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Qtek 9000 is out of reach

Please give me any advice on the problem with this very good but uncertain device.
After a period of my no activity with GSM net (1.5-2 hours) no one can reach me by phone. Just after i make any call (or send sms, make ussd request) and next 2 hours everything is ok, then i'm again out of reach. Signal indicator is ok, and I can make calls anytime i want, but people can't reach me (till i do any action in net).
I've tryed all ROMs i could find, including the latest one - no results.
Operator - North West GSM (Megafon Volga)
I hope the description of a problem is clear. Sorry if it is not.
Please help.

hi,
maybe changing the phone settings to manual helps.

Hi.
U mean Net Selection - automatic/manual ? I will try...
Btw, is there any possibility to set gsm net ping frequency in registry. Or may be there exist a program that can ping gsm net periodically, i think it should kill the problem (gprs pingers do not solve it, i've already tryed).
I remember that on my old Nokia were such a setings as net requests frequency...
Thank you.

GarryDD said:
U mean Net Selection - automatic/manual ? I will try...
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No results

make sure that your phone settings are correct: in the "band" tab, make sure your network type is set appropriately - if you have a umts (3G) subscription, set it to "wcdma" otherwise, choose "gsm".

Fieldtest Manual

Cellid is coming soon ina new release
Enjoy and Merry Xmas

Thanks so much for that austin_boy!!!

Thanks!!!
Dan

austin_boy said:
Cellid is coming soon ina new release
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It would be useful f it'd show CellIDs for neighbour towers as well!

it will show the cell ids in the next release

Austin_Boy - GOOD JOB
I am T-Mobile user in USA and there is some discripences in user manual and real values.
Item 36 and 37 in User Manual (RLC: Uplink coding Scheme and RLC: Downlink coding Scheme) I have read-outs like this
0 - CS1 - same
8 - MCS4 - different - supposed to be MCS5
9 - MCS5 - different - supposed to be MCS6
12 - MCS8 - different - supposed to be MCS9
This is in EDGE network in NYC area. I use FieldTest_157.
May you check it out? Thank you.

Pawlisko said:
Austin_Boy - GOOD JOB
I am T-Mobile user in USA and there is some discripences in user manual and real values.
Item 36 and 37 in User Manual (RLC: Uplink coding Scheme and RLC: Downlink coding Scheme) I have read-outs like this
0 - CS1 - same
8 - MCS4 - different - supposed to be MCS5
9 - MCS5 - different - supposed to be MCS6
12 - MCS8 - different - supposed to be MCS9
This is in EDGE network in NYC area. I use FieldTest_157.
May you check it out? Thank you.
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Can we monitor the handover process via this field test? If yes, what's the parameter for WCDMA and GSM? Pof, thank you very much for the SuperCID thingy...

tr4657 - What do you mean handover in WCDMA? It does not work this way.
In CDMA as long as WCDMA you may might be served by few NodeB's. In FieldTest in WCDMA group you have field Num3GServing which will tell you how many NodeB are serving you. From 1 to 3 at the same time. Items 154-157. Item 146 shows if handset are communicating with NodeB.
In GSM you will be able to see handover when Cell-ID field will be introduced. But only on the time of handover.
Hope that answer you question

Pawlisko said:
tr4657 - What do you mean handover in WCDMA? It does not work this way.
In CDMA as long as WCDMA you may might be served by few NodeB's. In FieldTest in WCDMA group you have field Num3GServing which will tell you how many NodeB are serving you. From 1 to 3 at the same time. Items 154-157. Item 146 shows if handset are communicating with NodeB.
In GSM you will be able to see handover when Cell-ID field will be introduced. But only on the time of handover.
Hope that answer you question
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OK. Half of my question was answered. Thanks. But I was searching for handover timing and occurences when travelling from point A to point B... I guess I need Nokia Net Monitor to do it.... Huhuhuhi... Sad...

tr4657 - In Nokia Net Monitor you mean Display 41 and 42? If yes - you have to speak with austin_boy thou I think it is not possible that way.
Field test is live program, and you probably need that program to be resident to constantly monitor network parameters and save them.
Nokia NetMon is good, thou to beter monitor networks you need commercial programs, PCMCIA card and laptop to save your findings. Problem with software because it is very expensive (ca. 10k USD).
CDMA and WCDMA work in very different way than GSM. GSM is constant checking due to its nature (TDMA - uses Time, Slots in Cells, Coverage is fixed, only connected to one Slot in BTS, than handoff[handover] to different Slot etc). CDMA is very different (CDMA - uses Code, Cells does not have Slots, Coverage is changing due to workload) that is why it is event driven.
Back to your question - you need better software, for most of us Field_Test is enough - Nokia NetMon is good but also not good enough. If you need more - 10k USD and professional software will give you everything. Almost everything - you need somebody in NMC to cooperate with you for all data.

