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Maximun SD card size

Hi
I bought my wife an XDA II a while ago on ebay -- all works fine but....
.... it's working on a 256mb SD card.
I now have a spare 1G and 2G SD card and trying to use them --- and they will not write or format
message ranges from "write protected" to "device in use" to "write failed"
Any ideas? - are they too new? are they too big, or do I need a special format program.
Cheers
Mike

I asked qtek about the maximum SD-card size. They said 2Gb, so I bought that. It is a 150x fast card. It works fine! Would like to have a 4Gb thou!
I have had no problems with my other SD-cards either (512kb and 1Gb). (All of them had been used in cameras before, no extra formatting needed).

Thanks for your reply, I will try a soft reset and then try again

Nothing I do works.
I have even tried Panasonic SDFormatter incase it's the formatting.
All errors so far this time say that the card is write protected - but it's not
Mmmmm

I've got it ...
Checked all the messages about SD cards and one suggested a fix.
It's physical - I just need a label over the write protect switch

also remember to format teh card from your pc in a card reader, and dont format as fat32, it must be fat16 or just fat, my m1000 hates fat32 and wont let me reformat or read the card.

Memory card

Hi!
Just got my first memory card ever - put it in but can't see or access it, not appearing in storage device.
its an 8gb mini used through an mini s adapter..
please help!!

Hi.
I had simillar problem with my card. Wizard is not like the other phones, it can't read cards which are damaged or not formatted. Obviously, yours is not damaged. Simply just access the card through your PC, format it, insert the card into the wizard (you will see no change at all so far), reset your phone and after windows mobile loads, it will ask you if you want to fomat the card - yes, format it. And there you go, you have yourself a storage device
Hope it works.
P.S.
There's also one other option, your card is too big to be handled by your device.

but it seems to be formatted
Hi. seems its formatted, although I did not format it.
I Put it into (vista) computer and it just worked. When I did a "show properties" on the card it was FAT 32 formatted.
Is there a Max limit to the size of card?

8gig mini or micro?
If it is a 8 gig micro your phone will not read it. Sorry will only ready mini sd's
not micros or mini sdhc.

even...
Hi!
even though I'm using a MicroSD adapter??
thanx

On my wiz, my card is running FatFS , not Fat32. It could make the difference, i am not sure. Since you are in a zero position, you have nothing to lose with one more format, so just format the card in your pc and restart your wizard with the card inserted. If this doesn't help, then greasemuntney is prolly right and you can't use this card.

fatfs
Hi so right
Whats FatFS??
thanx

as mentioned above the wizard does not support SDHC standard and your 8GB happens to be SDHC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_Memory_Card

awwwwwwwwwww c rap
damn... so is there a firmware upgrade? or something that I can do to upgrade the phone to use sdhc??
I got this card as a present so can't swap it?

Nope, you're bagged. Phone cannot read SDHC, no matter what kind of adapters, ROMs or firmware you attempt to employ. Try selling the chip on Craigslist and use the money to buy a bunch of 2GB cards.

SDHC
ok before a final verdict that wizard wouldn't read an sd that is in sdhc format (fat32 reliant) do note that i had the same problem but googled to find two solutions that didn't work alone yet combined did !
first of all you need to change the latency of the card read in registray as follows:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
“PNPUnloadDelay“=dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
“PNPWaitIODelay“=dword:8196
Note that the 8196 should be entered as a DECIMAL value. The HEXADECIMAL (HEX) equivalent is 0×00002004.
now attached are two sdhc drivers that require (acording to uploader) to be installed cab file first for registry tweaks and then replace both files installed in windows directory with others included in driver bundle. (through instruction guide in a txt file is included within zip file)
finally reboot , yet as a disclamer do note the following your device will not be backward compatible with regular sds . (not untill you hard reset it so it would restore original dlls and setting)

Interesting. If this works for anyone besides night-mayor, please post your hardware(G3/G4)/IPL/SPL...tracking successes and failures with this method will be valuable to other users.

