I've done a handful of searches in both this general forum and the Hero CDMA dev forum, and I'd really like to hear your opinions as to which is the most workable, viable VANILLA Android 2.1 ROM available for the Hero.
Background: I'm currently on the Fresh 2.1.2 ROM, coming from the installation of the Fresh 2.1 ROM from a couple weeks ago, and from the Fresh 2.0d ROM two months before that. I'm a total stability whore -- I silently trolled these forums for weeks before deciding to root and install a Fresh ROM a couple months ago. I've stuck exclusively to Flipz' Fresh ROMs, as they're fast and I've had ZERO issues with them, and it's hard to give that up. And yet, my wife just got a Moto Droid this week and after playing with stock vanilla Android 2.1, I find myself somehow attracted to that spartan interface. Sure, I can boot into Launcher Pro on Fresh 2.1.2, and my *launcher* will be vanilla-ish, but it will continue to take me to the underlying HTC Sense apps (messaging, music, etc.).
My thoughts: I like the look and idea of DarchVanilla ROM, but that author has no immediate plans to update it and it has a few small remaining issues. I'm starting to fall hard for the look of and rationale behind Konikub's new PureHero 2.x ROM, and may load that one up this week. My only hesitation there is that it's built off of the Damage base. Nothing wrong with that, Damage does awesome work (I've read and heard) just as Flipz does, but I've never tried a Damage ROM and am loathe to give up the fast, stable Fresh ROM experience for "undiscovered country." Gotta say, though, that Konikub's tweaks in PureHero have got me standing with one foot over the abyss, ready to tumble in...
Any recommendations? Vanilla-ish ROM user experiences? General advice? Care to talk me into staying in the HTC Sense world? Let me hear it all. And thanks in advance for sharing...
I use both sense and vanilla because i am torn in between. Ultimately i end up using Sense with Vanilla apps like sense with vanilla music apk and i come up with a twisted mix of the two.
If you twisted my arm about it i would have to go with sense because it has more flare.
vastateofmind said:
I've done a handful of searches in both this general forum and the Hero CDMA dev forum, and I'd really like to hear your opinions as to which is the most workable, viable VANILLA Android 2.1 ROM available for the Hero.
Background: I'm currently on the Fresh 2.1.2 ROM, coming from the installation of the Fresh 2.1 ROM from a couple weeks ago, and from the Fresh 2.0d ROM two months before that. I'm a total stability whore -- I silently trolled these forums for weeks before deciding to root and install a Fresh ROM a couple months ago. I've stuck exclusively to Flipz' Fresh ROMs, as they're fast and I've had ZERO issues with them, and it's hard to give that up. And yet, my wife just got a Moto Droid this week and after playing with stock vanilla Android 2.1, I find myself somehow attracted to that spartan interface. Sure, I can boot into Launcher Pro on Fresh 2.1.2, and my *launcher* will be vanilla-ish, but it will continue to take me to the underlying HTC Sense apps (messaging, music, etc.).
My thoughts: I like the look and idea of DarchVanilla ROM, but that author has no immediate plans to update it and it has a few small remaining issues. I'm starting to fall hard for the look of and rationale behind Konikub's new PureHero 2.x ROM, and may load that one up this week. My only hesitation there is that it's built off of the Damage base. Nothing wrong with that, Damage does awesome work (I've read and heard) just as Flipz does, but I've never tried a Damage ROM and am loathe to give up the fast, stable Fresh ROM experience for "undiscovered country." Gotta say, though, that Konikub's tweaks in PureHero have got me standing with one foot over the abyss, ready to tumble in...
Any recommendations? Vanilla-ish ROM user experiences? General advice? Care to talk me into staying in the HTC Sense world? Let me hear it all. And thanks in advance for sharing...
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If you want a real Vanilla Rom, Aosp experience, Just Roll with Darchdroid 2.6 it doesnt get any better that As for Sense DamageControl or fressshhhh
The only real taste of vanilla you're gonna get on the Hero is DarchDroid. It's not perfect, but it's getting there and Darch is actively working on it.
I agree with ^^^
If you like the vanilla experience, then you are doing yourself a disservice by not at least trying darchdroid 2.6.2. My setup is DD 2.6.2 with the zeam. 1.3.3 launcher. It looks like the espresso launcher, but much improved. It works well with 360 degree. rotation, the middle button launches app tray (either normal slider style, or launcher2 style), and the side buttons can easily be configured almost any way you want- from launching the browser or the phone to opening contacts or settings. With overclock and jit, I have no noticeable lag. Oh yeah! And you can pick anywhere from 3 to 9 screens or any number in-between! It will even let you select which screen you want to be your homescreen.
LOL, if you can't tell, I really love this combo!
