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I plan on purchasing a brand new 7501. I know a new model came out 7510. I already read the differences between the two and currently leaning towards the 7501, because it is cheaper. I don't see the point of paying 500 dollars more just for added memory and a new OS.
As of now, I can only find Amazon.com selling brand new 7501 for 850 dollars.
Now for my questions:
I know it's a year old, isn't too much to pay 850 for it? If any of you guys know a cheaper store, don't hesitate. Let me know.
I know it comes with WM5 OS, does it have a WM6 official OS?
I read up that radio 1.57.00 is the best, which ROM version is the best?
What is the highest capacity micro SD card does it support?
I have not tried ebay yet, to be honest, I am hesitant to buy expensive stuff off ebay.
Any input is appreciated.
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hi there! i see your uni has reached its shelf life... same as mine, I think Im ready to retire it. Im also thinking of getting the athena (dopodu1000) and you're right, the 7510 isnt worth the extra price.
Looking forward to the other athena owners to give inputs to you... as it will help me as well. I suppose the only uni replacement is the Athena hmm?
Good luck
I've had my Athena for ages now and I love the size of the screen and it's power, it's a great device - especially with AP4 ROM, but coming from the Uni you will be disappointed with the keyboard - the one on the uni is great.
Someone here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391485 is advertising one already pimped up if you're interested - caveat emptor and all that.
The 7501 is a great unit for what I got it for which is to use it for mobile internet access, the large screen is clear and easy to read. The keyboard is ....well to cut it short crap, I tend to get the Caps Lock mode for no reason and it is annoying when you find you have typed a couple of lines without noticing!
I use an external keyboard these days, but leave the inbuilt one attached to offer some additional protection while the device is in the case, I purchased a Piel Frama case in green for my unit as I didn't like the case it was supplied with. Sme users have found this aftermarket case a poor fit, mine seems very well made and I am happy with it.
Overall the device is decent, although heavy internet usage using the 3G connection speed which is fast in use hammers the battery, after a couple of hours use you will be looking for somewhere to plug in a charger.
I used the Uni for quite a while and the Athena seemed to be the next logical step, but it is a large device and you should really try and find one in a shop before purchase to see if you like the size and weight of the unit. It will fit in a pocket, but you need large pockets, the only other accessory I purchased was the 4 in 1 cable for the unit to add the capability of USB connectivity and composite video output - Mike
cuteangelika said:
hi there! i see your uni has reached its shelf life... same as mine, I think Im ready to retire it. Im also thinking of getting the athena (dopodu1000) and you're right, the 7510 isnt worth the extra price.
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not to mention the loss of buttons... :C ... actually, I was really holding back for 4 months now. I wanted to know more about its successor before deciding myself, but I can't convince myself to shell out 500 dollars more just for the extra 8 GB and a slightly improved keyboard layout. Now if they improved the processor speed to 700, then maybe they might hook me up for the 7510.
Confucious said:
I've had my Athena for ages now and I love the size of the screen and it's power, it's a great device - especially with AP4 ROM, but coming from the Uni you will be disappointed with the keyboard - the one on the uni is great.
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The size of the screen and power as you mentioned are the best things I like about it too.
Is the AP4 an offial OS? Is it WM5 or WM6?
mikealder said:
I used the Uni for quite a while and the Athena seemed to be the next logical step, but it is a large device and you should really try and find one in a shop before purchase to see if you like the size and weight of the unit. It will fit in a pocket, but you need large pockets, the only other accessory I purchased was the 4 in 1 cable for the unit to add the capability of USB connectivity and composite video output - Mike
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The size does not bother me, coming from an O2 Exec with extended battery, the weight of the Athena might be lighter in comparison.
I plan to use an external BT keyboard and BT mouse, which brand are you using?
I will probably purchase the highest micro SD available too, do you know if it supports SDHC micro SD cards?
I plan to buy a BT headset too. I read the LG HBM-500 with OLED Display and Vibra works well with it.
I might invest on the HTC 4 in one dongle for presentation purposes too.
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I just read the differences between 7500, 7501, 7510 : http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=474
Does this mean the 7501 has no second camera even though it has WM6? Thus no video conferencing capability?
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AP is the Athena Project, AP 4.0 is the latest cooked ROM based on the 7510 ROM and is WM6.1 - not official but you'll be waiting a long tome for WM6.1 to be released on the 7500!
