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[Q]Now where would I be able to get THAT version of the HD??

There are numerous video's out there showing things the HD can do but MY version certainly can NOT. And despite how cool these features are, surprisingly hardly Anybody talks about them, I find almost no information anywhere on this forum or on Google.
Check out this video, for example. A nice demonstration of LOTS of features that to my knowledge do not exist on the HD:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-hd-windows-mobile-smartphone
- First of all, the thing that caught my eye the most, is THE LACK OF THE ZOOM TRANSITION EFFECT BETWEEN PAGES THAT WAS IN ALL THE PREVIEW VIDEO'S.
- Then, there's the the IN CALL RECORDER application. Where the heck is it?!
- And even more important (yes I like graphics), the OPERA TAB SWITCHING, with its Cover Flow-ish way of showing all the open tabs as separate windows in semi-3D... See the attached screenshots. Also note how the buttons in the browser (at the bottom) are aligned differently. Can I get this Opera version somewhere?
The list goes on.
Why are these things not in the HD, or are they in yours and just not in mine?? Is it some firmware update I don't know about?
Please, enlighten me.

why they have removed the tabbing feature is beyond me.
I wonder if these are features that can be enabled?

My girlfriend has the Nokia N96 and her version of Opera even supports this. No, it does not look as fancy with the reflections and all, but the same tab windowing is there.
Also they said this version would include Flash Lite 3.1 well I can't even watch a video on the YouTube site. It does show more than without plugin (the movie overviews) but no playback.
And the zoom effect... As stated in a different thread it may be a performance issue, I can imagine it can cause freezes and instability, just like with the Manila tab-to-tab scrolling where you would see one screen flip away and the other one in, like on the first Diamond firmware versions. They just removed that transition because it lagged a lot.
Too bad.. The zoom effect looked really nice, albeit a bit iPhonish...
The Opera tab navigation is a mystery to me though. It's completely unrelated to other software and so it would not cause instability, it's just a missing feature in Opera.
And where is my in call recorder?? Such a tool seems very handy in a lot of situations, such as when contacting help desks, customers etc.

hi guys,
i'm also very interested to enable or find the OPERA TAB SWITCHING like on symbian nokia or iphone, it is really great;
and another thing, i want to have more than 3 pages open at the same time in opera, and it is set to 3 maximum...do you know where to set more pages allowed.?
thanks

While I agree it sucks that some features were pulled, it happens. One feature I do like (a lot) that was left in was the zoom feature in Opera (not the tap on page thing).
Click on the magnifying glass (bottom left) when in full screen mode, zoom away.

Manilla or TF3DHDB2

There are two parallel projects to port HTC's Touchflo 3d to X1:
itje's Manilla:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
and
Daran Clarkes TF3DHDB2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428351
For people who have tried both please vote which has your preference at the current states of build.

Seeing as I'm 100% sure that people who vote have just tried -one- of the ports and comment on that one.
The poll isn't called "which one did you install" it's meant to be a review of both. As these builds get better and better we need a source for newbs as to how the ports differ.
So if you can post some differences that you found between the two ports.
PS: I have both an X1 and a Touch HD for comparison.
1. Manilla
Plus
-Works fast, quick to install.
Minus
-Needs around 10 individual .cabs to work.
-Album doesn't work out of the box
-Audio doesn't work out of the box
-The system highlights have been changed into black / black. Whereas on teh original HD Touch HD the highlight (new sms indicator), clock highlights, comms highlights are neon green.
-The clockface is black instead of the original white.
-Camera and video icons don't work on the album screen.
-Some lockups now and again.
2. TF3DHDB2
Plus
-One main .cab
-4 add-ons
-All aspects of touchflo 3d work out of the box.
I.e. Camera and video icons work on album screen, system highlights are the correct colour, as is the clock.
-Really in comparing to my HD system speed is almost identical, i.e. I can't tell any difference. Launching youtube is slightly faster on the X1, browsers opening from the internet tab is slightly faster on the HD. Weather updates are 1:1, etc. This is all out of the box hard reset, i.e. no file or glyph tweaks yet.
Minus
-Relatively long time to install
The main difference between a real Touch HD and the above two builds is remains obviously the speed of loading the OS into a useable state after a cold start. The HD is pretty much quickly useable whereas on the X1 we have to wait for the TouchFlo3D to load.
For reference, my setup is (after hard reset):
-Touchflo3D HD Beta 2
-HTC Phone.cab
-HTC Volume.cab
-Touch IT Keyboard.cab
-FM Radio HD app
-Snailslug TouchResponse (to get the small vibration jolts when you touch the screen like on the real HD)
-All annoying windows mobile SMS balloons disabled (see thread), sms now works identical to HD.
I disabled all the panels apart from the one you can't turn off as I don't really use them. Why have a youtube or google panel if selecting these from the internet tab works 6x faster.
Lets hear people who have actually used both builds comment on their experiences.