I must agree that DarchDroid 2.62 is definitely the way to go. I am using it with the Launcher Pro Beta and love the clean look of AOSP. It doesn't get more basic and clean than my homescreen. The launcher has phone, contacts, apps, messaging and internet built in. I also applied the theme from Magnus - KKD_MOD v3.2 to add some extra features behind the scenes
sushi rom, ice rom pure hero are awesome prollly the best roms you could get stripped of sense besides a full asop, and so is darchdroid, i flashed darchdroid about 4 days ago and i pulled the livewallpapers and this rom is easily my fav rom ever. Reason being is because i am a huge asop fan. darchdroid is fast and i mean fast, like the guy above said darch is actively working to fix the issues but its so good its bearable. did i spell that right. Only problem with this one to me is the battery issue. something drains the battery pretty quick full charge will only get you about half a day but bring your car charger and its worth it. sorry if my words seem jumbled i just woke up.
Thanks, y'all!
I really appreciate all of the timely input -- I've got both the PureHero and now the latest DarchDroid ROMs on my SD card and will probably pull the trigger on DarchDroid in the next day or two.
My ONLY gripe there is that I use my Hero's camera. A lot. I know we've all been spoiled with the inclusion of cameras in our phones for too many years to remember, but does anyone find that DarchDroid's lack of camera functionality to be a non-starter for them?
Dude, LOVE the golf ball wallpaper on this!
the new darchdroid does have working camera, but a battery drain problem. if you can go about 6 hours between charges its good, works great. (read awesome)
i downgraded back to v2.5.x because i don't use the camera.
he said he was planning on uploading 2.6.3 tonight so you may wait around for that, should fix the battery issue.
vastateofmind said:
I really appreciate all of the timely input -- I've got both the PureHero and now the latest DarchDroid ROMs on my SD card and will probably pull the trigger on DarchDroid in the next day or two.
My ONLY gripe there is that I use my Hero's camera. A lot. I know we've all been spoiled with the inclusion of cameras in our phones for too many years to remember, but does anyone find that DarchDroid's lack of camera functionality to be a non-starter for them?
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DarchDroid doesn't lack camera.... make sure you're look at version 2.6.2
vastateofmind said:
My ONLY gripe there is that I use my Hero's camera. A lot. I know we've all been spoiled with the inclusion of cameras in our phones for too many years to remember, but does anyone find that DarchDroid's lack of camera functionality to be a non-starter for them?
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The camera has been fixed since the upgrade to the .29 kernel which came with Darchdroid 2.6. Currently the only main issues with 2.6.2 is the video side of the camera isn't working & the battery drain.
The new Darch says it doesn't receive MMS. Does that mean the default app won't receive MMS and I can use Handcent for that; or the phone just won't receive any MMS's period?
Well ya that too, if someone sends you an MMS, you just receive a link to view it instead actually viewing it in the Messaging app.
IMHO
vastateofmind said:
Any recommendations? Vanilla-ish ROM user experiences? General advice? Care to talk me into staying in the HTC Sense world? Let me hear it all. And thanks in advance for sharing...
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Vanilla is definitely the way to go man. While I haven't tried DarchDriod yet, I will say my vote is for Ic3Rom. It's been my daily ROM for well over a month and it's stable and fast and Mdawg112 is great about keeping it updated. Check it out - it's been great for me.
On a separate note, once you choose a ROM, try this launcher. I absolutely love it.
http://jbthemes.com/anderweb/category/adwlauncher/
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Well ya that too, if someone sends you an MMS, you just receive a link to view it instead actually viewing it in the Messaging app.
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Oh, that's not nearly as bad as I had imagined.
yeah he said the battery drain has been fixed, not sure about mms though, you can send but you cant receive, and i pulled livewallpapers and the livewallpaperpicker and gallery3d and my battery has been way better i promise.
I second icerom..I'm very happy
.no lag at all. ..
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yeah he said the battery drain has been fixed, not sure about mms though, you can send but you cant receive, and i pulled livewallpapers and the livewallpaperpicker and gallery3d and my battery has been way better i promise.
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dirkydirk23, are those the exact names of the files you pulled? And how exactly DID you pull them? I vaguely recall doing so by way of the SDK at the computer desktop on Fresh 2.0d a month or so ago but I've forgotten since then. I've been on DarchDroid2.6.2 for the past few hours and it's exactly what I'm looking for, but that 3D Gallery has GOT to go. Too slow and it's a usability nightmare.
One other issue while I'm at it -- any ideas how to get back Sprint's Visual Voicemail, or at least to configure the regular voice mail number in the dialer?
