Update at post #26 (handset returned from HTC alive and well)
Urgent help required please guys - help me rescue my very poorly HD2!
Phone is completely dead at the moment. Battery is completely dead and attempts to charge it are not working - however I'm sure it's not the battery that's the problem!
I've been flashing different radio roms this last couple of days going from 2.08.50.05 to .08 and back yesterday to .05 because while on .08, the back of phone was getting really hot and the battery was draining very quicky. Late yesterday afternoon it discharged completely while I had it on-charge!
Since then it's remained dead! Initial attempts to re-charge saw the orange LED come on for a minute or two, at which time I tried a hard-reset but it froze at the point of making the selection to hard-reset after the brief bootloader screen. On one more occasion the LED came on for say 10 seconds before disappearing again and since then - nothing!
Taking the battery out for all of last night and at least 20 times today has made no difference. Trying to charge it via (original) charger and via usb cable has not worked. No LED, no charge (though interestingly it still gets warm at the back when on charge), can't boot, no response, nothing, nada.
Helpful guy in O2 shop spent 40 mins helping me out earlier today (he's a XDA forum user who flashes custom roms from here too on his HD2). He took his charged battery and put it in mine with pretty much same result! White HTC bootscreen came on for a few secs before dying again. Couldn't start/boot up my phone using his good battery, yet after putting my battery in his phone he was able to begin to charge it, proving I think that, it's not battery that's to blame for this, but an internal fault with the power-unit of the hardware, (and/or perhaps with the charging port).
I'm convinced that the power-unit is the major issue, and that as it seems to be over-heating quicky, then it shuts down immediately from doing anything. I could be wrong of course.
Sorry for the lengthy story guys, but now feeling really low that I can't seem to sort this. If I cant start it up or get to the bootloader screen then I'm not going to be able to flash a stock rom to get this problem fixed under warranty, so as you can see, I'm really frustrated!
Any help, advice, suggestions etc would be gratefully received and much appreciated too! Thanks in anticipation.
Edit: sorry should have said that I've extensively read these forums today and found many similar (but not exact same) threads/posts, hence the new thread.
hapened the same to me, radio 2.08.. to 2.05... white screen HTC freeze....not booting.
my solution was press the two sound boutons at same time, when the screen write HTC apears....them booting at radio specs...them press one more time de 2 sound boutons sf same time....
it solve for me the booting...is strange this issuie of downgrade the radio 2.08... to 2.05..
good luck.
pack21 said:
hapened the same to me, radio 2.08.. to 2.05... white screen HTC freeze....not booting.
my solution was press the two sound boutons at same time, when the screen write HTC apears....them booting at radio specs...them press one more time de 2 sound boutons sf same time....
it solve for me the booting...is strange this issuie of downgrade the radio 2.08... to 2.05..
good luck.
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Thanks pack21, but at the moment I can't get it to do anything at all - it won't start, it won't go into bootloader, and I can't charge it. I'd be happy to see anything on the screen at all right now! Thanks again.
since it cant boot why dont you take it back to HTC? They will first have to repair it since they dont know it has been flashed with an unofficial firmware....They might even give you a new device!
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since it cant boot why dont you take it back to HTC? They will first have to repair it since they dont know it has been flashed with an unofficial firmware....They might even give you a new device!
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Yeah, that's what I'm going to have to do as a last resort, but my fear is that with their tech/tools, they'll figure a way to power it up or get it into bootloader and discover it has a custom rom, and return it to me unfixed. This is almost certainly a hardware fault, as I believe it has always been warmer (sometimes very hot) at the back than it should be, but trying to prove it would be difficult. It would be great if I did return it and they couldn't boot it, but I only want to return it this way as a last resort. Here's hoping someone out there might have another solution.
Can you power the phone up with the charger and usb lead plugged into it?
Have you tried booting wth the SD card out?
If you can at least boot it up then you could try MTTY to see if that helps.
Post your outcomes back up and lets see what else we can do to help.
WB
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Can you power the phone up with the charger and usb lead plugged into it?
Have you tried booting wth the SD card out?
If you can at least boot it up then you could try MTTY to see if that helps.
Post your outcomes back up and lets see what else we can do to help.
WB
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Thanks for input WB - I note you've helped many others out on other threads with related problems.
Can't power up the phone by any method (AC charger or USB), and because it's got no power, I can't boot it at all. Tried it without SD card earlier, and it didn't make any difference. Even with someone else's battery in earlier, it wouldn't boot up or charge even, so I'm at a complete loss. Always thought I'd need to try MTTY sometime soon - just didn't know my device might die on me before then (and its only 5 weeks old). Any other thoughts?
