Ive been thinking about TF3D and its negatives and positives about and want to see what you think and have to say
The "people" list, aka the tf3d contact list just plain sucks IMO, too damn big font for my taste, totaly nullifies the use of a big screen and I cant find the function to sort after company or use as the regular contact list can which makes it totally usable for me :/
The SMS function that is combined with the user is good in someways but I hardly ever use it, also way too big, is it just me that have good eyesight or is everything with TF3D just damn big? IMO we have a big screen to see lots of stuff, not just make them bigger and prettier... >_<
The built in music player in tf3d is pretty.. but PocketPlayer just pwnz it totally IMO, so much better features and possibilites with PP, one of the first apps I bought when I got my Touch HD
That are the negatives I come to think of now, I know there are more... but TF3D becomes better and better so maybe some of it will not be negative for me
Positive stuff is ofcourse that its pretty, smooth easy to use interface, beats most other standard WM GUIs, atleast all I have tried
There are no GUIs for WM that is more like Android? I dont know much about Android phones but what from I have seen it really seems more customizable and you can move to different desktops with different wallpapers and different functions and apps?
Hey everybody,
First post here but i've been reading up on quite some info here.
Proud owner of the awesome HTC Desire since a bit over a week and very much a noob when it comes to all the config possibilities of these super-smartphones.
I just installed Helixlauncher2 and very much like the added options for the menu bar at the bottom and it also added the ability to let the homescreens function in landscape view.
One downside is that the phone seems to be a bit slower and less responsive compared to running the stock Sense GUI. I think i might switch back to Sense for the time being untill the phone gets rooted.
That is where my question comes in. When it gets rooted, does that mean option like the Helix menubar can be integrated in Sense? Helix now cancels all the HTC widgets and while it gives decent alternatives, the Sense GUI has some real gems which i'd love to keep.
So...does rooting mean "anything is possible" and you get a super configurable phone? Or is it more like people making the ROM lay the basics and you can only work within those lines?
Thanks for the help so far!
Nope, afraid not.
Not being able to get the HTC widgets in Helixlauncher2 has nothing to do with the phone not being rooted, it's to do with the app (Helixlauncher2) itself. It's not designed to pick them up. As far as the speed is concerned, try Helixlauncher rather than Helixlauncher2. It's really fast on my Desire. I much prefer it to the Sense UI but then I didn't have much use for the HTC widgets as I already had 3rd party widgets that I had purchased such as the Beautiful Widgets Pack. Another launcher you can try is Home++ Beta which has some great features.
Hope that helps.
I loaded CM6 when the nightly was first posted and had been loving it. I thought it was awesome that it was pure Android with all of the proprietary HTC stuff stripped out. I was sure that AOSP was the way to go and hadn't looked back until yesterday when I loaded AvaFroyo-V3. Not using Sense for a while has really made me appreciate the aesthetics and usability that HTC has put into their devices. I can see why they keep it so locked down because it really does make their devices stand out amongst the other Android hardware, especially to the majority of their users who could care less about rooting, open-source, etc. Who knows what I'll be running next week but I'm going to stick with Sense for now.
Really? It makes me realize how bloated and completely unnessecary Sense is, but that's just me... Personally, I don't have any problem with taking the time to download my own widgets and apps so I can customize everything exactly how I want it.
Sense is a bloated pig but to each his own.
Almost every sense widget has an equal replacement in the market if you know where to look. Launcherpro plus, fancy widget and others come to mind.
Aridon said:
Sense is a bloated pig but to each his own.
Almost every sense widget has an equal replacement in the market if you know where to look. Launcherpro plus, fancy widget and others come to mind.
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Only one I couldn't seem to find was a replacement for the favorite contacts slider. Which also happens to be the one I use the most.
cosine83 said:
Only one I couldn't seem to find was a replacement for the favorite contacts slider. Which also happens to be the one I use the most.
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http://www.launcherpro.com/?p=130
cosine83 said:
Only one I couldn't seem to find was a replacement for the favorite contacts slider. Which also happens to be the one I use the most.
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LauncherPro Plus has the contacts widget.
PFx00 said:
I loaded CM6 when the nightly was first posted and had been loving it. I thought it was awesome that it was pure Android with all of the proprietary HTC stuff stripped out. I was sure that AOSP was the way to go and hadn't looked back until yesterday when I loaded AvaFroyo-V3. Not using Sense for a while has really made me appreciate the aesthetics and usability that HTC has put into their devices. I can see why they keep it so locked down because it really does make their devices stand out amongst the other Android hardware, especially to the majority of their users who could care less about rooting, open-source, etc. Who knows what I'll be running next week but I'm going to stick with Sense for now.
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What is it that you like about Sense?
I think most people like Sense cause it looks good out of the box, the iPhone type users like Sense a lot. Those of us that like customizing our phones usually hate Sense, because it's bloated and HTC disallows uninstalling programs until rooted.