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dirkydirk23, are those the exact names of the files you pulled? And how exactly DID you pull them? I vaguely recall doing so by way of the SDK at the computer desktop on Fresh 2.0d a month or so ago but I've forgotten since then. I've been on DarchDroid2.6.2 for the past few hours and it's exactly what I'm looking for, but that 3D Gallery has GOT to go. Too slow and it's a usability nightmare.
One other issue while I'm at it -- any ideas how to get back Sprint's Visual Voicemail, or at least to configure the regular voice mail number in the dialer?
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dude i know what you mean once i pulled them it was way better, ok i the exact names of the files i pulled were LiveWallpapers.apk and LiveWallpapersPicker.apk and gallery 3d.apk this is how you do it, have your phone connected via usb in this exact order just copy and paste.
adb shell
su
mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cd /system/app
ls
after they all pull up just type in
rm LiveWallpapers.apk or whatever it says just like that make sure you put rm and it will remove it, fyi dont remove anything you dont know what its for or you will screw up something. fyi you have to type them how they are shown like if its a capitalized L there has to be one, its very case sensitive when removing them.
and if you look at the first post in the darchdroid thread he put the voicemail app as a download, you can download it and use a file explorer like astro or estrongs to install it i believe, i know for sure he posted it back.
Just waiting for my HD2 to arrive and trying to look up the best sense rom. Preferably want Gingerbread!
However after looking it seems nearly all roms maybe even the froyo ones suffer from the same two issues. Camcorder lags and graphic glitches. I appreciate that this device was never meant to run android but I would like to find the most solid sense rom I can.
Oh and do all roms suffer from green tint when using flash too?
Ephumuris
froyo sense roms has no problem. you can use rafdroid,cmylxgo hd,or frankinstine hd or imilka hd roms.
OK I will use one of them as my stable rom then. However I know I can't resist trying a pyramid rom. Camcorder issue I may be way behind but I wonder if it is to do with media profiles xml? Maybe we can use Froyo camera app and set to use old libs? I guess I'll have a go myself once my HD2 arrives!
Thanks for the quick reply!
Ephumuris
Yes glitches I can live with but the camcorder I really need...
How bad are these glitches? There has got to be a way to fix camcorder eventually!
Ephumuris
in newer versions the glitches have lessened. but camcorder really lagges,just because of that i left sense-3 and went to froyo again.in addition to these power button doesn't work but there are workarounds for this.but you can try them just as i did and you can decide whether you can live with them
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in newer versions the glitches have lessened. but camcorder really lagges,just because of that i left sense-3 and went to froyo again.in addition to these power button doesn't work but there are workarounds for this.but you can try them just as i did and you can decide whether you can live with them
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I already know I can live without power button that's fine for me. A widget will do. Camcorder I would like to try and fix due to me having a little girl I like to video her when i can!
Is it any better with external apps like LG Camera?
Ephumuris
ephumuris said:
I already know I can live without power button that's fine for me. A widget will do. Camcorder I would like to try and fix due to me having a little girl I like to video her when i can!
Is it any better with external apps like LG Camera?
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Well, I've read somewhere in a Sense3-Rom's Thread that the camcorder doesn't lag when set to a less quality.
And if I were to use a sense 3 Rom, I'd give up the Cam and Camcorder, and use a "graphics fix" (which kills camera) and a "Power" fix.
So I'd come up with a ROM that only misses the Camera, which is fine to me.
Well, after a while glithes gone (not by themself but due to efforts of developers of course ), but camcorder still lags. I think there are lots of HD2 users dreaming about camcorder without lags as a New Year gift from Santa (again not wihout devs help).
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Its me again .
Here is a link to the only Ginger rom with Sense with camcorder without lags.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197751
May be developers take a look into it and port the camcorder to other ginger roms or use some parts for the fixing of lags.
Is that possible?
YES!
I am also waiting for no lag camcorder ROM.
So I am not usually the guy to post new threads. Most everything I need I can find already. But after I was video recording my son at the park today and missed yet another video due to FC issues I guess it's time to finally ask. I have had my HD2 running some android rom or another for almost 2 years. I presently have CM7 Tytung v 3.8.5-MAGLDR. The reason I am asking this here and not in that thread is because it has always been an issue regardless of the ROM I am running at the time. The video recorder force closes. It's that simple. It works intermittently and then it will inevitably force close and can not be re-opened. The only fix is to reboot the phone. I have tried about every camera/video app in the Play store. I have flashed different cameras. My wife also has an HD2 Tmobile the exact phone as me and has the exact same issue as me. The video recorder force closes. I have to wonder if I am just missing something simple? Is there an app or something to flash differently? I recently had WP7 on my HD2 and the camera was AWESOME ! WP7 just doesn't do what Droid does.I am open to suggestions. Is this a known issue I am just forced to deal with on my HD2? How can I make my Iphone buddies stop laughing at my force closing Android HD2?
