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coming from a palm pro-....this new phone is my dream device.
but first of all this has been a total headache for me. i purchased the phone on june 4th on the sprint website. i received the phone couple days later. i noticed the back light was shining under the "home" screen and decided i would get a replacement one. i did the 100 dollar MIR thing(which is still being processed) so i had to go trough orders support and they said i had to take the phone to a sprint corporate location so they can verify that it was defective and make a note on my account. they noted the fact that it was a cosmetic issue and a replacement would be granted. when i called orders support so that the exchange process can be made they gave me a curve ball. they said that for them to ship out a new phone they would have to charge me another 299 which i would get back once i send out the defective one and they receive the defective one. if i do not send the old one or they do not receive it i would be charged 200. the worst part is that since my MIR is still being processed it would be denied and and i would loose the first 100 from the MIR she did say that the "new" device would come with a new updated MIR so that i could get the second MIR from the 299 i would have to pay upfront for the replacement(which is supposedly going to be credited).....i think this is too troublesome for me as much as i want to keep this phone. i want to return it. but i want to keep it if i can live with the backlight shining trough. she noted that i would call back within my 30 day for an exchange.(indecisive if i will)
have any of you guys who purchased the phone trough sprint dot com have to go trough this? or is this something new. they also told me i could walk into a corporate location and ask for a replacement if they have it in stock-and could possibly and most likely be a refurbished one. (i might go this route)
sorry for the super long post...but any feed back would be appreciated.
Personally that seems like complete BS on Sprint's part. I've never had to put a "deposit" down on a replacement. They should send you a replacement and then you have something like 10 days to return the other one or they charge your account.
If this really is how "orders support" works then I would recommend that you either wait until the MIR has processed and then do the switch, or walk into a local Sprint store and play dumb and see it they will order the replacement for you.
It really depends on how much credit you have with them.
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thanks for the reply ramiss,
i dont think the playing dumb part will work. i dont look at part. also im sure when they pull up my account they will see all the notes posted up on their screen.
as much as i want to wait on that mail in rebate to process.....the rep said it will most likely process past the 30 day limit and i will not be able to claim a-replacement.(what i dont understand is how they can process a claim by charging me ahead of receiving the phone if its not even instock) i would have to play the waiting game untill they get a shipment wich she said would be in 2weeks (past the 30 day)
which to that she replied with-
"but sir because your processing your claim now, you can be sure that you will receive your replacement and then your 299 will be returned to you as soon as you send back the defective device"
then i gave her my rebuttal of " so you want me to send you out the defective device before i even receive my "on back order" device?" -then she stayed quiet and i changed the conversation letting her get herself back into the "lets play a game of who can sell more BS to who"
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It really depends on how much credit you have with them.
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i dont owe them anything if that your reffering too. actually i have a credit of 60 dollars that they still owe me(they will use it for my first months bill cycle under this new plan) that credit is for paying the ten dollar premium web access when i had my prior device and never logging on to the web for 6 months
I am pretty sure the 30 Day limit is only for returning the phone or swapping it for a different phone. The manufacturers warranty on every electronic device in the US is 1 year and Sprint should honor replacing defective units way past 30 days.
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I am pretty sure the 30 Day limit is only for returning the phone or swapping it for a different phone. The manufacturers warranty on every electronic device in the US is 1 year and Sprint should honor replacing defective units way past 30 days.
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im way ahead of you. thanks for pointing that out. because i didnt tell the reps that even if i do have TEP im not going to claim the defect under my insurance....id definatly claim under the one year manufacturers warranty.
hey ramiss, lets say i decide to keep the phone as is, and in lets say 6 to 8 months down the road my screen begins to separate from the base. would u say i could claim it under the manufacturers warranty-but is there a deductible for claiming that instead of TEP?
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If you are a brand new customer then this may be an understandable policy, but I still don't see how Sprint couldn't send the unit to a store and have you swap them without worrying about who has too many phones at one time.
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lets say i decide to keep the phone as is, and in lets say 6 to 8 months down the road my screen begins to separate from the base. would u say i could claim it under the manufacturers warranty-but is there a deductible for claiming that instead of TEP?
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There is always grey area as to what caused the issue but if it is a known manufacturing flaw, like the screen separation issue, then it is covered under the manufacterers warranty and you do not need, and should not use, your TEP.
Edit: There is no deductible for manufacturers warranty.
I should point out that my information comes from my experiences with Verizon. I have been a customer of Sprint for only 9 months now but their policies should not be different.
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There is always grey area as to what caused the issue but if it is a known manufacturing flaw, like the screen separation issue, then it is covered under the manufacterers warranty and you do not need, and should not use, your TEP.
Edit: There is no deductible for manufacturers warranty.
I should point out that my information comes from my experiences with Verizon. I have been a customer of Sprint for only 9 months now but their policies should not be different.
