Slept through it this morning, discovered it only goes off twice and the tones aren't continuous unless i'm missing something obvious?
If it can't be changed then i will need to select a tone that is continuous, will i need to copy some tones files to the alarm directory? if so how?
I don't think it was ever intended as an alarm clock, the alarm funtion is a basic tool to provide a simple reminder for things that you wouldn't normally use the calendar or task functions for e.g. parking reminders.
Buy a simple battery alarm clock, it'll do the job far better.
no offence intended at all omneity but that answer is a little slippery.
Phones throughout the ages have had an "alarm" function [heck even the HD2 one has a "snooze" option!] which have done exactly what it said on the tin.
These are multifunction devices - otherwise why not just have the phone doing what a phone is supposed to do and leave off email/game/etc options?
maybe I am just ratty about it because I had the same issue this morning?! I only discovered yesterday that the HD2 alarm won't function if the phone is off
JonBaker76 I didn't even know it only rang twice. Yesterday it only rang once and there was such a long pause between it and the 2nd ring I thought that short single burst was it. Today I waited and found it did ring again so assumed it would keep repeating until snoozed or dismissed
If you do find a fix for it I would be interested to learn also - although to be fair I have the ring volumes loud and would usually be up by the 2nd round if not the first
I slept through it several times, now using G-Alarm
The fix is to chuck a 'continuous' tone into the windows root folder and select it. I'll be recording the sound of a numatic drill and putting that in
It might have to be a wav, will check tonight.
And i agree with your comments
The HD2 will also play video files, but I doubt if anyone would consider it a substitution for a cinema.
Not "slippery" just being pragmatic.
fight, fight
To be fair, an alarm is a very basic function and i actualy do use it in place of going to the cinema, i watch tons of films on it on my travels to work
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The HD2 will also play video files, but I doubt if anyone would consider it a substitution for a cinema.
Not "slippery" just being pragmatic.
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Apologies if you took offence to the word slippery; couldn't find a suitable way to express the impression of "why is this apple red?" "if you want a non-red fruit have an orange" type episode
I also feel I am being pragamatic in trying to find a way to make the "alarm" function work as one would naturally assume it aught [and how it does on countless other "lesser" phones] rather than having to resort to another piece of hardware fot this basic fuction.
And as it happens I fully intend from my phone to be a portable cinema for my my kids on long journeys - avi on the sd card and tcpmp looks a great option
I've been using WM's alarm since my first WM device (TYTN, TYTNII) and now on my HD2... Had it for a couple of months and it never failed...
Until this morning...
Phone had more than 50% battery, the alarm was on an well configured (indeed I never change the config)... I even always set 2 alarms (example: 1 at 7:00 the other at 7:15)... THEY BOTH FAILED...
After waking I set one of the alarms to trigged 20 mins after the actual time and it worked as always...
I'm kinda confused really... don't know what to think about this...
Any light on this issue would be much appreciated, I don't fancy installing 3rd party apps for things that my mobile should have "out of the box".
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And as it happens I fully intend from my phone to be a portable cinema for my my kids on long journeys - avi on the sd card and tcpmp looks a great option
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Coreplayer is great for films but no ac3 audio in case you didn't know. I started a thread earleir about tcpmp and ac3 plug in and one was linked for me. Gonna try it out tonight, just incae you didn't have it yet, the thread should be near the top, title: tcpmp and ac3
soponcio_virtual said:
I've been using WM's alarm since my first WM device (TYTN, TYTNII) and now on my HD2... Had it for a couple of months and it never failed...
Until this morning...
Phone had more than 50% battery, the alarm was on an well configured (indeed I never change the config)... I even always set 2 alarms (example: 1 at 7:00 the other at 7:15)... THEY BOTH FAILED...
After waking I set one of the alarms to trigged 20 mins after the actual time and it worked as always...
I'm kinda confused really... don't know what to think about this...
Any light on this issue would be much appreciated, I don't fancy installing 3rd party apps for things that my mobile should have "out of the box".
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Soft reset, hope it doesn't happen again is the best i can do mate
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Coreplayer is great for films but no ac3 audio in case you didn't know. I started a thread earleir about tcpmp and ac3 plug in and one was linked for me. Gonna try it out tonight, just incae you didn't have it yet, the thread should be near the top, title: tcpmp and ac3
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Thanks.
I set it up last night. I initially tried the 0.81RC version but after installing it kept giving me an error on initialising so uninstalled it and used the 0.72 version linked in the Apps forum here and it works a treat. Thomas the Tank Engine in all its glory
(actually I say that but the play/pause/forward button are blacked-out - I actually randomly jabbed at the black area to discover there were buttons underneath )
Going back to the Alarm I have read one thread too many about crashes where ultimately G-Alarm was found to be the culprit to be happy using that.
Also had a strange issue where alarm was set to 10.15am; as I was awake I pressed on the alarmat ~10.05 and reset it to 10.10am so I could see how it worked but it only went off at 10.15.
Went into the alarms and notification window and it had it there as 10.10 still
Klaxon is another Alarm-app I really can recommend....
Multiple alarms
I've been running Windows Mobile since it was Windows CE 2.0 and it's always had a problem with alarms getting doubled after resets. There is a company called Scarybearsoftware that has a fix called CheckNotifications that goes in and cleans out duplicates from the database. http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/product_detail.php?productname=checknotify
They also have a version down at the bottom of that page that you can put in the startup.
It works great for me, but I'm on WM2003SE and YMMV.
Bugs the hell out of me that it wont go off when switched off, I keep having to put the phone in airplane mode overnight, so i can use it as my alarm (as i have doe with all my previous phones) and not get woken by any random txts or calls!
Apart from that not had issue with it not happening at all.
I use SPB TIME does the job flawlessley.
