ive been trying to decide if i want to wait for the us tmobiles leo or order the telstra one now and im very undecided. what will decide it for me,is wether every hd2 will be upgradeable to wm7 or just the us one?anyone know?
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ive been trying to decide if i want to wait for the us tmobiles leo or order the telstra one now and im very undecided. what will decide it for me,is wether every hd2 will be upgradeable to wm7 or just the us one?anyone know?
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they cannot offer updates for some devices and other not if they are under the same name hd2 if one gets it other will
thats what i was thinking,but the leak req for wm7 says 1 gig rom,and only the us version has that
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thats what i was thinking,but the leak req for wm7 says 1 gig rom,and only the us version has that
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1GB was recommended, but only 512 required.
Anyway, and more importantly, that was not leaked specs. It was a rumor. We might know more next week, so just wait and see.
lol but i want my big shiny new phone now!!!lol
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lol but i want my big shiny new phone now!!!lol
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then buy the only on the market right now
We will have some more information about WM7 next week (and we'll have actually seen it too!) but that doesn't mean we'll know if it will be available for the HD2.
No-one can give you a 100% yes or no answer to your question right now. You may only have to wait a week, but you may have to wait months before someone can.
If I were you, I'd forget about WM7 and concentrate on what phone you want right now. WM7 was put back to the end of this year (potentially 9 months from now), but I've seen rumours that it's been put back until "some time in 2011", so it could be over a year away.
Seriously, forget WM7 for now. Sorry mate
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but I've seen rumours that it's been put back until "some time in 2011", so it could be over a year away.
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Not true. They plan to have it released on (LG, HTC) phones in September.
Other than that: WM7 definitely runs on the HD2. 512MB ROM are enough.
Will it get an official upgrade? Nobody knows. Maybe HTC will say more next week.
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Not true. They plan to have it released on (LG, HTC) phones in September.
Other than that: WM7 definitely runs on the HD2. 512MB ROM are enough.
Will it get an official upgrade? Nobody knows. Maybe HTC will say more next week.
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This too is nothing but speculation I believe, as far as I know there hasn't been any official system requirements or planned release dates.
This is not speculation, this is knowledge.
When I say "definitely", then what I say is definitely right. I'm not like some other users here, who pretend they know something by using words like "definitely", when in fact, they have no clue at all.
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Not true. They plan to have it released on (LG, HTC) phones in September.
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Yes mate - I take it back. I'd totally forgot about that. Cheers
so then i ordered the telstra one,i woulda missed the 3g connection anyway,thankyou guys for the help
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If / when the win phone 7 update arrives one should realy think about if one should update.
I'm going on the news on the subject as it is coming in now, but there will be no multi-tasking, no installing apps (.cab) other then their marketplace, no backwards compatibility for the apps you use now, no 3rd party interface (no sense, no spb, no adv desktop) and more questionable changes.
Let's hope their zune meets iphone rip-off meets your expectations of it and is in any way usable.
(As you may have noticed, I'm not hopefull)
Ah well, if it doesn't we'll just jailbreak the m*ther
MS is yet to produce something that wasn't "assimilated" in the community before it hit the stores.
Also
don't forget that with win phone 7 there will be no Internet connection, no WiFi, and no GUI whatsoever, only CLI.
I'm going on the news on the subject as it is coming in now, but there will be no multi-tasking, no installing apps (.cab) other then their marketplace, no backwards compatibility for the apps you use now, no 3rd party interface (no sense, no spb, no adv desktop) and more questionable changes.
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Nothing but speculation.
Do you believe everything you read somewhere? Yes? Well, did you know the Russian government wants to kill you and only I can save you, if you give me all your money? Yep. Hurry up
zSpinner said:
If / when the win phone 7 update arrives one should realy think about if one should update.
I'm going on the news on the subject as it is coming in now, but there will be no multi-tasking, no installing apps (.cab) other then their marketplace, no backwards compatibility for the apps you use now, no 3rd party interface (no sense, no spb, no adv desktop) and more questionable changes.