The 7501 has no camera as it was intended for the US market where there is no video calling so the front camera was dropped to save costs or so I believe.
The Athena is about the same weight as an O2 Exec with extended battery (subjectively - I just held one in each hand and they feel the same) but the Athena is quite a bit bigger - hence the gorgeous 5" screen
got mine 7501 after almost a year looking, searching, waiting for the new one. the loss of hardware acess to functions was the main point to stay with the 7501 instead of the new one. the additional memory and improved keyboard (how much?, it will keep being an emergency keyboard!). it's big but very handy due to have everything big on screen, easy to track a message, to hit the right place on the screen, just very handy. I'm using on the original leather cover without the magnetic keyboard to save some volume. for small text input the large letters the softkeyboard pull out on the big screen is reasonable enough. for serious work a cheap and thin USB keyboard connected by the 4x1 cable is perfect. there are no other machine like this to fit in between a cell and a laptop. try one and you will find out. i had several others before, last one the Kaiser but the advantage is really a heavy contender for anyone interested in having a powerhorse at pocket.
I know i'll get flamed on this but
I've done extensive research and reading on x750x series and im sold, im sold to the point i bought one and it comes in tomorrow, its x7501 already unlocked. i've scoured this website, i've read up on all that i can, i know all the procedures all i now need to know is what order do i do them in, the radio 1.57 first then the unlocker? is that right, and do i need to use the athenawrapper at all?
is it two steps or three or four, radio unlocker wrapper
or radio wrapper then unlocker or
just radio and unlocker
or radio, unlocker, wrapper, updater?
just need to know what order, thanks again
i know i'll get flamed on read/search. and i have and im sorry, i just need a reply as to the order.
thank you
and thank you to all those who put the time and effort in for this product, i heard something about android and if all goes well id love to donate to that.
ps as you can see this is my second post
Welcome me! Congratulate me!
I'm officially part of you guys now! =)
Ok, its a long history, but let me recall from my first PDA:
1. Palm IIIc (Color!)
2. HP Jornada (Pocket PC! - Windows! Can play MP3 and has CF slot!)
3. Toshiba e310 (Windows Mobile! Has a SD slot)
4. Wallaby (First Pocket PC Phone Edition), made by HTC, T-Mobile branded
5. Magician (small form factor, PPC was finally same size like regular cell phone)
5. Universal (integrated keyboard, VGA screen, BT, Wifi, camera, etc..)
6. Prophet (tired of carrying bulky Universal and all the tricky part to do simple tasks like answer phone calls etc). Prophet has the best d-pad and hardware buttons. Last edition of HTC made PPC that still has the following: full size SD card slot, Infrared, normal audio jack. After Prophet, everything changed: mini/micro SD slot, no infrared, and no normal audio jack anymore. Prophet is the PPC I use the longest.
7. HTC Touch HD!
Finally, I decided its the time to embrace the HD! I'm so happy and excited holding my Prophet and the HD side by side! I'm surprise with the size of the HD, the weight, and the thickness.
For me, this upgrade will give me:
- Screen expansion, means better reading experience, better typing, better browsing, and playing movies etc.
- Integrated GPS
- Memory upgrade (from my 4GB SD to the 8GB micro SD (or more in the future)
- Processing speed
While still maintain the same weight as the Prophet and slightly thinner, only a bit bigger.
I'm charging it right now, cannot wait to play with it once its fully charged!
My first impression unboxing it:
1. Device-perfect!
2. Micro SD card: thanks HTC for including it. No adapter btw to use it with a normal SD reader, but luckily the HD has USB 2.0 client, so I hope no issue for transferring large files using the USB cable. In my prev PPC, transfer speed was always an issue, so I always use SD reader instead of the USB cable.
3. Pouch... it looks nice, and perfect fit. No problem putting it in and pulling it out.
I tried few times and found no issues. A bit worried before because I read some comments from the posting that mentioned its very hard to take it out from the pouch.
However, when I put the pouch with the HD inside my shirt pocket then took it out, ohhhh... it sticks all the fabric and look like... I don't have a word to describe it.
4. Power adapter... very small, nice! But, it does not have the charging cable, instead it has the USB port. It seems now HTC embrace the same stingy policy like Apple. With only one USB cable included, it means you have to unplug it and bring it along with the charger. No issue for me, I have plenty USB cable, but I can see people that buy a PPC for the first time will have issue to use the same cable for charging with the charger, and for syncing with the PC.