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I don't think it was ever intended as an alarm clock, the alarm funtion is a basic tool to provide a simple reminder for things that you wouldn't normally use the calendar or task functions for e.g. parking reminders.
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Of course it is an alarm clock... they just didn't bother their arse to code it properly, more important fish to fry n' all that
hope
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Soft reset, hope it doesn't happen again is the best i can do mate
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soft-reset will do the trick, but as it was in my case, it will occur again and worst thing is ... you never know when
So here are the choices:
1. you can use other, better reliable devices, if you have any
2. I saw somewhere at this forum, when vibrating is also selected, there should be no problem
3. every evening soft-reset
4. advice from HTC support is to use default WM setting for the alarms instead of HTC application
(Start-settings-menu-all-Clock and alarm-alarm-click on the bell icon and select the alarm sound-tap OK to save the modifications)
5. other alarm application and hope again that problem is not somewhere in WM itself
In my case, I am using older V1.48(because V1.66 is still not released for our region) and after trick No2. it is still working more than 2 weeks
lakeland said:
Of course it is an alarm clock... they just didn't bother their arse to code it properly, more important fish to fry n' all that
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If they'd coded it to sound continuously until switched off it would lead to greater battery drain. As others have said, there are other third-party applications if you require a more persistent alarm. It's not a big deal for most users.
Mindreaver said:
I slept through it several times, now using G-Alarm
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I tried installing this one myself but gave up. How did you solve the "owners information" bit, which HD2 dont seem to have, which you have to type in to be able to purchase??
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Hi there!
As we all know, there are a bunch of threads about all the various system hangs; battery drains; camera issues; SD cards not appearing; many reboots required, and so forth. (I think I started a few myself!)
Anyways, to me, the biggest pain is that I can no longer EVER trust my PocketPC alarm.
For the first time in five years, I actually missed a hockey game last week because I did set the alarm to wake me from a power nap, but the pocketPC froze. No alarm. No hockey.
I figured I would do some tests, and the first one failed.
I set the alarm for 1:00pm, with the Cingular Sound as the Alarm, and it missed it!
100 times on 100 times, my Cingular 8125 Alarms would ALWAYS work ontime.
Does anyone else "not trust" their Herme's alarms?
If you had an important business meeting, would you trust this alarm to wake you, or not a chance?
I hope I don't sound too much like a pessimist here... I am just curious if others won't trust these alarms, too....
Michael_514 said:
Hi there!
As we all know, there are a bunch of threads about all the various system hangs; battery drains; camera issues; SD cards not appearing; many reboots required, and so forth. (I think I started a few myself!)
Anyways, to me, the biggest pain is that I can no longer EVER trust my PocketPC alarm.
For the first time in five years, I actually missed a hockey game last week because I did set the alarm to wake me from a power nap, but the pocketPC froze. No alarm. No hockey.
I figured I would do some tests, and the first one failed.
I set the alarm for 1:00pm, with the Cingular Sound as the Alarm, and it missed it!
100 times on 100 times, my Cingular 8125 Alarms would ALWAYS work ontime.
Does anyone else "not trust" their Herme's alarms?
If you had an important business meeting, would you trust this alarm to wake you, or not a chance?
I hope I don't sound too much like a pessimist here... I am just curious if others won't trust these alarms, too....
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I trust mine - you need to do good "notification queue" maintenance. It is a known problem with Windows Mobile". I use SK Tools, but there are other free ones. Do a google search for "windows mobile" "notification queue" clean or something or another. You will find it. Otherwise, get an alarm program. Sad about missing hockey - hockey rules! Especially since you are from such a great hockey city - probably second only to Detroit. (Before you get too mad - think Patrick Roy, Statue of Liberty, Colorado - need I say more?)
I dont trust my alarm..but I think its mainly just me not hearing it, running the latest lvsw rom, and my tytn has never been more stable, 0 lockups etc...
I have only noticed some crappy software not clearing out of the notification queue, it seems to maintain itself fairly well, I dont even mess with it anymore...(pdanet on wm5 was one of em)
I recommend mortplayer...but if your device locks up..then no software is going to work, so that doesnt really matter which alarm you use.
@Michael_514
To be honest no I don't even 95% success in the alarm going off is no good form me.
Clearing the notifications queue and resetting the alarm, when your ROM is not the best is important as stated above. BUT from your other posts I know you suffer repeated freezing/hanging, so no matter how clean your notifications queue, you still risk alarms not going off. The hanging and freezing issues in your case need sorting else the alarm cannot be trusted.
Mike
I use this http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1299 which work everytime and dont course problems also.
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ATT8525 with the ATTWM5 Rom
All of a sudden no alarm will work on this device. I have SPB Time and City Time Alarm both installed and ever since Saturday morning my daily alarms do not sound.
Thought it was a fluke at first but I've been playing with it tonight trying several different times and nothing seems to work. I even tried the built in WM5 alarm and it didn't work either.
This isn't related to the no sound issue I've inquired about in the past as right now all my OTHER sounds are working.
I've also done multiple soft resets and I've checked and double checked that my phone has the correct time and time zone.
Any ideas?
Thanks
It sounds like you have some duplicate/out of date/bad notifications in your notifications queue.
First do a full backup (just in case) then:
You need to use a 3rd party app such as Checknotifications (free), Memmaid, SK tools.
Use one of these to eliminate duplicate notifications and see if things start working again. If not, unfortunately you will have to go through each one manually. Look at the ones beginning Calendar and Clock. Make sure that the time/date for these is in the future. Delete the ones that are not. Leave alone the other notifications some of these are necessary for other processes.
See if it works now.
If not, you may have to do a hard reset. Good luck!
marisa4755 said:
It sounds like you have some duplicate/out of date/bad notifications in your notifications queue.
First do a full backup (just in case) then:
You need to use a 3rd party app such as Checknotifications (free), Memmaid, SK tools.
