[Gizmodo] Flash Player 10.1 and the Nexus One's Battery Life - Nexus One General

heres an article on how flash effects the N1 battery life, with a video
showing the results.
http://gizmodo.com/5479523/flash-player-101-and-the-nexus-ones-battery-life

Steve Jobs: "Flash would reduce battery life to 15%".

MvP77 said:
heres an article on how flash effects the N1 battery life, with a video
showing the results.
http://gizmodo.com/5479523/flash-player-101-and-the-nexus-ones-battery-life
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3 hours of continuous YouTube over WiFi. I wonder what you get with the stock app? I would assume about the same...
And that sounds damn good to me, bring on the flash!

I think this video shows the real reason apple doest want flash
http://vimeo.com/9596010

Having recently flashed the Modaco desire rom, and went back to cyanogen's latest, the flash player in that rom is NOT the 10.1 version that's GPU optimized.
Take a look at the framerates these guys are getting in this video! http://vimeo.com/9596010
Very very impressive! Wish the player would leak out or come out soon!!
As a professional animator who's made 95% of his income using flash over the years, all I can say is.. WOOOOOTTT!!!

cartoonmonkey said:
Having recently flashed the Modaco desire rom, and went back to cyanogen's latest, the flash player in that rom is NOT the 10.1 version that's GPU optimized.
Take a look at the framerates these guys are getting in this video! http://vimeo.com/9596010
Very very impressive! Wish the player would leak out or come out soon!!
As a professional animator who's made 95% of his income using flash over the years, all I can say is.. WOOOOOTTT!!!
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yeah on that same blog they said it was flash lite
http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/23/redmond-pie-and-the-farmville-test/

MvP77 said:
I think this video shows the real reason apple doest want flash
http://vimeo.com/9596010
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Read the by-line bellow the video talking about the fact it isn't an accurate depiction of battery life, and then gives a link to your original article for what the true batter life is.

pjcforpres said:
Read the by-line bellow the video talking about the fact it isn't an accurate depiction of battery life, and then gives a link to your original article for what the true batter life is.
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In a way, he's right. People would start playing online flash games and wouldn't put so much money in Steve's pocket...

pjcforpres said:
Read the by-line bellow the video talking about the fact it isn't an accurate depiction of battery life, and then gives a link to your original article for what the true batter life is.
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yeah, i was saying they dont want it because of the free games and videos. No need to buy from itunes if you got flash games and hulu .
P.S. i get about 4hrs on my ipod touch watching video, the iphone cant be much better so whats the big deal. I think the battery life on the N1 will be fine with flash.

engadgets take
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/flash-10-1-might-not-be-a-battery-hog-on-android/

They all seem to agree that battery consumption (take in mind on a unoptimized version) is in line with normal usage. As in, with WiFi and the screen on for a lot longer, no duh battery would get killed quicker. Its not that the flash plugin is killing battery, its just that the phone is just being used more. I can live with these unoptimized times knowing theyll only get better as they develop it more.
Apple just doesn't want to admit that they are ****ing wrong. HTML5 is not relelvent for the next few years. Consumers want whats available NOW. Not what is coming...something Apple fails to realize to the max.

Ah, sorry, lack of cadence in the written word causes some misunerstanding from time to time. I get ya!
And I totally agree, I would love flash 10.1 and getting 3 hours of continuous WiFi data based youtube play back! IMHO, that is pretty damn amazing!

Here is something about Flash vs HTML5
- Does HTML5 Really Beat Flash? The Surprising Results of New Tests
- Flash Player: CPU Hog or Hot Tamale? It Depends.

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My take on 2.2 update after using all day

