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Divx play back performance on the shift under vista

Hi Folks,
I haven't bought the shift yet but I'm certainly leaning heavily in that direction.
Can you please tell me about your experiences playing Divx video using the shift? I'm hearing mixed messages about the video capabilities of the machine some are saying it's no good for this some are saying it's fine which is it?
Please note I'm not talking about utube or wmv I'm talking divx avi files I would like to use this as a media player.
Cheers, Chris

I have the K-lite codec pack installed including Media Player Clasic (K-Lite Mega Codec Pack).
The Divx I used played verry shoothly, I do not exactly know how this file was encoded. It was just an episode of a TV series that I missed and downloaded to watch on the train. (350Mb for 50 minutes...)
Greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

it does play divx well. Never had problems. The real question, can it play mkv files? I'm trying that in windows xp (no chance in vista i suppose) and i get some huge lags between sound and image.

facdemol said:
it does play divx well. Never had problems. The real question, can it play mkv files? I'm trying that in windows xp (no chance in vista i suppose) and i get some huge lags between sound and image.
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Did you try VLC?
Huib
Floreasca, Bucharest

Better use vlc: excellent performance, and no codec pack that can wreak havoc on your system

i've used gome player and media player classic, both configured to use "above average" process priority but no fun. gome has it's own internal codec system, only added matroska mkv codec.
I'll check what VLC has to offer.

I run VLC on my Shift and the only degradation I have seen on it is in full screen mode on the 1024x600 resolution. Definitely recommend VLC on the Shift.

I have a better experience with this:
Use Media Player Classic Home Cinema from here.
It has in the options the "EVR" Video Output which has a better image quality and lower CPU usage under Vista. And the GUI is better than VLC's ^^
And for the codecs I use the ffdshow tryouts.
I recommend clsid's latest Intel Compiler 10 builds, because they have a little performance improvement when using some post-processing filters.

Problems playing .avi on my Touch HD

Hi I've just received my HD and overall I'm very impressed. I was a smartphone user previously so I’m having to come to terms with TouchFlo and Windows Mobile all at the same time!
The only real problem I’m having is playing .avi video. I've transferred an .avi file to my memory card but it won't play in CorePlayer (need the AC3 codec I think) and TCPMP doesn't load (get a crash screen) and mobile divx plays the video but it’s a mess on the screen.
I've even tried to encode the video file with PocketDivXEncoder but I think this needs TCPMP to play and it looks terrible in Mobile Divx.
So my question is how do I successfully play an .avi as this is one of the main reasons I bought my HD.
Also one further question with appointments in the calendar when I get a reminder the notification pop up doesn't appear till I click on the alarm icon at the top of the screen - is this due to touchflo and can you force WM6.1 to always show the notification - I’m finding I’m forgetting about meetings because of this!
Thanks in advance of your help.
JM

I've tried playing avi (divx) files with great success. I have been using CorePlayer (v1.2.5). Maybe you should try another video file? it should work

Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?

JetMouse said:
Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?
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I now see your problem, I had originally tried only avi movies with mp3 audio (like most of my videos). I tested it with a file with AC3 audio and it appears that CorePlayer doesnt have that codec.
Guess your only option with movies with AC3 audio is to convert them, or you might be able to get an AC3 codec somewhere.

So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?

JetMouse said:
So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?
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You could try the freeware video converter program 'SUPER'.
SUPER allows you to convert easily many aspects of a video including size, frame rate, format of video and audio, etc.
I use it all the time to convert my camera videos for use with my Hard Drive TV Media Player.
Don't try and download it from the developers web site it's a minefield in how to get the program.
Instead get it direct from Download.com here:-
http://www.download.com/Super-Video-Converter/3000-2194_4-10277613.html
Beards

I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?

yes please, can handle a typical rip of 350mb tv show or 700mb movie without problems?

Insaneboy said:
I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?
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It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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Could you share the FPS and bitrate please?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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This is exactly whay i'm trying to do - can you tell me which video player you used?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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How did you manage that, mines plays the videos but they are jerky, seems like it's caching the film. I've even tried same file on iphone & hd, iphone was much smoother. what am i doing wrong??
Peter.