Use one of these to eliminate duplicate notifications and see if things start working again. If not, unfortunately you will have to go through each one manually. Look at the ones beginning Calendar and Clock. Make sure that the time/date for these is in the future. Delete the ones that are not. Leave alone the other notifications some of these are necessary for other processes.
See if it works now.
If not, you may have to do a hard reset. Good luck!
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Thanks for the reply.
Memaid did the trip as it was a built up queue of notifications. Not sure what caused that but at least it's fixed without having to do a hard reset.
This never happened with my 8125, strange.
Also, this fixed a couple of other issues I was having.
My 8525 had stopped pairing with my automobile's BT and it did this morning, and the last few days the phone and stopped doing the first active sync of the day (at 0700) automatically. It did this morning.
Looks like I may check into purchasing Memaid. It's a handy little program.
I have to admit, it's one of the first apps on any device I own. Especially now that it has a reg editor too.
Beware, you may need to do the notifications queue clearout quite frequently, just keep an eye on it for a day or 2. I've found that if you use windows live mobile, this puts 3 or 4 duplicates on your system at every soft reset! Don't you just love microsoft applications?
marisa4755 said:
I have to admit, it's one of the first apps on any device I own. Especially now that it has a reg editor too.
Beware, you may need to do the notifications queue clearout quite frequently, just keep an eye on it for a day or 2. I've found that if you use windows live mobile, this puts 3 or 4 duplicates on your system at every soft reset! Don't you just love microsoft applications?
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Gee I wonder if the iPhone's have to do this?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
They probably would have to if they were allowed to install 3rd party applications!
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They probably would have to if they were allowed to install 3rd party applications!
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Sharp answer Marisa4755 - I also think texas should be punished for that uncalled for remark; I'm thinking 6 month ban (I always was too lenient )
Mike
Nah
I'll just retaliate by posting on the iphone-developers forums
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Nah
I'll just retaliate by posting on the iphone-developers forums
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Oh thank you.
At first I thought you all were just ganging up on my since I'm across the pond from you all. <G>
Kinda back to my original question.
What is up with the Notification Queue? I currently have 37 "time based" entries. A few of these are obvious. But I have a whole mess named "\\.\Notifications\NamdedEvents\Scripts:0x0023B3D0" and a couple of dozen more with similar hexadecimal(?) endings.
They are all "dated to run" on September 26, 2007 at various times of the morning.
The thing is, nothing is in my calender on that date. So what in the world are those entries? Are they safe to delete?
Thanks
Don't mind us, if you play with Windows mobile, you just have to have a laugh as often as possible (makes up for all the crying!).
On your alarms/reminders/notifications etc, do you have the setting on for 'flash light'? If so, do you have this set for no limit? If so, I think these are your scripts as above. If they are set as no limit, I think they go on for around 40 days or so. So probably they relate to an event 40 ish days before 26 September.
They might also relate to some other software you are running. I understand TomTom puts some strange notifications in.
If so, they are PROBABLY fine to delete. As long as you do a full backup before touching them, then if it all goes pear shaped, just restore your backup.
Whatever you do, don't touch the repllog.exe entries. These relate to activesync and if you delete these, you will have a lot of trouble with synchronising.
If, however you do accidentally delete a repllog file that you should't, Mike has written an excellent guide on how to get it back!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302459&highlight=repllog.exe+activesync
marisa4755 said:
Don't mind us, if you play with Windows mobile, you just have to have a laugh as often as possible (makes up for all the crying!).
On your alarms/reminders/notifications etc, do you have the setting on for 'flash light'? If so, do you have this set for no limit? If so, I think these are your scripts as above. If they are set as no limit, I think they go on for around 40 days or so. So probably they relate to an event 40 ish days before 26 September.
They might also relate to some other software you are running. I understand TomTom puts some strange notifications in.
If so, they are PROBABLY fine to delete. As long as you do a full backup before touching them, then if it all goes pear shaped, just restore your backup.
Whatever you do, don't touch the repllog.exe entries. These relate to activesync and if you delete these, you will have a lot of trouble with synchronising.
If, however you do accidentally delete a repllog file that you should't, Mike has written an excellent guide on how to get it back!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302459&highlight=repllog.exe+activesync
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Thanks. I think the message notification thing is the reason. I do have the flash light checked and their seems to be a correlation between the entries and the number of messages I currently have in OL.
Thanks again for all the help!
Hopefully I can return the favor sometime.
David
I hope by now you have solved your (our) problem. I was able to fix my problem by installing a free program from Burr Oak called Wakeup Tweak.
I never ever RAN the program - I just installed it. During installation, it asked me if I wanted to use default notifications and I said yes.
I then tested an appointment alarm (before running Wakeup Tweak) and the alarm worked.
Hey there... I used to have the same problem under WM5 (I think it was a known fault and the idea was to fix that for WM6). My reminders didn't work, and my alarm, initially came on but I could not dismiss it, and so came back on the moment I switched my phone back on etc. I found that using Pocket Mechanic and then deleting all 'clock.exe' entries i which have the word obsolete added under the type column solves the problem. I think some people have experienced problems doing this and it messed up their device. I, personally, never had any problems but you may want to back up things just in case. Again, it's not a long-term solution and I had to do that every couple of weeks. The deleting of duplicate notification did not, for me, restore reminders etc. I have to say ever since I upgraded to WM6 I have not had this problem so I guess Microsoft fixed this issue.
Hello,
Please forgive me if this post is misplaced.
I recently got given an I-Mate K-Jam (G4), which wasn't working. I stumbled upon these forums, and since then, haven't left.
I started off by loading Wizard Love, which bought the device back to life. Imagine the smile on my face when I realised that I could instead load WM6! I'm now running XDAm6r3, Radio 2.69.11, skype over wi-fi, etc, along with a few additional apps installed and loving it! iPhone? Please! Who needs an iPhone! Heh.