So far, A+. Not a really huge update, but well worth it. Overall smoother, Big difference in video quality and audio. flash works good. Battery life better.
How do i post video's? (says invalid file type) sorry kind of a dummy
How would you describe the video quality? I did some in-house testing with mine and found it to be pretty weak still...no empirical testing though. I was mainly interested to see if we could get rid of the damn chop when in lower light settings (not that low though).
I thought the choppiness was much better. I set to H.264.
I have 2 short comparison videos, if I can figure out how to upload!
yeah I've heard the H.264 is pretty good now but the real deal is the 720p and it SUCKS still. I mean who wants to go around saying "You want to see my H.264 video recorded on my phone?" No....I want to say "hells yeah, 720p looks damn good now!".
Anyways, maybe we will get 720p on H.264 soon!
I give up. If you want to see the video's go to:
youtube. search 1970dca
Updated to rooted deodexed 2.2, its great, but I can't find the tapatalk pro app in market... can anyone else confirm this?
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svinyard said:
yeah I've heard the H.264 is pretty good now but the real deal is the 720p and it SUCKS still. I mean who wants to go around saying "You want to see my H.264 video recorded on my phone?" No....I want to say "hells yeah, 720p looks damn good now!".
Anyways, maybe we will get 720p on H.264 soon!
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This is a work in progress... check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7390531&highlight=xml#post7390531
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So far, A+. Not a really huge update, but well worth it. Overall smoother, Big difference in video quality and audio. flash works good. Battery life better.
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well i will have to say using wifi and gps on all day i am setting at 13 hours unplugged and still have half of the battery.
when i was on 1.32 i could not get more then about 4 hours of use from it. so i am happy with that. i hope that on tue. that it gets even better.
but as far as everything else no issue here.
My battery life has seemed to drop off drastically. Almost back to as bad as it was with 1.32. I can almost watch my battery drop. hopefully tuesday official release fixes this.
My battery life suck as well going to 2.2. The signal/ reception is terrible for me as well with 2.2. Definately hope the "Official release" is better or I'LL be rooting.
2.2
my battery life is still puke even on 3g but my signal strength has improved greatly. i use to never, and i mean never, be able to connect to 4g at my house. since flashing 2.2, not only does it connect, i also get 4-5 megs down
My battery life is a lot worst now. but I can now connect to and use 4G. Before, i can see the 4G sign for like 15 sec and then it would disappear.
I get great battery life now and 4g. I am loving the leaked 2.2. I am looking forward to the official Froyo so people will work on the root again. Not that I need it especially, but wouldn't mind having it just to delete the Sprint stuff.
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How come everyone has gotten this update but me?!?! I just checked manually and it said there were no updates found. WTF
sloth3 said:
How come everyone has gotten this update but me?!?! I just checked manually and it said there were no updates found. WTF
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Not a lot of people have, I think maybe one or two people claim they've gotten it from a pull. Wait for 8/3 to get the official release, it will be less likely to brick your phone or have bugs. I've been checking since Friday.
There's also a bug where any notifications or Google Navigation voice prompt kicks in, your music pauses and does not resume. Did not happen in 2.1
I love how people are crying about the 2.2 update that they downloaded and installed and was told by HTC and Sprint that it was not the official update. I want to know if anybody in this thread that is crying about the update got there update OTA. If they did, I will take what I said back, if not, quit your *****ing about a non-official update.
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There's also a bug where any notifications or Google Navigation voice prompt kicks in, your music pauses and does not resume. Did not happen in 2.1
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that is an annoying bug . had to go back to 2.1 until I was done with my road trip
Same here, battery life has been noticably worse with the leaked update.
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I love how people are crying about the 2.2 update that they downloaded and installed and was told by HTC and Sprint that it was not the official update. I want to know if anybody in this thread that is crying about the update got there update OTA. If they did, I will take what I said back, if not, quit your *****ing about a non-official update.
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Somebody pee in your corn flakes?

What should i expect?

