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getting a HTC Mogul

hi everyone,
i dont know if im in the right place, but im going to be getting the HTC mogul in a few months and noticed on ebay they had auctions for $99 with new activation, but you cant get a SERO plan. why is that and how can they sell the phones so cheap?
i noticed that most ppl in the hermes forum are using the 8525 or Wing and dont see any mogul users. is this because its harder to make roms for cdma devices or because not many have the mogul yet?
sorry for the newbie questions. thanks in advance for any help!
PS. keep up the great work everyone! ive installed and fully customized my "i phone" theme and now its a hybrid device that contains the best of WM5 and i phone. kudos guys!

hmm...
if everyone is gonna ignore this thread, can someone at least point me in the right direction? thanks.

Sorry can't help you as I have never heard of it but I did google it and there are some hits. You might try that. I have never cared for sprint or cdma phones so google is about the best I can do sorry
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i meant if i were to get the mogul, would i be able to flash it with the hermes roms thats you can find here? i obviously wouldnt be able to use the radio files since they are all GSM, but i just wanted to do some research before i get the mogul from sprint. i noticed most ppl here have GSM phones. is this a development page strictly for GSM or would i be able to use the information found in the Hermes thread on my Mogul?
thanks in advance and keep up the great work everyone!

The mogul is a different device then the hermes (its the htc titan vs the htc tytn) it has a different cpu along with the radio (and more memory) I think flashing a hermes/tytn rom would be a very bad idea.

thanks for clearing that up for me! now...where can i get titan roms?

blazin-asian said:
thanks for clearing that up for me! now...where can i get titan roms?
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I am pretty sure the Wing is a new machine. But as far as I know the Mogul is a Hermes. Can anyone confirm this one way or the other?

I can confirm the Mogul is NOT a hermes.

for crying out loud...
the MOGUL IS NEW!
Its the HTC TITAN (not to be confused with the TYTN), which is a CDMA-only model, which does not directly resemble anything else HTC makes.
Its also known as the XV6800, or PPC-6800.
It is NOT the Hermes, the Tytn, or any other HTC device.
This is one of those few times the CDMA carriers get something GSM does not...
See? This is what happens when the mods decide not to dedicate a new forum for a new device... no one knows whats going on!!

Help! Beginner Here! HTC HD2 on T-Mobile UK

Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!

1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!

Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers

I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.

can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance

johncmolyneux said:
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!

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can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!

giopirolli said:
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!

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Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time

giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.

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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!

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hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday

Double post pls discard

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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....

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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?

[Q] Who would like a guide to debranding there HD's ?

I dont know how many people have branded desire HD's or how many would like a way of debranding there devices.
So this post if for me to see there is a need for such a thing.
So if there is enough people needing this i will look into if it can be donre and write a guide.
:-D

Please do a guide to help me remove the Vodafone bloatware on it
What can be done though at the moment besides from visionary temp root and pm disable?

if anyone with a branded device wants to test this method befor hand please join IRC : freenode channel #DesireHD
You will need a USB mircoSD card reader.
And THIS rom

Did you have a win? I also need info on removing my vodafone bloatware!! =)

i didnt think they had any branding on them? Im on t-mobile UK and cant see anything related to them.

Moved to Themes and Apps for now. Will keep an eye on it.
Cheers,
M_T_M

I'm definitely keen on getting rid of Vodafone bloatware (Australia) but I would like the option of reverting back to my current ROM simply because the warranty becomes void, the moment I flash a new ROM.

I haven't got a DHD, but i'm very interested in it. If i'm going to buy it, i think it will be branded (Vodafone GER). I don't know if the branding will disturb me, but i think updating an unbranded phone is still easyer and faster(!) (because downloading the update OTA or from HTCs page) as waiting for an update from the provider.
If you'll going to write the howto for unbranding DHD, please also mark some notes how to get the phone in delivery of condition (saving branded ROM a.s.o.).

A guide to debranding the Desire HD would definitely be good. Not that I need it, but for those with branded phones, it would be excellent.

T-mobile UK are totally unbranded! Which is awesome, it was too much to hope that they were unlocked as well but hey ho.

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T-mobile UK are totally unbranded! Which is awesome, it was too much to hope that they were unlocked as well but hey ho.
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Ann that's the answer I have been looking for. Is that confirmed ? If so yea if it was unlocked it would of been good
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Here's your guide :
You just have to replace MMC1 by MMC2 and at the end just install your RUU and that's all.
I have debranded my SFR Desire HD last night using this.

Does this remove the SIM lock too, if you flash an unbranded ROM?

I don't think, but just haven't tried yet.

No worries there. Was glad with it till I realized the vibrate was pooched do I have to get a replacement... -_-
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Quick question after permrooting with visionary

Hey everyone! I'm new here in a way with this being my first post but have been on xda for months lurking the forums and absorbing information having to do with samsung vibrant to now the g2. Before i ask my question I must say this website is the best website i have EVER got any sort of information about phones and everything and anything you can possibly do with them! And want to say thank you to EVERYONE who makes it possibly! Now for the question and some sort of problem. I permrooted my g2 last night and everything to my knowledge has gone well. I also even turned S-Off and now i can boot into recovery no problem. The only problem I seem to have and can't find the solution through google or on the forums is that when I have my phone completely powered down and put it on the charger after it's powered down the phone will just automatically boot into recovery without me even doing it. It says "go back to end debugging" when I go to check the key test and I really don't understand what and where it's talking about debugging when I just have my phone plugged into a outlet. If anyone has this problem or maybe has solved this with some sort of solution your insight would be greatly appreciated.

Are you sure you are in the right forum?

well if i'm not in the right one could you kindly please directly to the right one!

Well I'm not sure if you are in the USA and talking about the american T-Mobile G2 as opposed to the european T-Mobile G2 (HTC Hero - like the one on sprint) which is what this here forum is for.
If you have a new G2 try looking for the HTC Vision forum - actually I'll just try and link you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=750
They will help you out with that.

Thanks a lot for the link. I'm all setup there. Thanks again
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Need a complete noobs guide or runthrough :rolleyes:

Hey guys!
So, I finally have two HD2s here, and I'm an idiot so I want a run through of a few things to start off here.
Well, I had a bricked T-Mobile HD2, and I just of recent put a new motherboard in, and it now charges, so I know it works. But thing is, it has had a task29 on the motherboard so I have no clue as to what to do next.
I also have a cracked European HD2 that I bought off a friend for $50. Just has a crack under the glass, and a few dead pixels around the crack. It is running an Android rom of some sort, but I'm wanting to know something.
I want to install either Pdaitejam or Yuki [Back to the Future] Windows Phone 7 builds on both of the HD2s. Now, I wish to be able to do this without bricking either of them LOL.
I need a runthrough of the exact HardSPL and radio, how to install them plus Magldr, and more, so I can hopefully get them running Windows Phone. I already have two live activation codes so I'm good to go.
Thanks,
CJ
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Just click on the guide in my Sig. Whatever that does not cover as far as installing goes. It has links to guides that do cover it.

Thanks mate, will read up on it

Ooops I should have shipped it with a winmo rom pre-installed lol
I can further assist if you need any help

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Ooops I should have shipped it with a winmo rom pre-installed lol
I can further assist if you need any help
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LOL
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