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ya im pretty sure your right though. im with sprint for 4years and have their premier plans "sero" and also have discounts added to my account and credits from years ago. and i still take advantage of any possible way i can. as i said before after finding out that on sprint dot com they advertised the same plan i had for ten dollars less, i called them and they credited my account with 6 months credit. but after i got the evo the price went back up to what i was originally paying with the extra ten dollars a month fee. which in reality didnt matter to me since i was already paying that and got credited some months back and i browse the internet like an addict on the device.
back to topic-i plan to walk into the corporate store and see if they can swap my phone there. "with the possibility of it being a refurb being above 80 percent" or just wait till the MIR is accepted and sent out to me. then wait half a year and claim under manufactures warranty. (this sounds like the most logical way to do this) but im still considering calling member services and asking them if they could ship out the replacement to a store that i could pick up from.
i have had an evo since the day it came out, and about a month and a half ago i dropped it on the ground. the screen shattered, and i didn't have insurance. at the time the sprint guy said it wasn't a big deal, because the cost for repair was about the same either way. i paid about $130 and it was fixed half an hour later.
lately, about a month and a half later, i noticed some weird issues with the touchscreen. it was jumping around as if i had my finger on it when i wasn't touching it. i formatted the sdcard, did a factory reset, wiped everything, and loaded a stock rooted rom on it. it was fine for a couple hours, then i noticed the issues again. random scrolling, opening apps when i wasnt touching the screen, etc. i noticed the Y and G keys are now not working. i downloaded a screen test app that records where you have touched the screen with a white line. while sliding my finger up and down all across the screen, there is a noticeable band running vertically across the general area of the Y and G keys that does not record any touch activity even if i slide my finger there.
i took the phone to a sprint store and showed them. they asked if i had insurance and i said no. they said "well you could get insurance and then have it repaired for $35." i asked "why should i have to pay to have something repaired that i didn't break? the replacement screen is obviously defective." the guy said "well you should have insurance." and i again said "why do i need insurance for something that went bad on its own?" and he said "you had the repair done over 30 days ago so you'll have to pay to have it repaired again."
i have no idea why i should have to pay for repairs for a phone, regardless if i have insurance or not, when i didn't do anything to damage the phone. im going to go to the actual repair store here in chicago, but i doubt theyll say anything different. if they can't repair it for free, im seriously considering switching to a different phone company. this ridiculous service/repair policy along with the horrible battery life (the guy actually asked how my battery life was and tried to sell me an extended battery, and also tried to sell me a case... neither of which i care about), ridiculous $10/month fee, and lack of built-in tethering makes me want to switch back to tmobile which was a great company when i had the G1.
does anyone have any tips they can give me to get this fixed for free? or is that a hopeless idea?
thanks.
When you had the repair done, I'm sure there was a warranty period on the repair itself. Do you have any documentation showing what that timeframe is? It seems to me that if the screen repair warranty is up, you may be stuck paying for the new repair. Have you tried calling sprint with *2 and explaining the situation? I went through a similar situation with the screen developing a large white spot. It took many calls to *2 until somebody was willing to work with me. Try that. If you are not getting the answers you want, hang up and call right back. My persistence worked out eventually, but like I said, it was a time-consuming ordeal. Good luck.
i understand that there was a warranty associated with the last repair, but it still doesn't make any sense to me that a problem i am having with the screen has nothing to do with anything i did. the shattered screen is not the problem (the screen did not get shattered again, which was what the original repair was for). the touchscreen is simply not working properly. am i supposed to get insurance, pay for that each month, and then pay $35 now and again every 45 days if the problem continues? doesn't make much sense to me, but that seems to be how sprint operates. i will take your advice and call *2 after i get turned away at the actual repair facility that i'm on my way to now. thanks for your advice.
Go to another store and show them the problem but do not mention anything about the screen being replaced before, unless they noted your account. Hopefully they could replace it/fix it under warranty
Welcome to Sprint's "screw the customer" routine. Ive dealt with similar issues in the past.
Like others have said, the repair they did should have a warranty to it, just like if you go to get your car fixed, it usually has a 90 day warranty on the fix itself. Go back to where they fixed it, and talk to the manager. Explain your situation, that the repair obviously was faulty.
If that doesnt work, call *2, and ask to speak to account services. Explain your situation to them, how you are not at fault here, and shouldnt be treated this way as a valued customer. Tell them you will cancel your service if they dont help you resolve this issue. When you tell them that, they will bend over backwards to keep you, and hopefully send you a repacement phone.
I would say your best bet is calling *2 several times and trying to get a person who will help. Usually if you bounce around enough you may get lucky. Although, I have noticed that over the last 6 months they have really tightened down and become less willing to make exceptions. But these situations is what the insurance is for. If your phone was defective in the first 30 days, Sprint would repair it or replace it for free regardless of insurance, after that it's on the customer if you don't have insurance, regardless of the issue. If you had insurance right now you could get it replaced free with no deducible. I had a similar problem with my original EVO that I had since launch day last month. The touchscreen would just start clicking in the middle of the screen all on it's down. I have the insurance, so they replaced it with no questions asked. Your situation is sort of like a laptop, they only come with a certain warranty, and then if it breaks after that it's on you to fix it unless you have extra insurance or an extended warranty regardless of why it malfunctioned. I'm not a big fan of extra insurance either, but on a phone it is really worth it. Also, I am pretty sure ALL phone companies have the same sort of policy when it comes to fixing phones, so I doubt going to a different carrier would help you any. If your phone breaks without insurance through any provider after 30 days its coming out of your wallet. I would say, you might as well get the insurance and pay the $35 to get it fixed. That sounds like a good deal to me, because last night I broke the glass on my second evo, and with insurance the deductible to replace the phone is $100... so $35 sounds like a deal to me. If you don't want to do that, the only other option I see is going on eBay and buying a new screen/digitizer for $49 and putting it in yourself.