I just brought an Atrix. Its coming in the postage and well initially i read reviews from Engadget and such. But what im a to expect? Is the battery life really that great? Oh and i plan to root the device, how do i go about doing that?
So yeah, Im new to android and moving over from WP7.
Personally I miss WP7. I had a focus, but I am more than happy with the Atrix. A lot of the issues people mention here are things that I do not get or notice. I can see the pixels on the screem, but only if I really try to look for them.
One thing the Atrix kills WP7 in is games. I'm playing Galaxy on fire 2 and History Channel Great Battles; they are great and rival my PS3.
I have a HTC trophy, and it really is a let down. Battery life is poor. Lasting maybe 7 hours when idle and when im using it throughout the day, usually it will last for about 4 hours. Camera isnt great, games are really awkward to play, oh and the speaker is crackles regardless of how loud it is. I will admit i do like the music player, the photoviewer and overall UI is really nice. But im sure i can customize android to the same standard. Right? Though, I heard atrix is alot smoother when playing games, but i dont know if it could rival my ps3 haha
I'll be getting one soon as well. can't wait
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your username is perfect OP
I too came from WP7 (lg quantum) and I tell you the Atrix is amazing I've never had any of the issues people reported and the battery really is that great. If you properly charge it from day one (drain the battery then let it charge for a day, and repeat) the battery will be amazing I no lie get around 14hrs of useage and im constantly youtubing, texting, downloading some game or playing a game, but using setcpu I have it underclocked at 816mhz but even at full I would get 10-12 hours of use. And as far as root. My favorite method is gladroot. Its clean neat and seems to work throughout updates.
But thats just my 2 cents
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Thanks Guys, I really cant wait to get my hands on it. Battery life is a big issue with me, considering my phone was at 50% by 8:30 in the morning, and i had only taken it off the charger at 7ish. But to be fair, i had been on youtube and reddit for the hour and a bit. And I learnt today that my speaker doesnt work, its now just plain static. How lovely.
Atrixx said:
I just brought an Atrix. Its coming in the postage and well initially i read reviews from Engadget and such. But what im a to expect? Is the battery life really that great? Oh and i plan to root the device, how do i go about doing that?
So yeah, Im new to android and moving over from WP7.
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I use GladRoot because many have had problems with Gingerbreak doing funny things.
You will probably want to get an extra micro usb charger.
WiredPirate said:
I use GladRoot because many have had problems with Gingerbreak doing funny things.
You will probably want to get an extra micro usb charger.
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I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
Atrixx said:
I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
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There are roms
Atrixx said:
I heard motorola has a signed bootloader. Which means no Roms, right? But what else does it limit me doing? But thanks, I probably will use Gladroot.
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There are no custom ROMs or custom kernels available for the Atrix at the moment, there are "pseudo ROMs" that apply themes and hacks etc but still use the Motorola kernel. Supposedly 2nd init will open the door for some true ROMs/kernels in the future, but there is no eta. Dont hold your breathe for an unlocked bootloader like many are doing, there is no reason to expect one. I love CM7 on my Captivate and before that I flashed every ROM to the moon and back.. Hands down the Atrix is a better piece of hardware and is much more of a reliable phone out of the box. I am much more happy with the Atrix in its current state than I ever was with my Captivate running any custom ROM.
Edit: I stand corrected. It seams there is an unlocked bootloader solution being offered by Moto now is some countries and/or on a few leaked builds. Fingers crossed Moto/Att push this update to us also! But as of right now there is no official word. Only speculation and word passed from ear to ear.