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Thanks for input WB - I note you've helped many others out on other threads with related problems.
Can't power up the phone by any method (AC charger or USB), and because it's got no power, I can't boot it at all. Tried it without SD card earlier, and it didn't make any difference. Even with someone else's battery in earlier, it wouldn't boot up or charge even, so I'm at a complete loss. Always thought I'd need to try MTTY sometime soon - just didn't know my device might die on me before then (and its only 5 weeks old). Any other thoughts?
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Hmmm, tough one this.
I know that some of the newer roms are particular about which radio you have installed else you get a problem not dissimilar to yours, ie the device won't get past the boot screen. Yours being completely dead is a new one on me.
Do you remember what radio and what rom were on the device just before this happened?
WB
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Hmmm, tough one this.
I know that some of the newer roms are particular about which radio you have installed else you get a problem not dissimilar to yours, ie the device won't get past the boot screen. Yours being completely dead is a new one on me.
Do you remember what radio and what rom were on the device just before this happened?
WB
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Yeah, was on 2.08.50.05 until 2 days ago, flashed 2.08.50.08 to give it a try but noticed it was draining battery fast and getting v hot at the back, so reverted yesterday to .05 (but maybe too late, maybe damage was already done, because total discharge happened shortly after that yesterday).
Hey guys (WB and any others with any possible solutions), I need to hit the pillow (11.45 pm my time now and I need to be up 5.45 am), but please keep posting any ideas that you want that you might have, and I'll give them at go first thing at 5.46 am. Thanks very much in anticipation!
I think Kholk of the Eugenia project has done a lot of work with radio roms. PM him (nicely) and see if he can help.
WB
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I think Kholk of the Eugenia project has done a lot of work with radio roms. PM him (nicely) and see if he can help.
WB
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Thanks for suggestion WB. I'll pm Kholk in a moment - whilst it could indeed be the radio rom that caused the overheating and/or discharge, it seems that whatever caused it was catastrophic because I still can't get any charge into it, and hence I can't boot it up!
I hope sincerely other HD2 owners do not suffer this same problem at any time - it's proving a nightmare to fix.
My advice to all would be ignore those who promote the idea of allowing your battery to fully discharge - especially if it follows an over-heating handset - you may never recover from it (like me at the moment)!
If anyone's got any other suggestions for getting my handset powered/booted up - I'd be delighted to hear them. Really don't want to return to HTC with a custom rom on it!
The Radio ROM contains software parts that are critical to your device (at least for HTC devices) as it contains the OEMSBL (the radio bootloader) that boots ... ALL!
So, if you flash a wrong Radio ROM (as for example flashing a Diamond radio on Leo, or every radio that is not compatible with Leo: remember that for Diamond/Blackstone/X1/Raphael the radios were compatible) you'll get a totally bricked and unrecoverable (if not using JTAG!) device.
BUT.
You've flashed a Radio ROM and your device booted successfully, so, no errors during the flash process.
Assured that this Radio ROM is compatible with every HTC HD2 (TMOUS and EU), this Radio can't have produced an hardware fault on your Leo: it's almost certain that it is a coincidence that your Leo died with this Radio!
Anyway:
1. Be sure that your battery contacts are sane: check that they coincides with battery contacts: if you swap fast a battery you can do a wrong gesture with your hands and fold youre device's battery contacts.
2. Check the battery LED near the speaker: does it power on? (orange/green)
If the battery contacts are sane and the battery LED doesn't power on, maybe your battery is fault OR it is really completely discharged: on my old NEC e606 if the battery was completely discharged (0A, 0V) I had to charge it "manually".
However, if these two steps aren't helping, try this:
1. Take an AC adapter of maximum 5 Volts, or an USB cable
2. Cut off the end of the AC adapter (or the other end of an USB cable) and connect positive on battery positive and negative(GND) on battery negative.
3. Make sure that the cables are correctly connected and that your power source (AC Adapter / USB Cable) is connected and/or powered on.
4. Mantain this position for 5 minutes: your battery will take some power (yes, it is a really raw charging process)
5. Don't wait more than 5 minutes: it is a raw charging process and it will never stop! (well, not never, but if you wait for too much time, you'll **** your battery!)
6. Battery slightly charged: disconnect it from your power source, take it into your HTC HD2 and connect its battery charger.
