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Does anyone know if the the leo has an anti-scratch screen (like the HTC Hero, iphone do)?
or should we still use a screen protector like for the current blackstone?
It seems not...according to this unboxing video (no screen protector in the box)
www.solopalmari.com/news/windows-mobile/7547-htc-hd2-unboxing-esclusiva
Might be because it doesn't need one, what do you think?
I think it is an prerelease Version. Let us see, what will be in there...
When you go here you can read that there should be an pocket in the box...
It's likely that the HD2 has a glas display. Maybe that's already enough scratch resistant
Isobuster_1962 said:
I think it is an prerelease Version. Let us see, what will be in there...
When you go here you can read that there should be an pocket in the box...
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I don't think it's a prerelease I did see the "htc pro three" on the back of the device on this video
http://ai.rs/wp-content/uploads//2009/09/htc_leo_08.jpg
DinoZ1 said:
I don't think it's a prerelease I did see the "htc pro three" on the back of the device on this video
http://ai.rs/wp-content/uploads//2009/09/htc_leo_08.jpg
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Don't know where you saw that. In the video you can clearly see that there is NOT that prototype print, but instead the little one on the bottom of the battery cover (probably saying "with HTC Sense"). Look at the video beginning when they take out the device, and at 2:43 when they take off the plastic cover from the back =)
There you go:
http://img194.imageshack.us/i/leoback.tif/
...it's a glass display, therefore if you're going to scratch it with a key or whatever, then it will be scratched also with a tiny plastic film on it...
...moreover, as a capacitive screen, it would avoid proper finger contact.
...once again, it would decrease the brightness.
it wouldn't impact the finger contact too much. capacitive screens 'project' a field above the glass (which is why they are used in industrial apps where you can have a touchscreen monitor with inch thick glass on it)
and in some cases the screen protector can cut down on glare and help the screen's viewability in strong daylight
Isobuster_1962 said:
I think it is an prerelease Version. Let us see, what will be in there...
When you go here you can read that there should be an pocket in the box...
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I also agree with Iso because wen guys you see HTC sell this kind of High end device in that kind of very simple box no HTC logo with this device with a huge demand and also no user manual,no software CD,ect.just think this is the first windows phone with capacitive screen,using HTC sense and 1 GHZ.
Just got the phone, and the screen is a finger print magnet, when fingers are a little moist, it's difficult to move around the screen, AND I was beginning to get hairline scratches-I panicked to the T-Mobile store and purchased (16 bucks) 2 screen protectors and boy what a difference. The protector has a bit of a matte finish, gives the screen a bit of a grainy look to it. But in no way affect the screen sensitivity. In fact, it makes it easier to glide accross the screen, no finger smudges, and best of all-no worries about scratching the screen!
telegraph0000 said:
Just got the phone, and the screen is a finger print magnet, when fingers are a little moist, it's difficult to move around the screen, AND I was beginning to get hairline scratches-I panicked to the T-Mobile store and purchased (16 bucks) 2 screen protectors and boy what a difference. The protector has a bit of a matte finish, gives the screen a bit of a grainy look to it. But in no way affect the screen sensitivity. In fact, it makes it easier to glide accross the screen, no finger smudges, and best of all-no worries about scratching the screen!
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I just carry mine in the leather pouch it came with.
You get used to removing it after a week..
I don't have a screen protector on mine, just the silicone case it came with. Been putting it in my pocket for 2 months now, no scratch, still mint condition.
No Problem with mines
I have a silicone case on it and no screen protector. I purchased the phone the first day it came out and the guy who was ringing me up told me that the screen is made to be scratch resistant. That's why mines never got scratched along with the guy above me. I still was like should I buy a screen protector to be safe? He said, when he orders his, he's not putting one on. SO I was like okay. lol and it's still all fine and well.
I've got a cheapo screen protector from HK (good ol' fleabay) as it cuts out reflections a lot.
I am still not 100% sure about if I need a screen protector or not.
Deciding factor is if it is possible to scratch?
Has anyone scratched there screen yet?
Lets do a poll to see if people are trusting the glass or not?
