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Select input method is really slow ?

Hi all
Hope you all had a great christmas
Okay, back to my question ... when you tap on the input method selection arrow at the bottom of your screen, does it take like forever ... okay, not forever, but more like 6-8 seconds ... for the popup menu to appear and let you select type of input method to use ?
Is there a way to speed this up ?

Takes forever here too. I did use Tweak2k2 to hide some SIPs I never use, plus I have Calligrapher installed.

If you've installed too many sips and uninstalled them....basically messed around with the SIPs (installing and uninstalling)....the registry gets messed up. This makes wm5 to keep thinking and looking for certain dlls until it gives up...
the only way is, do a cleanup (hard reset) and install only the ones you need and are sure of sticking with it until the next hard reset
cheers!
S

Do you have Voice Command installed? If you do, that will slow down the SIP selection.

christan said:
Okay, back to my question ... when you tap on the input method selection arrow at the bottom of your screen, does it take like forever ... okay, not forever, but more like 6-8 seconds ... for the popup menu to appear and let you select type of input method to use ?
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Wonder if it's a WM5 thing because I noticed it on my Wizard and now on my Magician II and just assumed that it was due to the 200Mhz processor. If you're seeing in on a Universal then I guess it can't be a processor thing. It is BLOODY annoying as I only ever use Letter Recogniser and very occasionally the Keyboard, but for some reason it keeps defaulting to the keyboard, particularly aftr the (all too frequent in WM5) soft reset.

Morituri said:
Do you have Voice Command installed? If you do, that will slow down the SIP selection.
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oh ohh,
I last week I installed MS Voice Command and now I got the shown problem. And after a softreset the PDA didn´t starts with my favorit: keyboard.
Any tips?

Morituri said:
Do you have Voice Command installed? If you do, that will slow down the SIP selection.
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Hmmm, as a matter of fact, i do have Voice Command installed ... but I seem to recall seeing this slow SIP selection even before that. Anyway, I have disabled Voice Command and it's still just as slow.
Can anyone else here who does not have Voice Command installed verify this ?

brykins said:
christan said:
Okay, back to my question ... when you tap on the input method selection arrow at the bottom of your screen, does it take like forever ... okay, not forever, but more like 6-8 seconds ... for the popup menu to appear and let you select type of input method to use ?
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Wonder if it's a WM5 thing because I noticed it on my Wizard and now on my Magician II and just assumed that it was due to the 200Mhz processor. If you're seeing in on a Universal then I guess it can't be a processor thing. It is BLOODY annoying as I only ever use Letter Recogniser and very occasionally the Keyboard, but for some reason it keeps defaulting to the keyboard, particularly aftr the (all too frequent in WM5) soft reset.
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Indeed, it is bloody annoying ... I don't see how popping up a menu of available input methods can take that long. It's not like we're asking it to load all the input methods, we just wanna see the list of available methods.
I am also facing the same problem of defaulting to keyboard after a soft reset :roll:

dreamtheater39 said:
If you've installed too many sips and uninstalled them....basically messed around with the SIPs (installing and uninstalling)....the registry gets messed up. This makes wm5 to keep thinking and looking for certain dlls until it gives up...
the only way is, do a cleanup (hard reset) and install only the ones you need and are sure of sticking with it until the next hard reset
cheers!
S
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The thing is, I have not installed or tried out any SIPs other than the ones that came default in the o2 ROM. Can I ask how long does it take for your SIP selection menu to popup ?

christan said:
Can anyone else here who does not have Voice Command installed verify this ?
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No Voice Command installed here and still a very slow SIP menu.....

brykins said:
christan said:
Can anyone else here who does not have Voice Command installed verify this ?
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No Voice Command installed here and still a very slow SIP menu.....
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I guess it's a WM5 issue .... is there anyone here who are NOT experiencing this problem ?