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I would say your best bet is calling *2 several times and trying to get a person who will help. Usually if you bounce around enough you may get lucky. Although, I have noticed that over the last 6 months they have really tightened down and become less willing to make exceptions. But these situations is what the insurance is for. If your phone was defective in the first 30 days, Sprint would repair it or replace it for free regardless of insurance, after that it's on the customer if you don't have insurance, regardless of the issue. If you had insurance right now you could get it replaced free with no deducible. I had a similar problem with my original EVO that I had since launch day last month. The touchscreen would just start clicking in the middle of the screen all on it's down. I have the insurance, so they replaced it with no questions asked. Your situation is sort of like a laptop, they only come with a certain warranty, and then if it breaks after that it's on you to fix it unless you have extra insurance or an extended warranty regardless of why it malfunctioned. I'm not a big fan of extra insurance either, but on a phone it is really worth it. Also, I am pretty sure ALL phone companies have the same sort of policy when it comes to fixing phones, so I doubt going to a different carrier would help you any. If your phone breaks without insurance through any provider after 30 days its coming out of your wallet. I would say, you might as well get the insurance and pay the $35 to get it fixed. That sounds like a good deal to me, because last night I broke the glass on my second evo, and with insurance the deductible to replace the phone is $100... so $35 sounds like a deal to me. If you don't want to do that, the only other option I see is going on eBay and buying a new screen/digitizer for $49 and putting it in yourself.
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Under the new Sprint policy revealed here on XDA, isn't a non-TEP screen replacement, or anything else, $35 per job?
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I went to a Sprint repair store (can't go to the original one because I moved across the country). They took the phone to the back room and came out five minutes later. The guy said "the tech said to get that touch screen test app off your phone because it isn't a good representation of what's wrong" ... I said "okay, well that section of the screen is clearly not accepting touch input" and he said to call a 1800 number to do a factory reset (?!) so I left and called that number and it was disconnected. haha.
I called *2, went through a bunch of menus, and it told me to call some 1800 number from a different phone. I got some guy who walked me through a factory reset which of course did not work. He said he would connect me to tech support, who I thought I was already talking to. Told her the problem and that the reset didn't work. She said it was a hardware problem and I said yes, and said I know it isn't her fault but that I didn't think it was fair for me to pay for a defective screen. She said she was making some notes in my account and was going to transfer me to an escalation manager. That person listened to my complaint again which I tried to word in a polite way. I didn't threaten to cancel my account but was ready to say something. I told her I would like to have a replacement phone since this one seems to have issues. She asked if it had been replaced before, I said no. She asked for my mailing address and email and put me on hold for about five to ten minutes. During that time, I got an email outlining my exchange order.
The exchange order notes that I could have to pay $75 to $125 for the replacement as well as some other fees, but she never mentioned anything about me paying at all so I'm prepared to call up and complain again if they try to charge me. I mean, I realize that's a policy but they never mentioned fees on the phone. I mean, i might as well have paid the $35 if I didn't mind fees.
Another thing to note is that when the guy at the store came out of the back room he had the battery cover off my phone and said the sensor showed it had gotten wet. I have never gotten it wet, and he said it was my fault if I kept it in my pocket. I will call and complain again if they charge me for returning a wet phone, because its not my fault if its such a poor design that minor sweat or pocket humidity can make it malfunction! I don't mean to nitpick but come on HTC...
one thing i HATE about calling any tech company getting shifted around to this person then to this person etc etc
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i have had an evo since the day it came out, and about a month and a half ago i dropped it on the ground. the screen shattered, and i didn't have insurance. at the time the sprint guy said it wasn't a big deal, because the cost for repair was about the same either way. i paid about $130 and it was fixed half an hour later.
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Did you ask them what kind of warranty they provided with the repair?
No, I didn't (and still don't) think it mattered. If I break something, like I did, I expect to pay for it or have insurance cover it. Since I didn't have insurance, I was okay with paying. While I don't expect a repair to last forever, I think it is reasonable to expect the phone be repaired to like-new condition or with a new screen. Then, if I use the phone normally, with or without insurance, I expect the phone to function normally for at least the length of the contract.
Expectations and reality are two different things. Why don't you call the store and ask them how long they warranty their repairs and go from there.
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I don't know what this guy is talking about! First with how much this phone cost why wouldn't you have insurance on it! It only equals 85 bucks for the year way less then the price of a new or used phone even with the 100 you have to pay to get a replacement your still making out good! I jumped in the pool with my phone and even though it still worked I got a replacement for a 100 no hassles! And my screen went hay wire on the replacement and when they couldn't repair it I got another one for free! I dropped my phone and damage the front facing camera took it to the Sprint store and got it fixed for free! So stop being cheap and get insurance
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I am already getting a replacement phone for free, without insurance, if you read the entire thread.
As far as "being cheap" and "just getting insurance" you are citing two incidents where you caused damage to your phone. I agree that you or I should be expected to have insurance to cover damage to our phones that we cause. I am talking about a screen defect (I didn't drop my phone a second time and crack the screen a second time - the screen stopped accepting touch input in a huge area). people should expect more from electronics manufacturers and the phone companies that essentially work with them by accepting and promoting new phones. Electronics used to last, even when they had moving parts. Now we have a generation of people who are fine with devices that frequently go bad and having insurance to cover it. It seems to me Sprint and HTC are the cheap ones, pumping out thousands of the next "iphone killer" with poor batteries, screens, usb ports, etc.