And the plug is British plug. Not sure where to buy the matching one (just the plug) for US. ='( The seller was nice enough to include a British-US adapter in the package, but now the power adapter becomes a big charger like the Lego.
5. HTC includes a "Smart Accessories" brosure!
I open it up, what is listed there?
Stereo headset (with ExtUSB connector) - does not work with HD
Multifunction Audio Cable (with ExtUSB connector) - does not work with HD either
Desktop Cradle (with audio-out port) - does not work with HD either
Oh.... why they simply not consistent make the HD ExtUSB carry also the audio signal?
Ok, that's my comment so far. I'll enjoy my HD! =)
hahahah!
Its like if I am hearing myself!!!
I was also really happy when i got my HD... After a couple of weeks i am still MAJOR IN LOVE with my device!!
The things you can do with your blackstone is uncredible!!
Well have fun with your blackstone!
Nice post.
Welcome to HD HQ.
lie_ui,
I see you live in Texas. I thought the HD was Europe and Asia 3G freqs. Can you use 3G? I really would like to get my hands on one of these but I want the 3G speed. I will be moving to Singapore later this year and was going to wait but your post makes me want to speed up my buy.
Nope. No US 3G. Edge is decent for little web and pushing emails and stuff. Lots of locations actually have WiFi available so its not that bad. Plus with 3G I'd imagine the battery dying a lot quicker.
butro said:
lie_ui,
I see you live in Texas. I thought the HD was Europe and Asia 3G freqs. Can you use 3G? I really would like to get my hands on one of these but I want the 3G speed. I will be moving to Singapore later this year and was going to wait but your post makes me want to speed up my buy.
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sorry to burst your bubble, but this has been addressed 10 milliion times )); no NAM 3G bands... get it early anyway!!
No 3G... yes, I read that too. I was wondering though, what about HSDPA? I thought the HD can do that and doesn't AT&T have HSDPA in a lot of cities? (its fast like 3G, no? Yes? )
i'll put it this way, lol, it's EDGE or GPRS only. that's it.
Hi Bruto,
No, we all know that HD does not support the US 3G, either T-Mobile or ATT. However, both the GSM part for phone service and the EDGE for data service are excellent!
I have been using T-Mobile EDGE for years with my Prophet so I know what to expect.
For me, as long as the important ones working, ie: ActiveSync over the air to sync with the work Exchange, and POP3/IMAP to get personal emails, then the rest like browsing can wait when I get to office/home. Google Map is working fine too, its just a bit slower.
Just let me know if you have any more questions, I'll be happy to answer.
Where did you get yours? What did you pay?
butro said:
I will be moving to Singapore later this year and was going to wait but your post makes me want to speed up my buy.
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All sold out in SIN (Changi Airport) a few days ago, but I expect that prices will drop slightly over the next few months, economy and all...
Btw, you would probably be able to get full 3G in SIN, I would think!
damn shiok
All sold out in SIN (Changi Airport) a few days ago, but I expect that prices will drop slightly over the next few months, economy and all...
Btw, you would probably be able to get full 3G in SIN, I would think!
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Just got mine too, ~4 hours ago from mobile square (Far East Plaza, Singapore).
Played a bit with youtube in the MRT, but 3G certainly not the same everywhere: a bit slow from my HDB (nearby Lakeside MRT).
Hi Bruto,
I got mine from Smart Mobile Gadgets, they based in California.
$750 total (including free shipping).
I ordered mine last Friday and received it yesterday Monday.
I cannot say anything but... excellent service!
(They even put in a British to US adapter, though this makes the charger bulky, but without it, the charger cannot be used here as it has British plug).
http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com...atured_product&product_id=1350&category_id=58
I wanted to order from Clove (UK) but not very confident as I can never be sure how much actually the cost will be, and how long before it come it, plus the possibility of custom issue.
Is their support for this? will a special cable be needed? or will we have this option not available?
Thanks for any info on this
No, not possible.
Have a search of this forum, there has been a few threads about it, and all of them have concluded that you can't.
The HTC Touch Pro had TV-out functionality? Why not the HD2?
The HTC Touch Pro has TV-out functionality? //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417616
Just needed a cable? can the same be done with the HD2?
HD2-crabini said:
The HTC Touch Pro has TV-out functionality? //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417616
Just needed a cable? can the same be done with the HD2?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577338
No, you can't.