Anyway, the question I wished to ask was if anyone here is aware of alternative alarm clock software. The built in alarm is rather annoying. See, I'm the type of person that likes to simply hit a single button to snooze the alarm for another 5 or 10 minutes. The existing software requires at least half an open eye and three button presses to snooze (Menu, snooze, choose time, etc)
(Coming from an extensive Nokia background, this is something that's always been built into their alarm software... Kinda looking for the same, where the right soft key is an instant snooze...)
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Denham
try pocketalarm, its not free but its very good. when alarm goes off you can snooze for 1,5,10,20 mins etc and also just stop it. it does mp3 alarm and repeated alarms .
one thing though the phone needs to be on for it to work, i use psshutxp to switch the display off on my wizard and then leave on charge next to my bed , so the phone stays on but doesnt burn out your screen
pTravelAlarm has been my favorite for a couple of years now. Look for it at
http://www.burroak.on.ca/pta.html
I see I need to upgrade myself. You get a 30 day trial period to see if you like it before splurging $9.99. So far for me that works out to about $2.50 a year........
thezoltar said:
pTravelAlarm has been my favorite for a couple of years now. Look for it at
http://www.burroak.on.ca/pta.html
I see I need to upgrade myself. You get a 30 day trial period to see if you like it before splurging $9.99. So far for me that works out to about $2.50 a year........
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Here's the best alarm clock program out there, and it's FREE forever! Snooze settings, easy to understand options, very reliable. Activates if phone is shut down, suspended,etc.
Hi,
My first post - sorry about the agressive title, but I really am a little frustrated with my new HD2 which I have had for about 3 weeks now. Some of the things may be due to my ignorance and others are to me clearly errors:
1) Alarm clock does not always work. I set the alarm and set the phone to silent (I use that every day). The alarm goes of, but only displays a message on the screen and no sound (which reallly does not wake me up). I tried experimenting and turning up the ringer volume and setting a new alarm. The result is that the phone uses my e-mail sound for the alarm! If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while. I have set the flag is the settings specifying that alarm should sound even i silent mode.
2) Data connectivity drop outs/malfunction. I can have all signal bars on a 3G signal and the browser gives me "Not able to display page". I've tried Opera and IE and I've also tried closing all tasks, nothing helps. If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while.
3) Not able to delete multiple mails at once. On my iPhone I can click Edit, mark the mails I want to delete and then click delete. I get a lot of spam/commercials that I delete without reading, so its a nice feature for me.
4) Keyboard is just way to sensitive - I make so many typos on the HD2 keyboard and the arrow keys are next the space key, so many times I also end up pressing those
5) Speakerphone - the volume can wake up dead people and it is not possible to turn it down (enough)
6) Dropped network connections/no access - The phone seems to switch constantly between E/H/3G connections and sometimes inbetween I just don't have network access at all, e.g. I can't make/receive calls.
7) Video recording. If there is just a little movement in the scene - I get seasick from watching the recording
8) Freeze during incoming call. The phone just freezes and the Start menu changes to: "We're sorry..." - Soft reset required...sigh!
9) Mails deleted on the phone (OUtlook/Exchange account) is kept on the server and visa versa. On my iPhone, deleting a mail on the phone or in Outlook instantly (with the next send/receive) removes it from the phone/pc. On my HD2 that does not seem to happen
10) Charging via USB/PC - I use that a lot, also on pc's that do not have ActiveSync installed. On the iPhone you can do that and when you plug it in it brings up a dialog asking what you want to do - ONCE. On the HD2 I get a messsage saying "New hardware is detected" every single time I unlock the phone e.g. to read a new message, mail etc. That is so annoying.
I'm on 1.48 and applied all three released hotfixes (Camera, SMS and SD card). I've only installed Tomtom and Navigon (trial) and nothing else.
Any help is appreciated as I'm stuck with this phone for the next 6 months.
Thanks,
Jacob
Hi Jacob,
Have you looked at the hints and tips thread here that should help you get over some of the problems you have? Have you read any of the forums at all?
There are solutions to some of your issues on here. Use this tool to help you find them...http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Good luck
WB
onkeldunkel said:
Hi,
My first post - sorry about the agressive title, but I really am a little frustrated with my new HD2 which I have had for about 3 weeks now. Some of the things may be due to my ignorance and others are to me clearly errors:
1) Alarm clock does not always work. I set the alarm and set the phone to silent (I use that every day). The alarm goes of, but only displays a message on the screen and no sound (which reallly does not wake me up). I tried experimenting and turning up the ringer volume and setting a new alarm. The result is that the phone uses my e-mail sound for the alarm! If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while. I have set the flag is the settings specifying that alarm should sound even i silent mode.
2) Data connectivity drop outs/malfunction. I can have all signal bars on a 3G signal and the browser gives me "Not able to display page". I've tried Opera and IE and I've also tried closing all tasks, nothing helps. If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while.
3) Not able to delete multiple mails at once. On my iPhone I can click Edit, mark the mails I want to delete and then click delete. I get a lot of spam/commercials that I delete without reading, so its a nice feature for me.
4) Keyboard is just way to sensitive - I make so many typos on the HD2 keyboard and the arrow keys are next the space key, so many times I also end up pressing those
5) Speakerphone - the volume can wake up dead people and it is not possible to turn it down (enough)
6) Dropped network connections/no access - The phone seems to switch constantly between E/H/3G connections and sometimes inbetween I just don't have network access at all, e.g. I can't make/receive calls.
7) Video recording. If there is just a little movement in the scene - I get seasick from watching the recording
8) Freeze during incoming call. The phone just freezes and the Start menu changes to: "We're sorry..." - Soft reset required...sigh!