The "issue" you are having with Sprint is that they no longer cover in warranty repairs at no cost. The phone comes with a 1yr warranty thru HTC. If you would like free in warranty repairs call HTC. Good luck with that one by the way. Normally you are responsible for shipping the device to the manufacture and you would be obviously without your phone for the duration of the repair. The manufacture usually inspects the phone much more closely as well. When I worked at another carrier we used to receive photos of corrosion internally of equipment that they determined was not repairable. Even though the external indicators showed no such damage.
If you have TEP $7/month you would receive replacement equipment for in warranty repairs if it can not be repaired by an in store technician. TEP covers all manufacture warranty and non-warranty items in house. If it is board level damage, water damage, lost stolen, or broken beyond repair it will be replaced by asurion for the $100 deductible.
Any warrantied item without insurance will cost $35 for sprint provided repairs. Exception being software updates. If the phone is out of warranty all repairs, software updates, etc will cost $35.
The incident when my phone went on the fritz and was doing the same screen things yours was I got a replacement free of charge!
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My "issue" is also that sprint was providing in warranty repairs for one year when I bought this phone. Now they're trying to change that and then saying "oh just get insurance because its a good idea and would cover this." No. I'm getting a free replacement which is what I deserve. There is another thread that explains this change in policy.
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The "issue" you are having with Sprint is that they no longer cover in warranty repairs at no cost. The phone comes with a 1yr warranty thru HTC. If you would like free in warranty repairs call HTC. Good luck with that one by the way. Normally you are responsible for shipping the device to the manufacture and you would be obviously without your phone for the duration of the repair. The manufacture usually inspects the phone much more closely as well. When I worked at another carrier we used to receive photos of corrosion internally of equipment that they determined was not repairable. Even though the external indicators showed no such damage.
If you have TEP $7/month you would receive replacement equipment for in warranty repairs if it can not be repaired by an in store technician. TEP covers all manufacture warranty and non-warranty items in house. If it is board level damage, water damage, lost stolen, or broken beyond repair it will be replaced by asurion for the $100 deductible.
Any warrantied item without insurance will cost $35 for sprint provided repairs. Exception being software updates. If the phone is out of warranty all repairs, software updates, etc will cost $35.
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That's a good explanation of what changed. It actually used to be like this way back in the day wth Nextel before the merger - you could get a warranty replacement for free, or you could pay $35 for the convenience of walking into the store and picking it up the same day. I'm not sure when it changed to free warranty repairs but you have to pay more for out of warranty repairs (first it was $35 or $55, depending on what's wrong, then later $99 for dumbphones and $119 for smartphones), but now it's essentially back to how it was to begin with.
Overall, It's probably a better value, and you're probably still better off without insurance. Think about it this way - suppose you keep a phone for 2 years, and it breaks once a year - once under warranty and once out of warranty. With the new plan, that's a total cost of $70 ($35 + $35). With the old plan, the first repair would be covered and the second wouldn't. so that'd be $119. Now obviously, that's a hypothetical, you probably don't need to get it repaired that often. but personally, I find that I generally don't need any repairs until I've owned it for a year or so anyway. So it's better for my purposes, although others might disagree.
Regarding TEP - in the long run you're not saving money unless your phone is lost or stolen, and even then you're out $100 for the deductible. Suppose you're phone is stolen once in the same hypothetical 2 yr period (since after 2 yrs you could get a discounted upgrade): You'll save $449.99 on a new phone at MSRP, but you will have paid $268 in premiums and the deductible. If your phone isn't stolen / water damaged / completely destroyed, you're out $168. I don't know about you, but in the last 11 yrs that I've owned cell phones, I've never had that happen - I've needed repairs, but have never been in a situation when I'd need to place an insurance claim. And the $35 you'll save on a repair with tep is only 5 months' premium - surely nobody needs a repair every 5 months!
The bottom line is that all insurance is a losing proposition in the long run - if it weren't likely that you'd pay more in premiums than you get in claims, insurance companies wouldn't make any money. Personally, i only insure those things that I absolutely can't afford to replace out of pocket - my car, house, health life, etc.
Anyhow, sorry to go on like that, but it's just a topic that's been bouncing around in my head recently.
(and a bit of fair disclosure, I'm a Sprint Nextel employee, but what I write here is purely my personal opinion)
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The incident when my phone went on the fritz and was doing the same screen things yours was I got a replacement free of charge!
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Good deal
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Good luck, I have to wonder though if the fight, frustration and possible disappointment is really worth it.
I've been having issues with my charging port for some time now. I've had intermittent issues where the port would not charge and then today, it finally broke off apparently. The Sprint corporate store said they could not fix it and to call Asurion. I'm sure I have the same issue a lot of Evo users have had in that I'm sure they are going to want to charge me the $100 deductible.
How can they call this physical damage to the phone? Plugging it in is a normal activity and there are plenty of documented cases of the charge port coming loose or breaking.
All I want is for Sprint to replace my Evo so I can be on my way. I'm having nothing but bad luck in my endeavor. Has anybody successfully gotten Sprint to replace their phone without going through Asurion? What did you do or say?
I have the same issue. Your phone is probably covered under manufacturer warranty still. Contact HTC. Takes two weeks.
I haven't sent mine in yet. I purchased a battery charger and spare batteries until I figure out how to live with my phone.
Good luck!