If it works, well, you're saved, but I think that there is a fault with your HD2 because for a complete discharge of your battery you have to wait for weeks....or months! Or even years!
If that doesn't work, try with another spare battery that is known to work.
If your HTC HD2 doesn't work even with another battery, RMA it, HTC won't see that you've flashed an HardSPL, a new Radio and a custom ROM because they'll simply replace your mainboard.
Let me know how it goes!
Hope that this helped.
The Eugenia Project Developer
-kholk
If you are anything like me you wouldn't have slept well last night
best of luck mate
kholk said:
The Radio ROM contains software parts that are critical to your device (at least for HTC devices) as it contains the OEMSBL (the radio bootloader) that boots ... ALL!
So, if you flash a wrong Radio ROM (as for example flashing a Diamond radio on Leo, or every radio that is not compatible with Leo: remember that for Diamond/Blackstone/X1/Raphael the radios were compatible) you'll get a totally bricked and unrecoverable (if not using JTAG!) device.
BUT.
You've flashed a Radio ROM and your device booted successfully, so, no errors during the flash process.
Assured that this Radio ROM is compatible with every HTC HD2 (TMOUS and EU), this Radio can't have produced an hardware fault on your Leo: it's almost certain that it is a coincidence that your Leo died with this Radio!
Anyway:
1. Be sure that your battery contacts are sane: check that they coincides with battery contacts: if you swap fast a battery you can do a wrong gesture with your hands and fold youre device's battery contacts.
2. Check the battery LED near the speaker: does it power on? (orange/green)
If the battery contacts are sane and the battery LED doesn't power on, maybe your battery is fault OR it is really completely discharged: on my old NEC e606 if the battery was completely discharged (0A, 0V) I had to charge it "manually".
However, if these two steps aren't helping, try this:
1. Take an AC adapter of maximum 5 Volts, or an USB cable
2. Cut off the end of the AC adapter (or the other end of an USB cable) and connect positive on battery positive and negative(GND) on battery negative.
3. Make sure that the cables are correctly connected and that your power source (AC Adapter / USB Cable) is connected and/or powered on.
4. Mantain this position for 5 minutes: your battery will take some power (yes, it is a really raw charging process)
5. Don't wait more than 5 minutes: it is a raw charging process and it will never stop! (well, not never, but if you wait for too much time, you'll **** your battery!)
6. Battery slightly charged: disconnect it from your power source, take it into your HTC HD2 and connect its battery charger.
If it works, well, you're saved, but I think that there is a fault with your HD2 because for a complete discharge of your battery you have to wait for weeks....or months! Or even years!
If that doesn't work, try with another spare battery that is known to work.
If your HTC HD2 doesn't work even with another battery, RMA it, HTC won't see that you've flashed an HardSPL, a new Radio and a custom ROM because they'll simply replace your mainboard.
Let me know how it goes!
Hope that this helped.
The Eugenia Project Developer
-kholk
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Hey kholk, huge respect for taking the time to consider this serious problem of mine! Thank you for the different options - I'll work my way through them and see if any can bring my HD2 back to life.
I can confirm that I've successfully flashed roms and radios (via SD) and never had any problems, and I think you're right - it wasn't the switching between 2.08.50.05 to .08 and back to .05 - it was probably just a coincidence that the unit got seriously hot and discharged at the same time as I used .08 (hence the reason I had just re-flashed .05 when it happened).
Battery contacts are good - checked them carefully yesterday.
I'm convinced the battery is as dead/discharged as it could be; since yesterday morning I've not even had a glimpse of an orange LED when connected to AC or USB charger (though the unit continues to get warm at the back, but doesn't get hot any more). I'll try your ideas for getting some life into it, and I've got a replacement battery on order, but as I found out with a friend's spare battery, it still won't boot up or allow itself to be charged.
I think therefore that it will ultimately need to go back, but I'm grateful for your assurance that HTC are unlikely to know that I've got HSPL/Custom Rom and Radio on there! Many thanks again for now (its so re-assuring to know that if you come across occasional difficulties, there's some good guys on these forums who will try to help bail you out)!
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If you are anything like me you wouldn't have slept well last night
best of luck mate
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That's 2 bad nights sleep now, as this happened day before yesterday . Thanks - fingers crossed eh, both for getting mine fixed, and for hoping this is not going to become a common problem for other HD2 owners!