This glass seems scratch proof from most posts. I would only get one if there are Fingerprint resistance and Anti-Glare issues.
I won't get a screen protector for mine, shouldn't be necessary - I'm careful and don't keep keys in the same pocket. I had my i8910, also a glass capacitive screen, for six months and the screen is pristine.
I bought mines from htc direct yesterday, will post results on how the screen works afterwards.
I really need screen protector because i scratch all my phones, so lets keep this one new as long as I can.
well, imho the glass should be enough to handle your nails, keys etc... but i would suggest a pouch, or flip-it case, because that glas may shatter when dropped to ground (it does happen from time to time... my g/f dropped my phone twice, and me... maybe 3times)
I can't trust the glass and with a good reason my screen is cracked.
It's going back to HTC I've got to call them later today.
So yes I'll be fitting my screen protectors (that turned up the same day the phone broke)
I've voted on the too late option
Brando has them available on their website!
mitchec1 said:
I can't trust the glass and with a good reason my screen is cracked.
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In fairness, scratched and cracked are very different things.
How did you crack it?
A screen protector will not stop a screen getting cracked it will only protect against scratches.
I don't intend to get a screen protector for mine, I've used them on my previous touch-screen phones and they've done a good job in protecting the plastic screens, but with the HD2's capacitive screen being glass it should be resistance to scratching anyway. Fingerprints are a minor problem, but then they are on any touch screen device.
The htc screen protector will stop the proximity sensor to work properly.
I have already tested the Brando Ultra Clear screen protector and the proximity sensor works without problems.
However, the "touch sense" is much inferior when compared to the naked glass.
I am thinking to remove it.
Iam using this screen protector from first day (Used the device for few hours without screen protector initially to test the sensitivity).
I don't find much reduction in sensitivity. Instead, i find the sensitivity to be perfect with the screen protector.
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....&product=78B33B51-E9FE-478C-97F1-792FD4094EE7
acostaf said:
The htc screen protector will stop the proximity sensor to work properly.
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no it won't the iPhone had no trouble with this, so i don't see why the HD2 would either.
johncmolyneux said:
In fairness, scratched and cracked are very different things.
How did you crack it?
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The mrs pressed the screen and it just gave way, it hadn't been dropped or even used that much. Can't figure out what happened tbh the LCD part is fine and it still responds to key presses.
HTC are picking it up tomorrow.
diablous said:
no it won't the iPhone had no trouble with this, so i don't see why the HD2 would either.
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The problem is not the phone but the htc's screen protector
Can someone confirm if the official HTC screen protector messes with the proximity sensor?
I've just ordered myself a few of these...
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/vikuiti-dqc-160-screen-protector-htc-hd2-28087.html
They're a bit pricey, but they sound ideal. I especially like the fact you can take it off, wash it, and put it back on. I'm forever going through screen protectors because I'm such a pedant! One single speck of dust, and I take it off! lol
mitchec1 said:
The mrs pressed the screen and it just gave way, it hadn't been dropped or even used that much. Can't figure out what happened tbh the LCD part is fine and it still responds to key presses.
HTC are picking it up tomorrow.
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So she ain't the Mrs any more then? lol
It's very fair to say that a screen protector wouldn't have done a thing to help that. Glad to see HTC being so prompt about providing a replacement though.
acostaf said:
The htc screen protector will stop the proximity sensor to work properly.
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It doesn't mate.
I briefly had a screen protector on mine and everything functioned as normal. I know for a fact that the proximity sensor works because I just tested it by sticking a bit of the discarded protector over it and making a call.
Everything worked just fine.
Edit: Sorry - just noticed you're talking about the official HTC ones. I'm not.
You said you briefly had a screen protector. Why did you take it off?
I don't put a screen protector on my watches so I don't see why I should on my HD2 either. I have always put screen protectors on plastic-fronted handsets but now they are going with glass I don't see the point. After all, if you look after it it shouldn't get scratched now!
My HD2 was developing an issue with it's screen, white patches were appearing. So I sent it off to O2 to be repaired, and while the problem has been fixed, it's been returned with a non-glass screen with no diamond shaped etching on it like I had on the original.
