What happened to dedicated volume keys like on the 8125?
How am I supposed to adjust the volume quickly? the scroll wheel?
Try tapping on the sound icon at the top of the screen. That should bring up a pop-up that has volume sliders in it.
richy240 said:
Try tapping on the sound icon at the top of the screen. That should bring up a pop-up that has volume sliders in it.
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Yup, but I wanted some real keys to press like there should be on every phone.
i too am looking for a way to do this as well...
The scroll wheel will adjust the volume while on a call. When not on a call, it will just scroll through whichever app you're using at that moment.
Edit: If you get those tones when using it, like us TyTN users did, there is a registry edit to eliminate that. Follow this link, about 2/3 down the page.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
You can try a 3rd-party app like Pocket Plus for a soft solution...
You could downgrade to a Wizard/8125/etc. but that would suck.
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Is there a way to easily adjust the volume using the wheel? Or do we have to get the stylus out :?
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Just tried SPB pocket plus but it doesnt have a volume indicator, just a control which doesnt show what the volume is set to!
any clues?
What is it that you want to do?
If you move the jogwheel during a call, you can change the voulme of the speaker...
OK, But do you know how to adjust the volume when not in a call without tapping the screen? is there a way to do this please?
probably clumsier than tapping the screen, but if you have both Spb Pocket Plus and MS VoiceCommand, you can issue commands for Volume Up, Volume Down, Volume Loop, and Mute.
You can also tapp on the Comm Manager button and toggle the between (preset volume), (vibrate), and (silent).
Is there a good screen tap recorder which works with the tytn?
I tried Vitobuttonmapper which does this but it messed up all my other button assignments! I just want to be able to assign the voicedialler press and hold function to bring up the volume bubble!
Anyone found a prog which will turn a screen tap into an .exe which will be assignable to a button?
Vijay?
Anyone??????
with aebutton plus 2.4.3 beta (its now in 2.4.4 beta), if you remap the "ok" buttons after adding it, you can select it in such a way (under "\options\restore volume slider\" select "if today is active").
Now in the today screen, when you press the ok button, the volume slider will be activated. You can then use he left right up/down keys to select the volume of choice.
However, upon capturing the ok button, i have to map the ok button to close active apps when pressed twice. Pressing it once, regardless of the program in the foreground yields nothing.
To minimize, i have the use the red phone button.
I use the following mortscript:
Code:
MouseClick 160,0
Sleep 100
MouseClick 160,200
In portrait QVGA.
There's a neater way with VJKeyPress as well, but I can't remember the settings right now
If necessary it'll be easy to turn this into a seperate app.
V
vijay555 said:
If necessary it'll be easy to turn this into a seperate app.
V
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That would be v. nice! would it be possible to make it landscape aware too?
(i'm to much of a thicky for mortscript..... )
On my wizard, a program called SmartsKey (which also mostly works on our Mogul) could use the rocker switch as a volume up and down toggle, when you are outside of a call.
I am annoyed at having to tap the volume icon to change my volume on my phone when at the today screen. We need to have some way to map the scroll wheel's button to open the volume settings when pushed, and then we could simply scroll the wheel up or down to change the volume. Also on the wizard, you could hold down the comm manager button to toggle mute.
I would be willing to work on this with anyone else that would like to try and either make a script or small app that would allow us to do this. It's one of the only major gripes I have so far with this phone. I guess I was just spoiled with the wizard, but I know that this is a hugely capable phone. It would make sense that we could map something to that push button on the wheel. I just don't know how to look for it.
What do you think? Wouldn't that make adjusting the volume a lot better? It seems like this should be the way it works from the factory.
****UPDATE****
I have found a little 48k app that opens the volume balloon. This will definitely work for now, until I can figure out if we can use the wheel button cleanly or not. I have mapped it to the push and hold voice command button, so that when I hold the button, the volume balloon opens. YAY!!
File is attached for logged-in users
That sounds like a pretty cool idea, but I really haven't been bothered too much by the scroll wheel not always acting as volume. I wouldn't know much about writing a script or application, but I'd be happy to help with testing.
A FREAKING MEN. how ridiculous can they be? every phone since the beginning of time has had a hard button to change to vibrate.
Yes, Please! I have found this quite annoying as well. I wish I had the know-how to help you.
Great idea. I find myself never using the scroll wheel for anything and always wanting it to simply control the volume.
try AEBUTTON PLUS i duno if it will work on the mogul, but u can give it a try
if you use the 5-tabbed home plugin from HTC, one of the tabs is ringer profile, and it mutes/vibrate/normal settings allow for quick ringer change. I find that it is enough for my needs.
that is one feature i love on my treo 755. i can stut the volume of with a keyflick. very useful for when in meetings or with a customer (i am a car salesman). when walking up to a customer i just flick off the volume.
i cannot do this on my mogul. i have to unlock the screen, go to the volume tab, then click on the volume. 3 steps that require looking at the screen vs one that can be done in pocket or a holster...
