Related
this is prob really stupid question, but how do i tell if i have manila 3 or not? (for installing themes etc)
Manila 3 has the new finger friendly menus. It helps?
finger friendly? like bigger buttons? anyone got a link to a image of both?
it's a bit confusing, but simple to get a handle on it
if you have a stock HD (no custom ROM) you have Manila v2.
if you flashed a custom ROM that mentioned "new" Manila or Manila 3 or Topaz/Rhodium Manila then you have Manila 3,
basically you'd know if you have v3
both are TouchFLO 3D (not 2D as some may assume)
and a lot of graphics are interchangeable (clocks and tray pictures/icons and many others)
so whats manilla 1? Touch Flo 2D?
Well, why not go into settings tab, scroll down to "About" and...
Voila!
Right under "About" you can see:
TouchFLO 3D 2.0 bla bla bla...
Rozenthal said:
Well, why not go into settings tab, scroll down to "About" and...
Voila!
Right under "About" you can see:
TouchFLO 3D 2.0 bla bla bla...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine gives 1.3.35590.0_1630.38 yet under settings > system > touchflo it gives version 3.0
which do i have?
all on stock rom.
How can Install manilla v. 3?
swisschris1970 said:
How can Install manilla v. 3?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you haven't already got manila 3, the only way you can get it is to flash to a rom which does have it!
thank you guys for the replies, i have 3.0 now can look for relevent themes.
Psygnosis84 i would say you have v3 also, dont know what the 1.3. number is - maybe the version of manila 3? (but i dont have this code on mine. i went to settings, touchflow, about and that gave me the version number.
t3rm3y said:
thank you guys for the replies, i have 3.0 now can look for relevent themes.
Psygnosis84 i would say you have v3 also, dont know what the 1.3. number is - maybe the version of manila 3? (but i dont have this code on mine. i went to settings, touchflow, about and that gave me the version number.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But i thought the new Rhodium or Topaz were Manilla v3 and i definitely don't have those on the rom.
t3rm3y said:
thank you guys for the replies, i have 3.0 now can look for relevent themes.
Psygnosis84 i would say you have v3 also, dont know what the 1.3. number is - maybe the version of manila 3? (but i dont have this code on mine. i went to settings, touchflow, about and that gave me the version number.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine says version 3 aswell, but it doesn't mean it is the new manila, like the one that comes with the new diamond. It's the old manila. Unless you've flashed an unofficial rom you won't have the new manila.
oh ok, well i do have a cooked rom, and it uses topaz or rhodium stuff.
so what does the v3 in tf3d settings/about mean if you dont have a flashed rom? (touch flo is manila right?)
I notice there is an update to the Touch HD on the official website. Is this update included in Manilla 3 ROMs?
Where do you download and how to you upgrade to Manilla 3?
ScarySquirrel said:
I notice there is an update to the Touch HD on the official website. Is this update included in Manilla 3 ROMs?
Where do you download and how to you upgrade to Manilla 3?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This rom update has been available for a few weeks now and is also shown on wiki. Its the 1.56 rom which a lot of new cooked roms use
Fallen Spartan said:
This rom update has been available for a few weeks now and is also shown on wiki. Its the 1.56 rom which a lot of new cooked roms use
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I found some other threads which explain how to flash to 1.56 and then to another cooked ROM. I think I will try out Dutty's.
My HD has been really slow recently so hopefully doing this will speed things up and fix a few problems I have been having.
Hi...sorry this has been asked before...I just got a Topaz with official WM6.5 ROM version 2.17.707 flashed already.
May I ask how would I know/ check what version of Manila/ Sense I am using....2.1 or 2.5?
Comparing with the themes I have seen here...my Home screen looks like an old one...no 4 app Icons on the Home tab (below Calendar and Call History icons).....unlike the ones I usually see here.
Am I using an old version of Manila? If so, where can I download the 2.5?
thanks...
yes, thats manila 2.1 that u have on the device. u have to flash a cooked ROM if u want manila 2.5. try them all and chose the one which suits u best. thread closed.