christan said:
dreamtheater39 said:
If you've installed too many sips and uninstalled them....basically messed around with the SIPs (installing and uninstalling)....the registry gets messed up. This makes wm5 to keep thinking and looking for certain dlls until it gives up...
the only way is, do a cleanup (hard reset) and install only the ones you need and are sure of sticking with it until the next hard reset
cheers!
S
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The thing is, I have not installed or tried out any SIPs other than the ones that came default in the o2 ROM. Can I ask how long does it take for your SIP selection menu to popup ?
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I have a qtek 9000 running on the stock rom. My sip opens up almost instantaneously.
Before which, I had the same issue when I was beta testing calligrapher on another device running wm5. It apparently was a problem with one of the beta builds of calligrapher which they claim to have fixed in their final release...however, I've never installed the final release on my universal. So if you have CG installed, try not to install after a hard reset (Last time i had this issue, i had to hard reset...that was the only way out)
San

Anyone able to use Resco Keyboard?

I've read some earlier msg. regarding Resco Keyboard Pro apparently clashing with something on the TyTN. Has anybody been able to get this utility to work consistently? I have the latest version, released after I reported this problem to Resco some weeks ago and they told me this release, 4.35, solves it. After installing RKB is seems to work OK but within hours it stops working and only the standard WM5 virtual keyboard will popup -- RKB will not even operate.

I am currently using it, and it works fine. I had sometime the default keyboard that poped out when I softreseted my phone, but it didnt happend for a long time by now

please search the forum : keyword 'resco' or 'sipchange' without quote. t.q.

fun_key said:
I am currently using it, and it works fine. I had sometime the default keyboard that poped out when I softreseted my phone, but it didnt happend for a long time by now
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Same here, sometimes after a soft reset it won't be enabled, one time it wouldn't start, and I had to softreset to get it to work, other than that it seems to be ok....the only times I notice it not being enabled is mainly when I have been installing or removin software
please search the forum : keyword 'resco' or 'sipchange' without quote. t.q.
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read his other post and the first line of this one...he is aware of the search function...just be helpful or "please" stfu

I've disabled the standard keyboard and Symbols right after installed Resco with SK Tools. Now I have Resco Keyboard and Paragon PenReader as SIPs and have no a problem so far. But I did have problems with the standard and Symbols.

Excuse my ignorance but why would you need virtual keyboard when you have hardware keyboard with TyTN?

raven2000;1036945 said:
Excuse my ignorance but why would you need virtual keyboard when you have hardware keyboard with TyTN?
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Honestly before I got my tytn, and it being my first pda I thought I would always use the hardware keyboard, at first it was all I used, but I have a problem with the tops of my T and Y keys being scuffed by sliding the unit open..so I started using the sip keyboard and just got where I liked it better, also I got where I liked the portrait mode more also, I can use the scroll wheel easier and such...its just kinda grown on me I suppose.
I still use the hardware keyboard when I do my postings on here, just because I can punch it out faster, but I don't like it better...my thumbs are a bit big and I have to use my nails..and they tend to slide to the side of the keys cause they are bubble shaped...it would be nicer if the tops were concave, but when I do any googling or such its just a whole lot easier to type a couple words with the sip keyboard in the search box than to slide the unit open, plus even if your keys don't scuff like mine..you are creating wear, its just a normal occurrence when you have friction.
I'm sure other people have their reasons, those are just mine.

Autocomplete working for anyone?

I have set up all the options for Autocomplete in Settings/Input. I've chosen to NOT use T9 but the regular Windows Mobile autocomplete. It doesn't seem to work at all - I get no list of words appearing inany apps - SMS, email or Word.
Anyone else having the same problem or has anyone got this feature working OK?