In fact, you can only use standard SD cards (mini or micro with mini adapter) and the maximum capacity for standard SD protocol is 4GB, but it's difficult to find 4GB Standard SD cards (micor or mini).
Most of manufacturer actually sells HC card for 4GB size, and on web stores, it's often not very precise about HC or none HC.
Good luck...

List of working 4GB Mini SD cards.
If it ain't here, it ain't working, generally speaking (it is not comprehensive). As you can see, they do make 4GB cards that aren't using the HC configuration, but they are rare. One of the replies on the thread I linked to above even mentions an 8GB kit, but it did not work.

How do I use my previous 8gb MicroSD card...

I have put the card I used to use in my Raphael in to my HD2 and yes it saw it for a few seconds then 'poof' as if by magic it was gone! After trying several times cleaning the contacts etc I gave up.
Then I realised it was FAT32 and the newer 2GB card that was shipped with the phone was FAT format. So I wiped the card and reformatted to the FAT. Now its just not seeing it at all. Hmmm
I bought the SanDisk 8GB card with HC so it would be faster to access.... is this messing it up?
ANY IDEAS ITS DRIVING ME MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try to format it with the Control Panel> Administrative Tools> commputer Management> Disk Management

formatted sd card
Yeah thats how I did it originally, not its just freezing up everything that I put the card into.
DOH, HELP!

ne1 got ideas?

FAT support only storage up to 2GB, FAT32 2-32GB. So it has to be FAT32.
Try SD-hotfix for HD2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602527
I recomend Panasonic SDformatter 2.0 to clear your card (FAT32)

"Waiting for SD card" problem will never end :(

Hello, I'm not glad that i have to post this topic, but i think the whole story about "Waiting for SD card" problem will never end. I have 3 SD's at home, even one not works.
What i tried:
- i read a lot of topics about this problematics
- i tried to format my cards to fat32
- i tried clean cards
- i tried to format with special tools
- i tried customize startup.txt with msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave etc.
- i tried 5 versions of android, even one not works...
I will be very glad if someone helps me or gives me an advice what should i try
Thanks a lot!

Is any one of the sd cards you tried a "class 2"? Seems that class 6 sd cards have this problem.

unstable_ said:
Hello, I'm not glad that i have to post this topic, but i think the whole story about "Waiting for SD card" problem will never end. I have 3 SD's at home, even one not works.
What i tried:
- i read a lot of topics about this problematics
- i tried to format my cards to fat32
- i tried clean cards
- i tried to format with special tools
- i tried customize startup.txt with msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave etc.
- i tried 5 versions of android, even one not works...
I will be very glad if someone helps me or gives me an advice what should i try
Thanks a lot!
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no need to try more versions on your current SD cards. Go to look for some very old one, better smaller then 2GB.
I got 5 in my home, 2 of them works. Both of them are 2GB, bought 3 yrs ago.
None of new one could be used.

i realised the old versions of sd card works but the newer ones dun.

U shuld change SD card~~

Pretty Disappointing... I'm stuck too. I'm suprised it hasn't been fixed yet can't be that hard compared to everything else they've acheived.
I hope everyone involved keeps up the hard work but it'd be great for someone to revisit this problem.

its a hardware problem of the sd card, not a software problem.
it will never be fixed (its not possible).
its not like an sd card is too expensive ^^ just get another one...
have a look at this thread

N!ghty said:
its a hardware problem of the sd card, not a software problem.
it will never be fixed (its not possible).
its not like an sd card is too expensive ^^ just get another one...
have a look at this thread
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I tend to disagree. SD is a well known standard on the market.
The card that I have works fine for more than a year in Windows Mobile with Touch HD card reader. Without a single problem during that time. So everything: operating system, SD card and HTC HD card reader are fine.
It doesn't work with Android, so there is something wrong. Either with SD card initialization procedure, drivers or operating system (Android).
Unfortunately, I can't effort using 2GB card. I'm using my phone e.g. for books reading, music, photos, games etc. It's not only a phone I hope that all these hard working Android guys can fix this issue.

