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Hi I'm thinking of encoding video to playback on the Tytn, can someone please recommend a software that will keep the movie size small while maintaining quality.
Thanks
i've always found best results with avi format. TCPMP is available for free for the tytn but does have a playback issue which is very simply worked around.
As for software for converting your videos, I use CarryDVD (not free) for converting my dvd's - I found converting a DVD movie to a 250-300MB avi gives excellent results. For converting non-dvd video files, eg. larger avi files, I use the free version of Lathe - PocketDivX Encoder with Xvid and 2 pass encoding checked.
Hope this helps.
Matt
Ive used AutoGK, it encodes from several sources (including VOB files from DVDs) into Xvid or DivX.
I personally encode into .avi using Xvid (it does a 2pass Mpeg-4 Xvid encoding to .avi) and audio is encoded in MP3 at 128kbit VBR. And i set it to encode into 320x240.
Using Coreplayer (or TCPMP) it plays back FLAWLESSLY.
For example ive encoded an episode of the simpsons (22mins) from DVD into a 60Mb avi file and its just perfect playback on the TyTN. The performance TCPMP/Coreplayer seems to depend somewhat on the ROM you are using.
An excellent guide for using AutoGK alongside DVD Decrypter (both freeware) is found HERE on doom9.org. Using my analogy the filesize you set in AutoGK can be found using 5.45*minutes.
Use half that if you are encoding a low detail picture such as a cartoon (as i did with the simpsons). So for example a 30 minute video of a properly filmed source (ie friends, or cheers etc..) would use a filesize of 163.5Mb.
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i've always found best results with avi format. TCPMP is available for free for the tytn but does have a playback issue which is very simply worked around.
As for software for converting your videos, I use CarryDVD (not free) for converting my dvd's - I found converting a DVD movie to a 250-300MB avi gives excellent results. For converting non-dvd video files, eg. larger avi files, I use the free version of Lathe - PocketDivX Encoder with Xvid and 2 pass encoding checked.
Hope this helps.
Matt
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Thanks Guest69, i've downloaded the trial version of CarryDVD, if I like it i'll buy the software.
Not free, but I am using CloneDVDmobile from slysoft. $39, iirc, though I got the suite (ripping and decoding as well) a while back when it was on sale. Yes, there are free versions that do much of the same, but quite honestly I got tired of going multiple places to get updates. Seems to work well for encoding.
Just figured out that you have to choose the Raw Framebuffer option and NOT the ATI Imageon (in the TCPMP Video Options) in order to get normal playback on the hermes. I've got a recode of Madagascar that looks great at 300MB for the 80(?) minute movie at 320x(whatever the 16:9AR works out to). There are some tearing-like transition artifiacts, and minor artifacting if I keep my eyes within about 10" of the screen (which is as close as my old-fart eyes can focus).
I get good results with virtualdubmod. Have a look here: http://zodiacguide.sitesled.com/
I started off using the guide, but like to have as much control as possible so now I don't. Obviously depends on the codecs you install, but I like it.
Possibly not the simplest one-stop method.
Which Video encoder
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I use a product called DVD Catalyst there are two versions and you can download a Full 7-day uncrippled trial version here
http://www.pocketdvd.ca/
The program is a all in one ripper DVD to PDA/IPOD/PSP etc
Colin
Try Super. Completely FREE and converts between nearly every file format imaginable. You do need to play with the settings to get good results though. Try 300-400KBps to start with and increase / decrease based on performance, and remember to use single channel and fairly low quality sound to keep the file as small as possible (unless you have decent earphones (and an adapter ))
Super is good but doesn't not give you a 2-pass encode option. Try something like PocketDivxEncoder which has the 2-pass option for encoding to Xvid. It's also very easy to set up and fast.
I actually use WinMEnc. not as polished or professional as PocketDivXEncoder but will convert from DVD or .avi file and is excellent quality plus the second pass is twice as fast as PocketDivxEncoder. (Both are based around Mencoder). For years I did it manually using VDub Mod and even Auto GK.
Another vote for Super. Excellent program for converting any format into any format.
And completely free.