Try a soft reset.

yes it does work
yaelle said:
I have set up all the options for Autocomplete in Settings/Input. I've chosen to NOT use T9 but the regular Windows Mobile autocomplete. It doesn't seem to work at all - I get no list of words appearing inany apps - SMS, email or Word.
Anyone else having the same problem or has anyone got this feature working OK?
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i had a similar problem but got help from a very nice member on here unfortunately am at work but what you want to do is search under the posts i started on the forum and find the one i think its entitled letter recognition when typing contacts and if you follow that thread you will be sorted because that's how i got help and if you cant find the thread pm me then all look it up for you

OK - a bit more playing around and I realise that neither auto complete or autocorrect work with the full QWERTY keyboard if T9 is turned off. But they both work fine with the compact QWERTY. Soft reset didn't help though.
Could someone out there test this combination please?

the xperia write 3seconds after I typed

I have a problem on my xperia sincethe begining.
when I type a sms if I write sentence pretty fast I have to wait to allow the pphone to finish writin.
anyone has the same pb? any solution?

did you update your phone to the latest firmware?

Firmware R2A seems to be faster, but I think the lag in general happens alot in windows mobile phones.

I've experienced this issue on my first R1A ROM that I got when the phone shipped in Nov/08. I've just recently updated to R3AA010, and noticed that the issue is still there. I do find that it helps to give the phone 10-15 seconds to finish its processing after rotating the screen (sliding out the hardware KB), since it seems to lag when you start to type RIGHT after rotating.
I am running Wisbar Advance 3 + Desktop 2, so that may have something to do with it, but I have heard that a LOT of ppl are experiencing this. Once I rotate and wait a good 10 seconds before typing, the character-popup speed is improved, but still not instant like it should be.
Could be a generic WinMo fault too...

scar45 said:
I've experienced this issue on my first R1A ROM that I got when the phone shipped in Nov/08. I've just recently updated to R3AA010, and noticed that the issue is still there. I do find that it helps to give the phone 10-15 seconds to finish its processing after rotating the screen (sliding out the hardware KB), since it seems to lag when you start to type RIGHT after rotating.
I am running Wisbar Advance 3 + Desktop 2, so that may have something to do with it, but I have heard that a LOT of ppl are experiencing this. Once I rotate and wait a good 10 seconds before typing, the character-popup speed is improved, but still not instant like it should be.
Could be a generic WinMo fault too...
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Hm... I had the same issues with R1A AND R2A, but I haven't noticed it in R3A. Weird.

I get this issue with TouchIT 7+, and a friend of mine also gets it with Smaberg TouchX. It happened to both of us a couple of weeks after flashing. Strangely it's not happening on my one at the moment, so seems like an intermittant slow down.

thats weird, i got my device with the R2A rom and never experienced such issue, only problem i have with my x1 is that the panels does not rotate without the stutter, but hey, thats common on all xperias

"Disable Word Suggestions from Settings/Personal/Input/Word Completion. If you have a full QWERTY keyboard on your phone, and you're fairly fast at typing, the word suggestions are of no use to you anyway. And I have noticed quite a lag when this setting is on, especially when writing text messages. One would think that a cell-phone with 256MB of RAM, 128MB graphics memory and a 528MHz processor could handle quick typing without delay, but apparently that was a hard nut to crack for Microsoft."

MapleDouglas said:
"Disable Word Suggestions from Settings/Personal/Input/Word Completion. If you have a full QWERTY keyboard on your phone, and you're fairly fast at typing, the word suggestions are of no use to you anyway. And I have noticed quite a lag when this setting is on, especially when writing text messages. One would think that a cell-phone with 256MB of RAM, 128MB graphics memory and a 528MHz processor could handle quick typing without delay, but apparently that was a hard nut to crack for Microsoft."
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That's well worth trying if people haven't already done this. The problem I've experienced is not related to this however, as I've never had it enabled.