9) Mails deleted on the phone (OUtlook/Exchange account) is kept on the server and visa versa. On my iPhone, deleting a mail on the phone or in Outlook instantly (with the next send/receive) removes it from the phone/pc. On my HD2 that does not seem to happen
10) Charging via USB/PC - I use that a lot, also on pc's that do not have ActiveSync installed. On the iPhone you can do that and when you plug it in it brings up a dialog asking what you want to do - ONCE. On the HD2 I get a messsage saying "New hardware is detected" every single time I unlock the phone e.g. to read a new message, mail etc. That is so annoying.
I'm on 1.48 and applied all three released hotfixes (Camera, SMS and SD card). I've only installed Tomtom and Navigon (trial) and nothing else.
Any help is appreciated as I'm stuck with this phone for the next 6 months.
Thanks,
Jacob
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Throw it away, better yet send it to me!
I mentioned that in another thread, but I think it fits better here :
What I hate about the HD2:
1- Screen bugs. You must rely on your luck to get a good working screen
2- Voicecall quality: for some people it's acceptable but for too many others, the quality is one of the worst you can get for a 1000$ phone. Noise, crackle, distortion etc..
3- SMS loading time is miserable. HTC still is not aware of the problem or they are ignoring us because they know that their software code is buggy and needs recoding
4- Some if not most HTC devices have some hardware flaw like screen not evenly aligned with the frame that puts some question marks whether if it's going to put us into trouble in the future or not ie: top notch ( can leak water, dust, backlight, whatsoever ) or something like that http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4&postcount=94
5- Mediocre back speaker performance. And when it rings, it really feels like a cheap phone.
6- loose keypad. That's not really a problem but sometimes it's annoying, it also feels cheap in hand although the build quality is almost excellent.
7- Poor battery life, I mean really poor. If I forget to charge it at night, forget about calling me the next day.
8- Very sharp lens frame. That's not a big deal if you keep your device in its case but if not, beware, this thing can scratch anything it touches.
That's for me, you must also note that what I wrote is subjective and based on a comparison with my old XDA and HTC devices.
Hope that clears up things.
Hi WB,
Yep - I've read most of the posts (that looked relevant) on the Leo forums for the last month or so. I'm also aware that I can e.g. install a different alarm clock, connect to the standard button/place on the screen (described on Pocketnow), I also know there is a sensitivity tweak, I can install alternative keyboards and so on, but come on should that really be necessary on a state-of-the-art phone like the HD2?
Best regards,
Jacob
yeah, I got f-****ed by the alarm clock twice .
blame myself for not testing out.
Funny, that I do not seem to have your problems in the even no. of your points 2,4,6,8,10
A question of each piece of HD2?
onkeldunkel said:
Hi,
My first post - sorry about the agressive title, but I really am a little frustrated with my new HD2 which I have had for about 3 weeks now. Some of the things may be due to my ignorance and others are to me clearly errors:
1) Alarm clock does not always work. I set the alarm and set the phone to silent (I use that every day). The alarm goes of, but only displays a message on the screen and no sound (which reallly does not wake me up). I tried experimenting and turning up the ringer volume and setting a new alarm. The result is that the phone uses my e-mail sound for the alarm! If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while. I have set the flag is the settings specifying that alarm should sound even i silent mode.
2) Data connectivity drop outs/malfunction. I can have all signal bars on a 3G signal and the browser gives me "Not able to display page". I've tried Opera and IE and I've also tried closing all tasks, nothing helps. If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while.
3) Not able to delete multiple mails at once. On my iPhone I can click Edit, mark the mails I want to delete and then click delete. I get a lot of spam/commercials that I delete without reading, so its a nice feature for me.
4) Keyboard is just way to sensitive - I make so many typos on the HD2 keyboard and the arrow keys are next the space key, so many times I also end up pressing those
5) Speakerphone - the volume can wake up dead people and it is not possible to turn it down (enough)
6) Dropped network connections/no access - The phone seems to switch constantly between E/H/3G connections and sometimes inbetween I just don't have network access at all, e.g. I can't make/receive calls.
7) Video recording. If there is just a little movement in the scene - I get seasick from watching the recording
8) Freeze during incoming call. The phone just freezes and the Start menu changes to: "We're sorry..." - Soft reset required...sigh!
9) Mails deleted on the phone (OUtlook/Exchange account) is kept on the server and visa versa. On my iPhone, deleting a mail on the phone or in Outlook instantly (with the next send/receive) removes it from the phone/pc. On my HD2 that does not seem to happen
10) Charging via USB/PC - I use that a lot, also on pc's that do not have ActiveSync installed. On the iPhone you can do that and when you plug it in it brings up a dialog asking what you want to do - ONCE. On the HD2 I get a messsage saying "New hardware is detected" every single time I unlock the phone e.g. to read a new message, mail etc. That is so annoying.
I'm on 1.48 and applied all three released hotfixes (Camera, SMS and SD card). I've only installed Tomtom and Navigon (trial) and nothing else.
Any help is appreciated as I'm stuck with this phone for the next 6 months.
Thanks,
Jacob
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I gotta feeling you have totally different device man Seems this is really a question of each piece of device... E.g. I've no bugs with screen, keyboard, calls, alarm clock... Also after the official fixes and some additional patches (DAMIEN's camera fixes) the photos and video in mpeg4 is awesome (you can check out my photos on forum).
sorry for stating the obvious but maybe you actually still want an iphone. sell Leo and get an iphone 3GS mate as you clearly still stuck on iphone.I have many annoying things on mine but i am sure that customs roms will fix all these issues when we can flash them. its the same with most new devices mate, they are just not perfect and patience is needed. the raw power under the hood of this thing has not been tamed yet dude so hold tight. it took the HTC Rhodium to finally get a good blend of touchflo 3D and winmo. it will get better dude
OK, so let's try to help a bit, shall we?