I've got to agree here with edwardscdr. I have no problem whatsoever in playing .avi files using Core Player 1.2.5
I believe the problem that others are having is down to what software and system associated files individuals have installed on their Phone. These could be effecting the performance of the playback.
It's a bit extreme but one sure way of finding out the problem is to hard reset the device and install ONLY Core Player (I personally did this when I first received my Touch HD).
Next transfer a video/movie file and play it........ Do you notice any improvements?
If so then at least you know it's down to what was previously installed.
To then eliminate the culprit that was causing the problem is to install software titles one-by-one and on each occasion check the playback of the video.
When it changes and no longer runs smoothly then BANG.... you have your culprit.
Beards

its the ac3, core player can't play it
i wish i can convert the audio via super...

sound can be changed, the audio codecs will show different results when using a different container, im just used to the .mp4 container so i didnt see an audio codec change to mp3

AC3 will play on the old TCPMP beta, the screen is buggy (missing buttons etc) but it does work. If you set up file extensions (in the options settings in both apps) to play on different media players you won't have any trouble (eg: AC3 plays on TCPMP, divx/xvid plays very well on Coreplayer).
The only videos i have trouble playing are in the H264 codec, but that's not a surprise as it is an advanced codec that can make some older desktops slow down.
As far as I am aware, the only media player that takes advantage of hardware acceleration is the built in media player with the HD. For optimum video playback you'd probably want to convert your video files with a third party app into mp4, BUT as an experienced heavy user of video files I find that a combo of Coreplayer, TCPMP and the built in player works just fine for nearly all occasions.
Hope this helps.

the videos are kinda bit pixelated also in tcpmp, the play buttons are center below but u cant see them until u click them ahha

video playback - wmv files, I'm lost

ok guys n gals, I've got some training cbt's that I'm trying to watch on my HD. I can get the sound no problem but I can't get the video to play.
I can watch these on the PC no problem running on WMP v11.
Now so far I've tried to view them on the HTC player, WMP CDivx Player, TCPMP and Coreplayer all do the same. Sound no video.
The only difference is with the Coreplayer throws an error video codec (wmv 9 screen) not supported by the player.
I've tried using the MP4ForHD found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050
to convert these but that software shows video: no video
So I'm now totally confused and being totally thick here , can anyone help or point me in the right direction
cheers

You can try re encoding using "Pocket DivX Encoder" or "Lathe". But it is strange that it works on your computers windows media player and not the mobile.
Which version of the Coreplayer do you have?

coreplayer1.32 touch pro2

hai- i have installed the coreplayer 1.32. everything is fine ^^
everthing? not even everything.- I tried to play WMV9 and there is no sound and blank screen. movie is playing... ???
whats wrong?
wmp is laggy ****. coreplayer dont lag but no WMV9?

Try this here (esp. posts #2 & 3): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290176
Helped me with TCPMP, runs also with Core Player

I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?

Sketch85 said:
I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?
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select one to the RTSP formats. works for most but still not all videos.

hi. i just try to copy the files in windows directory. no way. no video, no audio.
very curios if i download a wmv9 test file and open it with tcmp or corepl it works correctly. but if i wanna stream from maxdome.com it dont work ???
on windows media player it works. there is video and audio!!!!!!
but windows media plaer is laggy in all video formats ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
lag lag lag wmp
anyone ideas?
thx

anyone knows what format and resolution and everything is best for coreplayer on tp2?