Let's hope their zune meets iphone rip-off meets your expectations of it and is in any way usable.
(As you may have noticed, I'm not hopefull)
Ah well, if it doesn't we'll just jailbreak the m*ther
MS is yet to produce something that wasn't "assimilated" in the community before it hit the stores.
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rumor quoted as fact, again.
funny rumors
freyberry said:
This is not speculation, this is knowledge.
When I say "definitely", then what I say is definitely right. I'm not like some other users here, who pretend they know something by using words like "definitely", when in fact, they have no clue at all.
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waw, such a confident post, I hope your knowledges are right, but we all know how the software development works, and till September there is plenty of time to push milestones forward and also which company will bring such a major updates for more than one year old device? ( it will be nice but marketing department will probably disagree )
So if you know something just tell us, or are you afraid that big bad corporation eat you or your favorites, Russian government will kill you if you do not give somebody your money?
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but we all know how the software development works, and till September there is plenty of time to push milestones forward
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I'm only saying what is now, there can always go something wrong, maybe it'll never be released or maybe they suddenly decide to only support devices with 2GHz Dual-Core processors or whatever...
Hope
Well, I was just putting it out there.
It is, as you say, still speculation.
Though I would not be surprised if MS was to come with something they controll completely, to make money of it.
But we'll know soon enough, they'll tell us in Spain this week.
Sure hope win phone 7 is something we can enjoy, a.s.o. something that will enoy the $h1t out of us faithfull winmo users.
Please tell me I won't have to do that "cloud" thing called android, google allready knows enough about me. I hate the cloud: my stuff is mine and should be on my stuff, but that's off topic.
Fact though, is that winmo doesn't give me much more then it did when it was on my wizzard few years back. It's HTC that makes it worth while with sense and stuff like that.
MS better have something good to beat that. And history doesn't encourage me much.
Well, I was just putting it out there.
It is, as you say, still speculation.
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You just shouldn't quote that speculation as if it was fact.
Other than that, I certainly hope that those rumors are wrong. Mel Sampat (the guy who works on the Windows Mobile 7 calendar) told me not to belive those kinds of rumor. I wouldn't take that as confirmation, however.
The user interface looks to be great, by the way. Really great. But the best UI in the world will not bring me over to an OS that's as limited as the iPhone's. I had some iPhones, and I certainly never want to use such a limited device again.
Anyway, all the speculation is useless, cause there are three days left and all I hope is that those questions will be answered, then.
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In my opinion, the HD2 will be outdated very soon (Software part) unless HTC announces an official Windows Mobile 7 upgrade. What do you think?
Worrying about official upgrades is a waste of time if you're a member of XDA-Devs...
I will buy this phone when it's released, but sure hope the phone get's a update for windows mobile 7
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Worrying about official upgrades is a waste of time if you're a member of XDA-Devs...
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fully agreed, kinda waste of time to poll something that no one can find the answer.
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Worrying about official upgrades is a waste of time if you're a member of XDA-Devs...
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That's BS... if you want a bug free phone. ROMS are great for extra functionality, but lets face it, they can be the cause of many headaches especially if you have an extremely busy schedule.
As to the original question. I would be shocked if the HD2 got a WM7 upgrade. Just as HTC didn't upgrade the HD to WM6.5, I doubt they'll be updating the HD2.
I don't think any phone will get Win7 upgradability, just b/c if 7 turns out to be as great as we hope it to be, manufacturers will want to milk every last dime out of us to get us to upgrade. (6.5, 6.1, and even 6.0 were different, as they changed very little besides a minimal amount of skinning between builds)
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fully agreed, kinda waste of time to poll something that no one can find the answer.