I am currently getting some pointers on where to start from those much smarter than I. Hopefully I will get some responses and will be able to start on this. I understand the concept, but it will just be a little game of connecting the dots. I KNOW that this can be done. And it WILL happen
nonegiven said:
Great idea. I find myself never using the scroll wheel for anything and always wanting it to simply control the volume.
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That is exactly how my Mogul works....... hold it up to your ear and try it.
now.... i want to design a sturdy replacement back with a coiled antenna and a place to store all these 2 Gbyte micro-SD chips
7r380r said:
That is exactly how my Mogul works....... hold it up to your ear and try it.
now.... i want to design a sturdy replacement back with a coiled antenna and a place to store all these 2 Gbyte micro-SD chips
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It works this way when you are inside of a call, yes, but I am referring to when you are OUTSIDE of a call, such as at the today screen. Currently, the only way to adjust the volume outside of a call would be by tapping on the volume icon and adjusting the volume.
The idea is to push in the scroll wheel's button to open that volume adjustment screen, so then we can just scroll the wheel up or down to change the device and ringer volume.
I agree that there needs to be a volume control like other HTC devices, however the scroll wheel is great for navigating menus, and pressing it in is the "enter" button. Would you really want to give that option up for something else? Imagine scrolling through your emails and you find the one to open and press it in only to be presented with the volume control instead. I wouldn't want that...
Also, remember that the scroll wheel and d-pad are linked. The hardware can't differentiate the two- in other words, whatever you set the scroll wheel and press-in to do, the d-pad and center button will do as well. Think about this really hard before you try it.
bump for the update
update from whom? This is your own thread!
Dishe said:
update from whom? This is your own thread!
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I edited my first post to include the zip, and then the thread was down towards the bottom, so I posted a bump reply so that it could be up to the top again, in the way it would have if I had posted the zip by hitting reply instead. Make sense?
I'm working on something similiar to this... kind of tricky...
I don't want to hook the whole input subsystem, so what I am attempting to do is create a today plugin and that will sieze control of the wheel when on the today screen and change the volume.
I've got it basically working, just need to tweak when it grabs control; right now it does it on WM_PAINT, but that message is sent quite a bit and spikes processor usage. And I'd like to get it working without actually drawing a window, not sure how well WM6 will play with that.
Aso need to see if I can make this work without it being the first item on the today screen.
For those interested the ticks on the volume balloon are the following values:
0xFFFFFFFF
0xCCCCCCCC
0x99999999
0x66666666
0x33333333
0x00000000
You can use those values with waveOutSetVolume(), just use NULL as the first parameter and the DWORD level as the second.
When I get it working, or tired of fighting with it, I'll post the source code.
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I edited my first post to include the zip, and then the thread was down towards the bottom, so I posted a bump reply so that it could be up to the top again, in the way it would have if I had posted the zip by hitting reply instead. Make sense?
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oh, ok!
As promised, consider it an alpha version. I have included a release compiled dll, the source, and a sample .reg file.
Basically, it is a today plugin that steals the focus whenever ever the today screen is shown, then uses the wheel to raise and lower the volume. I think it has to have a visible window, so I made the window 1 pixel high and transparent.
Probably still needs a little work painting and figuring out when to grab focus. Right now I use the WM_PAINT as a test because I figure if the window is getting drawn then it is a good assumption the today screen is active.
Please post any updates to the source.
For those using Wisbar Advance and a button mapping app like Smartskey, you can map the scroll wheel button push to the WA volume adjuster, right?
"mute" button
It's not exactly what you're talking about, but you can get a cab at http://ppcgeeks.com/ring-toggle-hardware-fix-for-mogul-titan-t8079.html that lets you set any hard button to toggle between vibrate and ring. So you can use it as a mute button (but not quiet/loud).
Hey all,
One off the pet hates i have about the hermes as compared to the wizard is the loss off the volume adjust on the left hand side.
I like the scroll wheel on the hermes but i hate that it doesn't automatically activate the volume bar, having to get out the stylus and tap the volume icon, or smudge up the screen trying to clumsily tap it with my thumb is annoying.
Is there anyway of making a press and hold of the wheel activate the volume? or anything along those lines?
I'm sure I'm not the only one with this pet hate.
Thanks in advance.
i would love this feature.. i miss it from my wizard
I have been trying to do this as well with key mapping software. However I cant find one that will open up the volume controls when I press a specific button. I am able to map presses to volume up/down but thats not what i want. Hopefully somebody else has a solution.
I know exactly what you guys mean.
@Knockz... have you tries this already with AE Button Plus? The new version better recognizes keys that the older versions could not.
I'll give it a try and see.
addfoster said:
Hey all,
One off the pet hates i have about the hermes as compared to the wizard is the loss off the volume adjust on the left hand side.