Thanks for the info. By saying I need a special program; does the program then needs it's own monitoring hardware? I sometimes came across several sites offering the specific hardware to measure all the parameters of Cellular Network including UMTS/CDMA... BTW, what is the name of the software?

tr4657 - I do not have answer for you about software name. I have it somewhere in my private newsgrups but will take time to find it.
I know that there is special software installed in SonyEricsson's, Nokia's and Motorola's handset. This software is very rare, part of selled network infrastructure. Other software is PC based. Usualy you have to have PCMCIA card with special drivers, which allows direct hardware monitoring.
Never heard of software for PPC thou probably it is developed.

Data logging
Can anyone think of a way to log the data from field test at regular intervals eg for mapping reception of an area?

Cell ID Vaule
I have installed this app on my Hermes device. Looks to be working largely OK, but No Cell ID in the AMR section. Any idea ??

Other Devices
Next question - will the application work on any other devices (namely the HTC Artemis). Many Thanks

ace10 said:
I have installed this app on my Hermes device. Looks to be working largely OK, but No Cell ID in the AMR section. Any idea ??
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You need to pick up 2g signal, if your signal is 3g AMR will not work. Force 2g in band selection.

ace10 said:
Next question - will the application work on any other devices (namely the HTC Artemis). Many Thanks
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Is for hermes only.

Cell ID's
vijovame said:
You need to pick up 2g signal, if your signal is 3g AMR will not work. Force 2g in band selection.
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I definately have no 3G signal here - but cell id field was missing from that section..

I'm trying to create a program similar to fieldtest for network diagnostics and troubleshooting for customers on the NextG network which uses 850MHz HSDPA technology. The program must read signal strength and local/neighbouring cell id and then log the data along with some gps info. I'm using an imate jasjam. I guess that the values given in field test are accessed via the RIL? It would be nice to get a copy of the source code for this program so I could see what is happening...

gunrum44 said:
I'm trying to create a program similar to fieldtest for network diagnostics and troubleshooting for customers on the NextG network which uses 850MHz HSDPA technology. The program must read signal strength and local/neighbouring cell id and then log the data along with some gps info. I'm using an imate jasjam. I guess that the values given in field test are accessed via the RIL? It would be nice to get a copy of the source code for this program so I could see what is happening...
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Will be great. Where is NextG?

[Q] Default GPS settings for Rogers branded Focus?

Can anyone tell me the GPS settings for the Rogers Branded Focus?
I've been mucking with my settings, both from the main diagnostic menu and from the GPS test app, and I seem to have messed up a setting somewhere and cannot get "Location" to show on Bing Maps. It keep saying, 'searching' without returning a location.
I'm Interested in the following settings from the Diagnosis app:
(default settings is displayed as sub-heading when entering the option)
MOLR CP/UP
3G MOLR request type
TLS option
and in the GPS test app:
(*#1472365# from diagnosis main screen)
In the ... menu, go to settings:
QoSAccuracyMeter
(read setting)
QoSTimeoutSec
(read setting)
Any help would be handy.
Thanks.

Any updates on this issue??

I have a Rogers Samsung Focus running on FIDO network. I can check it out if you still need ?

Even I am facing the same problem...Maps is unable to locate me..though it was working a few days back..any help will be really appreciated..

dead_on_the_floor said:
Can anyone tell me the GPS settings for the Rogers Branded Focus?
I've been mucking with my settings, both from the main diagnostic menu and from the GPS test app, and I seem to have messed up a setting somewhere and cannot get "Location" to show on Bing Maps. It keep saying, 'searching' without returning a location.
I'm Interested in the following settings from the Diagnosis app:
(default settings is displayed as sub-heading when entering the option)
MOLR CP/UP
3G MOLR request type
TLS option
and in the GPS test app:
(*#1472365# from diagnosis main screen)
In the ... menu, go to settings:
QoSAccuracyMeter
(read setting)
QoSTimeoutSec
(read setting)
Any help would be handy.
Thanks.
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Hey I have Rogers Samsung Focus on FIDO. Here are the readings I got:
QoSAccuracyMeter
(read setting)mine is 0
QoSTimeoutSec
(read setting)mine is 255

PaullikesWINMO said:
Hey I have Rogers Samsung Focus on FIDO. Here are the readings I got:
QoSAccuracyMeter
(read setting)mine is 0
QoSTimeoutSec
(read setting)mine is 255
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Thanks! I too get these values but still GPS is not working..In status it says: Location service is off..when I start the tracking, it says "data unavailable, high accuracy". I have tried to toggle to low accuracy but still it does not get changed. GPSinfo app shows GPS as off..
Please help. GPS was working a few days back..but it has stopped working now..has the chip gone bad?

Is wifi turned on? Toggle wifi on/off then try diagnosis again. I got the same message then toggling the wifi got it working.