Well, if the device won't power up even with a known good battery, then HTC isn't able to power it on magically. Your hardware got a fault and the only fix for this is replacing the faulty part.
And no, HTC won't desolder and resolder a chip on your mainboard: they'll replace it completely!
I'm sorry for your dead HTC HD2 and I know how you're feeling... I've experienced the same.
The Eugenia Project Developer
-kholk
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Well, if the device won't power up even with a known good battery, then HTC isn't able to power it on magically. Your hardware got a fault and the only fix for this is replacing the faulty part.
And no, HTC won't desolder and resolder a chip on your mainboard: they'll replace it completely!
I'm sorry for your dead HTC HD2 and I know how you're feeling... I've experienced the same.
The Eugenia Project Developer
-kholk
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Thanks again kholk. Reading what you've written confirms for me that there's not likely to be an easy fix for this and so I should give up on that idea now and just get it returned sooner rather than later for a warranty repair. If anything develops from this I'll be sure to post an update for the benefit of anyone else who might experience the same difficulty. Much appreciated again for now!
sb09 said:
Thanks for input WB - I note you've helped many others out on other threads with related problems.
Can't power up the phone by any method (AC charger or USB), and because it's got no power, I can't boot it at all. Tried it without SD card earlier, and it didn't make any difference. Even with someone else's battery in earlier, it wouldn't boot up or charge even, so I'm at a complete loss. Always thought I'd need to try MTTY sometime soon - just didn't know my device might die on me before then (and its only 5 weeks old). Any other thoughts?
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I had very similar issue on my X1 when I left it plugged into my car by accident, it totally drained the battery and wouldn't do anything other than blip a red light.
I swapped to my spare battery and the phone booted once, said low battery (was fully charged the day before) then did the same red light.
After much fiddling, it turned out that I had to leave it on charge for around 12 hours for the battery to kick back into life and boot the phone. Then it took a further few hours to charge it again!
Older devices could only be chared with a HTC stock charger (when having a dead battery), cause they delivered a little more power then custom AC chargers (like the one for your BT headset).
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Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Problem indeed.... Firstly, I wish I could offer some constructive solutions, but afraid not.... it does sound like a worn battery, and maybe worth trying (or borrowing) another one to flash?
I take it as you refer to it as an 'Exec' that it is the O2 branded one? If it is, from my experience with the O2 technical support, they really don't have a clue. I would assume that they would send an exec straight to HTC for testing. It's a complete last resort, but if you were to tell them that your unit was dead and they were to take it in, they wouldn't be able to solve the problem before they sent it back to HTC. This is of course after you have clarified it's not just a dead battery cell.
Best of luck with the thread and hoping someone a bit more experienced can help.
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery remo....
good luck
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
kecido said:
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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thanks for all the help
1 it will not turn or power ,no led no screen
2 battery dose get hot when charging
3 screen has not been dimmed
its back at o2 shop now we will see if they repair it and ill report back !!!!!!!!!
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
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hi thanks for the reply i have had the same on a m600 ,would not charge from usb or car kit but did start with mains charger
i have tryed hard reset but it will not do that either
battery is stuck at 3.7v even after trying to discharge it with a small bulb
thanks
John...
This is something I've had happen in the past.
Try taking the battery out, and put it into a ziplock back, and place it in the freezer for a few hours. I know, I know, it sounds ridiculous. But sometimes, just sometimes, it will reactivate the cells, and you'll be able to charge it after that.
well done o2 uk
well as said before took my phone back to the O2 shop and sent it off to the service centre. The report came back that the main board US .not only did i get a new exec but But a new boxed one and a full set of all original parts !!
i had this problem when i first got my SPV m5000..i took it to the orange shop...(the people where nice) they kept it for few testing and said...
battary was faulty...so they gave me a new battery XD
Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?
Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!
I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.
I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????
I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.
I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???
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I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help
New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.
nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021
Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24
No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND
ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
Im guessing you cant run bootloader?
Maybe this is a warrenty jobby
If you know someone with another HD2, Try swapping the battery.
chrisizzle492 said:
ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
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does it enter in bootloader mode?
retry flashing wm rom+radio
chrisizzle492 said:
i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
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Hi Chris,
Please eleborate/clarify your OP, because I don't think anyone gets this... At least i don't! You say the screen doesn't turn on but the phone boots?! How do you figure that? Your device is actually on because you can receive/answer calls!?! :S
Sounds like your device has just BSOD (Black Screen of Death) which is discussed quite a lot here. Just press reset button or pull the battery (please tell me you have tried that before...).