Here's the fix:
Along with turning off word suggesrtion. You must also click on "clear stored Entries"...this will get rid of you lag. What happens is the X1 stores everything we type so you must go in periodically (manually) and clear all those stored words out. This along with turning off word suggestion will fix lag time.

guys, I didn't do it on purpose, I xanted to switched from windiws to xperia appearance and it's over, no more pb with typing......and YES i kept word suggestions.
finally I found.
thx to all of you, and let me know if this tip helps!
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yeouda said:
guys, I didn't do it on purpose, I xanted to switched from windiws to xperia appearance and it's over, no more pb with typing......and YES i kept word suggestions.
finally I found.
thx to all of you, and let me know if this tip helps!
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what do you mean you switched from windows to xperia appearance? please tell me where that setting is. i use SPB shell 3.01 if that matters.

yeouda said:
guys, I didn't do it on purpose, I xanted to switched from windiws to xperia appearance and it's over, no more pb with typing......and YES i kept word suggestions.
finally I found.
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andross77 said:
what do you mean you switched from windows to xperia appearance? please tell me where that setting is. i use SPB shell 3.01 if that matters.
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+1 ... yeouda what did you do or change

I just change the look of the skin of winmo
start>settings>today>xperia black
ANDROS77 about spb shell, do you have the same pb?

I just change the look of the skin of winmo
start>settings>today>xperia black
ANDROS77 about spb shell, do you have the same pb?

i'm running on the xperia skin and i always get this issue with the ori rom and the custom roms. mine would normally pause half way through an sms or once or twice stuck at the "To" input when doing sms. i will try to off the auto complete and see if that solve the problem - thanks for the heads-up

Again folks, I said it in my earlier post if you want to fix the text lag, you must "clear stored entry" in seetings underneth the word complettion option. This will end the lag, however periodically you will have to go back in and do it again.

Silly T9/SIP problem, my SIPs have minds of their own...

Hi Guys,
Up until only recently… I had been using Swype as my SIP on my HD2. It wasn’t perfect, but it was tolerable. What wasn’t tolerable was the issues I had using the WM SMS client, instead of the HTC SMS Client. So after so many issues with the WM client, I switched back to the defauly HTC client. This makes Swype even less useable, as in the HTC SMS client… you cannot double-tap words to select them, and when using Swype, the best way to correct typos is the double-tap method.
So, I tried out ShapeWriter and SlideIT, bother were ok… I seemed to have more success with ShapeWriter on day, and SlideIT the next. But in the end… I got tired of the un-reliability of both and went on a SIP search.
This search led me to Resco Keyboard Pro… which I must say, had been quite brilliant. Big buttons, fast typing response, nice interface, good feature set, etc.
After usind Resco quite happily for a few weeks… I began to notice a silly reoccurring problem, that built to be quite frustrating. It seems that something is forcing the keyboard to input letters… that I may no want there.
- When i type words beginning with 'im' Resco Keyboard automatically adds 'ho' as the next two letters. For example: if i type impossible... i get imhopossible. imagine gives me imhoagine. etc.
- Another problem word is “month”. I can type the “m”, “o”, “n”, and “t” all fine… but as soon as I hit “h”… recso wants to enter “mosth” as the primary word choice. “Month” isn’t even a selectable second option. The only way for me to type “month”, is to intentionally mis-spell it, and have the auto-spell-correction fix it for me. I have to type “mobth” or “momth”or “minth” to get the SIP to enter “month”
Just as I am typing this post… I have realized that the problem isn’t localized to Resco Keyboard Pro. FingerKeyboard2 also has the same issues… which suggests the issue is with my phone, rather than the SIPs.
HTCs defauls SIPs have no issue getting the words correct… but they are soooo sluggish.
Can anyone help with this weird problem?

well... after a couple of hard resets, and a couple of ROM flashes to a few different ROMs, the problem remains. i think the cause might be the version of Resco Keyboard Pro that im using (v6.00)... once i install that, the problem begins, then even after uninstalling RKP, i still get the issue on FingerKeyboard (but not on the HTC SIP).
i guess ill just have to wait for an update for Resco Keyboard.
cheers.