Nexus 4 on Android 4.1

Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?
furyoflight1029 said:
Anyone tried flashing v. 4.1 on Nexus 4? Perhaps it might be more battery efficient?
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Cupcake and Donut had the best batterylife :silly:
you not getting great battery life?, the nexus 4 is great with JB, try franco kernel for improvement, i got an extra 1.5 hours screen time due to it.
Nexus 4 only supports 4.2 and upwards
Find a 2.1 ROM for the Nexus One and flash it to the Nexus 4. The battery life will blow your mind.
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I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.
Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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plznote said:
Flash cupcake, bricks usually get pretty good battery life.
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pretty sure it does. battery life will probably last forever.
furyoflight1029 said:
I'm indeed getting a pretty good battery life on 4.2.2. I'm getting an average of 4 hours + screen on time, which is a huge improvement over my S2. It's just that the video playback/web browsing seems less efficient, in comparison to the Optimus G which has similar hardware.
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Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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It has been proven multiple times that the optimus g and other devices with similar hardware have way better battery life than the nexus 4. just look for some battery benchmarks.
Furthermore, 4.2 seems more resource heavy than 4.1 was, which again leads to a higher CPU, along with other stuff, usage, which in the end results in worse battery life.
Whatever it is, there is a difference between the optimus g and the nexus 4.
estallings15 said:
Your logic is painfully flawed. A completely different group of engineers/software designers created the software for the Optimus G. IF it is indeed more "efficient," (which, by the way, where is your evidence?) it is NOT due to the version of Android used. They simply spent more time optimizing the libs and apks for the hardware. Again, that's a big IF.
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First of all, I was only giving an opinion; i did say "seems", did i not? I don't need to prove anything to you, because it has already been proven. Search endurance rating for both phones. You make it sound like I was trying to start an argument, well, I'm not. I only wanted to know, the so called "IF" it will actually improve battery life. Seeing that you're an active member of this forum, I assumed you would know, that Android version used does indeed affect battery life. If you're not posting anything helpful (like the few peeps above, for the sake of trolling), then please don't.
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just look for some battery benchmarks.
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You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..
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You would be terrible as a lawyer. You're the one trying to prove a case here.. You submit evidence to your peers for review when trying to prove your case. You don't instruct them to go hunting for the evidence for you. It really eliminates this whole back and forth thing if you just put all your cards out of the table at once. If the cards don't exist then let's just let this issue rest eh? In the end no one cares anyway..
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I'm not a lawyer and this isn't a lawsuit. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.
I stated that there are enough evidences out there which can be found easily with a simple Google search. If someone is interested in refuting my statements, he can go ahead and do so. I'm not going to spoonfeed everything.
I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!
Zorachus said:
I am getting 5 hours On Screen time, consistently. Overall battery life anywhere from 11 -14 hours total on busy workdays, to 15 - 24 hours on light days.
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ROM? Kernel? Please
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nschiwy said:
Yeah, I have no clue why you would be needing better battery life out of this phone. On 4.2.2 I get all day and then some with lots of screen on time. I don't even have to worry about making it through the day with this phone. For the record, there is not going to be a kernel for the Nexus 4 that is compatible with anything lower than 4.2 so it's a futile effort to begin with. You could flash anything you wanted to your phone and then bask in the glory that is a soft-bricked phone. Like someone said above, a bricked device tends to get great battery life!
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Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?
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Look, why did you get a Nexus phone to begin with? Updates. What are updates? Improvement. Yes, it can last a day but it depends on you do. It's quite acceptable, until you try streaming movies. 1% gone per min. I know video playback isn't its strongest point but isn't it good to know you're not stuck in only one direction? Knowing that there are alternatives? Isn't that what this forum was meant for?
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I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.
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I'm sorry but regardless of how you try to justify it, downgrading isn't the answer to your problem. If you want to get better battery life out of your device (and I do understand that if you're watching a lot of Netflix on it that you would need more battery) then you're going to want to flash a custom ROM or Kernel or both. Franco.kernel is probably the most efficient kernel for stock. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782 ) Like I said before, there isn't a kernel that exists for the Nexus 4 that will run with 4.1 so you may as well explore other options. I guess the reason everyone here is being so sarcastic and everything is that it's such a noobish question and yet everyone is seemingly defending it to the death. There's nothing wrong with asking questions but you shouldn't argue with people who are more informed than yourself.
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I was aware of the fact that older versions are incompatible, which was why I joked too. But, I'm not aware of whether 4.1 would be compatible since it's still relatively new. I think you misunderstood, I wasn't defending the title; simply arguing with some of the things people said, like estallings15 and you. You may be more knowledgeable about this than I'm, but by no means, would i have to agree that searching for new ways, to improve my battery life is bad.
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ROM? Kernel? Please
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Just checked my stays right now. 5h 32m On Screen time. Total time off charger 12 hours. Battery at 19%
I get 5h + On Screen time every day.
Xylon ROM 02-23 build + Matrix kernel v7.0
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[Q] Is this the best phone for 400€?