Well, I searched the forum and checked my phone, so pardon me if this has been discussed before.
I'm using the T-Mobile WM 6.5 Stock ROM, version 1.91.531.3 (74508) WWE. Does anyone know how to determine which version of Sense is installed? I'm thinking it may be 2.1 rather than 2.5.
I"m asking because I'm considering installing some of the themes, and I want to download the correct ones.
**UPDATE**
I have found references that say it is 2.1, but I'd still like to know how to find out. The Settings menu "About" only brings up an HTML file in IE, and does not mention any sense version information.
stevedebi said:
Well, I searched the forum and checked my phone, so pardon me if this has been discussed before.
I'm using the T-Mobile WM 6.5 Stock ROM, version 1.91.531.3 (74508) WWE. Does anyone know how to determine which version of Sense is installed? I'm thinking it may be 2.1 rather than 2.5.
I"m asking because I'm considering installing some of the themes, and I want to download the correct ones.
**UPDATE**
I have found references that say it is 2.1, but I'd still like to know how to find out. The Settings menu "About" only brings up an HTML file in IE, and does not mention any sense version information.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you looked at Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information? I'm on a custom rom, so I don't know how it looks on Stock, but it may list Manila version there.
But it is 2.1 -- for sure (on T-Mo USA).
I don't believe that the stock Tmo 6.5 ROM has anywhere that it flat out states "sense 2.x" (or if it does I can't find it anywhere).
However, in system settings you can just choose "about", and there it says that the build is 21881, which is a Sense 2.1 build.
EDIT: and since you're looking at installing some themes, etc, it actually helps to know which exact build you have, since even on 2.1 some of the themes and other visual elements actually work on some 2.1 builds but not others (I've run into this a few times since upgrading to 6.5 this past weekend). It's usually listed in the threads which builds are ok or aren't.
MCbrian said:
Have you looked at Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information? I'm on a custom rom, so I don't know how it looks on Stock, but it may list Manila version there.
But it is 2.1 -- for sure (on T-Mo USA).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no "Software Tab", only Hardware.
sirphunkee said:
I don't believe that the stock Tmo 6.5 ROM has anywhere that it flat out states "sense 2.x" (or if it does I can't find it anywhere).
However, in system settings you can just choose "about", and there it says that the build is 21881, which is a Sense 2.1 build.
EDIT: and since you're looking at installing some themes, etc, it actually helps to know which exact build you have, since even on 2.1 some of the themes and other visual elements actually work on some 2.1 builds but not others (I've run into this a few times since upgrading to 6.5 this past weekend). It's usually listed in the threads which builds are ok or aren't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the information, it is 21881. I just noticed in the ROM thread that the ROM shipped in August of 2009 had a later version of WM than my "upgrade" OS dated 19 Dec 09. That is very strange. Also, that August version had a different type of Sense; evidently the settings tab actually showed the Sense version.
stevedebi said:
Thanks for the information, it is 21881. I just noticed in the ROM thread that the ROM shipped in August of 2009 had a later version of WM than my "upgrade" OS dated 19 Dec 09. That is very strange. Also, that August version had a different type of Sense; evidently the settings tab actually showed the Sense version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it's the T-mobile ROM you're talking about, the one "shipped" back in Aug was the originial WM 6.1 ROM that came on all T-mobile TP2's, before the 6.5 upgrade showed up. That 6.1 ROM didn't have sense on it at all actually, it had what was known as "TF3D 2.1"...which does cause a lot of confusion with sense 2.1. The version numbers assigned to the builds don't always increase over time the way you might suspect, so it could look like that previous version is a "later" build if you just look at the build numbers.
Oh, and yes, in that 6.1 ROM (which I was running up until this past weekend), the TF3D version was listed right on the "settings" tab....no idea why it's not there anymore.
Been trying to figure out my Sense version as I have had problems with HDWall and Facebook tab and others.
This thread has some of the information I need and now tells me that I do not have Sense 2.1.
I have a Touch Pro 2 running: TF3D: CE OS 5.2.21854 (21854.5.0.80).