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Not free, but I am using CloneDVDmobile from slysoft. $39, ....... I've got a recode of Madagascar that looks great at 300MB for the 80(?) minute movie at 320x240.
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I've got CloneDVDmobile as well. I've used the full CLoneDVD for years with great success. The default for DVD encoding on CloneDVDmobile is set at a quality level of 23 or about 556 meg for a 2 hour movie. What quality level are you finding works best for the Hermes and DVD encoding to get as small an AVI file as possible without making the video un-watchable?
I try to keep my avi files to around 300mb per movie. This seems to keep a sharp picture even with action scenes.
Is there any software/player that can cut down dimension to fit VGA and be playable on Diamond DIRECTLY? For example, Diamond won't play 640x480 (it plays but freezes every 2 seconds).
It could be an all-in-one player or an intermediate streaming software like ORB. We all know ORB can cut down bigger dimension/resolution and stream the smaller to your phone, and the result is that every media file regardless of its dimension/resolution can play on your Diamond. Is there any software that can do exactly the same thing, but deal with FILES ALREADY ON YOUR PHONE? Basically it converts files already on your phone and simultaneously "streams" it to CorePlayer or WMP. Play as it converts.
But not a converter. I hate to convert in advance all those files to smaller size for Diamond, and keep bigger files for computer. I am sure a lot of you have all those "lone-night" movies that you abandon after watching once.
The CPU already chokes when it tries to playback high-birate video; converting on-the-fly just adds to the required processing. That is, it still has to read the file, demux the container, pass the individual streams into the codecs, and then instead of just displaying the decoded video on the screen (which it's already having trouble doing), you're asking it to take the video and re-compress it.
Unfortunately the vast majority of video codecs simply aren't scalar, so there's no effective way to do such a thing on a mobile device. It is possible to recompress on-the-fly by using a separate server, such as Flash Media Server on a PC or using a Slingbox, but obviously those files aren't locally stored.
Hi!
I want to know if there is a "best" way to enjoy the highest quality and smooth playback from veoh, youtube and also southpark.com .
Also, what settings do you recommend when converting movies, or mainly sitcoms dvds to the player. I want the best I can get without going into choppy mode...gotta love Three's Company on the go
Also recommendations on what program to use paid or free is welcome.
Thanks
I don't know about online website because most of them are usually choppy, but I do know about encoding videos for your Touch Pro2. If you want a free encoder (which I use) for your windows mobile phone it would be Windows Media Encoder (google it) its from Microsoft, it has built in settings for your windows mobile playback and you just have set resolution and how high your quality you would like. Also you could use At0mAng Enhanced D3D Driver to have a smoother movie on Windows Media Player on your Touch Pro 2. Thats pretty much it for putting movies on your Touch Pro 2.
Lots of trans-coders out there, but not nearly so many that can go directly from DVD to a file. Most you would have to rip from DVD first. A great exception is Handbrake (free). If you are going to use either Media Player or HTC album (both of which are accelerated under WM6.5), then you can go straight from DVD to high quality (720xwhatever, 1500kbps video MP4) and it plays flawlessly.
I will try that tonight.
I do have the D3D driver already.
BTW, I tried installing HTC album on my Tilt 2 but all I get is a was unsuccessful error.
Also with the Handbrake quote, you will need to have a unlocked DVD in order to rip your movie. Other that its mostly explained.
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Also with the Handbrake quote, you will need to have a unlocked DVD in order to rip your movie. Other that its mostly explained.
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I was not able to test much so I decided to give my favorite converter a shot (total video converter).
Used the pocket pc or similar profile and made the video (avi file) from 700MB to 400 by reducing quality but it was very choppy.
Then decided to give the original AVI a shot and it runs super smooth with core player (WMP cannot read it). The quality is awesome but way too big.
I tried the Windows Media Encoder 9 but I did not see a specific version that gives me the 400x800 resolution my device has.
Thanks
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I was not able to test much so I decided to give my favorite converter a shot (total video converter).
Used the pocket pc or similar profile and made the video (avi file) from 700MB to 400 by reducing quality but it was very choppy.
Then decided to give the original AVI a shot and it runs super smooth with core player (WMP cannot read it). The quality is awesome but way too big.