I know this post is old, but I have a nexus one and considered going back to WM for the HD2 bc like the OP, i missed the video out. I used it on my tp2 on my car.
I will assume your forum is correct, and for the next guy who googles this, I will explain why, and probably why they don't have it anymore.
HTC used to use a proprietary USB jack on their phones, like the TP TP2 Diamond, etc, that had 5 extra pins on the back side of the USB. This allowed you to use an htc video out cable, or audio cable, to transmit av over the usb cord. this is why you can use any micro USB car charger from a gas station, as I did more often than not, to charge your phone. But you cannot use your HTC charger on a regular micro USB phone. It won't fit other electronics.
Now my guess as to why they cut that option out:
Everyone complained about that proprietary jack. Moving GSM phones to a global charger standard is a hot topic the past year or two. Everyone complains about all the special cords that do the same thing, and I saw it in reviews of all htc phones. Few people understood the reasoning, bc HTC made you buy that cable seperately as I did so most people, especially those new to windows mobile, didn't even think to use their phones for TV out. Those who did know probably didn't buy enough of those cables.
And so HTC changes to micro and mini USB, as all new android and wm htc phones have, 15 people on XDA [including me] complain of losing video out, they lose like 50 dollars in cord sales, and 100,000 bloggers praise them for moving to a standard USB configuration. PR is a win, lol.
IMHO that really sucks. I install car electronics, and I'ld be willing to bet half the people I know who tried out an htc phone did it because they thought it was cool I could watch movies, browse the net, and play games on the screen in my car. I honestly didn't find many practical uses for it but I loved it anyways. Imagine a ps2 emulator playing a racing game with me using my phone as a controller and you'll get the idea. HTC is trying hard to make it to the big leagues, and like Microsoft with WP7, adopting to lower end consumers loses alot of favor with power users like us.
Not to start an argument... but thats why I moved to Android, and thats why my next phone will be the Incredible, video out or EVO 4g which has HDMI out, or samsung galaxy S, which has HDMI out... you get the picture.
trevorwhopkins said:
I know this post is old, but I have a nexus one and considered going back to WM for the HD2 bc like the OP, i missed the video out. I used it on my tp2 on my car.
I will assume your forum is correct, and for the next guy who googles this, I will explain why, and probably why they don't have it anymore.
HTC used to use a proprietary USB jack on their phones, like the TP TP2 Diamond, etc, that had 5 extra pins on the back side of the USB. This allowed you to use an htc video out cable, or audio cable, to transmit av over the usb cord. this is why you can use any micro USB car charger from a gas station, as I did more often than not, to charge your phone. But you cannot use your HTC charger on a regular micro USB phone. It won't fit other electronics.
Now my guess as to why they cut that option out:
Everyone complained about that proprietary jack. Moving GSM phones to a global charger standard is a hot topic the past year or two. Everyone complains about all the special cords that do the same thing, and I saw it in reviews of all htc phones. Few people understood the reasoning, bc HTC made you buy that cable seperately as I did so most people, especially those new to windows mobile, didn't even think to use their phones for TV out. Those who did know probably didn't buy enough of those cables.
And so HTC changes to micro and mini USB, as all new android and wm htc phones have, 15 people on XDA [including me] complain of losing video out, they lose like 50 dollars in cord sales, and 100,000 bloggers praise them for moving to a standard USB configuration. PR is a win, lol.
IMHO that really sucks. I install car electronics, and I'ld be willing to bet half the people I know who tried out an htc phone did it because they thought it was cool I could watch movies, browse the net, and play games on the screen in my car. I honestly didn't find many practical uses for it but I loved it anyways. Imagine a ps2 emulator playing a racing game with me using my phone as a controller and you'll get the idea. HTC is trying hard to make it to the big leagues, and like Microsoft with WP7, adopting to lower end consumers loses alot of favor with power users like us.
Not to start an argument... but thats why I moved to Android, and thats why my next phone will be the Incredible, video out or EVO 4g which has HDMI out, or samsung galaxy S, which has HDMI out... you get the picture.
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trevorwhopkins said:
I know this post is old, but I have a nexus one and considered going back to WM for the HD2 bc like the OP, i missed the video out. I used it on my tp2 on my car.
I will assume your forum is correct, and for the next guy who googles this, I will explain why, and probably why they don't have it anymore.