If sense 2.1 = 21881 what is 21854?
And how can I upgrade it? is it possible to upgrade without using a ROM?
Cheers for your help
G
grymcent said:
Been trying to figure out my Sense version as I have had problems with HDWall and Facebook tab and others.
This thread has some of the information I need and now tells me that I do not have Sense 2.1.
I have a Touch Pro 2 running: TF3D: CE OS 5.2.21854 (21854.5.0.80).
If sense 2.1 = 21881 what is 21854?
And how can I upgrade it? is it possible to upgrade without using a ROM?
Cheers for your help
G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, the "21854" is the Windows build number, that is separate from sense. However I discovered that the easiest way to tell 2.1 from w.5 is that 2.5 has shortcuts on the home tab; boxes with a "+" mark, that you can assign to shortcuts.
If you are running US Tmobile, there is an upgrade to WM 6.5 and Sense 2.1. I'm not sure about other carriers. Or you can flash a ROM...
grymcent said:
Been trying to figure out my Sense version as I have had problems with HDWall and Facebook tab and others.
This thread has some of the information I need and now tells me that I do not have Sense 2.1.
I have a Touch Pro 2 running: TF3D: CE OS 5.2.21854 (21854.5.0.80).
If sense 2.1 = 21881 what is 21854?
And how can I upgrade it? is it possible to upgrade without using a ROM?
Cheers for your help
G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
According to the list of stock roms in the wiki, 21854 is a WM 6.5 build that was distributed by most every carrier in europe, so I would also presume that it already has sense 2.1. Is there Weather in your home clock? The last manila version prior to sense 2.1 was tf3d 2.1, which I don't think you have, and it's easy to spot due to it's lack of weather on the home tab.
sirphunkee said:
According to the list of stock roms in the wiki, 21854 is a WM 6.5 build that was distributed by most every carrier in europe, so I would also presume that it already has sense 2.1. Is there Weather in your home clock? The last manila version prior to sense 2.1 was tf3d 2.1, which I don't think you have, and it's easy to spot due to it's lack of weather on the home tab.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do not have weather on the Home Tab. it has a Tab on TF3D but the Home Tab just has the flip clock call history/calendar list.
So it sounds like I have a lower version of Sense? and the only way to change that is ROM upgrade right?
Cheers
G
grymcent said:
I do not have weather on the Home Tab. it has a Tab on TF3D but the Home Tab just has the flip clock call history/calendar list.
So it sounds like I have a lower version of Sense? and the only way to change that is ROM upgrade right?
Cheers
G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, that's TouchFlo3D 2.1, the last thing that Manila was before it became sense, and there's nowhere near the options for it that exist with Sense 2.1 etc.
Generally the only way to upgrade your sense version is to flash a rom that has it on there. There is some experimentation going on with a cab version of Sense 2.5, you can read about it starting with post #9 in THIS thread...but they're trying to upgrade from Sense 2.1 to 2.5, I have no idea if it'll work at all going from TF3D to Sense 2.5.
i really like this app but i'm afraid it might mess up my flo3d or other stuff, has anyone tried this on there tilt2 yet?
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-co0kies-home-tab.html
thanks in advance...
I tried it on my Sense 2.5, its amazing! Must have! Off course, with Editor!
apax said:
i really like this app but i'm afraid it might mess up my flo3d or other stuff, has anyone tried this on there tilt2 yet?
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-co0kies-home-tab.html
thanks in advance...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It only applies to Sense 2.5. Which ROM are you using, and which Sense version?
apax said:
i really like this app but i'm afraid it might mess up my flo3d or other stuff, has anyone tried this on there tilt2 yet?
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-co0kies-home-tab.html
thanks in advance...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its "home" is a thread about it here on XDA, in the HD2 forum:
Co0kie's Home Tab.
I've been using previous versions for a couple of months and luv it...this latest one is a huge feature-upgrade -- really great. I won't run my phone without it now.
But, yes, you have to be running Sense 2.5. I've experienced no downside, only benefit, using this.