1) Alarm clock does not always work. I set the alarm and set the phone to silent (I use that every day). The alarm goes of, but only displays a message on the screen and no sound (which reallly does not wake me up). I tried experimenting and turning up the ringer volume and setting a new alarm. The result is that the phone uses my e-mail sound for the alarm! If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while. I have set the flag is the settings specifying that alarm should sound even i silent mode.
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Yes, that is a problem that Windows Mobile has had from the beginning. I've got no idea why they don't get that fixed, but whatever...
...there are good replacemet alarm programs, like G-Alarm and others, that are much better that the built in alarm. Try one of those.
2) Data connectivity drop outs/malfunction. I can have all signal bars on a 3G signal and the browser gives me "Not able to display page". I've tried Opera and IE and I've also tried closing all tasks, nothing helps. If I turn the phone on/off everything works fine again for a while.
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Sorry, I can't help with this. Maybe it's a problem of the phone's radio firmware that doesn't work well with your carrier's network.
Watch out for radio ROM upgrades!
3) Not able to delete multiple mails at once. On my iPhone I can click Edit, mark the mails I want to delete and then click delete. I get a lot of spam/commercials that I delete without reading, so its a nice feature for me.
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In Outlook, press Menu --> Select Messages --> Several
4) Keyboard is just way to sensitive - I make so many typos on the HD2 keyboard and the arrow keys are next the space key, so many times I also end up pressing those
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Download 'BSB Config' and reduce the screen sensitivity.
BSB Config is a must-have anyway.
5) Speakerphone - the volume can wake up dead people and it is not possible to turn it down (enough)
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I don't have a problem with it and I don't know a solution. Sorry.
6) Dropped network connections/no access - The phone seems to switch constantly between E/H/3G connections and sometimes inbetween I just don't have network access at all, e.g. I can't make/receive calls.
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Yes that happens to me also. This is radio firmware related for sure. As said before: Watch out for radio ROM upgrades.
7) Video recording. If there is just a little movement in the scene - I get seasick from watching the recording
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No problem with that. Sorry can't help.
8) Freeze during incoming call. The phone just freezes and the Start menu changes to: "We're sorry..." - Soft reset required...sigh!/QUOTE]
Disable Windows Error Reporting with BSB Config.
Error Reporting is responsible for several problems, including music player crashes and others.
9) Mails deleted on the phone (OUtlook/Exchange account) is kept on the server and visa versa. On my iPhone, deleting a mail on the phone or in Outlook instantly (with the next send/receive) removes it from the phone/pc. On my HD2 that does not seem to happen
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Have you enabled push synchronization?
Every change I make on my phone Outlook gets immediately synchronized with my Exchange account and vise vers, so maybe you just have not enabled push.
10) Charging via USB/PC - I use that a lot, also on pc's that do not have ActiveSync installed. On the iPhone you can do that and when you plug it in it brings up a dialog asking what you want to do - ONCE. On the HD2 I get a messsage saying "New hardware is detected" every single time I unlock the phone e.g. to read a new message, mail etc. That is so annoying.
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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. None of my PCs brings up any message except for the first time I plug it in, but maybe that's because all of them run Windows 7.
1- Screen bugs. You must rely on your luck to get a good working screen
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I'm pretty sure most people have one with a good working screen
2- Voicecall quality: for some people it's acceptable but for too many others, the quality is one of the worst you can get for a 1000$ phone. Noise, crackle, distortion etc..
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It's not only acceptabel... it's great
3- SMS loading time is miserable. HTC still is not aware of the problem or they are ignoring us because they know that their software code is buggy and needs recoding
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True. But I prefer the standard WM SMS interface anyways, so what? I think HTC should not have made a replacement in the first place, now they only have problems with it...
4- Some if not most HTC devices have some hardware flaw like screen not evenly aligned with the frame that puts some question marks whether if it's going to put us into trouble in the future or not ie: top notch ( can leak water, dust, backlight, whatsoever ) or something like that http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4&postcount=94
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Hardware flaws? Not at all, the HD2 is probably the highest quality phone ever created. Of course that does not eliminate the possibility of production faults, but saying that 'most' devices have flaws is ridiculous.
5- Mediocre back speaker performance. And when it rings, it really feels like a cheap phone.
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Well, actually, according to professional tests, it's one on the better speakers among phones. Not the best, but better than e.g. the iPhone and lots of others.
6- loose keypad. That's not really a problem but sometimes it's annoying, it also feels cheap in hand although the build quality is almost excellent.
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That is by design. You wouldn't be able to press the keys anymore if they were not that 'loose'.
8- Very sharp lens frame. That's not a big deal if you keep your device in its case but if not, beware, this thing can scratch anything it touches.
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True.
Okay, now to my own list (which is a bit shorter):
1) Storage. Most people who buy the phone probably don't have a clue about hov to free up the internal memory, how to delete Youtube caches, the Copilot executable files etc. That is a huge issue, because those same people also have no clue about how to get applications from outside the Marketplace, which doesn't allow installations to the storage card. This is a huge issue for non-powerusers, and given the popularity of the phone, there's probably lots of users running into it.
2) The music player: There is no search bar or (alphabetic) scrollbar.
3) UI flaws: Swiping through TouchFlo Tabs should be fluid, like swiping through pages on the iPhone's Springboard. Scrolling in TouchFlo is not optimized, can be made a bit better via registry (speed, friction), but still laggy sometimes. Pinching in Opera is much too slow, that's much better in Safari. RSS Hub lags a lot.
4) The messaging applications. I've not had any problems so far and I've turned it off in favor of the default one anyways, but HTC should not have created it at all. The default one was okay and similar to the Email one as part of Outlook, there was nothing wrong.
5) The radio firmware - buggy as hell, that's all I have to say about it.
6) The camera flash brightness and/or exposure should adjust according to the distance of the target, which is determined by the auto focus, to prevent overexposure.