I tried the Windows Media Encoder 9 but I did not see a specific version that gives me the 400x800 resolution my device has.
Thanks
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Shaolin, you are looking in the incorrect place, at first it doesn't let you choose your screen resolution because you must select the type of file that fits into a type of device that is going to play that file that you are trying to play in WMP on your phone.
Here are the steps to get the video size you want, which I hope you will try, you must go to the New Session Wizard, then click on Convert a File (If you are trying to convert a video file into WMV).
Then find your source file which is your Video you want to watch on your TP2, after that choose your output (Where you want to put that file after it encoded into WMV)
After click Pocket PC (Note that you won't change resolution here)
After all that, choose specifically Pocket PC widescreen video (CBR), then choose the quality of your Bitrate, Audio, and if you want you can add all the Description to your video file if you'd like. (Note that you won't change resolution here either)
Click next, and DON'T check mark Begin converting when I click finish.
Then click finish, after that click Properties on your Windows Media Encoder 9 (it should be on top with a Check mark inside a paper symbol) and click the Video Size Tab. There at the bottom of the wizard you should find Width and Height, set the Resolution to 800 x 480 if you want to view your video horizantel or 480 x 800 which is vertical ( which I don't prefer ) After all that, your video should be small but at a good quality and allowing you to have free space on your Micro SD card, and it should be playing on WMP on your phone.
Hope this helps, good luck,
Kenichi
Dear Friends!
I spent last two weeks trying different app's to get best solution for Movie experience on our beloved Rhodium/Tilt2/Touch pro2 device.
The main idea was to get divx movie to play smoothly and to get best quality as possible.
As we know H.264 codec (mp4) is hardware supported and it gives best results.
So considering that, I got best video experience with inbuilt HTC player that supports hardware acceleration for video.
It does not have a lot of options, and scrolling forward and backward is a little cumber stone, but it provides the best picture so I think (IMHO) is still the best choice.
When Choosing right software my main goal was to have as few steps as possible.
I found that the easiest way to do the conversion is with ImTOO Video Converter Ultimate 6. (http://www.imtoo.com/video-converter.html)
I tried a lot of different software, Trial and Freeware, and ImToo proved to be the best from lot of different perspectives. So it's my number one choice for this task (and also some other video encoding stuff.)
STEP1. Subtitles (Skip to STEP2 if You don't need them)
In case English is not your native language, you would probably (like me) want to have some subtitles with your movie:
You will need to convert *.srt and *.sub subtitles to *.ssa type, so You could get 'Outline and Drop Shadow' effect.
'Subtitle Workshop' (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Subtitle_Workshop) seems perfect for that. (It has all needed settings and also Batch conversion option)
Press Shift+Alt+L to get to Settings/Output menu, where You can set the subtitle settings like Font, Color, etc.
Choose SubStation Alpha (*.ssa)
Border style: 'Outline + drop shadow'
Font:Arial, Bold, 22, (works best for me), encoding...
Load Subtitle and save it as SubStation Alpha format or use Batch Converting option under Tools/Batch Convert options (Ctrl+M) (if You have more than one subtitle to convert):
-set the source folder for subtitles, output folder, FPS and SubStation Alpha format.
STEP2. Encoding to H.264 format with Imtoo
a.Load your video file
b.Load the profile in general video format/ 'H.264/MPEG4 AVC video'
and set conversion settings to
Video: (Manually enter!) Video Size 800x480,
Note: If You enter for example 576x432 instead 800x480, there will be no sound on your HTC, only video. Don't ask me why, it's the same thing that happens to lots of people with many different encoders and it has something to do with AAC settings detailed, which will also change, when you change video settings....but I am not enough in to hardcore encoding, to understand what is the reason, I only know that this problem appears to be very common when converting for Rhodium with different software....
Bitrate 256K, Frame rate 25FPS(should be same as sub file FPS!)
Audio:Mpeg-4 AAC, 44100, 128K
Now You should set/add Subtitles:
Go to: Edit/effect/Subtitles. (Note: only Ultimate version of Imtoo!)