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You didn't get it bro,
If you are a member of XDA you will get the upgrade
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You didn't get it bro,
If you are a member of XDA you will get the upgrade
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Shure Thing
I dont think HD2 get WM7 upgrade, when 7 is coming HTC have new phones for that and HTC has a history to forget all they old customers/devices.
also worth remembering that WM7 might be a step backwards!!
consider the change from windows 98 to millenium...a disaster!!..or XP to Vista..just as much a disaster..
don't go thinking that WM7 will be the best thing you've ever seen...it might be, but it might not.
WM7 will not be out for another 10-12 months, maybe longer. Microsoft officially announced WM 6.5 just last week. It think by the time we get the first phone with WM7, HD2's hardware will be obsolete. We will probably be looking at something with at least 2 GHz and 1 GB RAM by then.
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also worth remembering that WM7 might be a step backwards!!
consider the change from windows 98 to millenium...a disaster!!..or XP to Vista..just as much a disaster..
don't go thinking that WM7 will be the best thing you've ever seen...it might be, but it might not.
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Doubtful: PC based Win 7 is getting good, not glowing, reviews. The major consensus is the improved speed via lightened kernel. WinMo 7 will be a step in the right direction to ward off further losses to android and greater customer satisfaction.
I'm not saying it's going to be awful, but it just seems that a lot of poeple are syaing 'we must have WM7...we need it desperately..'....where as I think they should just wait and see. They are in danger of making the jump, finding it isn't that great and then blaming MS for giving a crap product
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I'm not saying it's going to be awful, but it just seems that a lot of poeple are syaing 'we must have WM7...we need it desperately..'....where as I think they should just wait and see. They are in danger of making the jump, finding it isn't that great and then blaming MS for giving a crap product
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Well if wm 7 turns out to be worse than wm 6.5 then whom should we blame but microsoft? It's their product and they've been hyping it for years.
again, I'm not against that point, what I'm saying is why is there so much "we MUST have WM7" and "I only want this phone if I get WM7"??
here's an idea..why not buy a crap nokia, and wait for a year then get a new phone if WM7 is what you're waiting for?
I like WinMo OS and I am not planning to use any other OS anytime soon but it is annoying that I need to upgrade my less than a year HD to the HD2 to get more software features which is in this case WinMo 6.5
magic question is
why apple and android owners have a periodic updates adding new features while we have to buy a new phone to get these updates?
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In my opinion, the HD2 will be outdated very soon (Software part) unless HTC announces an official Windows Mobile 7 upgrade. What do you think?
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not unless we here at xda are not capable of putting android or maemo on it
qsd8250 will not be hard enough for an android port.
cheers.
Well, I don't care for Android, so whatever happens with that OS is highly irrelevant. I'm sure I'm not alone.
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I like WinMo OS and I am not planning to use any other OS anytime soon but it is annoying that I need to upgrade my less than a year HD to the HD2 to get more software features which is in this case WinMo 6.5
magic question is
why apple and android owners have a periodic updates adding new features while we have to buy a new phone to get these updates?
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Because HTC prefer to sell a new phone than offering an OS update to exisiting phone for more profit.
An OS upgrade would cost money to HTC - licensing fees, development costs etc. Since they seem to have a useful lifetime of their flagship model of about 1 year and try to release new ones during the pre-Christmas shopping season, it would be fairly stupid of them to cannibalize sales of their new models by spending money on upgrading older ones.
The mid-model year phones get their upgrades quite often though. So I'd venture to guess that if WM7 gets released early next year and it's not too far away from WM6.5 in terms of porting applications etc. getting an official upgrade would not be impossible... If WM7 is more than half a year away I'd say forget about it.
What advantages would Windows Mobile 7 have over 6.5? I thought the new Manila 2.5 basically reskinned the entire OS. The only thing unique I've seen so far is they announced Zune integration with WM7. That feature should be pretty cool.
Do you think prices for the phone will start falling? The phone is essentially a dead end unless the wizards of xda cook something up.