MCbrian said:
Its "home" is a thread about it here on XDA, in the HD2 forum:
Co0kie's Home Tab.
I've been using previous versions for a couple of months and luv it...this latest one is a huge feature-upgrade -- really great. I won't run my phone without it now.
But, yes, you have to be running Sense 2.5. I've experienced no downside, only benefit, using this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been tempted to flash my ROM, but it really doesn't make any difference. I like SPB Mobile Shell so much that I just don't think I'd like any Sense version. But the main reason I WOULD consider flashing is to get that Cookie version with 2.5. It is as close as it comes to Mobile Shell.
The other reason I don't flash is that everything on my phone is working, and I think that a stock ROM is more likely to be stable than a cooked ROM. If I have any problems I may well change my mind.
stevedebi said:
It only applies to Sense 2.5. Which ROM are you using, and which Sense version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have the stock rom 1.59.502.3 (67150) WWE and where do i find what version my sense is?
i looked under my setting>about>version = it says:
windows modbile 6.5 professional
CE OS 5.2.21849 (Build 21849.5.0.63)
im also installed iphonetoday and spb mobile shell 3.5.3 and have touchflo3D (that came with the phone)
apax said:
i have the stock rom 1.59.502.3 (67150) WWE and where do i find what version my sense is?
i looked under my setting>about>version = it says:
windows modbile 6.5 professional
CE OS 5.2.21849 (Build 21849.5.0.63)
im also installed iphonetoday and spb mobile shell 3.5.3 and have touchflo3D (that came with the phone)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Find yourself a appropriate official stock rom for upgrade to Sense 2.5, rom 2.xxxxx (for your region), download, install, hard reset, install Cookie`s and you`re gonna rock! If you gonna flash custom rom, don`t forget HardSpl!
darkic said:
Find yourself a appropriate official stock rom for upgrade to Sense 2.5, rom 2.xxxxx (for your region), download, install, hard reset, install Cookie`s and you`re gonna rock! If you gonna flash custom rom, don`t forget HardSpl!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
apax said:
i have the stock rom 1.59.502.3 (67150) WWE and where do i find what version my sense is?
i looked under my setting>about>version = it says:
windows modbile 6.5 professional
CE OS 5.2.21849 (Build 21849.5.0.63)
im also installed iphonetoday and spb mobile shell 3.5.3 and have touchflo3D (that came with the phone)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
okay, it seems like in order to get this app, i need to flash my rom, i looked at the (Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development section), i read a couple of pages in there, and it seems like this ROM are unstable....is it really worth it to get the cooke app or should i just keep the stock TF3D and iphonetoday and mobile shell 3.5.3? since my stock ROM is flawless...(afraid to flash...)
apax said:
okay, it seems like in order to get this app, i need to flash my rom, i looked at the (Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development section), i read a couple of pages in there, and it seems like this ROM are unstable....is it really worth it to get the cooke app or should i just keep the stock TF3D and iphonetoday and mobile shell 3.5.3? since my stock ROM is flawless...(afraid to flash...)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have found that most of the cooked ROMs with Sense 2.5 are actually more stable than stock ROMs. Doring a brief lapse in judgement I decided to flash the updated stock T-Mobile ROM and the speed and unstability almost made me want to smash my phone with a tack hammer. Then I remembered there was a saving grace- the awesome cooked ROMs here. The best advice is to try one...if you end up not liking it you can always go back to stock.
miked79928 said:
I have found that most of the cooked ROMs with Sense 2.5 are actually more stable than stock ROMs. Doring a brief lapse in judgement I decided to flash the updated stock T-Mobile ROM and the speed and unstability almost made me want to smash my phone with a tack hammer. Then I remembered there was a saving grace- the awesome cooked ROMs here. The best advice is to try one...if you end up not liking it you can always go back to stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too flashed the (US) Tmobile ROM updated of Jan 2010. At first it was too slow, but after a lot of tweaking it is now fast and very stable. Actually I have had the same experience with all the HTC devices I've owned. I had a Magician that I flashed, a P3470 stock HTC, and now my TP 2 T-Mobile. In each case I had to massage the unit until it was just right, and in each case it was faster and more stable after about 3-4 weeks. I think that part of it was my tweaks, and part was my learning how the ROM operates.