mlemanczyk said:
I tend to disagree. SD is a well known standard on the market.
The card that I have works fine for more than a year in Windows Mobile with Touch HD card reader. Without a single problem during that time. So both: operating system and HTC HD card reader are fine.
If it doesn't work with Android, it's Android's problem. Either with SD card initialization procedure, drivers or operating system (Android).
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we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
if you dont believe me:
try flashing a WM rom from the "problem sd card". u will see: it wont work.
now try booting android from the same sd card. u will see: it wont work.
now get another card u can boot android with.
now try flashing a WM rom from this sd card. u will see: it will work.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
i must say im not an expert but im not stupid either. i tried what i explained myself and thats just how it is...
if someone has a better explanation please correct me

N!ghty said:
we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
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What you're saying may be right. I'm not an expert either, so these are only my conclusions.
I think that what may be failing is the HSPL (Bios) that most people here loaded. I'm pretty sure that I was able to flash from SD card on my stock ROM. At some point it stopped working. I'll try to rollback to stock SPL (I'm not sure how to do it, yet) and confirm. So changed HSPL may be the issue.
Another question is, why SD drivers in either case are not loaded with the boot image. I don't know Android internals, so I can't tell if this is possible. But it would help in this case.
In both cases I don't think this is hardware issue that can't be resolved.

N!ghty said:
we are not looking at the sd card when its detected by the operating system but by the device itself.
the problem might be that the device is simply not capable to use some sdcards without the proper drivers (which the os then provides). what im saying is: before you enter the os the device might not detect some particular sd cards, but once the os is booted, it does.
the issue here is simple: if the device doesnt support the sd card, the os wont boot, this has nothing to do with the os.
if you dont believe me:
try flashing a WM rom from the "problem sd card". u will see: it wont work.
now try booting android from the same sd card. u will see: it wont work.
now get another card u can boot android with.
now try flashing a WM rom from this sd card. u will see: it will work.
conclusion: its a hardware problem.
i must say im not an expert but im not stupid either. i tried what i explained myself and thats just how it is...
if someone has a better explanation please correct me
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Sorry. You are wrong. I am frequently flash my phone using SD card with HSPL. But the card also face problem with Android. So definitely not the hardware problem.

Hello
I have 2 card's, one 8GB from Transcend and one 4GB from Kingston, and the kingston only works with android!
UPDATE: Transcend Class 6, Kingston Class 4

cereal86 said:
Hello
I have 2 card's, one 8GB from Transcend and one 4GB from Kingston, and the kingston only works with android!
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lucky guy

From my personal experience on my Kaiser I can confirm that newer SD cards do indeed seem to cause problems in Android, especially with installing or running from SD.
I have 3 SD cards I normally use for my phones, the newest a 4Gb class 6, which I have never been able to use for Android on Kaiser or Blackstone, I can't even flash with it, it just never works, using it for data storage works fine, just can't run Android from SD or Flash with it, the other 2 are 2Gb class 2's, both work just fine for flashing, and work great when using them for running Android builds from SD on Kais and Blac hardware.
My conclusions? Well I fall into the 'hardware problem' camp, mostly, since I can't flash either Winmo or Android with the class 6, it may be the card, but I wonder sometimes if it's the capacity, since both the class 2's are almost the same age as the class 6, all are sdhc, all 3 are from the same manufacturer , (SanDisk), in fact the only real difference is the capacity.