Other than that: Great phone
No phone is perfect these days, unfortunately, but this one, I think, comes closest.
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onkeldunkel said:
....but come on should that really be necessary on a state-of-the-art phone like the HD2?
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I agree with you. However windows mobile devices are not as "simple" as the Iphone that I believe you have just come from. I know I risk opening up world war 3 by merely mentioning iphone in this post so let's move on quickly.
Regretably, as an early adopter, you will have to invest some considerable time tweaking the device to get it to what you thought you had bought. Most seasoned winmobile owners are used to this, hence the existence of XDA-Developers.
Once innovations like SPL/Hard SPL are with us then you will, if you wish, get the opportunity to change your roms at will and customise your device ad-nauseum. If this is not the journey you wish to take then you will have to reconsider your purchase and go for something else.
I'm definitely not being arsey, just being a realist.
Hope you make the right decision for you.
Cheers
WB
@Seed_al: This is really good stuff - thank you very much for taking the time to answer my post. I will give BSB Config a try and also G-Alarm (I really depend on the alarm to wake me up )
The tip for selecting multiple messages is also great. Another n00b question - how do you enable push for an Outlook account?
Thanks,
Jacob
Sigh, just one another of those "I hate my HD2/The worst phone I ever had, etc. threads. It is just getting boring. I does not contribute anything, so I would like to ask the mods to have a close look to these kind of threads and judge/act on them them as demmed necessary.
kuzibri said:
Sigh, just one another of those "I hate my HD2/The worst phone I ever had, etc. threads. It is just getting boring. I does not contribute anything, so I would like to ask the mods to have a close look to these kind of threads and judge/act on them them as demmed necessary.
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In fairness, he's getting (mostly) constructive responses, so if he gets answers to problems then isn't that what this whole forum is about?
I do actually agree that there are too many "slagging off" threads, but as long as something good comes from it then it's worthwhile. If someone reads it and fixes issues they have with their phone, then who cares about the people that simply agree and flog their phone. That's 1 less person whining on the forums! lol
wacky.banana said:
I agree with you. However windows mobile devices are not as "simple" as the Iphone that I believe you have just come from. I know I risk opening up world war 3 by merely mentioning iphone in this post so let's move on quickly.
Regretably, as an early adopter, you will have to invest some considerable time tweaking the device to get it to what you thought you had bought. Most seasoned winmobile owners are used to this, hence the existence of XDA-Developers.
Once innovations like SPL/Hard SPL are with us then you will, if you wish, get the opportunity to change your roms at will and customise your device ad-nauseum. If this is not the journey you wish to take then you will have to reconsider your purchase and go for something else.
I'm definitely not being arsey, just being a realist.
Hope you make the right decision for you.
Cheers
WB
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Excellent answer and you are right - the unmentionable (is that a word) puts much harder restrictions on what can be done and by whom.
You are also spot on with the earlier adopter - I'm always doing that, not only with phones Maybe I should just see this as a new opportunity to explore the WM world I just need to sort out the most basic issues, like alarm, keyboard, mail etc. I got a 6-month contract with the phone, so I definately keeping it and I really like the hardware side of it...
Thanks,
Jacob
kuzibri said:
Sigh, just one another of those "I hate my HD2/The worst phone I ever had, etc. threads. It is just getting boring. I does not contribute anything, so I would like to ask the mods to have a close look to these kind of threads and judge/act on them them as demmed necessary.
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Have you read my 1st post in this thread? I'm not saying that this is the worst phone I ever had, because that was my Qtek 9100 I'm saying it had some flaws IMHO and as John says I actually got very good answers that already helped me...
Best regards,
Jacob
Well, with a bit of luck, you'll get to see a lot more within those six months... maybe we HD2 owners will be among the first to be able to try out Windows Mobile 7
But yes, I fully agree with wacky.banana. There is a relatively high learning curve with Windows Mobile and it can't be denied that there are/were issues with the first devices/software versions that we early adopters have/had to deal with.
On the other hand, we get some great advantages over the unmentionable phone, but of course also disadvantages - there is just no perfect phone - but I personally love the HD2, think it has a lot more advantages than problems. In the end, there probably will never be a perfect phone, and it will always be a personal decision.
kuzibri said:
Sigh, just one another of those "I hate my HD2/The worst phone I ever had, etc. threads. It is just getting boring. I does not contribute anything, so I would like to ask the mods to have a close look to these kind of threads and judge/act on them them as demmed necessary.
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Disagree. He has the right to say what he wants. Besides he is asking for help, not whinging.
The whole thread was constructive before you jumped in. Please don't act in such a way as to get this thread closed. The OP has the right to say what he is saying whether you agree with him or not.
That's democracy and is what free speech is all about.
WB
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Disagree. He has the right to say what he wants. Besides he is asking for help, not whinging.
The whole thread was constructive before you jumped in. Please don't act in such a way as to get this thread closed. The OP has the right to say what he is saying whether you agree with him or not.
That's democracy and is what free speech is all about.
WB
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In fairness mate, you should have just not commented if you felt like that. You can't promote the free speech of the OP whilst telling someone not to post what they think. It's gone already, and not many people took any notice. It's no biggie, so don't make it one
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I just re-read that post and want to make it clear that I wasn't trying to tell you what to do. I just want to keep the forums as friendly as possible, so offered an opinion.
@onkeldunkel
Tap the notifications bar to bring up the notifications screen, then tap the network icon to open the comm manager. There, make sure 'Microsoft Direct Push' is activated.
If yes, then go to Start --> Connectivity --> ActiveSync (or wherever ActiveSync is in your Start Menu). There, tap on Menu --> Schedule.
This is where you can configure the Schedule for syncing with your Exchange server.
If this is set to 'as items arrive', then every change on your phone should immediately be synchronized with the server.