As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
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The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
Exactly the switch I made XS->Find5. I thought about getting the HTC One or the S4, but since I planned on running a custom ROM, I didn't want to pay for features I wouldn't use anyway.
Regrets? No. The Find5 has a Sony Sensor as camera, AFAIK the same as in the XZ. On stock ROM, the cam is pretty good, not so much on custom ROMs, though, usual closed source binary blob problems.
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As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
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Hi!
If you are looking a brand new one, maybe this is the one with best camera for this price (I dont know anything about Nokia and WP) you can buy for that amount.
If you dont mind, maybe you can take a Xperia Z (same sensor, but better app) in the second market.
P.S: Yes, this is my first post in about 3 years LOL! (I prefer reading)
Regards from sPAIN
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The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
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at the beggining i was thinking about xperia z (i'm a huge fan of the xperia line) or htc one (i don't like the samsung plastic), but i reconsidered that ... 550€ or more for a phone? i think it´s to much, so i stablished the 400€ limit, and for that money, and new phones (not used) i'm in between nexus 4 or the oppo find 5 ( i believe they are the only with superb specs and not so expensive phones ). But the nexus 4 is 4.7 inch screen, and an 8mp camera ( but i guess the 8mp i just a number).
3 things that i consider in a phone : camera; battery; development.
So, what you guys say?
If camera is a priority then you may be better looking elsewhere.
The Find 5 camera is OK in good light but struggles otherwise. My wife has a Nexus 4 and I don't rate that camera either.
-- From my Find 5
I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!
CodeX86 said:
I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!
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so the camera is worst than an xperia s?
vitorugo-8 said:
so the camera is worst than an xperia s?
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Never had the chance to compare to a Xperia S.
But for the claims made by their commercial it doesn't live up to the promise.
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kinghu said:
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
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I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
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Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!
so, in conclusion, despite the problems with the camera ( which i think it's a software problem, not hardware ) for 400€, and with a custom rom, the oppo it's the best phone on the market?
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Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!
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Thank you very much for the answer!
camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.
grudas said:
camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.
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uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?
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uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?
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stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.
Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
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Sorry just saw this... I've tried most of the stock/beta ROMs and as a light to moderate user, it lasts me about 24-36 hours. Without faux kernel I would get around 3 to 3.5 hours screen on (email, twitter, browser, Tapatalk, watching a TV show, taking pics/video and a few calls).
With faux setup for battery life, I can get 4.5 to 5 hours doing the same stuff and there isn't really a performance hit as I'm not doing much needing the phone to run at full speed for long.
It was really the idle drain that was killing it at around ~1.5%-2% per hour rather than ~0.8% with faux. Usually, I'm on wifi and have GPS on and leave them on when sleeping so it was overnight that saw a big improvement.
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stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.
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Yeah I used Stock to for a while and when you do close ups the camera makes some pretty nice pictures. But as soon as contrasts aren't really there anymore it gets potentially noisy.
I mean how much can you really expect from a smartphone camera sensor without any optics to adjust depth.
Your pictures are nice. I made some nice ones myself but they don't measure up to HTC One's Ultrapixel contrast and light condition abilities.
Funny part about all of this is probably that drivers neither on Stock or Custom are really optimized.
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.
CodeX86 said:
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.
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After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441
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After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441
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Yeah and you will have to lay a little more weight on chinese open beta...