If your device IS NOT powered on, please try this:
Does the device vibrate shortly when pressing the End-button? If so you should leave it connected to the charger for longer. If battery has drained too much it takes a while for the device to allow it to power itself up (prevention of overdrainage, which Lithium-batteries don't like very much).
Do you charge through USB, or with the supplied charger? I've had this before trying to charge it with a (different brand) microUSB charger. Turned out most chargers only give out 500mAh, whilst my normal charger (and car-charger) give out 1000mAh i believe. That might help.
You can order a cheap replacement battery from China (i got mine with dockingstation), which is already charged about 60% (for storage purposes).
BTW if your problem is fixed, please add the prefix [FIXED] or [SOLVED] to your topics title.
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Hi Chris,
Please eleborate/clarify your OP, because I don't think anyone gets this... At least i don't! You say the screen doesn't turn on but the phone boots?! How do you figure that? Your device is actually on because you can receive/answer calls!?! :S
Sounds like your device has just BSOD (Black Screen of Death) which is discussed quite a lot here. Just press reset button or pull the battery (please tell me you have tried that before...).
If your device IS NOT powered on, please try this:
Does the device vibrate shortly when pressing the End-button? If so you should leave it connected to the charger for longer. If battery has drained too much it takes a while for the device to allow it to power itself up (prevention of overdrainage, which Lithium-batteries don't like very much).
Do you charge through USB, or with the supplied charger? I've had this before trying to charge it with a (different brand) microUSB charger. Turned out most chargers only give out 500mAh, whilst my normal charger (and car-charger) give out 1000mAh i believe. That might help.
You can order a cheap replacement battery from China (i got mine with dockingstation), which is already charged about 60% (for storage purposes).
BTW if your problem is fixed, please add the prefix [FIXED] or [SOLVED] to your topics title.
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i have restarted many times.
i use the wall charger.
but why would the phone boot but not turn on the screen or have the mic work?
remove your sd card and the battery. you may have to hit the rest button on the back after you plug the battery back in as well, but as long as you have the sd card out it should come back on. try plugging the phone into a charger and then remove the battery as well sometimes it'll wake it up so to speak. it's just a matter of playing with it. mine did the exact same thing and i freaked out for a little bit.
now if after all this it doesn't work and you've played with it for a while then yeah, best of luck to you =\. but whatever you do in playing with the battery and the charger, keep the sd card out until you can boot into winmo.
EDIT: never mind, i thought the phone wasn't booting. i misunderstood, but i went back and reread the original post. try reflashing your rom if you're in winmo and experiencing those issues. or take the sd card out and reboot.
i would suggest making an backup, as your phone turns on you should be able to estaplish a remote-connection with some (3rd-party-)software and do a hardreset.
if this wont work i would recommend setting it back to factory default (revert hspl if you have one and install stock rom) and send it in for warranty.
seems to be some major problem...
All this steps should be possible without screen turning on (working touchscreen may be needed for backup, but flashing doent need screen input)
if drive-mode is default for your usb connection and holding you from flashing you can do a hardreset and afterwards active sync will be default again and you can establish an active sync connection and flash
check if any of the pins that contact the battery are bended or broken, try to avoid removing the battery when you have to reset your hd2 because the pins are fragile
similar thing happened to me just last night!
I tried the jmz dual boot last night and I was nearly out of battery. I didnt look at any instructions I just installed it and restarted the phone to check out the new toy. it finally got done loading I chose android right away and I was walking towards the bedroom. when I went to see if android had fully booted and plug in the phone I had nothing! It was off. I decided that the battery must have died so I tried to turn it on and all that happened was the tmobile flash screen came up for a second and then it went right off, I got so desperate that I was going to do a hard reset but that wouldnt even work! the boot loader screen would just shut right off. I was suggested to try another battery we had at the house and bang it fired right up I took a wiff of my other battery and I dont know what happened but I think I let the magic smoke out cuz it is fried!
chrisizzle492 said:
ok here is the problem.
4 nights ago i forgot to plug in my hd2 while android was running and the battery died.
the next morning i went to turn it on and the screen no longer turns on but the phone does boot. the battery doesnt charge, status light doesnt either, end key doesnt work, when i answer calls no noise can be heard or made.
any hope?