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I've been having issues with my charging port for some time now. I've had intermittent issues where the port would not charge and then today, it finally broke off apparently. The Sprint corporate store said they could not fix it and to call Asurion. I'm sure I have the same issue a lot of Evo users have had in that I'm sure they are going to want to charge me the $100 deductible.
How can they call this physical damage to the phone? Plugging it in is a normal activity and there are plenty of documented cases of the charge port coming loose or breaking.
All I want is for Sprint to replace my Evo so I can be on my way. I'm having nothing but bad luck in my endeavor. Has anybody successfully gotten Sprint to replace their phone without going through Asurion? What did you do or say?
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I've heard of Sprint doing that, claiming it's 'physical damage' and and that they refuse to fix it. Asurion, if you have it, is actually quick, you'll have your phone in a day or two. However, you get dinged with the $100 deductible. If you are unsuccessful at getting Sprint to replace it, I gaurantee you that you could find an electronics repair place and have them re-solder the charging port. Supposedly, for someone who knows how to do that type of thing, it's a simple and quick task to do. I'm sure it would be far less than 100 bucks to have it re-soldered. Also, I was reading a thread about this very topic, where someone who did have a lot of electronics experience, said that the solder joints on the charging port are terrible, and a poor overall design to boot.
I wonder... being that any sort of plugging in of a cable puts stress on that charging port, do you suppose that a charging cradle is better or worse for the phone? I'd guess better.....?
FYI- I had the same exact issue and the Sprint Corporate store replaced it for me no questions asked. I wasn't even able to unroot because the battery died.
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Mine broke also and they gave me a new one. But it couldve been that it was during my first month.
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If you don't have tep sprint doesn't care what happens to your phone...they won't replace it.
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FYI- I had the same exact issue and the Sprint Corporate store replaced it for me no questions asked. I wasn't even able to unroot because the battery died.
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Same deal for me.my charger port broke while rooted.I just took it to a repair store not the corporate one, they looked at it then pulled up my account information then activated an evo they had behind the counter and I walked out, that easy! Sorry your having problems, if I was you I'd try a different store. I used the store in Tavares, Florida so you can look them up to see exactly what type of store they are. Good luck to ya!
easy answer: its physical damage, if something is broken then it is not covered by warranty. doesnt matter how it happened, if its broke you did it. use asurion.
real answer: its a grey area. sometimes these ports do break off, and while yes technically it is not covered by warranty or esrp, generally if the phone shows no other signs of physical damage a tech will replace the phone for you. keep in mind that the letter of the law states it is not covered though, so if that store choses not to replace it they are properly doing their job. the techs and stores have repair quotas, and exchanging those phones does cost sprint a lot of money.
if the port is just lose it would have been fine, but its its completely off the board its considered physical damage because it could have been from normal wear and tear or you could have used a pair of pliers and pulled it out. you can try htc but its gonna take for ever and you still have to pay for the parts.
sprint fixed mine in jan...no 35.00 charge (i dont have insurance) it broke again this past week. The ordered a replacement phone. Will be here monday...no 35.00 charge.
Guess it just depends
I took mine in the day after it started acting up - not rooted. I just took it to the Sprint store closest to me. I have insurance & was past my 30 days. I told the guy, he didn't even ask questions about it. He filed it through Asurion and told me to come back the next day after 2:00. It didn't cost anything. But then again... he was flirting with me, so that could have something to do with it.
I'd just try another store, I think it depends on who you get behind the counter with stuff like this. And if you know any pretty girls that will go for you - try that. I've had 3 EVOs and didn't pay for any of my replacements.
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easy answer: its physical damage, if something is broken then it is not covered by warranty. doesnt matter how it happened, if its broke you did it. use asurion.
real answer: its a grey area. sometimes these ports do break off, and while yes technically it is not covered by warranty or esrp, generally if the phone shows no other signs of physical damage a tech will replace the phone for you. keep in mind that the letter of the law states it is not covered though, so if that store choses not to replace it they are properly doing their job. the techs and stores have repair quotas, and exchanging those phones does cost sprint a lot of money.
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Sorry, but I have to call BS on most of this (not what you are saying, but rather Sprint's policy)
These devices have a 1yr manufacturers warranty. Sprint should take the hardware for the customer and swap it with HTC....so it shouldn't be costing Sprint a dime (except for labor, which is payed for already).
And frankly if Sprint doesn't want to be the middleman for manufacturer swaps then they need to stop putting their name on the hardware.
Its the same issue I have with the different Corporate vs Franchise Sprint stores...seriously, if you put a sign saying "Sprint" on your store, then you should be prepared to represent them 100% by offering the same services. Sometimes its like showing up to a McDonalds and being told that only the real locations have fries.
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I've had my Evo since launch day and my charge port was having the same issues.
Called HTC about the warranty and they said it would not be covered.
Took it to Sprint and they swapped it out for the $35 fee since the device was still under the manufacturer's warranty period. I think some stores know this is a recurring issue with this phone and are not putting up much of a fuss over replacing them.
My advice, keep trying different stores until you find one that does it.
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Sorry, but I have to call BS on most of this (not what you are saying, but rather Sprint's policy)
These devices have a 1yr manufacturers warranty. Sprint should take the hardware for the customer and swap it with HTC....so it shouldn't be costing Sprint a dime (except for labor, which is payed for already).
