleast handle vmw and mp4 (ipod format)??
I am trying POcket Player 3.1 right now, but it is nearly the same player as Windows Mobile Player. It experiences the same problems that the builtin windows player does. so i want something else.,..
any ideas?
EDIT: The problem with Coreplayer/TCPMP seems to have vanished with the new update to AKU3.3 that was released some hours ago. So now i can see my movies!
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I have the same problem with tpcmp it doesn't works fine. I've also tried Smart movie but it doesn't find the codecs. Any suggestion?
PD: Thanx cybertron for your fabulous hack of bt mono sound!
Where 3.3 AKU?
Where is this 3.3 AKU update you mention?
The Blackstone is the first smart/windows mobile phone i have had so after recieving my phone i tried some of my video files but (as i expected) windows media wudn't play them, i have seen on other threads that alot of people mention Core Player 1.2.5 and wondered if anyone could give answer me a few quick questions:
1. Does Core Player play most formats (im trying to play x264.mp4 and dixv .avi)
2. Where can i find Core Player?
3. is it a free program? if not how much is it in GBP?
Go to www.coreplayer.com and see for yourself. I think on their homepage they anwser pretty much all your questions.
Ascenca
Thanks - Don't know why didn't find their site!
I had this problem - Core Player 1.2.5 plays all files perfectly on the HD - commuting will never be the same again...
Which version do i need?
CorePlayer Mobile For PocketPC / Windows Mobile
CorePlayer Mobile for SmartPhone
I assume its the SmartPhone version?
This is the version you need: https://www.mobihand.com/cart1.asp?posid=130&pid=8905
(mobile/WM)
HD is a PocketPC
working
Coreplayer 2,5 works perfectly.The PocketPc version the smartphone one is for devices without touchscreen.
Its a commercial software.
Ideal is to use the Qtv display as video output.
I tried different encoded format and the best result is encode the avi files with following attributes:
dimension 640*480
Bitrate between 700 and 750
Framerate 25fps
Audio MP3
Stereo 128kps
Frecuency 44100 Hz.
You can use a higher bitrate till 1200 , but the video doen't play always very smootly then
I tried a couple widescreen (960x540) files in different formats (wmv, mov, avi) with coreplayer 2.5, and none of them would play anywhere near smoothly. the mov played with about 1.5 fps, the wmv with about 5 fps und the avi with something like 7 fps. do any of the numerous settings in coreplayer need to be changed or is the device simply not powerful enough for full native resolution video playback?
just tried some more videos, this time a 1 MBit/s 480x270 wmv file, and even that couldn't be played in any useful way:
played frames: 85
dropped: 447
did you change anything in the core player settings to achieve proper playback?
obstler said:
I tried a couple widescreen (960x540) files in different formats (wmv, mov, avi) with coreplayer 2.5, and none of them would play anywhere near smoothly. the mov played with about 1.5 fps, the wmv with about 5 fps und the avi with something like 7 fps. do any of the numerous settings in coreplayer need to be changed or is the device simply not powerful enough for full native resolution video playback?
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Firstly, the issue with the video files comes from the fact that they're larger than the resolution of the screen. (your video=960x540, HD=800x460) This means that as well as decoding and playing the video, it also has to scale the video down to it's resolution. This is why it's stuttering. Full native resolution video playback is 800x640 which, incidentally, is the native resolution of DVDs, so if DVD rips have been encoded properly, should not need resizing or re-encoding to play on the HD. (feel free to be skeptical of this, I don't own a HD yet so can't confirm this)
The 1Mbps file possibly wasn't playing properly for that exact reason, it was 1Mbps. As BerreZ states, the highest bitrate to get good playback is 750Kbp
Thanks, got CorePlayer up and running now works like a dream!