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So I am not usually the guy to post new threads. Most everything I need I can find already. But after I was video recording my son at the park today and missed yet another video due to FC issues I guess it's time to finally ask. I have had my HD2 running some android rom or another for almost 2 years. I presently have CM7 Tytung v 3.8.5-MAGLDR. The reason I am asking this here and not in that thread is because it has always been an issue regardless of the ROM I am running at the time. The video recorder force closes. It's that simple. It works intermittently and then it will inevitably force close and can not be re-opened. The only fix is to reboot the phone. I have tried about every camera/video app in the Play store. I have flashed different cameras. My wife also has an HD2 Tmobile the exact phone as me and has the exact same issue as me. The video recorder force closes. I have to wonder if I am just missing something simple? Is there an app or something to flash differently? I recently had WP7 on my HD2 and the camera was AWESOME ! WP7 just doesn't do what Droid does.I am open to suggestions. Is this a known issue I am just forced to deal with on my HD2? How can I make my Iphone buddies stop laughing at my force closing Android HD2?
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Youre not alone, same thing happens to me :/ no matter the ROM, i remember reading a thread about it but what i read didnt really help. It said something about not using the fix because most newer ROMs have the fix installed. So i didnt bother downloading it and cant find the thread anymore. Im gonna go look fo rit. hope others can help us both!
I found this earlier today here on the XDA site "props to whomever it came from " I just did a random search and found it. I was using my phone so I'm not sure the page exactly. Never the less I unistalled the stock camera via Titanium Backup and flashed this through CM Recovery. It has a video feature and a decent camera interface. So far no lock ups. Only this afternoon though. Time will tell. I've been running test to try and fool it. Using lots of memory, taking multiple shots switching back and forth, rebooting etc. So far its worked. Try it out, lemme know if it works.
Well, I had been using a CM7 Nightly neared build with a few mods that jar never failed me with camera and camcorder- it was so dependable that I have it on my old, some-hard-keys-dont-work HD2 because am using ICS primarily nowadays.
I'll post what changes I make later, and can post the ROM itself here if anyone wants to try...
Swyped from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
hai bro........dont worry i use nand typhoon nightly rom latest.......
use free lg camera ...search in market download free version of lg camera
seetings for lg camera:
video:
encoder:mpeg4
resolution:640*480
bitrate:6mbits
frame rate:auto(it records in 22frames)
audio:
encoder:acc
bitrate:128mbit(stereo)
no lag for me very clear..................(you can record in 800*480 with 4mbits stable)
i personally recommand to increse saturation value to 10 in settings for good natural quality....
vigneshjack3 said:
hai bro........dont worry i use nand typhoon nightly rom latest.......
use free lg camera ...search in market download free version of lg camera
seetings for lg camera:
video:
encoder:mpeg4
resolution:640*480
bitrate:6mbits
frame rate:auto(it records in 22frames)
audio:
encoder:acc
bitrate:128mbit(stereo)
no lag for me very clear..................(you can record in 800*480 with 4mbits stable)
i personally recommand to increse saturation value to 10 in settings for good natural quality....
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<OT> Whoa bro! Go eay on smilies and ......... - it makes your post pretty hard to read, especially on the XDA app!</OT>
*Update* So after almost two years of agony I may have finally found a fix. The .zip file I posted earlier has worked so far. I fooled around with it all day yesterday and last night as well as this morning. I tried everything I know to make it crash from running multiple apps, opening a camera during a call, playing music then opening the camera etc. Rebooted a couple of times. Still not crash. I'll keep posting here with status updates. I found this yesterday on the XDA site. I just did a Google search. I am not sure who originaly posted this .zip file. If it continues to work I will give them a hug
Hi guys,
have been using htc desire 816 for like 1.3 year and it is still working great , just some issues with camera ! anyone else having this problem ? I mean what you do to customize the setting for better performance? I see nowadays a lot of noise in the pictures and not very clear as well! Also thinking of giving the custom roms a try which one is best you think in case of performance & design
What are the must use app to make it stand out , as you can see the device is old and we have to compete with giant devices , so not buying those but using this one to come close in taking selfies and photos and using apps as well.
Also one last thing after the last lollipop update looks like the storage is eaten up by something how to increase the space like before! cause i can hardly install 20-22 apps in total and it fills up!
Thanks in advance and it's good to be back in xda after long time!
I wouldn't use any custom rom, there is no stable one for the device they'r all buggy as hell
use xposed and do w/e you want
as for the storage I use link2sd, it works
Resurrection remix is Fine.
If the camera is your main issue, use Z camera. Touch to focus-snap setting enabled makes It the best &quickest.