YouTube now supports 1440P resolution for our gorgeous G3 screen

Just installed this apk from android police and type a search for 1440P videos. Go in the to settings for the video and switch the resolution and you'll now see an option for 1440P. Watched a video on it and it looked very detailed and crisp. Crystal clear. Enjoy!
Article below
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...roid-delivers-number-playlist-related-tweaks/
Download the apk below:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=...731847fd95a6f5463e9fa2bfd8e492e0ec58d86d98799
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Also here is a beautiful video playing in 1440P. The detail is incredible. I appreciate this screen more and more. Just compared the video on my wife's iPhone screen compared to the g3 and it really blows it away.
4K Demo UHD 1440p:
http://youtu.be/11zf7Y5tUbM
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bustinstugots24 said:
Also here is a beautiful video playing in 1440P. The detail is incredible. I appreciate this screen more and more. Just compared the video on my wife's iPhone screen compared to the g3 and it really blows it away.
4K Demo UHD 1440p:
http://youtu.be/11zf7Y5tUbM
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Not sure why but I can't get the 1440p option to show up on my G3
shook187 said:
Not sure why but I can't get the 1440p option to show up on my G3
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You need to make sure that the youtube app version is on 5.9 if it is. On a video that supports 1440p/2k you need to click on the 3 dots top right of the video and then click on the cog. Should allow you to change it to 1440p
With the display and the sound on the G3 I could actually imagine watching a movie on it - which I've never bothered to do on any mobile before. It's absolutely GREAT!
no need to double post ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/themes-apps/youtube-app-support-2k-video-t2841657
thank you, this basically confirmed my suspicions there is zero different between 1440 and 1080 on this screen size at least between the G2 and G3 as I played both next to each other today and out of the 5 people in my house I asked, none of them could tell a different including me. I think im going back to 1080p with 540dpi as I didn't notice any difference between that or the 1440p w/ default DPI. Battery life was just improved enough that I liked it. Thanks for posting the new apk!
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thank you, this basically confirmed my suspicions there is zero different between 1440 and 1080 on this screen size at least between the G2 and G3 as I played both next to each other today and out of the 5 people in my house I asked, none of them could tell a different including me. I think im going back to 1080p with 540dpi as I didn't notice any difference between that or the 1440p w/ default DPI. Battery life was just improved enough that I liked it. Thanks for posting the new apk!
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For changing the dpi i use texdroider_dpi, what do u use for changing the resolution?l
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For changing the dpi i use texdroider_dpi, what do u use for changing the resolution?l
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Well i tried and seems I'm doing something wrong. Can u pls tell me each setting u set?
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Well i tried and seems I'm doing something wrong. Can u pls tell me each setting u set?
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Width = 1080
Height = 1920
DPI = 530+ (anything under has been reported to cause problems. I like 540)
It's 4:45 am here so I am heading to bed after spending a night drinking so if you need more help and I don't respond its because I passed out and ill respond tomorrow when I come back to reality.
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thank you, this basically confirmed my suspicions there is zero different between 1440 and 1080 on this screen size at least between the G2 and G3 as I played both next to each other today and out of the 5 people in my house I asked, none of them could tell a different including me. I think im going back to 1080p with 540dpi as I didn't notice any difference between that or the 1440p w/ default DPI. Battery life was just improved enough that I liked it. Thanks for posting the new apk!
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For changing the dpi i use texdroider_dpi, what do u use for changing the resolution?l
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I was tempted to try the dpi modification but was a bit hesitant to. I was under the assumption most apps don't work properly and widgets on the home screen get cut off and just don't appear to look right. Maybe I'll try it. What do you guys recommend? Does it really make THAT much of a battery difference? How much more SOT do you get by making this modification?
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I was tempted to try the dpi modification but was a bit hesitant to. I was under the assumption most apps don't work properly and widgets on the home screen get cut off and just don't appear to look right. Maybe I'll try it. What do you guys recommend? Does it really make THAT much of a battery difference? How much more SOT do you get by making this modification?
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Sorry for the late response was in a bourbon coma.
So as long as you don't go down below 530, you *SHOULD* have zero problems. I ran mine at 540, but I left it at 530 first to see as that was what most say is the "breaking" point for most apps while keeping them on screen. ALL "LG" themed apps I tried worked fine, contacts, phone, messaging etc. I run Buzz Launcher w/ Zooper, and the only issue I had was with Naxos Flat "Circle Clock w/ Weather and batt stats showing the circle background wrong. I am sure if I had removed this widget, then reconfigured it most likely would have worked.
As for the battery test, I dunno I "felt" the difference but since I didn't really use any formal testing before I sent back my sprint version I don't want to tell you it does or doesn't. It "appears" to me it makes a big difference as I am usually recharging after a single movie streaming over LAN w/ ES File Manager played with Archos Video Player. Now I can watch a couple of movies. That doesn't really satisfy my "scientific" mind and it shouldn't yours either. ;^)
I think though what I will do is just run a test tonight when I get home, then tomorrow put the phone back to 2k and default dpi and re-run those same exact tests. I'll take advice as I have never "tested" battery consumption on a smartphone before. I figured I would just do a few different tests of playing movies. I don't "game" on my phone but if you have an opinion on a good one to test with I could run that too. Any experience with battery tester from Antutu, I am going to check that out also.
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Sorry for the late response was in a bourbon coma.