I'm a noob, about to get an Xperia in a few days and would like to put the touchFLO interface on it. I am also confused as to which one of the two to go with.
I'm not so interested with how long or hard it is to install, I'm mainly interested in how complete and reliable it is, with speed/performance a second priority.
It appears from you're post that Manilla is the one to do for, Though I was under the impression from another post that I saw that the other version was better. I'm very confused and frustrated having to research pages of posts outlining individual bugs with each versions, trying to see which is more complete.
I would also rather TouchFLO as a panel, can this be done with both versions? or one in particular
I like the summary you have provided of both versions, I find very helpful. I am looking forward to anything other users have to say about both versions.

hambargarz said:
I'm not so interested with how long or hard it is to install, I'm mainly interested in how complete and reliable it is, with speed/performance a second priority.
It appears from you're post that Manilla is the one to do for,
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You mean probably TF3DHDB2 not Manilla.
Yes you can run as a panel, you need TF3DPanelInstaller.cab. First install the main TF3DB2.cab, then install panel. Basically TF3DB2.cab installs itself as your home panel. You need to follow the instructions for panelising it, I believe you need to uncheck the touchflo3d on the today panel items, before you install but I'm not sure, check with someone else. Also check if TF3DHDB2 can run as a panel or if it's just Manilla that works with the panelinstaller.cab, I'm unsure. Hell you could try it and tell us.
Don't get frustrated, I got my X1 just last week and figured all this stuff out on my own. Basically what helped me was running through the two threads above. TF3DB2.cab is the one to go for. It's almost as fast as my Touch HD, apart from album and audio, that remains faster on my HD. Although I do hear Daran is coming out with TF3DB3 next week? That should finish this whole port off.
But if you just want to start, hard reset your X1 and load the files I run (listed above), there you go, weeks of looking through threads resolved.
PS: All the apps I listed there is only one version from, usually listed on the front page (post 1) of both threads linked above.

Hi all,
you can panelize TF3DHDB2 works fine for me

i chose manilla simply because TF3DB2 kept freezing on me, i had to remove the battery to restart 2-3 times a day
i installed manilla 2 days ago and no freezes whatsoever.
i dont mind not having pics and music cause i use the media panel for those which is MUCH better.
id just like to see someone incorporate tf3d tabs that rotate or disable the roate option cause anything is better than hose ugly lines that appear when the screen is rotated

itje, daran's project seems not well supported. itje released a great rom with tf3d working out of the box and fix issues very quickly

I've tried both, and thought the HD one was faster.

My vote goes to TF3DHDB2 simply because A2DP works in it and this is essential for me.

[REF] Working / Non-Working add-ons / games / programs

Ok,
So a few of us have had a Touch Pro 2 now for a couple of days and have been asked by many people "Does this work, Does that work" and its going to be so much easier if we collate these into one place as a reference, so when the people who asked get their phone, they can quickly download it.
Make a list below (with screenshots if possible) of modifications that work / don't work and a link to that thread, even if its cross linking to the Blackstone forum which most of these will as they are very very alike.
Example.
Title: Notification Manager with Buttons
Working? Nope
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505904
Brief Description: This supplies buttons next to the actual notification in the notifications manager, so it will take you to.. say battery, comm manager etc.
Think this doesn't work due to its Topaz rather than Rhodium.
Hopefully we should get a list of things that work/dont work and collate a massive inventory

Title: High Resolution Wallpapers for all tabs
Working? Nearly, 95%
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
Description: Creates a wallpaper via the PC for your phone, portrait or landscape in better quality than just selecting it in TF3D. This works all but the home wallpaper, which defaults to the standard one. You can however, select the wallpaper in the TF3D settings, but it wont be as good a quality as the rest of the tabs.
Remeber to untick CFC Compression in settings or you will get a white screen

Title: IGO8 (HD Version)
Working? Yes
Link: http://www.igomyway.eu/
Description: GPS Navigation Software for Windows Mobile™ based PDA devices and Smartphones

Title: Microsoft Voice Command V1.6
Working? No
Link: http://www.handango.co.uk/
Description: Bluetooth control for voice activated dialing - installs and will work with a hardware button (press and hold "Send") but will not work through bluetooth.

Moving Wallpapers

i havn't been on the website in a long time and really love all the option you guys put up here. i will be receivin my tp2 come monday and really interested in using the HDWall, but has anyone created a software were it allows you to use a video or .gif file? i have tons of pics to choose from 1 for portriat and 1 for landscape but what about video? granted these phones prob are not made to handle constant video or i could be wrong, but a program that lets you compress a video or use a .gif and if possible run of a memory card would be a plus to minimize the use of the rom. am i making any sence, i think it would be cool. how long should it run, how big a file size it can be, i wish i was a programmer/dev. anyone can tell how i go about that, can it be self taught or a course is required.

it could be video clips, cartoons or a slide show of pictures

the new dusk sense rom/theme i believe has an animated wallpaper feature, its not really developed alot though, but this would answer your question....

[Video] Windows 8.1 Pro Preview Build 9374 all features reviewed

Hi,
I have made a video to show all the features that are new to Windows 8.1 (Blue).
This is the latest build that has been leaked recently.
It brings some nice features like an improvement to the Snap-View and a feature called "Kiosk-mode".
Everything is explained in the video.
I am sorry if I sometimes forget the words and things are hard to understand, because obviously English isn't my first language.
Hope you like it.
If the embedded video doesn't work, you can find it on YouTube.