Well I tried to open a dvx movie with tcpmp and I could not get anything but few purple lines.... and the pro2 freezed.
The same movie with the same tcpmp works perfecly on my old htc touch!
Any clue?
FD

im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264

combat goofwing said:
im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264
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Same lag and stutters overhere. Any solutions out there allready?
Default mediaplayer suddenly stopped working on my TP2, though the quality was way better then the core player's. Too bad it doesn't work no more.

can anyone help with this after paying for core player it wont play anything with out stuttering along

everything used to lag for me in coreplayer, including videos but if i switch the audio settings to higher priority for mp3 files they play without a hitch. now if only i can find out how to do the same for videos

Add me to the list of VERY unsatisfied results with Coreplayer on the TP2... it absolutely SUCKS. BIG TIME. Laggy and crappy... how is a man suppose to watch all those great videos stuttering!

I had the same issue (laggy, ...) a couple of months ago. I sent an email to CorePlayer support and got this answer back :
"Hello,
This is a known issue and we are working with several people on trying to track it down and are hopeful to have it included with the next release. I can offer you a full refund if you would like.
Regards,
CoreCodec Support Group"
They expect to release the new version by the end of this month.
Just have to wait...
Hope it helps.

Are you using DirectShow? If not, try it.

Great on TP2
Coreplayer is running great on my TP2. Watched 2 movies today and the video looked great and frames were solid. Honestly its the best thing i did for my TP2 yet. I dont believe it will handle 800x480 but a little bit lower resolution should still be fine and the video scales very well. Check this review on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONMuEeTo7A&feature=related
Watch near the end when he shows how Coreplayer runs.

REFUND!!!
So I just sent my refund request for Coreplayer. It has a bug with Tv-Out causing it to show a blue flicker. Also it has no real hardware support yet. The best thing I found was the Touch HD gui encoder program. It puts your videos into formats the built in players can use and those do have hardware support. So while coreplayer is a great app its not for the TP2.

Disable DirectDraw in TCPMP. Use GDI mode.
I am not sure if the following has any effect when DirectDraw is disabled, but this is the way I have it:
Select Options\Settings, then click on "Select page" and select DirectDraw.
You will see three options. Only select the one that says "use blitting instead of overlay"
This worked for me...

HTC Videos vs RockPlayer

I just noticed for the first time that HTC Video supports AVI files. I have been using RockPlayer in Software mode with success, but it kills battery like crazy.
RockPlayer is smoother, but I wonder how HTC's battery use compares.
I will of course find out for myself, but I wonder what other people have experienced
SRS enhancement is a plus

how about vplayer

That will also be software based, so probably the same. The native player should be hardware mode, but is pretty choppy with standard "scene" video files. I'll do a test run this week to see how the battery usage compares

well the native player is hardware accelerated or at least it is for .mp4 with x254 video i havnt tried avi but i would assume that it would also be hardware accelerated or at least the renderer would be. alternative players are usless cause they dont support hardware on the adreno 205 yet

Hardware accelerated yes, but software players are still smoother!

just used "power tutor" to compare power used during one Simpson episode using two players.
According to "power tutor" the Internal video player used about half the power that RockPlayer did (with HW acc enabled)
Yes, I know this is not the perfect comparison.
The total power used should be measured, in case one offloads much more to the hardware than the other one.
An perfect comparison should be:
-boot
-radio off
-start measuring total power consumption
-play video for xx minutes
-stop measuring power consumption.

Guys, how do you manage to play xvid with built in video player?
When I put a video on my SD card, it appears in stock player but with no screenshot, only some weird small icon. Selecting the video does nothing at all.

Eddie1506 said:
Guys, how do you manage to play xvid with built in video player?.
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Who plays Xvid ? - the simpsons episodes are H264 with MPEG4 AAC audio -both preview & playback work fine.
what we need - is players like VLC, core-player or tcpmp for Android. - VLC - being open-source & up-to-date - would be absolutely best.

I think Vplayer.beta is the best so far however it doesn't allow me to change audio channels but it was a lot smoother than rock player when playing a dual audio track; also seems to eat battery life. otherwise rock player is great.

AlCapone said:
Who plays Xvid ? - the simpsons episodes are H264 with MPEG4 AAC audio -both preview & playback work fine.
what we need - is players like VLC, core-player or tcpmp for Android. - VLC - being open-source & up-to-date - would be absolutely best.
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Sorry, my bad