So as long as you don't go down below 530, you *SHOULD* have zero problems. I ran mine at 540, but I left it at 530 first to see as that was what most say is the "breaking" point for most apps while keeping them on screen. ALL "LG" themed apps I tried worked fine, contacts, phone, messaging etc. I run Buzz Launcher w/ Zooper, and the only issue I had was with Naxos Flat "Circle Clock w/ Weather and batt stats showing the circle background wrong. I am sure if I had removed this widget, then reconfigured it most likely would have worked.
As for the battery test, I dunno I "felt" the difference but since I didn't really use any formal testing before I sent back my sprint version I don't want to tell you it does or doesn't. It "appears" to me it makes a big difference as I am usually recharging after a single movie streaming over LAN w/ ES File Manager played with Archos Video Player. Now I can watch a couple of movies. That doesn't really satisfy my "scientific" mind and it shouldn't yours either. ;^)
I think though what I will do is just run a test tonight when I get home, then tomorrow put the phone back to 2k and default dpi and re-run those same exact tests. I'll take advice as I have never "tested" battery consumption on a smartphone before. I figured I would just do a few different tests of playing movies. I don't "game" on my phone but if you have an opinion on a good one to test with I could run that too. Any experience with battery tester from Antutu, I am going to check that out also.
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You won't too much of a battery difference because the display is still pushing that many pixels no matter what resolution you set. You'll likely see some performance improvements but that's probably it.
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I just tried watching a few gaming vids on 1440p and its absolutely gorgeous!
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You won't too much of a battery difference because the display is still pushing that many pixels no matter what resolution you set. You'll likely see some performance improvements but that's probably it.
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I just tried watching a few gaming vids on 1440p and its absolutely gorgeous!
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Can you cite a source please I want to read it and see how they explain that, because this statement makes zero sense to me. Regardless if the panel is still pushing the native amount of pixels the amount of energy(power) needed to power the panel lowers. You can view this by the heat generated on your CPU/GPU using different resolutions as the device may still use the default panel the smaller "image" size even with required scaling will still use less power then a full size image at native. Same goes with CPU.
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Can you cite a source please I want to read it and see how they explain that, because this statement makes zero sense to me. Regardless if the panel is still pushing the native amount of pixels the amount of energy(power) needed to power the panel lowers. You can view this by the heat generated on your CPU/GPU using different resolutions as the device may still use the default panel the smaller "image" size even with required scaling will still use less power then a full size image at native. Same goes with CPU.
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I'm not too sure either. I've been viewing threads on this for quite a while now and that's the general consensus. You can find quite a few threads here on XDA with ppl discussing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/amazing-battery-life-tweaks-t2806078
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I'm not too sure either. I've been viewing threads on this for quite a while now and that's the general consensus. You can find quite a few threads here on XDA with ppl discussing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/amazing-battery-life-tweaks-t2806078
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I've read them none of them cite sources either, its all people talking conjecture. I'll do some actual testing and post results here. For example a lot of people are saying "From my past experience", that usually equals "I haven't tested it, but take my word for it". Maybe the results will surprise me and show there is minimal battery life change, but I doubt it
EDIT: So I played around with the AnTuTu test suite's battery tester. Seems legit enough that it should give us a good baseline set of results to compare. I put my phone back to default right now and I am charging it to 100%, then Ill run the test. Should take a couple hours at least. Then I'll switch back to 1080/540dpi and do the same battery test with a full charge again and see what the results are. Probably won't be done until tomorrow morning my time but if they get done sooner (Pacific timezone) ill post them up here.
I'm half tempted to restore factory to do this testing to make it even more a set of baseline results that most VZW users can guess they will have. Right now though im running Greenify Paid w/ Xposed plugins and other things etc. Really wish we had unlocked bootloader so I could just back my stuff up but alas, I find QA/Testing fun so I dunno, I might, might not reset.
Koroz said:
I've read them none of them cite sources either, its all people talking conjecture. I'll do some actual testing and post results here. For example a lot of people are saying "From my past experience", that usually equals "I haven't tested it, but take my word for it". Maybe the results will surprise me and show there is minimal battery life change, but I doubt it
EDIT: So I played around with the AnTuTu test suite's battery tester. Seems legit enough that it should give us a good baseline set of results to compare. I put my phone back to default right now and I am charging it to 100%, then Ill run the test. Should take a couple hours at least. Then I'll switch back to 1080/540dpi and do the same battery test with a full charge again and see what the results are. Probably won't be done until tomorrow morning my time but if they get done sooner (Pacific timezone) ill post them up here.
I'm half tempted to restore factory to do this testing to make it even more a set of baseline results that most VZW users can guess they will have. Right now though im running Greenify Paid w/ Xposed plugins and other things etc. Really wish we had unlocked bootloader so I could just back my stuff up but alas, I find QA/Testing fun so I dunno, I might, might not reset.
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Ok, I await your results. It'd be interesting to see.
ran the update. showing youtube 5.9.0.10. searched for 1440p videos and still only showing 720 option. Anyone know whats up?
rollerpig said:
ran the update. showing youtube 5.9.0.10. searched for 1440p videos and still only showing 720 option. Anyone know whats up?
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try clearing data and cache on youtube app, then re-installing. mine works fine.

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