Add Sub if not already there, and set font to Arial, Style to Bold and Size to 22 (or smaller if You prefer)
Convert the movie and transfer it to Your Touch pro2
That's it!
Enjoy playing Your file on HTC.
Final Output size of the file is not the same as stated Output Size, nor it is the Bitrate. Imtoo bug I guess...But File plays smoothly enough at least for my taste.
Try and let me know how it works for You!
What i do is open you tube in chrome and i already have chrome extension installed on chrome.http://www.chromeextensions.org/music-videos-photos/chrome-youtube-downloader/. So when i play video i get options to save video in all the available formats and the Mp4 video i get is usually 20mb or 25 mb (sometimes less than that) in best quality.
Other thing you can do is go to this site http://keep-tube.com/ and downlaod video in MP4 format in great quality.
I think the best option is chrome extension because you get best quality video/audio with less size
Give it a try.
I don't know why you do this, just download core player
I watch LOST season 6 on my phone just download jackos s2 rom and disable manila for better performance
I use Pocket Divx Encoder to make xvid files of my favorite videos and then play them with CorePlayer using the QTV setting for best quality.
I use DivX Player. It was made for QVGA but works just fine on TP2, just the menus & fonts are small. It'll play DivX encoded AVI's that must DVDRips are.
I have a few DVD and Blu-ray rips stored as ISO or mkv on Windows. Is it worth converting them to a smaller file size for storing and playing on the N7? If yes, what format for video/audio should I use and can you please recommend a good an easy to use Windows conversion program? Thanks!
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I have a few DVD and Blu-ray rips stored as ISO or mkv on Windows. Is it worth converting them to a smaller file size for storing and playing on the N7? If yes, what format for video/audio should I use and can you please recommend a good an easy to use Windows conversion program? Thanks!
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MX player (and many others) should play mkvs and avis just fine. Try it first, it doesn't take long to copy a video onto the device.
If you encounter problems with said formats, try converting to H.264/mp4, this should be natively supported by android (any many others - its like THE codec to use nowadays )
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MX player (and many others) should play mkvs and avis just fine. Try it first, it doesn't take long to copy a video onto the device.
If you encounter problems with said formats, try converting to H.264/mp4, this should be natively supported by android (any many others - its like THE codec to use nowadays )
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Thanks! Limited space on the device is of concern too. Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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Thanks! Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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All my movies were ripped using Windows Media Player. They came in as .avi files.
Those play directly on the Nexus 7 without conversion.
I hated converting movies for cell phones... this is a lot better.
Try Handbrake,
It's converted all the dvd's I've thrown at it recently
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Thanks! Limited space on the device is of concern too. Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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mpeg4aac, ac3
Usually when you select the desired codec (or profile in some programs - for Android for example) it chooses audio codec automatically, the one that's usually used with chosen video codec.
I recommend xilisoft for converting, it's not free, but it's really hard to get a good free converter. You might wanna try it on linux, just install Ubuntu in a virtual machine, I'm sure there's some freeware converters made for linux
I use BSplayer, it woks on everything i tried and you get subtitles.
/cazrack
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I use BSplayer, it woks on everything i tried and you get subtitles.
/cazrack
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Caz is right, do not convert your movies it is time consuming and unnecessary use BSplayer and VLCplayer they will play anything you throw at it with subtitles and time stretching if needed, VLC supoprts more formats but BS will do for the majority.
Conversion will save storage space on your Nexus. I use HandBrake set to H264, AAC, in an MKV (or MP4) container. With the proper settings a 90 minute DVD takes about 400MB. It takes about 30-40 minutes to convert the original DVD file on an average PC (Intel i3 or i5).
ripbot264 is a great free tool although it requires you install a few other bits of software first, avisynth, ffdshow etc as its basically a front end gui for x264. Once done though it will give you a decent compromise between power and simplicity and works on 64 bit for a small % speed increase on video.
