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keep wifi connection alive on standby

there is a significant problem i just found out (i have been using symbian before).
wifi connection will not stay connected when the phone turns off in standby mode?
i really need to keep the connection alive.
i could uncheck 'turn off in xx minutes', but then the display will stay dimmed
which is not a good solution for me. power/saving bar is on full left, also disconnect wifi in xx minutes is disabled.
so, how do i do that even when the lights are off? dont tell me there is no way for that.

You need to install Advanced Configuration Tool.
http://julien.schapman.free.fr/touchxperience/advanced-configuration-tool.php
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070
There's an option you can tick to get the wifi to stay alive whilst it's on standby.

thank you for mentioning this program. it is quite useful
i have tried the advanced config tool to keep wifi connection, but it seems not working.
as soon the light turns off, wifi gets disconnected. and it gets reconnected immediately when it's back on
i have changed both:
'turn off wifi if no activity: no'
'wifi auto-off timeout to 9000000'
is there another setting i am missing or am i doing something wrong?

Acelister said:
You need to install Advanced Configuration Tool.
http://julien.schapman.free.fr/touchxperience/advanced-configuration-tool.php
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070
There's an option you can tick to get the wifi to stay alive whilst it's on standby.
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I can't find the option to keep the wi-fi on during standby. I have the config prog installed, and have read the documentation, but can't find the option to keep the wi-fi on during standby!

Edit, sorry my mistake.
Yes I'm having the same problem also it reconnects fine.
But you are right it should keep alive even in standbye.

Hi,
I used HD Tweak to change this setting. Works perfectly, now WiFi stays connected when the Phone is in StandBy
Regards,
Rolf

^Rook said:
Hi,
I used HD Tweak to change this setting. Works perfectly, now WiFi stays connected when the Phone is in StandBy
Regards,
Rolf
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awesome! I have that program but never noticed the option until now! thanks for pointing it out!

thanks hd tweak does work for wifi on standby

^Rook said:
Hi,
I used HD Tweak to change this setting. Works perfectly, now WiFi stays connected when the Phone is in StandBy
Regards,
Rolf
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Thanks . I just forgot this was the way to go ...

But keep in mind that this option will SUCK all your battery very soon.....

Why dont you just turn the backlight off instead of standby when you want wifi to stay on. This way you dont need to mess with wifi setting.

mib1800 said:
Why dont you just turn the backlight off instead of standby when you want wifi to stay on. This way you dont need to mess with wifi setting.
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Good suggestion.
Is there a application that will help me do it .
I have seen that in Wktask manager but not anywhere else

drgopoos said:
Good suggestion.
Is there a application that will help me do it .
I have seen that in Wktask manager but not anywhere else
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I am using AE Button which has an option to turn backlight off.
btw: I am using version 2.6.3 which I think have a bug ie if you the use the option inside AEB to turn on wifi, the wifi stays on even if you press the top power-off button. This "bugged" version fits your requirement nicely.

Braveheart1980 said:
But keep in mind that this option will SUCK all your battery very soon.....
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And what about Heat up problem?? Keeping Wifi on will turn your HD into an oven - unless you keep it ventilated all the time

ash3012 said:
And what about Heat up problem?? Keeping Wifi on will turn your HD into an oven - unless you keep it ventilated all the time
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Same thing for me

the problem is wifi scanning.
on my old Nokia N95 (Symbian OS) i could turn off wifi scanning BUT keep the wifi connected to the router. that resulted being connected to something without constantly scanning for new routers or access points.
i dont know why but in all WM devices we do not have a possibility to turn off wifi scanning at all while keeping the wifi sesstion running.

Display stays dimmed

I know I know there are tons of topics about this
But here this out. I ve got the problem for about a week and hope some one can help me out.
After 30 secs my screen goes to dimmed-fase ( correctly as I setted )
And after 1 min. it suppose to auto turn it off but, it does try to by it only locks it down so the screen stays dimmed and doesnt go in standby ( total black screen and stuff )
Any one know what this might be?
Ive check the power settings and I have ticked the auto turn off after a ... minutes not used :S
So hope some one can help me out cause it drains my poor battery

sounds like a software issue, perhaps someone here knows the correct registry settings applicable to powersaving

I hope some one knows Cause I thought there were more folks that are looking for this

is it plug in for recharging? if yes, it's normal, during rechargind, it dimms out after 30 mins or so (please check both options, to dim out after 1-2 mins.)