I cannot stand this blabbering about "HD2 as a dead phone". There is NO WP7S to come within the next at least 6 months... AND WP6.5.x seems to go on. HD2 is still THE phone that you have to buy today if you want by far the best Win-Phone. The prices won't suffer some kind of inflation too soon... It hasn't been launched in the US at all and it stays the HTC-flagship until HD3 will be launched in the end of this year.
Well the price for the phone through mobile service providers is already low... I got mine for 79€ and another 24 months commitment.
I don't really see why they'd bring the price down any lower... They never claimed it would be upgradable to WP7 so why should they feel obliged to lower the price?
Am I the only one who wants to wait and see what WP7 turns out like before even considering using it? I think it looks interesting but I'm far from sure that it will be able to meet my needs as well as the HD2 and WM6.5 does.
US phones
It essentially is a dead end product. We don't know if xda's cooks will be able to get 7 going on it. I'd like to buy a phone that will last me a couple of years. The Australian version that works with AT&T here in the US, is still very expensive for us. Almost $1,000. Too much money for me. I can't imagine switching over to t-mobile though.
Price will come down anyways. It will take some times but you can get them with some carriers for cheaper as other posters have mentioned.
I don't see any relationship between the price and actually the phone not being upgradable to WP7.
It is still too early to see anything.
IF there is a "WP7-related" price fall at some point, it won't be before WP7 devices are actually selling. You've got time ahead.
Are all the people who keep repeating HD2 is 'dead-end', 'outdated', 'old', 'no wp7 upgrade' looking to buy up some cheap HD2s on ebay?
it is a dead end NOW, cause developers are ALREADY abandoning wm6.5.x
like adobe, skype and a lot more.
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Are all the people who keep repeating HD2 is 'dead-end', 'outdated', 'old', 'no wp7 upgrade' looking to buy up some cheap HD2s on ebay?
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good point
I cant wait to flash Android on my phone.
Windows will never make it, people aren't writing that much for it any more.
RIP
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It essentially is a dead end product. We don't know if xda's cooks will be able to get 7 going on it. I'd like to buy a phone that will last me a couple of years. The Australian version that works with AT&T here in the US, is still very expensive for us. Almost $1,000. Too much money for me. I can't imagine switching over to t-mobile though.
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why on earth you say such bulls**ts?
Dead end my a$$! There are people all over the world working with their HTC Touch Diamond and WM6.5 with the help of xda's chefs!
You got the most powerfull device on the market and you already say that is dead while WM6.5 was released no more than 6 months ago? Dear friend you're totally OUT! You better buy an Iphone and work with a closed minded, kid oriented operated system istead of the best OS and phone on the market.
The HD2 is the BEST phone on the market today, no questions and I think it will not be reached very soon. Fast, smooth and good looking.
With help of the chefs, this device will last very long.
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why on earth you say such bulls**ts?
Dead end my a$$! There are people all over the world working with their HTC Touch Diamond and WM6.5 with the help of xda's chefs!
You got the most powerfull device on the market and you already say that is dead while WM6.5 was released no more than 6 months ago? Dear friend you're totally OUT! You better buy an Iphone and work with a closed minded, kid oriented operated system istead of the best OS and phone on the market.
The HD2 is the BEST phone on the market today, no questions and I think it will not be reached very soon. Fast, smooth and good looking.
With help of the chefs, this device will last very long.
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then you are happy u wont get FLASH 10.1 from adobe like the one on android? U are happy that most companies have abandon developing for WinMO 6.5??
no more support from skype and etc etc???
its already a dead end thanx to microsoft
Microsoft confirms lack of backward compatibility in Windows Phone 7
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13936
This obviously killed WinMO 6.5 and below.
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It essentially is a dead end product. We don't know if xda's cooks will be able to get 7 going on it. I'd like to buy a phone that will last me a couple of years. The Australian version that works with AT&T here in the US, is still very expensive for us. Almost $1,000. Too much money for me. I can't imagine switching over to t-mobile though.
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I guess you need to buy an iphone if you want software upgrades to newer OS versions. But then again......who knows whether Apple will continue this. After all they always used to shaft ipod users: As soon as a new model was out NO more updates for the previous one!