A week or so ago there was a 'scrollable contact widget' in the market that worked great. It was free too. Maybe HTC C&D'd them too.
Yea it was called mecontacts I have it but it is no longer on the market, at least not for me
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What is it that you like about Sense?
I think most people like Sense cause it looks good out of the box, the iPhone type users like Sense a lot. Those of us that like customizing our phones usually hate Sense, because it's bloated and HTC disallows uninstalling programs until rooted.
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I love sense and customizing my phone. And i am not a Iphone type user.. You shouldnt really categorize people. it just boils down to the old saying "to each their own"
CM6 + Launcher Pro blows sense out of the water...
No bloat + more options
It takes some time to set up, but once you figure out what you are doing Sense will be a thing of the past.
CM6 + Launcher Pro FTW!
firemedic1343 said:
What is it that you like about Sense?
I think most people like Sense cause it looks good out of the box, the iPhone type users like Sense a lot. Those of us that like customizing our phones usually hate Sense, because it's bloated and HTC disallows uninstalling programs until rooted.
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I'm all for customizing but I like for my phone to have a consistent look and feel between all of the widgets too. Like I said, it took not using sense for a while to appreciate this.
xero187 said:
CM6 + Launcher Pro blows sense out of the water...
No bloat + more options
It takes some time to set up, but once you figure out what you are doing Sense will be a thing of the past.
CM6 + Launcher Pro FTW!
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No doubt that there are more options and, with some effort, you can get close to the same experience. I thought CM6 and Launcher Pro was the way to go until yesterday. Now I'm torn.
xero187 said:
CM6 + Launcher Pro blows sense out of the water...
No bloat + more options
It takes some time to set up, but once you figure out what you are doing Sense will be a thing of the past.
CM6 + Launcher Pro FTW!
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It's getting really, really, really hard for me to pick between froyo+sense and cm6+launcher pro plus (which I recommend every true lover of launcher to get; support your devs!!!).
Pros for sense: Widgets-Bar none, the implementation htc has with sense's widgets are just plain awesome, I mean friendstream, bookmarks, messaging, mail, everything is right there and accessible from the get-go.
Cons for sense: Slow as balls, no customization, gives me some weird purplish tint on my nova,slow, has those stupid sprint apps, slow, aaaand did I mention slow?
Pros for launcher/adw/whatever's not sense: Customization is AWESOME, can do whatever I want, from changing the app drawer opening time to the color of my task bar (cm6), if I see it I can change it.
Fast as HELL- Pretty much gives you a brand new phone; really makes it feel worth the $350 I paid for it on launch.
Cons For launcher/adw/whatever: Customization- Some people really don't want the hassle of having to set up EVERYTHING to their liking, sense really simplifies the overall experience.
Widgets-While there are competitors out there, I've yet to find widgets that truly replace some of the htc widget's for me. And I can use my yahoo mail account with sense so that's definitely a factor to me lol
At the end of the day, it really is up to personal taste. After all, this is android and android DOES everything you want it to. What's great is we're given so many awesome choices; and even when finding flaws in both their still better than anything else you can find on the market. To me, the real winner is the evo+the supporters that have made this phone what it is today-awesome.
p.s-I hope this thread doesn't turn into a pissing ground against sense or people who choose something different than what you have; it's called an opinion and everybody's is different, grow up if you can't understand that.
To be more specific about what I like ... and remember this is personal preference with zero effort to setup:
Clock - Sure clock widgets are a dime a dozen but I've become accustomed to the Sense's clock and weather. You can use beautiful/fancy but neither have the full screen weather animation (which serves no purpose but I think its pretty cool).
Copy and Paste - I love that copy and paste functionality is built in across all applications. I use this most in the web browser. I'm not a fan of the select text feature.
Keyboard - I like the haptic feedback when I type, I also like having the arrow keys (both took a while to grow on me). Plus, the keys seem a little bigger so its easier for me to type on. I was using various keyboard mods but they stopped working on CM6
Touch to focus camera I never really knew how much I missed this until now. Such a handy feature. Hopefully they'll get this working when a new kernel source is released.
Facebook Contact Integration Sure you can load a hacked .apk but I also think HTC's integration is a little better than stock. Especially how they pull other peoples' pictures into the gallery.
Dialer- Was using Dialer One, but still like the look and feel of HTC's better. Also, the contact pictures that are synced from Facebook are much higher quality.
Calendar Widget- I never really found a good free replacement for the HTC Calendar Widget. Several people have recommended a paid calendar grid app.
4G Toggle Widget- Never really looked for an alternative but missed it when it was gone.
Radio- I never used this but thought I'd throw it in the list.
HTC Sync- This is the only option to get my work calendar on my phone because Google sync doesn't work with Office 2010 and Windows 7. There are 3rd party applications but I don't want to load them on the secured network at work.
Other Misc Widgets These are kind of useless to me but still nice to have options that are skinned to match perfectly - Music, Friend Stream, Day in History, News, Weather, Etc.