Nope just normal use, so I sure hope some one knows the right registry setting to it

When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.

ahlok_hk said:
When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.
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I noticed that happens even when using a bluetooth to sync. No matter cable or not, connected activesync keeps light on.

Arrggh? Does no one know the right registry key value to it ? its quit annoying

*bump*
Really no one knows anything about this

same problem for me
I use LumOS, are you using it too ?

I removed LumOS, and everything is good now

Do you have MobileMagic installed?
I did and it had 'Stay On' activated in its settings which meant it always stayed on!
Might be the case here too!

koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Even if my HD has no LumOS or Mobile Magic (from hard reset), the problem (backlight stays on during USB sync) still exist.
P.S. My previous X1 has the same behaviour...

koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Well I had it installed but I removed it later one cause I didnt liked it too much
But the problem still occurs so there most be a registry value that didnt change with the install :\ or something

I've looked up some registry value's but really dont know which one i've have to edit
or if I even have looked up the right one
BatteryTimeOut 30
BatteryTimeoutTemp 0
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked 0
Maybe some one that still has the function that the screen goes black after a while.
Can look up the registry value's ? here is the path I dont know if i'm looking at the right point:
HKCU\\ControlPanel\Backlight
Maybe some one is kind enough to list all of there value in this map ?
PS:
My problem is that my blacklight doesnt go fully to black and that's when using it normal. Not connected to anything or something .
It usualy goes to black after a XX amount of time. but that doesnt happen any more :\

Dang no one is offering his self up too look up those registery valves

Guys, the fix is simple. You must have turned on the Autolock feature using HD Tweak or Advanced Config.
If yes, just turn it off.

I have got the autolock function on, did it via HDtweak
Havent check it via Advanced config.
But I dont know what you mean with the last sentence?
Should I turn it on or off?
Edit:
Well dang you were right, i've turned off the autolock function.
And now the display does go to black.
But I find it strange that it worked nicely a few weeks ago and now the problem occurs
so any idea?

*bump*
still no one has found the solution?

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can't set off wifi on standby

Hey guys,
i know this sounds funny but i've installed the bsb tweaks and wifinostandby for staying connected to wifi on standby..
it worked perfect but now i cant change it to off. it's using too much battery..
i've changed the registry but it didnt help at all.
how can i solve this?
thanks!

alpergroups said:
Hey guys,
i know this sounds funny but i've installed the bsb tweaks and wifinostandby for staying connected to wifi on standby..
it worked perfect but now i cant change it to off. it's using too much battery..
i've changed the registry but it didnt help at all.
how can i solve this?
thanks!
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Are you saying that you can't turn off wifi at all, or that you can turn it off, but you want it to turn off automatically when in standby?

johncmolyneux said:
Are you saying that you can't turn off wifi at all, or that you can turn it off, but you want it to turn off automatically when in standby?
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I guess he wants wifi automatically turn off when in standby. this one is bothering me as well.

yes exactly..
i want to turn it off when its on standby..

Have you uninstalled WifiNoStandby and done a soft reset afterwards?

yes i've uninstalled it(wifinostandby) and still wifi is active on standby.

Where in the registry did you check?
It should be HKLM\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms:HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended = 0

yes i've set it to zero also.

In that case, I'm sorry to say but something else is affecting your wifi status. I know for sure it's not WifiNoStandby as the only thing it does is set that registry value to 1 every time you restart. Since you've uninstalled it and that values is definitely 0 then something else must be interfering. I'd be very interested to find out what that is myself!

i've solved it.
i dont know how.
i just know i've uninstalled wifino&bsb tweaks and change the parameters at registry.
interesting.