HTC used to use a proprietary USB jack on their phones, like the TP TP2 Diamond, etc, that had 5 extra pins on the back side of the USB. This allowed you to use an htc video out cable, or audio cable, to transmit av over the usb cord. this is why you can use any micro USB car charger from a gas station, as I did more often than not, to charge your phone. But you cannot use your HTC charger on a regular micro USB phone. It won't fit other electronics.
Now my guess as to why they cut that option out:
Everyone complained about that proprietary jack. Moving GSM phones to a global charger standard is a hot topic the past year or two. Everyone complains about all the special cords that do the same thing, and I saw it in reviews of all htc phones. Few people understood the reasoning, bc HTC made you buy that cable seperately as I did so most people, especially those new to windows mobile, didn't even think to use their phones for TV out. Those who did know probably didn't buy enough of those cables.
And so HTC changes to micro and mini USB, as all new android and wm htc phones have, 15 people on XDA [including me] complain of losing video out, they lose like 50 dollars in cord sales, and 100,000 bloggers praise them for moving to a standard USB configuration. PR is a win, lol.
IMHO that really sucks. I install car electronics, and I'ld be willing to bet half the people I know who tried out an htc phone did it because they thought it was cool I could watch movies, browse the net, and play games on the screen in my car. I honestly didn't find many practical uses for it but I loved it anyways. Imagine a ps2 emulator playing a racing game with me using my phone as a controller and you'll get the idea. HTC is trying hard to make it to the big leagues, and like Microsoft with WP7, adopting to lower end consumers loses alot of favor with power users like us.
Not to start an argument... but thats why I moved to Android, and thats why my next phone will be the Incredible, video out or EVO 4g which has HDMI out, or samsung galaxy S, which has HDMI out... you get the picture.
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The Touch Pro series had video out built in to the hardware on purpose and was advertised as having it. Not all HTC phones with mini-usb had video-out. And I'm pretty sure I was able to use my mini-usb charger from my touch-pro on any mini-usb phone or device.
Micro SD Adapting Port - Preview slides on PDA/Smartphone
HD2-crabini said:
Is their support for this? will a special cable be needed? or will we have this option not available?
Thanks for any info on this
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There is an accessory. Model: SDV-842
Manufactured by Spectec - Taiwan.
http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdv.htm
http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdv842.htm
Will it work for HD2 ?
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SDV-842 - Special Features:
Micro SD Adapting Port
Preview slides on PDA/Smartphone,
Output support at a maximum reslolution of 1024X768
Continuously loop through slide show store multiple presentations
VGA, S-Video, AV Ports for Monitor, Projector, TV and VCR
Remote Control Enabled.
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Ok This is old thread and I never posted before on XDA developers, tho been rom'ing my old hx4700 for some time thanx chaps.
As to video out,
I found that I can connect the HD2 to a WD TV live and play the media on my HD2 on to tv no problems.
Plus it charges my phone same time
This maybe not what u want but hey its a start.
Btw set the HD2 to disk
Bye
trevorwhopkins said:
I know this post is old, but I have a nexus one and considered going back to WM for the HD2 bc like the OP, i missed the video out. I used it on my tp2 on my car.
I will assume your forum is correct, and for the next guy who googles this, I will explain why, and probably why they don't have it anymore.
HTC used to use a proprietary USB jack on their phones, like the TP TP2 Diamond, etc, that had 5 extra pins on the back side of the USB. This allowed you to use an htc video out cable, or audio cable, to transmit av over the usb cord. this is why you can use any micro USB car charger from a gas station, as I did more often than not, to charge your phone. But you cannot use your HTC charger on a regular micro USB phone. It won't fit other electronics.
Now my guess as to why they cut that option out:
Everyone complained about that proprietary jack. Moving GSM phones to a global charger standard is a hot topic the past year or two. Everyone complains about all the special cords that do the same thing, and I saw it in reviews of all htc phones. Few people understood the reasoning, bc HTC made you buy that cable seperately as I did so most people, especially those new to windows mobile, didn't even think to use their phones for TV out. Those who did know probably didn't buy enough of those cables.
And so HTC changes to micro and mini USB, as all new android and wm htc phones have, 15 people on XDA [including me] complain of losing video out, they lose like 50 dollars in cord sales, and 100,000 bloggers praise them for moving to a standard USB configuration. PR is a win, lol.