I like the scroll wheel on the hermes but i hate that it doesn't automatically activate the volume bar, having to get out the stylus and tap the volume icon, or smudge up the screen trying to clumsily tap it with my thumb is annoying.
Is there anyway of making a press and hold of the wheel activate the volume? or anything along those lines?
I'm sure I'm not the only one with this pet hate.
Thanks in advance.
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Think I may have the solution to your needs:
What I've done is use this portions of Wisbar (WisVol.exe) someone extracted from the full program.
Copied WisVol.exe to SD Card under programs
Made a Shortcut to: \Windows\Start Menu (with Resco Explorer)
Mapped my PTT Key to the new shortcut
Now I can access the volume with out using my stylus.
I use the PTT open the volume settings and the wheel to increase or decrease the volume.
Hope this helps....
Here is the file....
PTT Key?
Thanks Jac, I will have to give this a try. I should be able to map the exe directly to a key using aebutton plus. Hopefully this works.
PERFECT!!!! Just gave it a try. Linked my PTT key to the program using AEButtons Plus and now when I press it I can scroll my volume.
Thanks for the tim Jac. Somebody should build this into the next rom.
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PTT Key?
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On ATT 8525 HTC Phones have a new function Push To Talk (PTT) Kinda like a walkie talkie function
ahhh, well i got it all as i need now, using that wisbar and AEButton plus. Thanks to all.
Hi all,
I wanted you all to know another cool feature, use AEButton to trigger the wisbar volume bubble from the following post (it does not adjust volume on first click and it has a smaller step for volume settings):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1591985&postcount=5
Regards,
Nika.
WisBar Volume CAB
I've been using Wisbar Volume for quite a while and it's been wonderful...
To give back a little here is a cab I've made for easy install and removal with a shortcut to start menu (sorry no graphics for the shortcut)
I've also been using for a while the Wisbar Volume control above...it works great!
see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
stmcgill said:
Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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I was also wondering about that.
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I was also wondering about that.
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You most certainly can!
I use AE Button Plus. It is an amazing little app that lets you do just about anything with all the hardware buttons on the phone. It also lets you assign more than one behaviour to the same button- one for press, one for double press and so on... Check it out here http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hope this helps!
Nice one- thanks for that
Yes, excellent app !
I've been able to link to npop by adding the "mail" button but it still launched the built-in mail program, anyone figure out if it can be "inhibited" from AE ?
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can you also make the wheel scroll? or it that not possible with this app?
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Wheel? What wheel? I only wish the Touch Dual had a wheel
Very impressed with Touch Dual so far. I agree - the wheel would have made it an amazing device...
Maybe for the Touch Dual II?
I can't get it to scroll when you keep the button pressed (volume up button for scroll up volume down button for scroll down)
I've tried loads of different combinations to get it to scroll like the dpad.
If anyones got it working can you post how please?
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see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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the missing buttons refer to the volume buttons. just press and hold to activate them.
I've mapped button 2 and 3 and button 2 hold and button 3 hold to scroll up and scroll down.
The hold buttons work OK but they aren't usable as a scroller as it takes too long to activate but If I map the normal buttons to scroll up and down they still only change volume. If I map them to launch contacts they launch this fine some of the time but not always and other times they just change the volume. So no can do. This by the way is using pocket plus' built in button mapping program.
Jeremy
Hi,
I used to have a T-mobile MDA for 2+ years and I'm very acustomed to simply sliding a button up/down in order to increase/decrease ringer volume ( I simply hold it down for a few secs and it goes to slient).
I just got my HTC and find that the scroll wheel wants to scroll items on my "today" screen...instead of controlling the volume!!
Is this standard or is there a way I can have the scroll wheel control the Ringer?
i too want to know how to do this!
Anyone have any ideas on this? It's my only gripe left on the XV6800 and I've searched for quite a while trying to find any resolution.
If you open up the speaker icon, you can then use the scroll wheel to adjust the volume settings. Believe you can aslo adjust the volume with the scroll wheel when the phone is ringing.
Any better solutions than this?!
I'm not sure about it. One day out of nowhere my Mogul started using the scroll wheel as the volume control, even when I had programs opened (contacts, PIE, etc..) that I would use the scroll wheel with, it controlled the volume. It opened up the menu and would raise/lower, put into vibrate/silent. I don't remember installing any applications or anything, but I lost functionality of it as a volume control after just a soft-reset. I personally thought it was annoying trying to scroll through 175+ contacts and having the volume slider pop up instead.
I would assume there's some sort of background application you can acquire that allows this, but I haven't found one yet.
I was annoyed that the wheel doesn't control volume at will so I downloaded S2U2 (slide to unlock) and that program comes with a master volume control for the phone volume and in-call volume. I set it to one of my buttons on the left, its awesome.