Screen dims, but never shuts off

I just noticed this morning that when I hit the power button the screen only dims now. I swear it used to shut off the display completely before today, and I know for certain that is how it worked on 1.6. This really is annoying, because now when I put it in my pocket the 3 buttons are constantly being depresses and they vibrate, which lights the display again. That coupled with this stupid lock screen that I have to try to open 3-4 times is really making me angry. Maybe it's just me thugh.....

I'm assuming you upgraded to 2.1?
I remember reading somewhere that someone had a similar issue after upgrading to 2.1 but then they re flashed 2.1 a different way and problem went away.

Same issue here, it really eats up my battery life, and I do end up pushing those soft keys all-too often... I am on 2.1 and that is definitely when the problem started, I'm going to try reflashing to see if I can eliminate the issue.

try the steps found here on streaksmart.com. She reports that she has no issues when its done that way. I don't have my streak yet but will follow these steps when i get it.

I had a similar problem before, only the screen would go off and on again and stay on!
Turns out it was an APP that done this.
It is possible an app is causing the problem.

Don't leave wifi on when not using and the problem disappears.

vatk said:
Don't leave wifi on when not using and the problem disappears.
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I've been experimenting with what's been causing this on mine, and I noticed that sometimes wifi will not shut all the way off. It hangs at "Turning off..."
So I tried not letting it sleep with wifi on, I turn it on if I need it, then turn it off (really a big pain in the butt) but went two days with no "no sleep" problems.
Today I tried leaving wifi on all the time, not two hours later it happened.
Since it's not happening to everybody, I wonder if it has something to do with our wifi setups. Maybe the router brand, or the encryption type, or something?

Last night I powered off the phone before better. I have wifi on all the time and I never shut it off. Today though, I have had no issues with the sleep function. It's still mid afternoon so we'll see if it continues this way. If so I will explore the wifi solution as well.

I was having this problem and somehow this setting was wrong:
SETTINGS>>APPLICATIONS>>DEVELOPMENT>>STAY AWAKE
mine was checked and we all know what that mean. Check yours to be sure if your not up for flashing again. Just a thought in case you overlooked this...

bhyde said:
I was having this problem and somehow this setting was wrong:
SETTINGS>>APPLICATIONS>>DEVELOPMENT>>STAY AWAKE
mine was checked and we all know what that mean. Check yours to be sure if your not up for flashing again. Just a thought in case you overlooked this...
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Yes, it means the screen will not time out and go off when it's being charged, but you can still turn it off, and mine wasn't plugged in when I couldn't turn it off.
I don't think this is related to what I've been seeing, but thanks.

It seems that Bluetooth did it today. I was fine all day going black on sleep with power button, but once I switched on wireless to connect to my car stereo it never went off again. Even if I turn off the wireless I have to shut down and reboot.

jnovello said:
It seems that Bluetooth did it today. I was fine all day going black on sleep with power button, but once I switched on wireless to connect to my car stereo it never went off again. Even if I turn off the wireless I have to shut down and reboot.
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Same here. Started car and it showed zero signal strength for the phone on the dashboard display. Pressed the power button on the Dell Streak and the car display then displayed the signal strength. From then on, the screen would dim but not shut off.
Pete

petesbodyparts said:
Same here. Started car and it showed zero signal strength for the phone on the dashboard display. Pressed the power button on the Dell Streak and the car display then displayed the signal strength. From then on, the screen would dim but not shut off.
Pete
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Was your wifi also enabled (even if not connected to any AP's) when this happened?

a042349 said:
Was your wifi also enabled (even if not connected to any AP's) when this happened?
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Yes, and I couldn't turn it off once the "screen dim bug" took hold. Today I've rebooted and left Bluetooth OFF and Wireless ON and have not had an issue all day long, and that's making calls, using 3G, wireless and running a pile of apps. I think I can live with no Bluetooth until the next release.
Pete

I don't think it's BT. I think it's wifi not recovering properly from sleep mode.