I would recommend that anyone flashing a ROM consider keeping it for at least a couple of weeks before giving up on it.
apax said:
i have the stock rom 1.59.502.3 (67150) WWE and where do i find what version my sense is?
i looked under my setting>about>version = it says:
windows modbile 6.5 professional
CE OS 5.2.21849 (Build 21849.5.0.63)
im also installed iphonetoday and spb mobile shell 3.5.3 and have touchflo3D (that came with the phone)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to go to the settings for the today screen and turn off all the plug-ins. One of them will be named sense. There is no point in having both Sense and mobile shell.
When running sense, you can tell the version by the home screen. If there are shortcuts under the weather icon, then you have 2.5; otherwise it is 2.1.
If you really want your TP2 to rock, I recommend Vostradamus add ons:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574264
and there is a really cool Mobile Shell theme that looks and functions like the upcoming Windows 7 for Mobile:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649362
New to Tilt 2 - Want Co0kie's Home Tab
Hi guys,
I'm new to the Tilt 2, but not new to the forum. Recently, I had changed to the HTC PURE (courtesy of AT&T's free upgrade), but I couldn't get the Bluetooth to initiate calls from my car. After 2 weeks of struggling with stock and cooked ROMs, different radios and a plethora of other flashes, I finally went to my final option. (Hyundai told me that the Tilt phone was compatible with their Bluetooth.) I took a chance and after much pleading and negotiating, I was able to get a Tilt 2 for no charge in exchange for my new PURE. Right out of the box, it works perfectly with my Hyundai Genesis Coupe. But now, my next dilemna is what to do about the apps and functions on the phone. I have been a loyal follower of TAEL and NRG's ROMs. NRG recently built-in the Co0kie's Home Tab into his latest ROMs. I'm worried that if I flash a new cooked ROM, then the Bluetooth may no longer work. However, if I can at least get the Co0kie's Home Tab, I might be able to live with it all. However, I have noticed that the Co0kie's Home Tab works with Sense 2.5. I don't think that my out of the box Tilt 2 has that. Can anyone assist me in determining what I do and don't have access to? Also, if anyone else has had the Hyundai problem, I would be grateful to hear how they dealt with it.
Maraming salamat,
Miguel
Hey Guys,
Since Android hasn't finished yet i will not switch over yet, and wait wil switching OS.
instead of that i will use an Theme for the TP2. ( co0kies Home Tab )
i found co0kies home tab theme very great, as i searched for further info i found out that i need Manila 2.5 ( 2.5.1920, 2.5.1921, 2.5.1922, 2.5.2011, 2.5.2012 )
Where can i get this? After many hours of searching i found out that it might already be on the phone, but i dont know what version is on it.
can someone help me with this? Co0kie wrote this to find it out.
To check your Manila version: go to the settings tab in Sense, select "About phone", and then "Software Information".
If you have any problems with this mod please report your full Manila version (e.g. 2.5.xxxxxxxx), the device and ROM you are using.
Where is this tab named "Sence" ?
Can't find it anywhere x'D.
So, do i have Manila ?
If i dont, Where can i get this?
If i do, How can i see what version?
And if i found out what version, What is this tab named "Sence"
Another thing is that if something goes wrong, how can i return to the normal WM 6.5 ( NON - MODDED / THEMED )
Also, Last question.
Do i need to flash my phone for this?
Greetings
If you're still on the stock ROM that came with the phone, then you don't have Sense 2.5
The only way to get sense 2.5 in this case is to flash a rom with it. You should be able to get all the necessary information in the rom development forum
THANKS! i will search for this, very usefull !
Sence is the Bar below right? cause at Settings > More > Today > Items i have "HTC Sence" In the list.. and its checked on..
If i have this "Sence" Where can i get the Manila thing?