IMHO that really sucks. I install car electronics, and I'ld be willing to bet half the people I know who tried out an htc phone did it because they thought it was cool I could watch movies, browse the net, and play games on the screen in my car. I honestly didn't find many practical uses for it but I loved it anyways. Imagine a ps2 emulator playing a racing game with me using my phone as a controller and you'll get the idea. HTC is trying hard to make it to the big leagues, and like Microsoft with WP7, adopting to lower end consumers loses alot of favor with power users like us.
Not to start an argument... but thats why I moved to Android, and thats why my next phone will be the Incredible, video out or EVO 4g which has HDMI out, or samsung galaxy S, which has HDMI out... you get the picture.
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Couldn't have said it better any other way. Otherwise the HD2 would be my phone for a couple of years more because it is an awesome phone!
Signature way out dated -_-*,
First Windows 8 phone revealed, from i-mate:
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/brier...-8-pc-phone-revealed-plus-tablet-and-desktop/
4.7" screen Windows 8 Pro, and runs atom processor.
Look forward to seeing reviews and seeing how well the phone/messaging capability is on this.
We will see more of these, especially when Intel releases a 22nm atom later this year. And some ARM ones with Windows RT.
(Follow up to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226360)
CSMR said:
First Windows 8 phone revealed, from i-mate:
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/brier...-8-pc-phone-revealed-plus-tablet-and-desktop/
4.7" screen Windows 8 Pro, and runs atom processor.
Look forward to seeing reviews and seeing how well the phone/messaging capability is on this.
We will see more of these, especially when Intel releases a 22nm atom later this year. And some ARM ones with Windows RT.
(Follow up to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226360)
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If you can get that setup for $1600, I'd be impressed. Nice business solution if you ask me...
it won't sell, because its a proprietary dock, for one phone only.
needs to be a STANDARD wireless charging base (mac mini sized) with vga/sound/mic/hdmi/etc out the back, so regular peripherals can be used. large enough to charge 2-3 phones at once, is a good idea too.
dlna to dock, hdmi/vga to screen, etc
now, as far as convincing people to buy windows 8, I have no idea how.
ohgood said:
it won't sell, because its a proprietary dock, for one phone only.
needs to be a STANDARD wireless charging base (mac mini sized) with vga/sound/mic/hdmi/etc out the back, so regular peripherals can be used. large enough to charge 2-3 phones at once, is a good idea too.
dlna to dock, hdmi/vga to screen, etc
now, as far as convincing people to buy windows 8, I have no idea how.
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You want a Dock with a wireless charging base, VGA/HDMI, Audio in out all coming out of the dock. designed around all phones and indeed work with multiple phones at the same time.
So we can explain audio with Bluetooth, and DNLA with wifi but how my friend, do you explain your VGA/HDMI out? how do you charge it if your don't have a inductive phone? or do you want all phones to have inductive charging wireless VGA and HDMI output as well?
the concept of a docking station for a specific phone is a tried and tested model and is routinely used on laptops and tablets, these devices are far from "universal" one can argue that there has never been a universal docking station, simply because there are far too many designs and technologies to take in to account. The beloved Apple are the worst for this, buy any ipod dock and youll find as many adaptors and connectors stuffed in to the box to "make" it compatible as there are iphone covers in cheap arse phone stores.
I think the idea of having a phone that's so powerful that can be plugged in to a tablet case, laptop case, home entertainment system is a great concept, itll never happen but if a unified connectivity model could be made up then even better, the problem with such things is space, yes you can transmit HDMI wirelessly, but its heavy on juice consumption, far heavier than what induction charging can deliver.
I see what your saying and that would be ideal but practicalities will prohibit a universal dock, a set of docks available for your specific phone however is a great idea and one id sign up to.
As the article says, it is not going to be a 'stand alone' phone, but part of a 'hub' system. So it doesn't need to have a 'standard' docking or wireless charging system...
I think it's an interesting idea. Let's see if i-Mate pull this off!!!
dazza9075 said:
You want a Dock with a wireless charging base, VGA/HDMI, Audio in out all coming out of the dock. designed around all phones and indeed work with multiple phones at the same time.
So we can explain audio with Bluetooth, and DNLA with wifi but how my friend, do you explain your VGA/HDMI out? how do you charge it if your don't have a inductive phone? or do you want all phones to have inductive charging wireless VGA and HDMI output as well?
the concept of a docking station for a specific phone is a tried and tested model and is routinely used on laptops and tablets, these devices are far from "universal" one can argue that there has never been a universal docking station, simply because there are far too many designs and technologies to take in to account. The beloved Apple are the worst for this, buy any ipod dock and youll find as many adaptors and connectors stuffed in to the box to "make" it compatible as there are iphone covers in cheap arse phone stores.