And frankly if Sprint doesn't want to be the middleman for manufacturer swaps then they need to stop putting their name on the hardware.
Its the same issue I have with the different Corporate vs Franchise Sprint stores...seriously, if you put a sign saying "Sprint" on your store, then you should be prepared to represent them 100% by offering the same services. Sometimes its like showing up to a McDonalds and being told that only the real locations have fries.
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Exactly!
DEMAND a repair or exchange.
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Call customer service and ask for Account Services. Tell them your situation, and how this IS a manufacturer defect. Tell them you will cancel your account if they dont do anything about it. They will either send you one, or put a note on your account for the store to replace it.
IF by chance that doesnt work, email [email protected]. That's the Executive Offices, the same people you would talk to if you were to file a complaint with the BBB, only this takes a day to respond, not weeks like the BBB.
fix it yourself
i had this same problem. i took it in a week earlier when the port was just wiggly and the store said they couldnt do anything.
a week later the phone wouldnt charge at all. i take the phone and and the tech takes it
he took the port out of the phone and taped it to the reciept and said that the phone was damaged beyond repair.
i ended up calling sprint form the parking lot and found a sprint person who would setup an invoice to send me a new phone and id mail back the broken one. however the tech at the store refused to take the "damaged beyond repiar" tag off my phone.
after 2 hours on the phone and at the store it ended up getting replaced.
i was massively pissed.
tl;dr: try a different store.
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Call customer service and ask for Account Services. Tell them your situation, and how this IS a manufacturer defect. Tell them you will cancel your account if they dont do anything about it. They will either send you one, or put a note on your account for the store to replace it.
IF by chance that doesnt work, email [email protected]. That's the Executive Offices, the same people you would talk to if you were to file a complaint with the BBB, only this takes a day to respond, not weeks like the BBB.
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What a bad mentality to have... Account services will do everything in their power to help resolve your issue, however they have no ability whatsoever to send a replacement device, they will need to contact a store or tech support to have your device fixed/exchanged. If they deem the device unrepairable, you will have to use insurance or go through the manu warranty.
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What a bad mentality to have...
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Yes I agree, but sometimes it is unfortunately a last resort that works. :/ But to put this all to rest just try another store and keep trying. Its worked for me and countless others. Some people just dont give two $h!ts about anyone or there problems and wont go above and beyond to help.
I filed a claim 6 days ago and they have yet to ship my device. I am getting really frustrated with their service and will never get insurance through them again. This is the 6th time I have recieved the below email:
Dear Valued Customer
We understand how important your phone is to you and our goal is to get you reconnected as soon as possible. Unfortunately, due to supply constraints, we will not be able to ship your replacement HTC EVO today.
We are committed to working together with Sprint and other suppliers to procure these devices quickly, and will keep you updated daily on the status of your order.
Rest assured that as soon as these devices are available to Asurion, we will immediately fulfill your order. You can expect an email from us each day with information on your order until it ships; or you can always get the most up-to-date status at anytime by going to www.phoneclaim.com/sprint and tracking your claim online.
We apologize for the delay.
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not their fault. htc evo's are sold out atm in most stores.
last time i checked, they were sold out online as well.
How can you hate a company for not having any stock? It really isn't their fault.
Now the real problem is they are charing for something they cannot provide. If anything, ask them to reimburse a month of insurance.
Sounds a little like fraud to me.
Agreed! I'm in the same boat. The crappy part is..what are we gonna do? They have what we need and complaining to Sprint won't really do much. I do know that reverting back to a windows mobile device is a pain in the @$$!
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not their fault. htc evo's are sold out atm in most stores.
last time i checked, they were sold out online as well.
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Actually it is their fault. I pay for the insurance with the understanding that I would get a device the next day and they are not meeting their end of the deal. That is most certianly their fault.
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Actually it is their fault. I pay for the insurance with the understanding that I would get a device the next day and they are not meeting their end of the deal. That is most certianly their fault.
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I agree with this, they could at least offer a loaner or some other way of compensation,not just be "your SOL till we get more EVO's"
I bet they'll still want that $100 deductible too.
Bielinsk said:
How can you hate a company for not having any stock? It really isn't their fault.
Now the real problem is they are charing for something they cannot provide. If anything, ask them to reimburse a month of insurance.
Sounds a little like fraud to me.
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I work for a production company so I don't want to hear about not having something in stock. If we don't have something in stock you know what happens? We lose customers and money. In our business that is unacceptable and almost NEVER happens. On the RARE occasion that is does happen the customer gets the product for FREE including shipping.
We value our customers and guarantees that we offer. Of course we also keep adequate inventory based on history and forecasts etc. Needless to say my insurance money will not be going to asurion in the future that is for sure.
I'm getting this message:
Thank you for checking the status of your claim. We know how important your device is to you.
We are doing all we can to obtain your device so that we can ship it to you as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, we still do not have your device in stock. It may take 7 to 10 business days from the time you completed your claim until the device is available. We will send you a tracking email as soon as it ships from our warehouse.
Please remember, for the most up-to-date information continue to check back here, on www.phoneclaim.com.
Note: The update displayed above is the most current data available. Our automated phone system and customer service representatives access the same information.
I miss my Evo. Good thing I have some old Sprint phones laying around and I at least have something to make calls/texts with.
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I'm getting this message:
7 to 10 business days
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Hey rugedraw...Yea I get the same thing when I check my claim online. What I posted above is what I get in my email everyday.