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then you are happy u wont get FLASH 10.1 from adobe like the one on android? U are happy that most companies have abandon developing for WinMO 6.5??
no more support from skype and etc etc???
its already a dead end thanx to microsoft
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chefs are here... HD2 got the power to run WP7... so where is the problem?
I bet my a$$ that we'll have cooked ROM with WP7 on our HD2...
HD2 RULZ
yeah...if we are able to port/cook wm7 on our phones,that would be great..if not..then i guess ALL the WM6.5 phones and below are dead end..
I mean before this,newly release winmo still support backward compatibility. In fact my old age dopod 838 pro with WM 5.0 can still run current apps without prob.
damn u MS for making Wp7s backward incompatible, and no multitask (hope it will have multitask, waiting for mix10)
u killed the power of WInMO to make something pretty and brainless.
Im damn pissed and dissapointed about WM7S... haih..
No now flash 10.1..and i they wont even be a latest version of skype on winMO..more and more developers are abandoning WinMO 6.5 NOW.
damn frustated.
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Am I the only one who wants to wait and see what WP7 turns out like before even considering using it? I think it looks interesting but I'm far from sure that it will be able to meet my needs as well as the HD2 and WM6.5 does.
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Totally agree. HD2 meets my current and future needs right now until my upgrade next year, only then will i consider what is on the market.
The world is ending??!!
My God! Run! Everyone for themselves!
it is not 100% confirmed now that hd2 will not get update ,they are keeping this suspebnded to never lower any device price
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yeah...if we are able to port/cook wm7 on our phones,that would be great..if not..then i guess ALL the WM6.5 phones and below are dead end..
I mean before this,newly release winmo still support backward compatibility. In fact my old age dopod 838 pro with WM 5.0 can still run current apps without prob.
damn u MS for making Wp7s backward incompatible, and no multitask (hope it will have multitask, waiting for mix10)
u killed the power of WInMO to make something pretty and brainless.
Im damn pissed and dissapointed about WM7S... haih..
No now flash 10.1..and i they wont even be a latest version of skype on winMO..more and more developers are abandoning WinMO 6.5 NOW.
damn frustated.
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Is there an official statement of any of that from MS themselves? Or are you just jumping on the bandwagon and spouting "what I 'eard of't internet"
I went ahead and made a petition for Android on the HD2. HTC probably won't care and it sucks that it's come to this but whatever. At least this way we'd have an amazing device WITH an OS that will be supported down the line. Theres a field to state whether you're a current or potential owner as well. I couldn't hotlink since I'm a newb so add the www below...
petitiononline.com/And4HD2/petition.html
It would be good
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HTC probably won't care and it sucks that it's come to this...
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Hmnn, good luck with that. I doubt that HTC would care. They are a commercial organsiation, they sell phones, hell, they've won, they got you (and me) to buy an HD2. I chose it for what it was at the time, and it's still the same excellent phone. Developments and politics surrounding Windows Phone 7 Series hasn't affected it's ability to operate. HTC will be wanting people to buy Desires and Supersonics and whatever the next big Android phone is. You might get Android via the back door if someone ports it from a similar spec'd device but i honestly think nothing official will happen. The small number of people interested in migrating their HD2's to Android would be a tiny drop in a massive ocean of commercial opportunities for HTC (but how many people would demand it it to be free if HTC offered it but asked for a porting charge for any driver development changes?). I really don't think that the disappointment felt by some that their HD2's won't be officially, and freely, upgraded to Windows Phone 7 Series is of interest to HTC (or Microsoft either).
That's my honest opinion. Good luck.
there's no way in hell HTC would do this with Desire coming out.