The other option for space limited devices is streaming over your own network using DLNA or upnp which is what I do
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The other option for space limited devices is streaming over your own network using DLNA or upnp which is what I do
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This works OK at home, not so much offline, e.g. the kids using the tablet in the car. I suppose an OTG USB dongle with a big flash drive would do the trick, but I'd like to keep it simple and have the movies on the built-in storage if possible to shrink them and fit more of them. I think the kids care a lot more about enjoying the content than some potential playing artifacts introduced by shrinking, unlike their dad
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Conversion will save storage space on your Nexus. I use HandBrake set to H264, AAC, in an MKV (or MP4) container. With the proper settings a 90 minute DVD takes about 400MB. It takes about 30-40 minutes to convert the original DVD file on an average PC (Intel i3 or i5).
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Could you please post the "proper settings" you are using? Thanks.
I am using VLC and never had to convert videos. its working just fine for me.
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I am using VLC and never had to convert videos. its working just fine for me.
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Playing any file type is fine, the problem is the limited storage. If a DVD ripped straight to mkv is about 3-4GB, you can't fit much on the device. Not sure what the shrunken target size for such a DVD should be so the quality doesn't suffer too much when played on the N7.
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I use HANDBRAKE, just like at least one previous poster, and I've encoded 500+ movies for viewing on both Tablets (N7 and GTab) and smaller PC screens.
I target around 700mb for ~480p, 1gb for ~720p, and 2gb for ~1080p video; but I find -1gb works best for streaming (and I mostly stream via WIFI),
If you're worried bout quality over file size, set the "quality" target to no less than 1000 avg bitrate (kbps), on the "Video" tab. Even a 2700kbps file can get choppy on an N7, so there's no need to aim too high... but it's your call.
Otherwise there should be a "Presets" list on the right side of the main Handbrake window, the "Normal" setting, under regular should be good to start with.
-Then drop in a video,
-check the "Picture" tab to make sure the resolution and cropping are alright
+ I usually use "keep aspect ratio", and no anamorphic, with a modulus of "2"
-read through the "Video Filters" tab to see if any of those might be a good idea (not usually needed)
-make sure the "Video" tab shows H.264 for codec, you can either use the lower standard frame rate (23.976), or the one from the original video, and set your target file size or quality on the right (as described above)
-then hit the "Audio" tab, and choose appropriate audio (i use AAC, Pro Logic II, and 128kbps, with "auto" sample rate)
-add subs if needed on "Subtitle" tab (burn them in to the image if you arent using a Android player that lets you choose subs while viewing)
-then check and see where the file is being outputted, change location/name if needed, and ensure it's being outputted as an MP4, or MKV (nothing odd)
-then either "Preview" the video, "Start", or "Add to Queue"
When you find settings that work well for you, you can "Add" a preset to the presets list, and make it your default... If I remember correctly I had to do this a couple times cause a few of the settings didn't take, so check your preset by closing Handbrake, reopening it, and droppping a file in before you just assume it's all set and ready to go.
You can also skim through the preferences and set default output folders and such.
After you have things the way you want them you should be left to pretty much drop files in, enque them, and then hit start and walk away.
And if you're on linux, holler, I have dual boot with Handbrake on both Ubuntu and Win7, so I can walk ya through either.
I use Freemake
I use Freemake (http://www.freemake.com/) to convert my MKV and ISO files. Just choose the Android mp4 format.
Personally I haven't converted a movie since I moved to android from an iPhone. Personally I just have a 64gb usb on my keyring (which cost about $30), and plug into my N7 with a USB OTG cable when I want to watch movies. The usb connection isn't perfect, but it works, and will save you a lot of time converting movies. On my N7 I use MXplayer and highly recommend it. Great piece of software for free.
If you want to keep them on your N7 then it would be necessary to convert to keep a reasonable amount though.
@rckoegel - Thank you VERY much for the tips. I will have to go back and read your post a few times.
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These are always changing but setting the video quality fairly low is the biggest help for small file size. The quality still appears quite good when viewing.
Another converter that is very handy is XMedia Recode. I use the portable version.
Painless setup:
Set input for DVD or Movie
Drag and drop video or Open DVD/File to convert
Set Output Format Profile to Google and Google Nexus 7
Set output folder
Right click video to encode->add job
Encode
You can tweak the output settings to anything you wish. It is a piece of cake to convert videos and twice as fast as HandBrake.