I'm waiting for funds to clear so i can finally order one of these bad boys. I'm not too demanding when it comes to video playback on the phone. 700KBPS is the standard encoding of dvd rips isn't it? like, your traditional torrent movie file.So it looks like we can play them on the HD then using coreplayer? I'm not to concerned about HD quality playback and i've been using an XDA2i for 5 years, mainly for clips and such when bored at the bus station .
Maybe with a higher capacity card I might throw a movie or two on there
....IB a n e
BANE said:
I'm waiting for funds to clear so i can finally order one of these bad boys. I'm not too demanding when it comes to video playback on the phone. 700KBPS is the standard encoding of dvd rips isn't it? like, your traditional torrent movie file.So it looks like we can play them on the HD then using coreplayer? I'm not to concerned about HD quality playback and i've been using an XDA2i for 5 years, mainly for clips and such when bored at the bus station .
Maybe with a higher capacity card I might throw a movie or two on there
....IB a n e
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a)Native DVD resolution is not 800x640
b)700Kbps is not the "Standard Encoding" for DVD rips.
bitrate will depend on the size of the encode, the length of the movie.
Apologies, my mistake.
...Ib a n e
Urgh -it's payware. Another cost.
Is there a decent free avi/media player?
One time, I got a cab, but lost it, with some codecs to play divx and other on the Media player. Does anyone knows something like that??
I just purchased CorePlayer. It gave me v1.3.6 not 2.5. Anyway I have tried a divx and avi film. With both I just saw a green haze for a bit and I needed to soft reset the device to recover.
I downloaded the cab not exe and installed it directly onto the device. My films are on storage.
I get a "Copy & Convert" dialogue box with "Convertion (None)" and it seems to do nothing for a while but it does seem to copy the file across ok. What that means is I can see it in explorer. That said it seems to take several runs at it and the bars never go beyond three or so.
Have I just got the wrong resolution?
Any ideas?
I am having a lag problem playing some HD videos on my Xperia with Jack's 3.4 Med rom using Coreplayer 1.3.
Videos I tried:
Transformers 2 HD Trailer (852x355, 2643kbps, 23fps)
The Prodigy-Omen (1000x432, 2663 kbps, 25fps) (800x480, 1200kbps, 25fps)
The highest quality sample at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3045216&postcount=2
Plays all the regular videos/movies fine (Prodigy-Omen at 400x240, 644kbps, 23fps)
I tried directdraw and qtv with tytn II driver mode enabled.
How can I solve the HD playback problem?
Thanks.
EDIT: O MY GOODNESS!
I just saw the sticky on the top of the page...I feel so silly.
Thanks all.
If you are converting the video to mp4, than you should better use WMP, so that you can utilize vga's acceleration. Even with acceleration I really doubt that you can play 852x355, 2643kbps with no lag or missing frames. And if you use coreplayer, than you will get even slower playback performance. I can't even play xvid 640x352 800kbps without frame losses on coreplayer.
CorePlayer can't use hardware video acceleration...
IMO, the best way is to use TouchHD video converter to recode video and use Windows Player to watch them
Windows Player can use hardware video acceleration
thelucius said:
If you are converting the video to mp4, than you should better use WMP, so that you can utilize vga's acceleration. Even with acceleration I really doubt that you can play 852x355, 2643kbps with no lag or missing frames. And if you use coreplayer, than you will get even slower playback performance. I can't even play xvid 640x352 800kbps without frame losses on coreplayer.
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I recode video with touchHD converter and use windows player
I can watch Iron Man ( 800*336, MPEG-4 AVC 0.7 to 1.2Mbps, AAC 2.0 128Kbps) with no loss frames and no lag
At CorePlayer you can change buffering under settings that help a lot
the x1 can hardly handle standard def
Ohhh, thanks for all the tips.
Used TouchHD video converter and did them into MP4 but WMP says it can't load codec, really aching my processors...
Coreplayer plays my videos more smoothly than wmp ever does.