I'm with u Pikasso1, it would be nice to have another O.S in our HD's (Android, linux), only to **** MS to hell!, in my opinion, I don't care if MS brings WinMo 7 to another phones and not to HD2, with 3, 4 or 532 buttons, I piss off over it, I changed from an I900 Omnia to HD2 by the capacitative screen ONLY (I use caps lock to mark the only reason, not big screen, SnapDragon, or nothing else), MS tells us that don't upgrade, HTC get a slap in the face, ****'em & HTC!, the phone itself it's a big machine, I can do a lot of things (even call! ), I think there is HD2 for long (and WinMo 6.5 too), I'll can see videos, hear music, surf internet, and a lot of things without WinMo 7 or another O.S.
How many phones with WinMO are on market? 0?, not yet?, how many with another 6.0, 6.5? millions?, it's like a big soccer score!, in my country there is a phrase to describe this moment...to MS & HTC...Zas! en toda la boca! (Peter Griffin).
i signed it, but htc would never do this... it would kill desire & supersonic
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i signed it, but htc would never do this... it would kill desire & supersonic
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Sigh... it's true, but it's so rare that T-Mobile US gets good hardware and the one time it does... well, you know. I'd switch carriers if I wasn't paying $70 per month for unlimited everything.
http://petitiononline.com/And4HD2/petition.html
Ha, it won't even let me quote your hotlink.
Thanks!
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hell, they've won, they got you (and me) to buy an HD2.
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Actually, I haven't bought one yet, but I'm on T-Mobile and I want one! But it's harder to justify the purchase right now. It's my favorite hardware design by a wide margin though. Plus I just thought, why not make a petition?
Well I would pay for the Android port, just for the choice, we all switch roms to improve performance. So switching between OS gives more choice, but it's not gonna happen.....…
Double LOL on this, what would be next, a petition to FORD to make an alectric engine for your car with diesel engine?
You bought winmo device not an open platform hardware.
MS should read this forum and find out how bad they truly are...
maybe they aldready have..
signed the petition.... expected to see alot more sigs on there than 33
signed.. we need more people!!!
Well I signed, a famous saying springs to mind..... Judge not those who try and fail, but those who fail to try....
Just sign any way, you never know.
signed...!
seriously, terribly disappointed that w7ps would not be made available to the HD2 just because of the button layout.
screw you HTC!
Signed it just for fun and to see how many people this hits... I expect we'll see a good 100 people or so, which would be a drop in the ocean next to the several hundreds of thousand HD2 owners there must be, i.e no single bit of value whatsoever
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signed...!
seriously, terribly disappointed that w7ps would not be made available to the HD2 just because of the button layout.
screw you HTC!
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Its Microsoft you should be saying "screw you" to if you actually want WP7S not HTC...
Signed with the below comment...
"HTC have two options either allow continued HD2 support via Android or shell out for WM6.x AND WP7S support people. You know where the smart money is HTC. Let XDA-Devs look after WM6.x and HTC can officially offer Android 2.x with support."
Hey Just learned that T-Mobile and so are discontinuing the HD2 on July 1st, Anyone know why? I know the Stock roms were crap and froze up and people returned it. But once modified its been a solid pocket pc for me. Anyone know whats going on or if there is a recall or something? Why is the HD2 already going out or do they plan to bring something like the EVO in its place?
Official Source?
T-Mobile store, then various links I came across, even vodaphone.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-HD2/HTC-HD2-is-Discontinued-as-of-July-1st/td-p/390091
http://nexus404.com/Blog/2009/12/16...peculation-hints-at-possible-apple-influence/
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=80103832e12f380128b3aa6e69007bc5
As it is, the HD2 dropped from 544$ to 499$ in just a short time.
Extremely old news on the Vodafone front, and that T-Mobile USA thread you referenced is completely unfounded. Rumors floating across the interwebs.
EDIT: Also as far as I remember, the phone came in at $449 and is still the same price.
Well while the thread might not mean anything, Talking to the T-Mobile store ppl sure does mean something to me.
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Well while the thread might not mean anything, Talking to the T-Mobile store ppl sure does mean something to me.
