I am really missing the abilty to quickly change the volume of the phone using the up down wheel like you could on the wizard.
The fact the wheel allows easy access to the screen is great though.
The ideal solution seems to be to map the left hand side ok button to the volume control instead of the start menu when on the today screen.
unfortunatly the buttons options in the settings do not include the ok button.
Is anyone aware of how to do this?
Maybe one of Vijay's apps could achieve this...
What happened to dedicated volume keys like on the 8125?
How am I supposed to adjust the volume quickly? the scroll wheel?
Try tapping on the sound icon at the top of the screen. That should bring up a pop-up that has volume sliders in it.
richy240 said:
Try tapping on the sound icon at the top of the screen. That should bring up a pop-up that has volume sliders in it.
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Yup, but I wanted some real keys to press like there should be on every phone.
i too am looking for a way to do this as well...
The scroll wheel will adjust the volume while on a call. When not on a call, it will just scroll through whichever app you're using at that moment.
Edit: If you get those tones when using it, like us TyTN users did, there is a registry edit to eliminate that. Follow this link, about 2/3 down the page.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
You can try a 3rd-party app like Pocket Plus for a soft solution...
You could downgrade to a Wizard/8125/etc. but that would suck.
On my wizard, a program called SmartsKey (which also mostly works on our Mogul) could use the rocker switch as a volume up and down toggle, when you are outside of a call.
I am annoyed at having to tap the volume icon to change my volume on my phone when at the today screen. We need to have some way to map the scroll wheel's button to open the volume settings when pushed, and then we could simply scroll the wheel up or down to change the volume. Also on the wizard, you could hold down the comm manager button to toggle mute.
I would be willing to work on this with anyone else that would like to try and either make a script or small app that would allow us to do this. It's one of the only major gripes I have so far with this phone. I guess I was just spoiled with the wizard, but I know that this is a hugely capable phone. It would make sense that we could map something to that push button on the wheel. I just don't know how to look for it.
What do you think? Wouldn't that make adjusting the volume a lot better? It seems like this should be the way it works from the factory.
****UPDATE****
I have found a little 48k app that opens the volume balloon. This will definitely work for now, until I can figure out if we can use the wheel button cleanly or not. I have mapped it to the push and hold voice command button, so that when I hold the button, the volume balloon opens. YAY!!
File is attached for logged-in users
That sounds like a pretty cool idea, but I really haven't been bothered too much by the scroll wheel not always acting as volume. I wouldn't know much about writing a script or application, but I'd be happy to help with testing.
A FREAKING MEN. how ridiculous can they be? every phone since the beginning of time has had a hard button to change to vibrate.
Yes, Please! I have found this quite annoying as well. I wish I had the know-how to help you.
Great idea. I find myself never using the scroll wheel for anything and always wanting it to simply control the volume.
try AEBUTTON PLUS i duno if it will work on the mogul, but u can give it a try
if you use the 5-tabbed home plugin from HTC, one of the tabs is ringer profile, and it mutes/vibrate/normal settings allow for quick ringer change. I find that it is enough for my needs.
that is one feature i love on my treo 755. i can stut the volume of with a keyflick. very useful for when in meetings or with a customer (i am a car salesman). when walking up to a customer i just flick off the volume.
i cannot do this on my mogul. i have to unlock the screen, go to the volume tab, then click on the volume. 3 steps that require looking at the screen vs one that can be done in pocket or a holster...
I am currently getting some pointers on where to start from those much smarter than I. Hopefully I will get some responses and will be able to start on this. I understand the concept, but it will just be a little game of connecting the dots. I KNOW that this can be done. And it WILL happen
nonegiven said:
Great idea. I find myself never using the scroll wheel for anything and always wanting it to simply control the volume.
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That is exactly how my Mogul works....... hold it up to your ear and try it.
now.... i want to design a sturdy replacement back with a coiled antenna and a place to store all these 2 Gbyte micro-SD chips
7r380r said:
That is exactly how my Mogul works....... hold it up to your ear and try it.
now.... i want to design a sturdy replacement back with a coiled antenna and a place to store all these 2 Gbyte micro-SD chips
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It works this way when you are inside of a call, yes, but I am referring to when you are OUTSIDE of a call, such as at the today screen. Currently, the only way to adjust the volume outside of a call would be by tapping on the volume icon and adjusting the volume.
The idea is to push in the scroll wheel's button to open that volume adjustment screen, so then we can just scroll the wheel up or down to change the device and ringer volume.
I agree that there needs to be a volume control like other HTC devices, however the scroll wheel is great for navigating menus, and pressing it in is the "enter" button. Would you really want to give that option up for something else? Imagine scrolling through your emails and you find the one to open and press it in only to be presented with the volume control instead. I wouldn't want that...
Also, remember that the scroll wheel and d-pad are linked. The hardware can't differentiate the two- in other words, whatever you set the scroll wheel and press-in to do, the d-pad and center button will do as well. Think about this really hard before you try it.
bump for the update
update from whom? This is your own thread!
Dishe said:
update from whom? This is your own thread!
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I edited my first post to include the zip, and then the thread was down towards the bottom, so I posted a bump reply so that it could be up to the top again, in the way it would have if I had posted the zip by hitting reply instead. Make sense?
I'm working on something similiar to this... kind of tricky...
I don't want to hook the whole input subsystem, so what I am attempting to do is create a today plugin and that will sieze control of the wheel when on the today screen and change the volume.
I've got it basically working, just need to tweak when it grabs control; right now it does it on WM_PAINT, but that message is sent quite a bit and spikes processor usage. And I'd like to get it working without actually drawing a window, not sure how well WM6 will play with that.