I found manila.exe in my File explorer\Windows\manila.exe
How can i see the version of it ?
xheroxkefx said:
THANKS! i will search for this, very usefull !
Sence is the Bar below right? cause at Settings > More > Today > Items i have "HTC Sence" In the list.. and its checked on..
If i have this "Sence" Where can i get the Manila thing?
I found manila.exe in my File explorer\Windows\manila.exe
How can i see the version of it ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Sense" is the entire pretty little graphical interface that you're playing with...the clock, the tabs on the slider, and everything in those tabs, is all the interface that HTC built to go on top of Windows Mobile. HTC has been calling their shell "manilla" for a long time, Sense is just the latest generation of that. There is no "sense tab", and the exact location of where you can see your sense version varies....which carrier's model of TP2 are you using?
However, it's kind of moot...like ctbear said, if you're still running the stock rom, you're not on 2.5 anyway, most likely 2.1, so you'll still need to flash a ROM if you want to use co0kie's home tab
i live in europe, and my carrier is Hi.nl so i dont really know what model im using..
thanks for the information, could you provide me with a link that has the 2.5 rom? i'm so afraid i will choose the wrong one since there are so many around
thanks for the information again!
Hey guys, flashing a ROM isn't the only way to get 2.5 on the phone. I followed the directions in the "Manila Sense 2.5 cab?" thread (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661941) after a Task29 and a couple of hard resets using the stock TMOUS 6.5 ROM...I have 2.5 running fine with the CAB from post #4 of that thread. I put CHT and CHT Editor on and all is well. It's way easier to use a Energy ROM, but I was having problems with messaging and connectivity so I went back to the stock ROM. As I said, all is well...going on the 3rd day with the setup and haven't had any hiccups. No tinfoil hat phantom usage issues, either.
YMMV, obviously.
xheroxkefx said:
i live in europe, and my carrier is Hi.nl so i dont really know what model im using..
thanks for the information, could you provide me with a link that has the 2.5 rom? i'm so afraid i will choose the wrong one since there are so many around
thanks for the information again!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you got the phone from KPN/HI you will have an unlocked TP2 for which you can get the latest Rom on the HTC website. Manillaversie: 2.5.20121225.0 is Sense 2.5. Original Dutch Rom should be 2.07.404.1 NLD.
If you need any more info let me know. You can also send me a Pb in Dutch if that would be easier for you.
ctbear said:
If you're still on the stock ROM that came with the phone, then you don't have Sense 2.5
The only way to get sense 2.5 in this case is to flash a rom with it. You should be able to get all the necessary information in the rom development forum
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In Norway the TP2 is now coming with Sense 2.5 as standard stock ROM.
To the question, slide the slider at the bottom to right(all the way) then you'll be at the settings tab, follow cokie's instructions from there...
-Sblindheim
You dont need to upgrade your rom to get Sense 2.5...
dwizzy130 said:
Look here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=108707
It can be done.
dwizzy130
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I myself havnt tried it as I DO flash roms. However, Xhero doesn't seem to know much about anything on this phone... nor to use the search feature... nor how to use google and search "The difference between Manilla and sense" Soooooo I wouldn't recommend flashing a phone just yet to him/her.
Xhero... do your reading.. LOTS of it before you start trying to customize your phone. You dont want to screw it up and then have to come back and start a new thread asking how to hard reset your phone... Please please learn how to search the forums too. The best advice that can be given to a new user. If its too difficult to use that search key in the top right of EVERY page on every thread on XDA then in google search what you are looking for and type "XDA" after it..... ie.. "Manilla 2.5 install cab XDA" or something like that and Bingo Bango you'll be brought to the thread!
A little research and common sense goes a long way. Have fun with your phone and remember to post relevant questions in the appropriate threads and you'll likely get your answers super quick!
I have allready guided him to the correct Romupdate from HTC. Yes there are other ways of getting Sense 2.5 but this is now the easiest way for him to obtain it.
In the Netherlands the TP2 is also now being shipped with Sense as I got mine last Saturday with the new Sense on there.