When I submitted my claim it said 5-7 days. It better not be 7 - 10 days now. Problem is there isn't anything we can do. I've called everyone and they all tell me to gfy.
agreed, not their fault. I've been quite impressed with them over the years. im sure if you want they will downgrade you and you can get a shift and i don't believe the agreement states you are guaranteed a replacement next day, even though that's how it usually goes.
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They told me 7-10 days off the bat when I called them last Thursday. I agree that they should do a better job of forecasting and keep more stock of the phones, and I also agree that there is nothing we can do but wait. I went to Orlando this weekend to take my kid to the Disney parks, and I missed my phone terribly on that road trip. It was torturous! lol
I've never had to file a claim in my life until I created a Family Plan. I recently had to file a claim for an HTC Evo Shift which was dropped in water by a person on my account during the first 30 days. I called insurance and it took them a week and a half to send a phone.
Reps try to sell you a dream in the store and say you get a phone shipped overnight no waiting whatsoever. I know it's far from the truth but I never imagined it would be that slow. The first claim on the HTC Shift replacement I had to fax an affidavit and my ID which I did promptly.
I think it's ridiculous and they already charge $2 more than AT&T does for the same service. It was a big deal because the user of that phone speaks Spanish and we constantly communicate back and forth since he needs rides sometimes. I hope I never have to go through it again. I'm keeping insurance on my lines for safe measure and hope they fix their way of doing business.
You guys are making me think I should just drop the insurance.
Between the $100 deductable, monthly fee and 10 day turn around it doesn't seem worth it and horror stories of refurbs.
I only ever keep a phone a year and HTC should cover defects for the first year.
I have never lost or dunked a phone. But I have dropped a few, but never bad enough to replace.
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I'm keeping insurance on my lines for safe measure and hope they fix their way of doing business.
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If you keep giving them your money they will have no reason to fix their way of doing business. I know I am going with someone else for my next phone purchase...that is for sure.
Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
mswlogo said:
You guys are making me think I should just drop the insurance.
Between the $100 deductable, monthly fee and 10 day turn around it doesn't seem worth it and horror stories of refurbs.
I only ever keep a phone a year and HTC should cover defects for the first year.
I have never lost or dunked a phone. But I have dropped a few, but never bad enough to replace.
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So, if you dropped your phone in a lake and had to get a replacement, you wouldn't mind paying the full retail price for a replacement instead of paying the deductible? This is why it is called "insurance". It covers what the manufacturer doesn't cover such as accidental breakage, lost or stolen phone, etc... I have it just for the piece of mind that if I do lose it or drop it in a river/lake, that I just pay the $100.00 and get a replacement instead of paying $500+ for a new one.
cruise350 said:
Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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This
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cruise350 said:
Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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I feel for the people over there...I really do. But it isn't my problem that Asurion doesn't have phones and I am not a happy customer. Besides we have a plant in Japan that is operational so it is not everywhere that is shut down. I might have a little patience if Asurion came out and actually said this is the problem...as of now I have had no explanation as to why they don't have my device. Just speculation from people like you.
Oh and it is easy to say to be more carefull with my phone. I babied that sucker and made one mistake and now I can't get my phone replaced by the company that I paid to replace it. Just hope you don't make that one little mistake. I will stop whining when I feel I have been made whole for what I have paid for with my hard earned money.
This is what really irritates me about customers. I understand that you bought a $500 device (in your mind, but you paid $200 for it). Yet at the same time, YOU damaged YOUR device, no matter if someone else did it or not.
When you filed the claim, you agreed to the terms. Yes, it says they will ship the new or comparable device to you overnight if supplies are available. You affixed your initials stating that you understand those terms, but decide to whine when it seemingly goes south.
Of course, I'd like to be able to fix every single customers phone and would love it if no one ever had to deal with Asurion again. It's more money in my pocket for the repair/exchange, plus it's a lot less hassle. At the same time, you get what you pay for. You pay the $7 a month for minimal inconvenience so that you won't have to pay full price for a new one.
In my case, the phone slid right out of the holster and onto the sidewalk. It wasn't even a "mistake" in the sense that I didn't drop it myself by being clumsy. Sometimes, **** happens. That's what we have insurance for. Not everyone has a back-up phone they can use like I did and a loaner is the LEAST they can do.
The whole Japan thing is just plain ridiculous. What does Japan's situation have to do with the refurbished phone they are going to send me? Are the phones for Asurion being sent to the eastern coast of Japan to be refurbished and then sent back to US for distribution? No.....they are getting broken phones from people like us, slapping a new screen/LCD on it, and sending it back to people like us. The parts to fix my phone are available on eBay from US sellers. The only people that would be affected by the Japan situation are people buying new phones; not people needing replacements.
I've seen a few threads pop up about Best Buy's rapid exchange - whether or not it exists is still a big question. I've seen threads that say they modified their policy back in April, but nothing definitive.
Does anybody know what Best Buy's current "Black Tie" policy is on broken phones? I.e. If I bring a busted Epic there, and I have Black Tie insurance, what do they do?
Yes, I've done two already. One for myself and one for my wife. It takes between 2-4 for the whole process.
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Yes, I've done two already. One for myself and one for my wife. It takes between 2-4 for the whole process.
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What do they actually give you? I've heard "new phone," "new phone minus battery and SD," etc.