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hello friend...i have a problem similar to this. basically when my phone is in android which i use alot if it dies in android, when i reboot it it will turn on for about a second to see my splash screen then turn itself off (the battery is obviously flat). so i plug my charger in and it stays on now but doesnt indicate charging....i boot it into windows mobile and the batt just stays at 0% but its still working. however once i unplug it it will die.....its like the battery is not in the phone. luckily i have two batteries and a dock which charges batteries, so i replaced the battery and everything works fine. once the battery that died in android was fully charged i tried it again and it was fine.................im guesing the moral to this story is dont let your phone die in android mode
I do notice my HD2 runs hotter while in android than while it runs in Windows.
I am not sure if that's an issue to this, which is why I never mentioned about it being hotter. Although my HD2 is noticeable hotter, it never gets to a point that I think I should unplug the USB due to overheating concern...
Just a few inputs from passed experience
I use TMOUS Stock 2.13.531.1 WWE ROM
2.12.50.2_2 radio (not stock)
k going to tmobile today to see if they have any extra batteries i can try.
then ill update
i went to tmobile. and while i was there i noticed the screen was turning on but very dim without backlight (barely noticable). but the rep helping me did not notice and i let it stay that way because tmobile is sending me a new refurbished phone as long as i send the old one (and the rep was totally cool he uses xda also and said they wont check my software and if they do they wont ask for the phone back). he also let me get insurance in case this happens again, instead i will just say its lost. so i basically killed 2 birds with one stone
Last night I playing games on my Leo(MIUI Rom (Lady last 1.6.10 MAGLD android)),and phone was freezed(no respons on any buton).I pull out batery and gona to restart it,but i cant to turn it on.Left it on charger all night but I cant to turn on,cant to turn it on eather in tricolor,its death.
I use to have this Rom about few days so I thing thats is not question of rom.
What to do ,go to HTC i still have a waranty but the phone is flashed?
Anyone have similare situacion?
Sorry for English.
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Last night I playing games on my Leo(MIUI Rom (Lady last 1.6.10 MAGLD android)),and phone was freezed(no respons on any buton).I pull out batery and gona to restart it,but i cant to turn it on.Left it on charger all night but I cant to turn on,cant to turn it on eather in tricolor,its death.
I use to have this Rom about few days so I thing thats is not question of rom.
What to do ,go to HTC i still have a waranty but the phone is flashed?
Anyone have similare situacion?
Sorry for English.
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When you click power button to try switching it on, nothing happens? No vibration, nothing on screen?
Do you have someone with HD2 to try second battery? Maybe it is not bricked but only battery died.
Well to be honest Icdo not think your HD2 is bricked, it sort of sounds like you may have a dead battery. With MAGLDR you can only charge your HD2 while you have the ROM you are using booted up and running. Also try this just in case your battery os not dead but your power button is malfunctioning. Take the back cover off and press the small reset button on the back, it will be red, yellow, or green. Also make sure to have your charger connected to your HD2 in case the battery is low, it will start charging about half way through the boot up process. I will check back in on thos thread later today.
follow T-Macgnolia advice, if you can find another battery just to try if phone does boot up... after making sure that its not a battery problem ( i hope it does ) than could be that your phone is bricked and for now only jtag method could fix it.
I've never, ever heard about a really bricked HD2 unless a faulty hardware... In you case it might be the battery or a hardware issue.
HD2 is almost impossible to brick.
Howell said:
I've never, ever heard about a really bricked HD2 unless a faulty hardware... In you case it might be the battery or a hardware issue.
HD2 is almost impossible to brick.
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Unless you flash the wrong radio, that's basically it.
OP, make sure none of your pins bent when you did your battery pull. Sometimes one of the pins gets bent and it won't turn on, you have to make sure all 3 pins are touching the battery.
I think the answer to his question is between the lines :
mvinceti said:
Last night I playing games on my Leo(MIUI Rom (Lady last 1.6.10 MAGLD android)),...I pull out batery...i cant to turn it on...
I use to have this Rom about few days so I thing thats is not question of rom.
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Since Android doesn't/never brick devices and he hasn't flashed anything and his battery was working fine, Simply it's a bent pin
orangekid is correct.
Thanks for yours answers friends.
Pins are Ok.
I try to hard reset but nothing.
So when baterry is empty i cant charge it with MAGLDR i didnt know that.
Maybe is only batery empty.
I dont know no one with HD2 .
Is the same batery with Desire HD ?
Can i mesure voltage on batery i have multimetar at home.
Im having wall charger for my bluetooth headset with LED when charging its light RED,so i put HD2 withaout batery its green(no charging) and put batery in HD2 its light RED(charging).