I am trying to play downloaded DVD movies on my Rhodium and i presume its using Windows Media, the playback is sluggish and the sound is not in sync with the playback, is this the best i can expect after spending £500 or is it just that i need another media player? Shooting video and playing back seems fine the problem is when i convert a DVD the playback is pretty appalling, ANY HELP FROM ANYONE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
tHANKS
Allan
What format are the movies you're downloading? What are you using to convert them? Are the downloaded movies in sync? How about the converted ones? If you play them on your PC, are they synced up?
Check the resolution of the movie. Make sure it is 640x480. You don;t want to have the CPU doing all the resizing as the movie is being played. Some format may be better than the others too. And try with WMP. I believe it has hardware acceleration built-in.
Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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amen! lol anyways ya you just arent formating the dvd'rips very well then cause i have a few full dvd's playing in perfect quality and timing on WMP and that's not even the best player to use
Use core player, it works fine with most videos (far better than the standard app)
Vio
try VIO Video Converter for your DVD conversions and select full quality. The file sizes are large but the quality and audio/video sync is superb.
Core Player is great and I consider 640x384 to be the optimal resolution for playback. Get a good video encoder and experiment for yourself though.
Use Super C to resize the video and then coreplayer to play it, no problems at all!
I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
Kloc said:
I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
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What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
barneypooch said:
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
tech_e said:
What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
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It come on the device. HTC Album
i just can't imagine that there is no possibility to play normal divx/avi movies on my tp2 .. just like on pc.
i don't want to waste my time converting all videos just to watch it on tp2 ..
same prob with subtitle support .. can't be that difficult ?! only tcpmp can play them with an extension .. (and that video playback isn't smooth!)
http://kinoma.com/
give that a try and let us know if you are happy or not please
kinoma doesn't support divx/xvid
i use a free program called handbrake and my settings are 480x320,mpeg4,480 biterate-Audio,AAC 160 biterate. i actually used these settings on my G1 originally but when i got my TP2 i tried a few of the movies out since they wur already on my memory card and they all play and sound great on the default player.
im using coreplayer and ive not had a problem playing any movie downloaded from the net. anything from 700mb to 1.6mb dvd rips, ive watched probably 60 odd and they've all played perfectly. never had to convert anything.
coreplayer is definetely the best thing to get supports pretty much everything
i only use the album player for converted hd content (using the converter someone made on this site) = that plays excellent as well, and looks better (i might be ight in thinking album uses hardward acceleration as well)
ranney said:
What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
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Menu > Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Video
Change "Video Output" to GDI if the player is choppy/crappy. On my Telus (CDMA) Touch Pro 2 the QTv Display works fine but I know other HTC devices have required GDI instead.
The playback on this phone sucks big time! Not sure what it is .... coreplayer GDI does not work and Tcpmp with all kinds of tweaks settings does not play videos smooth at all. You can tell there are frame skipping in my phone. My wing plays videos better than this. GEEZ!!!!!
Hi all,
I'm looking to play 720p mkv hi10p videos with embedded subtitles on my Nexus 7. I'll probably want to be doing this by streaming it off a computer or accessing a Samba share.
Does anyone know if this is possible?. Trying to toss up my purchase with the knowledge that its easy / do-able to watch tv shows, movies and things like anime.
Cheers!
I'm just downloading vPlayer to see how it works with my Serviio server. I'll let you know how it goes.
the latest beta VLC player worked for me, was having abit hit or miss with mxvideo player but VLC just played everything i threw at it off my western digital tv live hub.
I tested a 720p hi10p video yesterday using MX Player Pro, no streaming over air.
A couple of frame drops, cannot handle panning scenes very well.
Styled subtitles however look ace, I haven't bothered to check out advanced typesetting though.
Have been exploring the ability on my phone with ES explorer and different media players. 8 bit 720p mkvs work perfectly. 10 bit just falls about for me though on a GNEX with just about every player. Obviously there is a difference in processing power though.
Keen to know if anyone gets it working / how (even if its a solution like PLEX).