Let me know if it works.
@those people arguing above
I also hate all those 'I hate/sold my phone' threads, but this one here is not of that kind!
This one is not a troll thread for whining/complaining, it's a constructive thread asking for help, so please stop the fighting and don't destroy it.
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In fairness, he's getting (mostly) constructive responses, so if he gets answers to problems then isn't that what this whole forum is about?
I do actually agree that there are too many "slagging off" threads, but as long as something good comes from it then it's worthwhile. If someone reads it and fixes issues they have with their phone, then who cares about the people that simply agree and flog their phone. That's 1 less person whining on the forums! lol
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John, you're absolutely right. I have read this post to hastily and thus reacted that way. I apologize to the OP for that.
Sometimes my alarms sound doesn't go off. I've checked all the settings, the sound is turned up, the profile is normal. The only way I can fix it, is to reset my phone. Then it works for a while.
It's happen to me a few times where I've woken up pass the time I've suppose to wake up. This morning I work up 2 hours late! . Lucky I didn't miss an important exam or assignment deadline.
I'm using the latest 3VOLUTION SERIES Rom for maple.
Anyone have any suggestions to fix it?
I'm having the same problem now. I've searched around, and can't seem to find a solution. Some suggest it's an installed app, but i can't pinpoint it.
Any thoughts?
(I have the Snap/Maple, with default rom, branded to Mobilicity in Canada).
Alternatively, are there any decent alarm apps out there that don't weight down the phone? I can't seem to figure out how to get more than 2 alarms on the phone.
Thanks for any help.
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I'm having the same problem now. I've searched around, and can't seem to find a solution. Some suggest it's an installed app, but i can't pinpoint it.
Any thoughts?
(I have the Snap/Maple, with default rom, branded to Mobilicity in Canada).
Alternatively, are there any decent alarm apps out there that don't weight down the phone? I can't seem to figure out how to get more than 2 alarms on the phone.
Thanks for any help.
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you should use a SmartTweaker.2008.v2.0 to fix it and you can get it through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664195
It may not have anything to do with rebooting. Your alarm might have failed due to receiving a notification at the same time:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-Dash-3G/T-Mobile-Dash-3G-FAQ/m-p/125328
Hakim Rahman said:
you should use a SmartTweaker.2008.v2.0 to fix it and you can get it through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664195
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Thanks for the suggestion, but there's little point in paying for that app when almost all of those tweaks can be done for free by other apps or direct registry editing. Also, I don't see anything on there that addresses the silent alarm problem.
Bones Justice said:
It may not have anything to do with rebooting. Your alarm might have failed due to receiving a notification at the same time:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-Dash-3G/T-Mobile-Dash-3G-FAQ/m-p/125328
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Thanks for the info. This is both sad and alarming (sorry, had to throw in the pun). I guess we better hope we don't get an email/text around the time we're expecting to wake up!
FYI, I have installed Alarm Master (http://www.connectivetools.com/alarmmaster.html). Looks simple, but has a fair bit of features. Incidentally, the regular alarm regained it's voicebox and started working properly right after I installed this. Maybe a coincidence. I don't think message updates were causing the alarm to be silenced, but I can't be sure. For now, I'll keep using Alarm Master, since it has more option, and I don't want to risk Windows' alarm not going off in the morning.
Still haven't figured out how to get more than 2 alarms, though.
Alarms versus notifications
I have only had my alarm fail due to an incoming notification once, at least as far as I know. But yeah, I laughed out loud (out of frustration) when I read T-Mobile's note about "expected behavior". It's like they are saying, okay, we know that your alarm could fail but that's what it's supposed to do! I liked your pun, by the way, and appreciate the fact that I'm not the only one that finds T-Mobile's answer both sad and funny!
Anyways, I think unless you are getting notifications every minute of the day, it's probably a remote chance that both will happen exactly at the same time. You can also take the added precaution of having your notifications audible, I suppose, so that if one cancels your alarm at least you'll hear an alert for the new notification.
As for the two alarm problem you mentioned, what about using the calendar as an extra alarm? You'd have the two default alarms plus you could set calendar events to alarm whenever you wanted extra ones. In fact, I rarely use the two default alarms as I have all of my appointments set to alarm through the calendar. I have my work schedule and stuff like that set as reoccuring events synced with Outlook.
I hope that helps! I'm still really enjoying my Dash 3G despite a few minor annoyances. All phones have 'em, I think the trick is just learning how to avoid 'em.
Good point. I forgot about the calendar since I don't really use it. Since i upgraded to Win 7, I've had touble syncing my windows phones and kinda gave up on it. I recently managed to get my phone to sync, but I don't use outlook, so it's a bit of a hastle to get everything into the calendar.
I originally got my Dash as a temporary replacement, but have found it to be surprisingly capable. After customizing the home panels, adding a GPS (Tomtom), and a few apps and games, (and learnind to avoid the annoyances), I'm pleasantly suprised with what I can do with this phone.
I'm still using Windows XP so I haven't had any trouble syncing. But you should be able to set calendar events on the phone itself fairly easily. You could set an alarm for every minute of the day if you wanted just by making calendar events. I do prefer setting appointments in Outlook because you can get really creative with reoccuring events that happen at weird intervals. But when I'm on the go and need to set a reminder for an appointment, I just make one on the phone.
I, too, think this is a great phone. I use it for business all the time, especially e-mail, Word, Excel, and Adobe Reader. I also really like having the Notepad because I can use it combined with Word at the same time. I use a bluetooth keyboard with it so that I can touch-type but I like the built-in keyboard, too. I also really like the Task Manager, it's so much better for switching and managing programs than when I was using a Blackberry.
My only disappoint with this phone is that there isn't a flash with the camera but it's not usually an issue. Otherwise, it's easily the best phone that I've ever had.