Anyone else had this?
what do you mean by diamond shaped etching? and is it still multitouch?
If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
Pagnell said:
If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
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Are there any other notable differences? Is it more easily scratched, less transparent, more reflective, etc.?
If so, then yes, you should definitely complain.
as plastic is alot more prone to scratches, i would complain...
Pagnell said:
If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
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I understand this must be really annoying for you, but tbh I find it really interesting.
Is your new screen still capacitive? Does a normal stylus or other object still work on it? (ie. is it still resistive?)
I never realised you could get multitouch plastic screens....
i would definitely file a complain. you bought your hd2 with a glass screen and its weird that its plastic. yes there are diamond shaped etchings in the glass screen.
so all capacitive screens should be glass covered? hmm... interesting.
Pagnell said:
If you look closely on the HD2, the screen has fine diagonal lines etched on the glass which cross making what appears to be diamond shapes on the screen. The screen on mine isn't glass now, it's plastic and those fine lines aren't there. I was just wondering if anyone else had had a repair and had the same thing happen.
It is still mutlitouch. I'm just trying to decide if I should complain.
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I had mine repaired and yes, the lines seem to be gone. I think this has to do with the improved hardware and not because its plastic.
f*ck that. complain, you bought the hd2 and you want it back the same way you bought it.
WHOA!
This is either a HUGE insight to something about the amount of screen blotches being received.
or
You are dealing with a crappy fix.
I honestly have never heard of a PLASTIC CAPACITIVE LENS!?!?!
Will this be a common resolution to HD2 shatter/blotch?
there are capacative screens with plastic face...
the samsung f480 has one either
Hmmm
pkchips said:
I understand this must be really annoying for you, but tbh I find it really interesting.
Is your new screen still capacitive? Does a normal stylus or other object still work on it? (ie. is it still resistive?)
I never realised you could get multitouch plastic screens....
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Battle to the finish.
CyberSniper said:
I had mine repaired and yes, the lines seem to be gone. I think this has to do with the improved hardware and not because its plastic.
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That's good to know, maybe I'm wrong about it being plastic although it doesn't feel the same. Is your's definitely still glass?
Why not post some pics here ? Wanna see it. Best would be to do the pics in various angles to a light source to see what consistency it has ............
I noticed the diamond etchings on my HD2 straight out of the box brand new, still glass though.
may be we should look at tmob us screen and see it's type
Oberoth said:
there are capacative screens with plastic face...
the samsung f480 has one either
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All capacitivie screens are made of glass - or else the technology wouldn't work since its basically a grid with electric current covering the screen, and this grid you disturb with your fingers. Plastic is NOT leading electricity so it would not work. And btw, the Samsung F480 has a Resistive touchscreen.
That's not strictly true. Neither glass nor plastic conduct electricity - but both act as a dielectric for electrostatic fields. A capacitive touch screen can theoretically work with either plastic or glass (or even air), because capacitive touch doesn't actually require that you touch the screen.
glass conduct electricity
Strictly speaking, hardly anything conducts no electricity, it's just a question of a material's resistance and therefore the amount.
Hello,
Does anyone know of a way I can fix a small (2/3") light scratch on my Nexus' screen without replacing the whole thing? The scratch is just visible enough to be annoying and can barely be felt when running your fingernail over it to give you an idea of how deep/shallow it is. I was hoping maybe some good glass polish and microfiber cloth might smooth it out...
I also heard that a good screen protector can pretty much hide small scratches as well. I thought about getting the seidio cover, but really wanted to repair the scratch first.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Wes
Polish would be the best bet I reckon.
How did you manage to scratch it?
I thought the Nexus' screen was near scratch resistant (excluding falls, concrete, sand, etc)?