a042349 said:
I don't think it's BT. I think it's wifi not recovering properly from sleep mode.
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Fair call. However, I've now had BT off for 6 hours and I'm using 3G, wireless and USB transfers and it hasn't hiccuped yet. This is the longest I've had with no screen dim bug.
I did notice that when I walked out to the car, the Streak could still "see" my home wireless network, then starting the car and the BT pairing and connecting is when the screen dim bug came back.
Maybe it's when both are run at the same time and both are connected/paired?

petesbodyparts said:
Fair call. However, I've now had BT off for 6 hours and I'm using 3G, wireless and USB transfers and it hasn't hiccuped yet. This is the longest I've had with no screen dim bug.
I did notice that when I walked out to the car, the Streak could still "see" my home wireless network, then starting the car and the BT pairing and connecting is when the screen dim bug came back.
Maybe it's when both are run at the same time and both are connected/paired?
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I agree its looks like its a wifi issue. I always keep my bluetooth off and it still did it.
I got mine fixed... but the problem is i did a bunch of steps and now cant figure out which one actually fixed it. its been running great for 12hrs now.

What I did, since I noticed that wifi sometimes didn't sleep or wake itself up properly all the time (which i think is what's affecting our Streak sleeping), was turn off the wifi sleep. In other words when my device shuts off wifi stays active.
However, I then used "Tasker" from the Market and setup two profiles. When the screen goes off it shuts off 3G, wifi and autosync. Then when the screen comes on it turns on 3g/wifi, waits 20 secs and enables autosync (which then initiates a mail/calendar/contacts sync).
This has worked perfectly, and I get mad good battery life to boot. Now this means I don't get mail/updates (facebook, weather, etc - still get calls and txts obviously) but for me it's not a big deal especially for the battery life.
I may eventually setup more Tasker events to duplicate "Juice Defender" and poll every half hour (3G only, when screen is off only) to get my updates, but for now it's been working great.
I also setup profiles so if I'm not where I have wifi pairings it shuts down wifi. Also if it detects I'm connected via wifi (at home for instance) it disables my lock screen. I also have it set to only start GPS for apps that need it (Maps, Navigation, Places, etc) and that helps save battery too.
Tasker is an awesome app for $3.99. It has a steep learning curve, but there are enough walk-throughs available to teach you how to do the basics.

rebel146 said:
I agree its looks like its a wifi issue. I always keep my bluetooth off and it still did it.
I got mine fixed... but the problem is i did a bunch of steps and now cant figure out which one actually fixed it. its been running great for 12hrs now.
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Found the fix on Modaco. Have a look at the last page of the thread called "2.1 Bugs ....., Add what you find please....."
I never knew there was an "Advanced" menu for WiFi!

yeah that is not it. I also have mine set to never time out so does that mean it will never shut off either? Anyway, it keeps happening through the day. Wifi and bluetooth do seem to have something to do with it, but I need them both on all the time so the only thing I can do is reboot. Then it is good for a couple hours. Are the any apps that have a reboot? That's one thing I miss on the iPhone.

[Q] Wifi always on

Hi, is there a way to keep wifi ALWAYS on?
My mom doesn't have a data plan, she doesn't need one. She spends 22 hours a day at home with a wifi connection, so I got her this phone. But the problem is that wifi automatically turns itself off after a while! She has to turn it on to get the notifications. Is there a way to always keep it on so that notifications always come through? I've tried the battery management profiles, but unless I'm doing something wrong, it doesn't work correctly!
Any ideas? Apps? Or tweaks or something?
Thanks!
NEVERMIND! FIXED IT! I couldn't find the sleep policy but now I did ^^ Thanks guys!

OK, NEVERMIND! It's STILL not working! I got the policy to ALWAYS ON, but after a little bit the wifi connection disconnects! I went through the battery saving profiles as well, and same thing. Is there an application or a setting I can use to fix this?
Thanks!

you can try "soft locker" apps in market to keep your phone not "100%" sleep when the display turned off . .

adityo97 said:
you can try "soft locker" apps in market to keep your phone not "100%" sleep when the display turned off . .
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I'll give it a try. What about any of those battery saving apps? The ones that auto turn on / off your wifi and 3G based on time. Do you think any of those could also work? I wrote Motorola and let's see what they say.
Thanks though I"ll give it a try today