My wife did it a few weeks ago before we cancelled black tie. It took about the same as twkniest mentioned. 3-4 days. And we received a refurb. They make you keep your battery and sd card. They only replace the unit, with back cover. Way better than the 1 month she had to wait last time she sent in for repair... I guess best buy finally listened to all the complaints.
Here in Va they just give you a new phone at the store if in stock.
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My wife did it a few weeks ago before we cancelled black tie. It took about the same as twkniest mentioned. 3-4 days. And we received a refurb. They make you keep your battery and sd card. They only replace the unit, with back cover. Way better than the 1 month she had to wait last time she sent in for repair... I guess best buy finally listened to all the complaints.
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I disagree, it took a while and I got annoyed, but I was happy to get my own phone back.
It must be hit or miss depending on the store you deal with. Pretty much one of the reasons we cancelled. That service is just unreliable.
Since I manage a Geek Squad, I'll tell you how it works. First, there are two options, 1) get your original phone repaired, 2) get your phone rapid exchanged.
We do not and cannot exchange the phone outright in store. Phones cost upwards of $600. Exchanging it in store would be like giving someone a laptop because they dropped it.
If you choose to get your phone repaired it goes to Jabril. Repairs can fluctuate between about 1.5 weeks to a little over 30 days. If the phone has been at Jabril over 30 days and still isn't repaired, we can request an exchange authorization (this actually happens automatically). You would then get credit for the value of the phone (not what you paid but the subsidy as well) so you can buy a new phone outright. This means no change in your contract terms and you can choose whatever phone you want including an upgrade if you want to pay the difference. Repairs also qualify towards "no lemon." If they cant get the repair correct after 3 times trying with repairing/replacing a part then it gets sent out, inspected, and then authorized for a junk out.
If you choose to get your phone rapid exchanged the phones are like new some of them seem to even be brand new. Sometimes they come back with all accessories but that is not the way it is designed. In general we will get the phone and back cover, nothing else. As soon as a rapid exchange tag is created, one gets cross shipped to us before we even send the phone out to he repair facility. this generally takes 1-3 business days. We have had instances of creating tags in the evening and receiving the rapid exchange phone the following morning. Rapid Exchanges on phones do not currently qualify for no lemon. In addition, as the phone ages, the chance increases that we will end up with a substitute sku for the rapid exchange. Substitute skus are generally upgrades to the new model, but sometimes are fairly different phones. For instance, for a brief period, the EVO Shift was appearing as a substitute for the EVO. It is likely that in about a year, the Epic 2 will be the substitute for the Epic because they will not have enough stock of the old epic/parts to repair them. In this way Rapid Exchanges also end up in upgrades as the phone ages and helps you retain more value by the time you are ready to get a new subsidized phone.
If you have any other questions let me know.
All phones are rapid exchange per SOP now. of its backordered the store may just exchange it for you but that depends on the managers...
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To avoid disappointment, never expect an exchange in the store as it violates SOP. Also, you don't technically get your choice of phone if your phone gets sent out for repair and gets approved for junkout. If they have your model in stock, that's what you get. Exceptions are made on a case by case basis. FINALLY, it's easier to attract flies with sugar than with vinegar...ie, don't be rude to the associate helping you or things will not go your way. Customer service does not mean customer servant. Just a friendly fyi to my xda homies. much love and respect to you guys.
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All phones DEFAULT to rapid exchange now. It is NOT required to rapid exchange phones if the client does not want to (IPhones I believe are the only lone exception to this although blackberrys may be as well). As I stated before, rapid exchanges on phones currently do not count towards no lemon.
Actually yes you do get to choose the phone you want, or any item for that matter, when it is to be exchanged. If your store isn't doing this, then you aren't following SOP. In fact this is why Best Buy changed the return system so that when you do a junkout/no lemon exchange it is returned in store credit. If that model is currently still in stock you get a store credit for the current unsubsidized price of that phone. You don't even have to get another phone, you could spend the money on a TV if you wanted. The value of the store credit, you don't have say over. It is for the comparable item, not to exceed the original purchace price (ie $199 contract price + $400 subsidy = $599 original purchase price). All stores will work this as an exchange though as it is unhelpful to have someone walk out the door with $600 store credit and no device to replace what they lost.
As for exchanging a phone outright, any store that does this is choosing to take a known loss of the unsubsidized cost of the phone when they do this (usually around $600). It's akin to "I feel bad about your situation, here have a new laptop on us." The store that does the exchange will take a P&L hit on the returned item as they will receive no credit for it. A lot of stores are bad at managing their Store Warranty reports as a lot of DCIS are incorrectly fixated on "No Fault Founds" as being the way to correct the metric. The biggest loss on store warranty in a whole is almost always bad return/exchanges. Many stores do not know how to manage this type of negative on their P&L and may not even be aware that it is occuring. Often times there is a thought that if something goes PRC that the store will get credit. This means they do not monitor the detail report showing all their rejected credits.
So basically if we wanted to upgrade early we could just "break" our phone and exchange it say for a Moment?lol
BBlunts456 said:
So basically if we wanted to upgrade early we could just "break" our phone and exchange it say for a Moment?lol
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You are limited to two screen replacements before the plan is considered fulfilled. If you send the phone in for repair and have it repaired three different times (not rapid exchange), then the next time you send it in for repair they cite the previous repairs, send it out where it is inspected to show the need for another hardware repair after which it gets approved for exchange under the no lemon policy.
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