P.S: Sorry for all this questions but im use to conect to net over HD2,
now im on dialup and this is very slow way for surfing and googling around.
Ok, So the phone is turned off. When you plug it in, don't you see the orange light even for 1 second?
Also, was the phone really hot when it freezed?
No there is no orange led turn on,phone is cold,i even try to charge batery direcly,voltage on batery is 3.75V.
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Head down to your nearest T-Mobile store, most likely they have a battery or two you can test it with. If that ends up being the case, theres also chargers you can get pretty cheap that charge batteries stand-alone, along with a spot for a usb cord to charge a battery and phone at once. Got mine off ebay for 4$
Yeah, I can't see how you can brick your device without actually flashing something.
I, on the other hand, flashed a bunch of things like an idiot and I think I really may have bricked my poor HD2. It gets no power, and I've tried a second battery and that doesn't work either although it does turn on with external power.
Here's a link to my thread if anyone has any insight for me.
I meant the moment it froze, was the phone hot?
Ye the phone was hot i played drag racing on line with wi fi conected when it froze.
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If it was really hot, then it could be a hardware failure.
Mine also got hot while running gps and now appears to be dead, have tried another battery but get no lights when pluggin in, no bent pins, is it the motherboard are they cheap/easy to fix?
Thanks, i thought i briked my phone , i leaft it to charge this night and when i wake up it won't turn on, i was very scared until i read here that could be a battery pin problem so i saw that i had the middlle pin to high, just lowered i little the pin and the phone booted up, thanks a lot.
But now i'm worried because here i read that if the phone get's to hot has changes that it will brick, what would be the best solution to not brick the phone: downclock or just pray and don't use android at full capacity?
Sorry for my english but i'm better at reading then writing
Bricking caused by HD2 beeing too hot ??? I doubt it...
Nevertheless it is not adviced to always overclock at full speed...
Bricking from an overheat is quite common, I've seen a good number come through my store with that issue.
For some reason alot people think the dashboard is a great place for their phone while driving around Phoenix o.0
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I'll throw this suggestion out there. Most likely it's not the problem, but maybe you can try charging your phone in a different outlet.
I didnt charge my phone for awhile. I recently plugged it back in and now I cant get past magdlr. After the 12345 GOGOGO it restarts endlessly. I can enter the magdlr bootmenu but cannot enter AD recovery. I heard magdlr doesnt allow charging when android isn't booted which is absolutely retarded. I dont have access to another phone to charge the battery or an external charger. Id prefer not to cut off any of my usb cables either. Are there any other solutions?
Or is the battery dead? I check the pins and they all look alright.
You could try to switch to clk but you will have to do it quickly in order to have some battery left and it's risky since it could interrupt the flashing etc.
Or you wait some time and retry after some hours and plug it on when you try next time.
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Hey mate, the best bet for you now is to flash a WM ROM. If you already have one in your PC, then you are in good shape to recover your HD2. If not, i suggest you download a suitable one(preferably stock) real quick.I hope your battery level is at least at 40%. Anyway, even if your battery is dead, all is not over. Just find someone with a HD2 or concoct some bull**** to tell your local smartphone repair dealer and get your batt charged. Dont worry,your HD2 will definitely breathe again and you can run Android in it again.All the best
Cheers
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I heard magdlr doesnt allow charging when android isn't booted which is absolutely retarded.
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Not true. When put in charging the HD2 starts.
You need to go back to stock or install clk. The 50% battery is not a must when flashing. Clk will charge your phone when turned off. Magldr will not. You need to do something quickly to get your battery charged, then you can decide on a from or something else.
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could be simply not enough charge to start booting, since there is a large current draw after magldr boots,,,id give the bare wire usb lead a try before reflashing, , if you have a spare usb cable you dont mind destroying. cut the end off, (any uab cable, deosnt have to be for this phone, standard, mini, micro, doesnt matter, ) bare teh red and black and hold red to + and black to - on teh battery for about a minute, , should have enough power to get into booting, and charging starts about halfway through booting.
(course, it might not be that problem, but if you have a spare cable it cant hurt to try)
I heard magdlr doesn't allow charging when android isn't booted which is absolutely retarded
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true, and since you're so full of criticism, how come YOU dint hack a winmo device to load up a custom bootloader into the space where a splashscreen goes to allow all kinds of things to be done to the hd2 , ****ing retard. Hope its bricked.