Anything harder than glass can scratch it. I used to think that rubbing it on my jeans was safe. But I think there was a small particle of something. I scratched it Barely visible though, wouldn't even call it a hairline scratch. But there was something there that could scratch the glass, a small particle of sand or even a glass dust particle or something would do it.
i have a bunch of very tiny micro scratches that can only be seen in direct sunlight. and i've babied my phone like no other. nothing except my finger tip has touched the screen. i'd like if others can test their phones in the sunlight to compare. no its not the diagonal touch digitizer. these scratches are vertical and some horizontal, right near the center of the screen, where you would scroll on web pages etc.
since i've literally babied this phone, and these scratches keep getting worse by the day, i can only assume that this is normal and everybody is having these scratches. i have probably 40-50 at this point.
FYI in a normally lit room, my screen looks FANTASTIC, and you would not for one second think there is any such micro scratches. but in sunlight, sure enough, they are there, only can see them at a certain angle.
also i cannot feel these scratches, they are really that small where its not noticeable. but they are absolutely from scrolling the screen. and i touch this thing so lightly its like i barely touch it at all!!
please check your phone too. thanks.
Thanks for all the replies. I have no idea how it got scratched...it resides alone in my front pocket most of the day. I ordered a seidio clear screen protector for it so hopefully it won't get anymore...
Mine are only visible in direct light, too. I can't see them when the screen is on, but when the sun or a light source shines directly on it I can see them. They aren't bad...just noticeable to be annoying...Haha.
Anyway, I guess I will just live with it since I am not very good with polishing compounds and will probably just end up with lots of swirl marks. I just hope they scratches don't grow into cracks with day-to-day use.
Edited: It does make me feel better that I am not the only one with scratch issues.
Thanks again.
Wes
I recommend iDrops. I have a bottle at my disposal and I have removed all kinds of scratches from my various phones and electronics.. Luckily I haven't had to use it on my Nexus yet, but I have no worries that'll it'll work great if I ever need them.
It's a little pricey, but well worth it for how well they work (as long as you follow the directions and spend the TIME it takes to remove the scratches)
http://podshop.com/idrops/
I recommend iDrops.
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I just ordered a bottle. If this works, I will recommend it to all my friends...a product that actually removes (or at least covers up) scratches well can make a lot of money...
I really hope it works.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Edited: Do I need to do the whole phone screen to avoid making a "depression" where the scratch is?
Wes
so still nobody has checked their phone in the sunlight to confirm if they too have scratches on the screen?
Sorry since the scratch I got I've put a screen protector on it. Can't even see the scratch I had and I can't see any faint ones in the middle.
yeah i got a screen protector too, can't mess around with a $600 dollar phone.
RogerPodacter said:
so still nobody has checked their phone in the sunlight to confirm if they too have scratches on the screen?
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if you are talking about the diagonal lines visible in bright sunlight those are the touchscreen digitizer.
Ive been babying mine aswell, never in pocket with keys or anything, come to notice there is one tiny scratch right on the edge of the screen(black part, left side midscreen) but its there nonetheless, just an eye sore blah
Chevytuff19 said:
I just ordered a bottle. If this works, I will recommend it to all my friends...a product that actually removes (or at least covers up) scratches well can make a lot of money...
I really hope it works.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Edited: Do I need to do the whole phone screen to avoid making a "depression" where the scratch is?
Wes
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No, you can Just do the spot where the scratch is.
My best suggestion is to spend time on it. Count on at least an hour of polishing it.
RogerPodacter said:
since i've literally babied this phone, and these scratches keep getting worse by the day, i can only assume that this is normal and everybody is having these scratches.
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I'm not, just for the record. And I haven't kept special care of it, I regret to say.
After owning my Tegra 7 for a few weeks now, I only just realised that the digizer actually extends out further than the visible screen on all sides of the bezel - in fact, the touch sensitivity goes almost to the edge. I'm not sure yet whether I like this. It does make it easier to scroll. But I have a feeling that some of the funny touch screen issues I've been having might b be caused because I've been holding the tablet on the bezel - beyond the LCD screen, but it is still picking up my touch.
Can others confirm this on their devices?
Yeah me too, i can scroll while touching the black bezel of the digitizer.
perez6991 said:
Yeah me too, i can scroll while touching the black bezel of the digitizer.
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I second that...causes some unintended inputs at times.