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lol, is that the same t mo staff who absolutely assured several people win P 7 upgrade would be coming? Store staff know fugg all, unless they also happen to be phone nerds too, which most aren't.
However, I can see tmo ditching it fairly soon, i mean, they sold a shed load of them, and now the margin will drop more, plus they will have had a ton of returns/complaints/problems meaning headaches for tech support, , sounds reasonable to think they'll be clearing out some of the more awkward lines ready for the wp7 range later this year.
Yea thats the reason I was told it will be cause of all the returns on it, which I work on phones.. so many customers I had where I put a custom rom on it, which of course makes it smoother. ^^ (Energy wee)
Considering Walmart and Amazon both dropped the contract cost to $50, and that TMOUS has a lot of android phones coming out. I would say the likelihood of HD2 being discontinued is pretty high. Doesn't really matter to me, I got mine and I'm happy with it.
pretty sure tmoUS said that the HD2 would only make a limited run for 3 or so months...so I wouldn't doubt the july 1st date.
The question is.. is the HD2 really that bad not to live that long? Granted I guess once Android gets working on the HD2, Ill be a happy camper too ^^
this phone looked nice but i'm really disappointed in what you can get for the phone. no decent tv apps. it seems loads of trouble getting any apps. and flash player don't even work.
andyjm said:
this phone looked nice but i'm really disappointed in what you can get for the phone. no decent tv apps. it seems loads of trouble getting any apps. and flash player don't even work.
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I thought there is a flash player fix? My only real gripe on it is that the youtube app.. doesnt let you see your youtube stored favorites...
your nexus link is old (12/2009) and this has been VF policy since mid December, (after all the rumours that VF Uk where pulling the HD2).
Still a good seller, they even relented and started to issue Firmware upgrades.
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Granted I guess once Android gets working on the HD2, Ill be a happy camper too ^^
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The problem is... no one seems to be willing to work on an Android release for the HD2 hardware, which is odd considering the EVO/Incredible are very similar... The only "Android on HTC/HD2" threads I have found are actually GNU type linux distros... While they're cool, they're still not quite what most of us are looking for.
I'm actually trying to sell my HD2 and weasel out of my 2-year contract so I can go get either the Incredible or the EVO4g.
Pezu23 said:
The problem is... no one seems to be willing to work on an Android release for the HD2 hardware, which is odd considering the EVO/Incredible are very similar... The only "Android on HTC/HD2" threads I have found are actually GNU type linux distros... While they're cool, they're still not quite what most of us are looking for.
I'm actually trying to sell my HD2 and weasel out of my 2-year contract so I can go get either the Incredible or the EVO4g.
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Are you kidding me? They've been working their asses off for an android port for the HD2. There's a stickied thread in the rom section. They are still having problems with the linux kernel, so it's gonna be a while until android runs halfway decently, but they're making great progress. These things take time. And the evo is not very similar to the hd2 at all... they only look similar.
If you want android to use full-time, it's best to go with an android phone. They've been working on android ports for the older msm72xx winmo devices (kaiser, tp2, tp, etc.) for years and still don't have a perfect port. Don't expect a fully-functional android port anytime soon... but it will be cool to have my great winmo device with the ability to boot into android when I please.
don't get me wrong this phone is nice, its just a shame its not simple when you want apps. the apps cost a bomb as well. reminds me of my n96.how do you know when there's a firmware update?
Probably discontinued because its crap!
Yes they are working hard on android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651632
There is a segfault issue going on right now which is slowing things up.
monty_rm said:
Probably discontinued because its crap!
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then why you bought it
This phone is great, the only regret is the dying OS. Let's hope they manage to get Android working.
Anyone know why HTC have not released an official rom with this update, or even if they ever will release it? Cheers.
CONTACTMC said:
Anyone know why HTC have not released an official rom with this update, or even if they ever will release it? Cheers.
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Several reasons.
1. It would cost them money.
2. Not developing it encourages people to buy new phone models with 6.5.3, or WP7 which makes HTC more money.
Witch is also the reason why we'll not have wm7.