I think the idea of having a phone that's so powerful that can be plugged in to a tablet case, laptop case, home entertainment system is a great concept, itll never happen but if a unified connectivity model could be made up then even better, the problem with such things is space, yes you can transmit HDMI wirelessly, but its heavy on juice consumption, far heavier than what induction charging can deliver.
I see what your saying and that would be ideal but practicalities will prohibit a universal dock, a set of docks available for your specific phone however is a great idea and one id sign up to.
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you know the answers to the questiions already... if the phone isn't inductive charge capable, well, it misses out. (I screwed up suggesting vga out, yes)
is the dock to be tossed out when the next phone is released, or microsoft abandons the current os, forcing hardware upgrades ?
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geddeeee said:
As the article says, it is not going to be a 'stand alone' phone, but part of a 'hub' system. So it doesn't need to have a 'standard' docking or wireless charging system...
I think it's an interesting idea. Let's see if i-Mate pull this off!!!
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ya, that was part of my point. the docking system is physically bound to only one phone model. a change of phones means the dock is obsolete. that's why I suggested a inductive version instead.
Re: Docks. You can do a lot with mini-displayport and micro-usb, which should fit on a superpowered phone. Or thunderbolt would work as a universal connector - thunderbolt out to a dock.
But what is more interesting to me is having a full windows OS on a phone. Windows Phone 8 still has a lot of core features missing, while Windows 8 does not have these gaps. Just add phone and messaging capability to Windows 8 and you will have an excellent OS for power users.
Hopefully there will be more of these phones when Intel finally moves Atom to 22nm later this year.
CSMR said:
Re: Docks. You can do a lot with mini-displayport and micro-usb, which should fit on a superpowered phone. Or thunderbolt would work as a universal connector - thunderbolt out to a dock.
But what is more interesting to me is having a full windows OS on a phone. Windows Phone 8 still has a lot of core features missing, while Windows 8 does not have these gaps. Just add phone and messaging capability to Windows 8 and you will have an excellent OS for power users.
Hopefully there will be more of these phones when Intel finally moves Atom to 22nm later this year.
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yesssss, that's what wp7/8 were supposed to do: bridge the gaps, the pc/phone in one.
but, now you have wp, surface/rt, w8 and their versions also. fragmentation, not integration.
oh, and xbox... office... very odd way of doing things.
huawei ascend w1
i recently bought the huawei ascend w1 and does anyone know how to disable the shutter sound ?
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i recently bought the huawei ascend w1 and does anyone know how to disable the shutter sound ?
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Settings>Ringtones + Sounds> uncheck "Camera shutter" box
Shutter sound
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Settings>Ringtones + Sounds> uncheck "Camera shutter" box
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Hi. I don't have a checkbox to turn the shutter sound off. I know my old Windows 7 phone had the option, but nothing on this one.
I'd love to turn it off because the default sound is horrible.
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Settings>Ringtones + Sounds> uncheck "Camera shutter" box
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Just purchased an O2 version, same here there is no Camera shutter box to uncheck.
Well, I've had the HTC Shift since it came out in late 2007. I'm not a fan of this throw-away society, so I carried on managing my HTC Shift, moving through Vista to Windows 7 and then 10. I used all the tricks to minimise memory and CPU usage to keep it up to speed. It has been a brilliant little typing machine, and as far as I am concerned it still rules Starbucks!
Well yesterday I noticed that the charger has developed a poor connection within the wire itself, so its days are numbered. While the computer itself is still working I'm not sure if I will ever find a working replacement charger - I am aware that certain manufacturers deliberately make their machines very fussy about the power supply to force people to buy the official chargers. So I suspect that whatever alternative chargers that I try in the future may well not work. So this could be it - the last few with my HTC Shift. What a shame this little jem didn't develop to be a collectors' item.
This forum has been absolutely brilliant, and has remained so despite the numbers dwindling down over the years, which is to be expected. A special thanks to all those amazing people who made the ROMs for the Windows Mobile end. I always had great fun with that, watching youtube on the train for hours while most people were stlll playing snake.
EDIT: Nevermind - the first power adapter that I tried works! I was anticipating a far more problematic process. My Shift is back in use