Aso need to see if I can make this work without it being the first item on the today screen.
For those interested the ticks on the volume balloon are the following values:
0xFFFFFFFF
0xCCCCCCCC
0x99999999
0x66666666
0x33333333
0x00000000
You can use those values with waveOutSetVolume(), just use NULL as the first parameter and the DWORD level as the second.
When I get it working, or tired of fighting with it, I'll post the source code.
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I edited my first post to include the zip, and then the thread was down towards the bottom, so I posted a bump reply so that it could be up to the top again, in the way it would have if I had posted the zip by hitting reply instead. Make sense?
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oh, ok!
As promised, consider it an alpha version. I have included a release compiled dll, the source, and a sample .reg file.
Basically, it is a today plugin that steals the focus whenever ever the today screen is shown, then uses the wheel to raise and lower the volume. I think it has to have a visible window, so I made the window 1 pixel high and transparent.
Probably still needs a little work painting and figuring out when to grab focus. Right now I use the WM_PAINT as a test because I figure if the window is getting drawn then it is a good assumption the today screen is active.
Please post any updates to the source.
For those using Wisbar Advance and a button mapping app like Smartskey, you can map the scroll wheel button push to the WA volume adjuster, right?
"mute" button
It's not exactly what you're talking about, but you can get a cab at http://ppcgeeks.com/ring-toggle-hardware-fix-for-mogul-titan-t8079.html that lets you set any hard button to toggle between vibrate and ring. So you can use it as a mute button (but not quiet/loud).
Hi,
I used to have a T-mobile MDA for 2+ years and I'm very acustomed to simply sliding a button up/down in order to increase/decrease ringer volume ( I simply hold it down for a few secs and it goes to slient).
I just got my HTC and find that the scroll wheel wants to scroll items on my "today" screen...instead of controlling the volume!!
Is this standard or is there a way I can have the scroll wheel control the Ringer?
i too want to know how to do this!
Anyone have any ideas on this? It's my only gripe left on the XV6800 and I've searched for quite a while trying to find any resolution.
If you open up the speaker icon, you can then use the scroll wheel to adjust the volume settings. Believe you can aslo adjust the volume with the scroll wheel when the phone is ringing.
Any better solutions than this?!
I'm not sure about it. One day out of nowhere my Mogul started using the scroll wheel as the volume control, even when I had programs opened (contacts, PIE, etc..) that I would use the scroll wheel with, it controlled the volume. It opened up the menu and would raise/lower, put into vibrate/silent. I don't remember installing any applications or anything, but I lost functionality of it as a volume control after just a soft-reset. I personally thought it was annoying trying to scroll through 175+ contacts and having the volume slider pop up instead.
I would assume there's some sort of background application you can acquire that allows this, but I haven't found one yet.
I was annoyed that the wheel doesn't control volume at will so I downloaded S2U2 (slide to unlock) and that program comes with a master volume control for the phone volume and in-call volume. I set it to one of my buttons on the left, its awesome.
Hey guys, so I have been using my tp2 for a couple months now and I have noticed some things that could have some kind of App development. I have no idea where to begin with Developing apps and all of that tech stuff, so I'll put my ideas out there. If these things do exist please inform me, thanks
1. Customization of the Mute Key on the back - Personally I have never once touched this button because I dont use the speakerphone that often. My dad on the other hand uses his speakerphone many times throughout the day, but he has still no need for the mute button. Which leads to my ideas of being able to customize it for a push and/or push and hold functionality.
2. A keyboard that is just a D-pad. I tried the "G-pad" app which is supposed to enable to g-sensor to be used for scrolling, but I haven't been able to figure out how to use it properly. I also tried the ZoomAdds scrolling with the Zoom Bar, this is alright, however it doesn't always work for some reason.
3. Im not sure if this one is an app, or just a functionality of the Energy Rom, but i downloaded some apps from the Marketplace and the majority of them dont sort out into the folders in the Energy rom (such as Games, Tools, etc.) Is there an app for this or you can control it from the the settings in the energy rom or something? I didnt install the energy rom on my phone, which is why I know like nothing about it.
I use Keyboard controller for your #1 problem there. I hold my mute button to toggle Wifi on and off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
rorytmeadows said:
I use Keyboard controller for your #1 problem there. I hold my mute button to toggle Wifi on and off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
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You can also use rory's suggestion for problem #2 if you want...just map a directional arrow to a long-press of each of the 4 front hardware buttons, in whichever arrangement feels best for you (up/left/right/down, left/up/down/right, whatever)
sirphunkee said:
You can also use rory's suggestion for problem #2 if you want...just map a directional arrow to a long-press of each of the 4 front hardware buttons, in whichever arrangement feels best for you (up/left/right/down, left/up/down/right, whatever)
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Definitely. I also have mapped my 4 front buttons to various things...
double press back arrow = CleanRAM
triple press back arrow = Resco File Explorer
long press back arrow = YoMoMedia
triple press home = rotate screen
long press home = iGO8
Im just curious, what is the timeout on the double and triple presses? Like what if i was in a list and i had down set to a single press of the home key, and i pressed it a couple times, and I activated the double press function?
khoyifish said:
Im just curious, what is the timeout on the double and triple presses? Like what if i was in a list and i had down set to a single press of the home key, and i pressed it a couple times, and I activated the double press function?
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It's pretty reasonable. I was scared of the same thing, but it has never done something I didn't want it to do.
Thanks a lot
Doesnt the Zoombar program allow you to use the slider as a dpad now?
Aaron McCarthy said:
Doesnt the Zoombar program allow you to use the slider as a dpad now?
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quite possibly...it's been a while since I've used it and I can't remember for sure