I understand them not giving us wm7 (SORT OF), but 6.5.3 is just an update to what we already have, I thought it was standard to get these updates with windows phones, like auto updates on the pc. If this is how they carry on then this will be my first and last htc / windows phone. (Yes i could just flash an unofficial rom, but I have this phone on an 18 month contract so cant afford to kill the warrenty) Its like MS creating a sevice pack but not releasing it officially. So which new phones come with 6.5.3? I cant think of any.
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I understand them not giving us wm7 (SORT OF), but 6.5.3 is just an update to what we already have, I thought it was standard to get these updates with windows phones, like auto updates on the pc. If this is how they carry on then this will be my first and last htc / windows phone. (Yes i could just flash an unofficial rom, but I have this phone on an 18 month contract so cant afford to kill the warrenty) Its like MS creating a sevice pack but not releasing it officially. So which new phones come with 6.5.3? I cant think of any.
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Actually 6.5.3 or 6.5.x is way more than an update, they changed several things , so it really does not qualify as an update , more like a new sub-version ...
HTC have never been good with providing updates.
Given they have about 10 phones/year in a single category, they have no care for users of 'obsolete' (in their eyes) phones
And what's this talke of witches?
"us" get it in the backside!
htc, may be bad with updates. however us in the US have only gotten one update. it is like every other week i see an update or hotfix for every other country! we are so lucky to have a great place like this to get our phones even close to as updated as the rest of the world!
THANK YOU XDA and all of the great and generous developers that make it this great!
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Several reasons.
1. It would cost them money.
2. Not developing it encourages people to buy new phone models with 6.5.3, or WP7 which makes HTC more money.
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Or just buy an iPhone next time which receives regular updates and never touch HTC again. Ever.
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Or just buy an iPhone next time which receives regular updates and never touch HTC again. Ever.
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If you are such an iphone fanboy and don't like HTC why are you even posting in an forum devoted to an HTC phone????
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Or just buy an iPhone next time which receives regular updates and never touch HTC again. Ever.
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Please,.,. dont
this is a forum for the HTC HD2.
If you love the Iphone, thats good and everyone here will respect that.
Just Dont say, this one is better than that one, or even the Brand HTC.
But really,.,. dont try to be an apple fanboy on a HTC minded forum.
You could offend people, and i am sure thats not your intention
How hard is it for HTC to sort out a new rom with the latest 6.5x, cooks on here do it no trouble, and like peeps are gonna go out n get a new handset just for what is really just an update to what they already have, like I said, windows phone 7 is a brand new o.s, and I understand not getting that for free, but the 6.5x are just updates making it how it should have been in the first place. I would have though HTC would want to look after there existing customers, not make em feel like there brand new phones are outdated a week after they have got them. Like a HD2 owner is gonna go out and buy a brand new phone with 6.5x on it with 7 around the corner, so why not hook the peeps with 6.5 up, thus ensuring customer loyalty?
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Witch is also the reason why we'll not have wm7.
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Nah, they won't give us WP7 because they love us too much to give us such a horrible looking OS.
speakerphone said:
HTC have never been good with providing updates.
Given they have about 10 phones/year in a single category, they have no care for users of 'obsolete' (in their eyes) phones
And what's this talke of witches?
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ironic...?
by the way, what does 6.5.x have to offer over 6.5?, i honestly dont know....
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Or just buy an iPhone next time which receives regular updates and never touch HTC again. Ever.
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Have an iPhone 3G and it is JBd and unlocked. Refuse to keep updating it via iTunes. Apple has a good piece of Hardware, a lot of good apps, but they refuse to allow people who bought their phone and now own their phone to customize it. That is pure 'Dicktatorship.' LOL
Freedom of choice and optimization/customization is what makes us the USA!
So, iPhone or HTC, AT&T or T-Mobile is a choice you have. Apparently your choice is?
Thanks for your Opinion.