Don't get me wrong. CM has an awesome ROM that I'm sure I'll go back to at some point but I'm lovin' me some Sense right now.
edtate said:
It's getting really, really, really hard for me to pick between froyo+sense and cm6+launcher pro plus (which I recommend every true lover of launcher to get; support your devs!!!).
Pros for sense: Widgets-Bar none, the implementation htc has with sense's widgets are just plain awesome, I mean friendstream, bookmarks, messaging, mail, everything is right there and accessible from the get-go.
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While I liked Sense when I first got the Evo (new to Android) I think your pros pointed out exactly why I sought out and found LauncherPro so quickly. I don't use any of the Sense widgets! the first thing I did was remove friendstream, book marks, messaging and mail widgets.
In any case, Sense UI is a good UI for people who take advantage of all the widgets but others may see it as 'bloated' if they don't. I like paring down my screen real estate and LauncherPro allows me to do that easily. But it does take up time and effort to set things up just so.
kong97 said:
Yea it was called mecontacts I have it but it is no longer on the market, at least not for me
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It is still there. I just did a search for it.
Both have thier pros and cons. I personally love sense. The only things I wish it had is the normal bluetooth stack so that I could run wiimote and then I wish sense would go into landscape. And also I like the 3D app drawer.
Does Launcher Pro allow you to sync your contacts Facebook info (pics, statuses, birthday, etc) like in Sense? That is invaluable for me.
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Does Launcher Pro allow you to sync your contacts Facebook info (pics, statuses, birthday, etc) like in Sense? That is invaluable for me.
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That has nothing to do with LauncherPro. You do that with the Facebook app.
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Does Launcher Pro allow you to sync your contacts Facebook info (pics, statuses, birthday, etc) like in Sense? That is invaluable for me.
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Facebook will link some of that information to your contacts by default but that function is broke in 2.2 right now. There is a hack that you can run in the shell to fix it or search for the hacked .apk on these forums.
There is no shortage of launcher replacements for Android
Once in a while a new one comes along and takes the launcher experience to a new level
1. TSF Shell Pro[Upcoming]
A new launcher currently in development by a team of developers.
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SYzYQ6YtepU#t=78s
2. ROU Launcher[Coming Soon]
Looks To Bring A Whole New Experience To Android.
Team ROU is looking to bring a whole new kind of interface to Android and it looks damn good.
Check it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oySGu0ztiqM#t=0s
Stay Tune For The Update!
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Looks interesting, thanks for the links. Androids one strength definitely is the ability to modify it to look and behave exactly as any individual personally wants it to.
Duplicate thread? One already exists for the best launchers
Though they do look nice.
Theylook interesting but none of them mention, changing icons thats a must for me and my launcher of choice!
They both look great. Thanks!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20827514&postcount=12
Go Launcher! Go!
go launcher ex is my personal choice, been using it when was on the hd2
The TSF looks really fluid im wondering if the locked the governor into performance mode for that clip.
I like LauncherPro
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fede.launcher
I am a big fan of Go and ADW, but I will ditch them in a split second if TSF Shell Pro runs that well on the note.
I'm not sure about these launchers. It's amazing to see the youtube clips but I've got the feeling that with so many bells and whistles they may be limiting in a way. It can be difficult to find matching widgets and icons so you may end up kinda stuck with what you got out of the box.
My personal preference is a launcher that's simple, "transparent", highly customizable and with really good performance.
I just install ed this wonderful launcher from the play store ...
So far so good. Was just wandering if anyone else had tried it/customised it/hacked it? I was all about ready to start trying to build my own html built ui launcher for android when I stumbled on it! Cheers guys saved me a whole lot of work
Has anyone used it? Any tips ? Anyone know where I can find the main files for it? I want to customize it as much as possible and have email the dev team in the hopes that theyre a friendly bunch.
I personally wouldn't pay ten dollars for a launcher but that's me. I looked at it and it seems really cool, I almost wish there was a trail version or lite. As for the main files, you would have to google for them, since it is not a free app. Titanium backup should works to extract the apk.
A lite version would be very adventageous. I have emailed the support team at Chameleon and posted in all the right places on their forum, but unfortunately its no xda. No response so far and its going on 4 days now. The idea behind it is a very good one, but it needs more support and active members. Fingers crossed answers will be here shortly as I am loosing patience with them and am seeking alternative launchers. Anyone know any good ones? Theres is nothing wrong with the default one i use but i like to customise as much as i can so need something a little more special
I've been pretty happy with Go Launcher EX. Not so much in the way of fancy widgets, but nice home screen transitions, customizable quick launch area, very flexible.
I installed Chameleon. It looks really nice, but super laggy. Also, they need more widgets.
K1Andy said:
I've been pretty happy with Go Launcher EX. Not so much in the way of fancy widgets, but nice home screen transitions, customizable quick launch area, very flexible.
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Go launcher HD is better for tablets. I had it but I am back to the launcher that comes with CM10