Waiting for SD Card
I have also tried a Transcend 8 GB SD Card and it doesn't work.
The same files on a Tanscend 1GB SD Card work just fine, so it's definitely a hardware problem caused by the card.
I've tried everything - formatting the card with different tools and different cluster sizes, partitioning the card below 4GB - all without success.
For all you guys out there with the "waiting for SD card" problem: Get a different (small) card !! - It's worth it !

what about this - copy files in the package into device internal memory and boot from there(i don´t know where to change booting directory in cfg...). if it created data.img on the sdcard, it would be fine solution...

kosmodisk said:
what about this - copy files in the package into device internal memory and boot from there(i don´t know where to change booting directory in cfg...). if it created data.img on the sdcard, it would be fine solution...
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Not sure it's that simple... once winmo is killed, the internal memory would have to be accessed natively by Android. It could be different for every device (where as SD is a standard, device agnostic format, internal memory isn't)
Whilst most HTC devices will work in an almost identical manner, there is no guarantee of what the internal memory is (it could actually be a HDD in theory).

I had this problem with my Transcend 8GB SD card, nothing solved it so I traded it for a Sandisk 8GB SD card with a colleague.
Works fine now. ^^

kalyster said:
I had this problem with my Transcend 8GB SD card, nothing solved it so I traded it for a Sandisk 8GB SD card with a colleague.
Works fine now. ^^
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I'm using a Transcend 8GB card...the one that came with my blackstone with no problems at all. Don't think I did anything special though, formatted to FAT32, installed android from a CAB (in this thread) loaded Android and then I copied my WinMo files back to the SD card as well.
One 2GB sandisk card I had though didn't work at all until I formatted it to FAT32 under linux, then it worked fine in WinMo and Android.
A friend also suggested to me trying to reduce the 'allocation unit size' when formatting the card but I've not tried that approach.

maybe u can try format SD Card to FAT (not FAT32 formatted i think.. maybe it FAT16)! i have 8gb and 2gb SD Cards.. and that all cards not work untill i formatted my 2gb SD Card to FAT!
CMIIW..

Sandisk 8GB micro SDHC card problem

Hello,
I use a Sandisk 8GB micro SDHC card in my Tattoo. The first problem is that the card is not always recognized. After a reboot it works mostly fine again. The second problem is that i lost sometimes all my data on the card without any reason, it is just gone in a moment, I have already formatted the card in my PC but without any success. It is also not possible to do a format in my Tattoo (not working). Any suggestions how to handle with this? Thanks a lot, Mark

try formating the card i have the same card and it works sharply.. (format twice. )

Oops
I was thinking about buying this card... But now I think I won't risk :\

marvon10 said:
Hello,
I use a Sandisk 8GB micro SDHC card in my Tattoo. The first problem is that the card is not always recognized. After a reboot it works mostly fine again. The second problem is that i lost sometimes all my data on the card without any reason, it is just gone in a moment, I have already formatted the card in my PC but without any success. It is also not possible to do a format in my Tattoo (not working). Any suggestions how to handle with this? Thanks a lot, Mark
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I have the same problem only my card is sandisk 4gb

Vieira said:
I was thinking about buying this card... But now I think I won't risk :\
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it will works fine here so think twice

I have the same problem only my card is kingstom 8gb class4

Try to format it with SD format tool: http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/

SD card problem
I have Kingston 4 GB class 4 card
same problem data deleting automatically specially pictures
I assuming this problem arises gold card transformation
I have change back original hex data but card problem not fixed
anyone help ?
BUT THIS SECTION FOR TATTOO GENERAL POST SHOULD MOVE TO ACCESSORIES

laughingcavalier said:
I've had this problem with my 8gb sandisk card too, but with froyo NFinity - had to format it the first time, and it was fine for a couple of days, then yesterday it came up with "Preparing SD Card", then "SD Card safe to remove" then "SDcard blank or has unsupported filesystem" in the notifications blind. Never had anything other than a FAT partition, and when I try to fomat it (on the phone, in Windows, in Linux) I can't. :/ I think my 4gb card was fine, but a bit scared to check now!
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and ser1993 has had the same problem.
(see nifinity gb thread)

I had the same problem with the same SD. Then I changed it for one of 4GB and then no more problems.

devdevdev said:
Try to format it with SD format tool: http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/
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This software works fine for me
anyone have SD problem try this software it will be correct
Thanks devdevdev