Curious?
I've always wondered why the gps lock was so quick. My theory is that the GPS must heavaly rely on AGPS not a real gps using satalites. The reason I say this is that when tweaking those settings I sometime cannot establish a lock for a while. It also seems to be less smooth almost jittery. Also don't tell the faa but I turned the phone on in airplane mode in an airplaine and could not get a gps fix at all so it really leads me to believe these phones must suffer the same issue the old ones do with not getting gps locks as quickly as we hope. This also makes the GPS speedometer useless as I cannot see how fast my plane is going. LOL.

[solved] Switch 3G/2G

Hello,
I just bought Omnia7 and I can't turn 3G off, because there is no such option. I read that it's possible to do in diagnosis. How to do it? I really need to turn it off...
Solved:
Open diagnosis and enter: *#2263# then you can choose: Automatic or 2G or 3G. )) Nice

The t-mobile.de rom lets you change 2g to 3g in settings. I wonder if its available anywhere?!

VonCrisp said:
The t-mobile.de rom lets you change 2g to 3g in settings. I wonder if its available anywhere?!
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Well, open diagnosis and enter what I wrote in first post and you can switch easily :]

Sometimes my phone is on 2g when this setting is on automatic. If I change the setting to prefer 3g, it then immediatly picks up a 3g signal. Does anyone know why it doesn't just use the 3G automatically if it is available?

slysy said:
Sometimes my phone is on 2g when this setting is on automatic. If I change the setting to prefer 3g, it then immediatly picks up a 3g signal. Does anyone know why it doesn't just use the 3G automatically if it is available?
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Because it can get low, so phone will go to 2G. :]

Niiceg said:
Because it can get low, so phone will go to 2G. :]
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Thanks for the response. The problem I have is that the Xbox Live Extras app won't connect to Xbox Live over 2G, I just get an error message. Over 3g it's fine. Is this a known issue that happens for everyone? I guess I will have to leave it set to prefer 3g in diagnostics.

slysy said:
Thanks for the response. The problem I have is that the Xbox Live Extras app won't connect to Xbox Live over 2G, I just get an error message. Over 3g it's fine. Is this a known issue that happens for everyone? I guess I will have to leave it set to prefer 3g in diagnostics.
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Yea, it happens to me too :] Well, I think it needs more data and etc. :]

When set to prefer 3G, will the phone still use 2G if there is no 3G signal at all?

There is a regedit on the main dev forums that allows to unlock the 3g to 2g toggle for the phones settings.

How can I enter in Open diagnosis mode?

Niiceg said:
Hello,
I just bought Omnia7 and I can't turn 3G off, because there is no such option. I read that it's possible to do in diagnosis. How to do it? I really need to turn it off...
Solved:
Open diagnosis and enter: *#2263# then you can choose: Automatic or 2G or 3G. )) Nice
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Dude, when givin' sum info pls try to describe procedures as clearly as possible.
When ya dial da code, there are three options popin'up and a lotta numeric buttons plus "back" and "'end" So be so kind as to give a detailed step-by-step manual. In yr case ya should've at least pointed out that these steps do not display any additional toggle switch bw 2G/3G. Moreover at SR ya still got da finger
So nothing is SOLVED

cerato said:
Dude, when givin' sum info pls try to describe procedures as clearly as possible.
When ya dial da code, there are three options popin'up and a lotta numeric buttons plus "back" and "'end" So be so kind as to give a detailed step-by-step manual. In yr case ya should've at least pointed out that these steps do not display any additional toggle switch bw 2G/3G. Moreover at SR ya still got da finger
So nothing is SOLVED
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Open diagnosis by dialing in dialer ##634#
Then diagnosis app should be added to your app list, open it
In diagnosis dial *#2263#
You get to choose from 3G, 2G and Automatic. Near these options you have numbers 1, 2, 3. So choose one of them and press the key on the keyboard. Choose the connection (all) and press end. That's it

Samsung tools gives you a slider in phone menu

mendel129 said:
Samsung tools gives you a slider in phone menu
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Is it possible to get dev unlocked phone on NoDo?

[Q] Anyoen understand the CID data output in Field Test?

Im wondering if anyone understands the debug/ Field Test output, (dial *#*#4636#*#*) in particular CID and neighbor cell data.
1) It looks like CID is in a new format now, a longer decimal format? (after hex decoded)
2) I thought that retail phones did not expose neighbor cell CIDs in UMTS, that this was only typically in GSM mode. But the Nexus 4 however does expose something about "neighbors". It could simply be that its uncommon, that I never had a phone that exposed it. In any case neghbor cell values, the (hex) CID value is "too" short.. and..what does is mean? Regarding cell monitoring apps: a few continue to show the old (recognizable) CID values, and some this new "long decimal format string"
Anyone with insight?