First, install CLK or flash a WM ROM. Then you can do a full clean installation of Task 29 onwards, including reflashing Magldr. And son, you cannot expect all features to be integrated into Magldr. Most probably, a simple reflash of Magldr should solve your problem, but for now, get your batt charged.
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could be simply not enough charge to start booting, since there is a large current draw after magldr boots,,,id give the bare wire usb lead a try before reflashing, , if you have a spare usb cable you dont mind destroying. cut the end off, (any uab cable, deosnt have to be for this phone, standard, mini, micro, doesnt matter, ) bare teh red and black and hold red to + and black to - on teh battery for about a minute, , should have enough power to get into booting, and charging starts about halfway through booting.
(course, it might not be that problem, but if you have a spare cable it cant hurt to try)
true, and since you're so full of criticism, how come YOU dint hack a winmo device to load up a custom bootloader into the space where a splashscreen goes to allow all kinds of things to be done to the hd2 , ****ing retard. Hope its bricked.
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your first part of your post is helpful mate...but lets not start a keyboard fight here...chill...
Or just go into the bootloader (tricolor) and stay there and charge the battery from there. no need to boot into Android
lol, and the years old argument 'does it charge when in bootloader?' resurfaces once more,,,
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lol, and the years old argument 'does it charge when in bootloader?' resurfaces once more,,,
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yes, it does
no, it doesn't, and so it goes on. Hehe.
(Not that I expect to convince you, of course, you've been around near on 3 yrs or so, so you've seen the numerous "yes it does no it doesn't mine does bet it doesn't your wrong no I'm not" threads about this, , but consider this,,, if it were really that simple, would we not have a deffinitive answer by now?
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no, it doesn't, and so it goes on. Hehe.
(Not that I expect to convince you, of course, you've been around near on 3 yrs or so, so you've seen the numerous "yes it does no it doesn't mine does bet it doesn't your wrong no I'm not" threads about this, , but consider this,,, if it were really that simple, would we not have a deffinitive answer by now?
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well, i guess you have to try it, then you will be convinced i wouldnt post it if i did not try that procedure before it takes a little longer to charge due to the display. its on during charge. I mean guy has nothing to lose, for me this works.
hehe, i DID try it, lots of people have, and the outcome? some say it does, some say it doesn't.
My own theory is that it does allow some residual charge to build up, by warming the battery if nothing else, making it seem that a flat battery is no longer flat, in the same way that leaving any almost-flat battery for a while,warming it in your hands and such, makes it work a little more, but from the test i ran (admittedly about two years ago), i started with 10% power and left it two hours, when i booted winmo it read 8%.
But as i said, i don't have any delusions that i will convince you (or anyone else, for that matter), its one of those questions that are best left to the individual to try it out.
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samsamuel said:
hehe, i DID try it, lots of people have, and the outcome? some say it does, some say it doesn't.
My own theory is that it does allow some residual charge to build up, by warming the battery if nothing else, making it seem that a flat battery is no longer flat, in the same way that leaving any almost-flat battery for a while,warming it in your hands and such, makes it work a little more, but from the test i ran (admittedly about two years ago), i started with 10% power and left it two hours, when i booted winmo it read 8%.
But as i said, i don't have any delusions that i will convince you (or anyone else, for that matter), its one of those questions that are best left to the individual to try it out.
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hmm i know you are one of the guys, whose know what they talk about. It really seems, that for some it works and for some not.
Yesterday i tested it that way:
battery was at 63%, booted into bootloader, waited 45mins, unplugged the cable, and booted into android (cable still unplugged), battery at 74%.
A bit strange, if the heat would add 11% of charge to the battery. But hey, its HD2, never say never and everything is possible (well not really) D
i will test it once again now.. conditions: 75%, connected via usb to pc, not to the charger. I give it 2h. (poor display :/)
after 2 hours of charging in bootloader, my battery is 98% charged. I guess i am one of the lucky guys
@greg17477
With standard charger, works for me too. Maybe if you have an inappropriate charger and display drain all charging current did not work.
hmm interesting, if a water pipe hadn't just burst this morning (i'm on a break, covered in wet plaster and sawdust) id retest it myself, , perhaps i tried it in the pc or something.
I shall certainly start advising people to give it a go from here on out.
well i stand corrected. just shows how things you take for granted aren't always so.
samsamuel said:
well i stand corrected. just shows how things you take for granted aren't always so.
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respect, you have some balls
btw. as long as it doesnt hurt our hd2, people can try this method. nothing to lose there.