Database Users

Clean up useless posts

I love this forum and am on here every day. However, I find it hard to wake up in the morning and read through several pages of when is the update coming or flashing now etc.etc.etc.
I am not sure if a moderator has the abilityor not but, to me, It seems that all the useless posts should be cleaned up and removed from [DEV] threads. That way all the pertinant information reguarding the thread can be found in just a few pages instead of tons. Thus eliminating most of the how do you root, how do you flash, how do you, (well i think you get the picture).
Anywho,Just my humble opinion.

+1
If I was a mod I would clean all the Dev threads but well I am just a poster

haha you gotta be kidding me to clean up this thread would be to much hassle...would be easier just to bomb this whole sub forum and just start new
even to clean just the dev threads that are most important are filled with so much useless posts it would take a lot of work for a mod to clean up

Not Necessarily.
Not sure how vBulletin works, but I know when I used to mod on PHPbb/Punbb forums, moderators had the option to do batch deletes on posts.

don't make useless posts about useless posts...

Maybe there should be a Android Dev forum for the cdma hero like the gsm hero have.

Someone had suggested in the darchstar rom thread that dev threads should have a rule that no one can post unless they have at least 200 posts under their belt. (or something like that)
I'm not sure if the forum has those kind of options, but that would cut down on some of the silliness that is asked on the threads by noobs. (usually because they didn't even take the time to read through all the posts and see that the same question had been asked, and answered, 10 other times)
I would sure like to see it. Even though I'm not close to 200 posts yet
-AndyS-

realmrealm said:
Someone had suggested in the darchstar rom thread that dev threads should have a rule that no one can post unless they have at least 200 posts under their belt. (or something like that)
I'm not sure if the forum has those kind of options, but that would cut down on some of the silliness that is asked on the threads by noobs. (usually because they didn't even take the time to read through all the posts and see that the same question had been asked, and answered, 10 other times)
I would sure like to see it. Even though I'm not close to 200 posts yet
-AndyS-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is a terrible idea. Post count is not an indicator of experience.

akijikan said:
That is a terrible idea. Post count is not an indicator of experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and you are posting here too? JESUS CHRIST man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639204

johnsongrantr said:
and you are posting here too? JESUS CHRIST man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639204
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
stfu, that thread was started to invite him to share with the people at large.

akijikan said:
stfu, that thread was started to invite him to share with the people at large.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
look at the G*D D*MN title of this topic!!! INVITE HIM WITH A PM NOT A NEW THREAD!!!

johnsongrantr said:
look at the G*D D*MN title of this topic!!! INVITE HIM WITH A PM NOT A NEW THREAD!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. I will post a question to him if I please. It's not hurting anyone else and its not "useless" as you implied with your reference to the title of this thread. His response could be of use to other people.

even though i know people will jump on my back for this I agree...some people on thius forum provide valuable help and services and then some people just think they are getting paid by xda to police forums....they act like they have stock in xda and have a say....although they may find some topics useless..some dont...so dont waste your time by acting like your gods gift to xda cause it legitimetly does no one any good

f*uck... i don't even care anymore... post a topic about eating a cheeseburger for all i care

johnsongrantr said:
f*uck... i don't even care anymore... post a topic about eating a cheeseburger for all i care
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lets not do that people.

To everyone working on root..

I hate to let you down, this is not related to rooting the phone.
I'm not a developer. The most advanced code I've written was in my high school computer science course in Pascal. I've used C++ before, but never got anywhere.
You probably don't realize what you're doing requires an amazing amount of skill and mental aptitude. Its something second-hand almost to you developers, but some of us even have a hard time understanding step-by-step instructions. The only way most of us can even begin to contribute is by money, but unfortunately, I can't afford to donate to supply you a source of income, so I know you are mainly doing this for yourself, and then sharing it with others to showcase your ability.
Honestly and wholly from the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU for everything you do for us. I know this is probably unnecessary motivation as you're probably working on rooting right now, but really your hard work is truly admired.
THANK YOU and THANK YOU.
I hope everyone else who sees this and can offer no other means of gratitude will add to this post in support of our developers.

Whats the point of this thread? a$$ kissing wont get the phone rooted any faster...GEEZ

Yeah kind of a pointless misleading thread, why not just thank the people doing the work in all the other threads?

suzook said:
Whats the point of this thread? a$$ kissing wont get the phone rooted any faster...GEEZ
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't be a tool...at least he is kind enough to say thanks.

I've just completed my first year of college for Software Engineering, and it can be frustrating enough trying to find other ways to solve a problem when all the ideas you had didnt work. I couldn't imagine what it would be like to work on rooting a phone.
I'm pretty sure the dev's enjoy a thank you every now and then. I would imagine its nice getting some appreciation inbetween all the complaints that the phone isn't rooted yet and that it need to be asap.

sorry, but its still a pointless thread

To all you jerks in this thread get off XDA! You are a disease that is destroying this wonderful site! This is not a useless thread at all its called GRATITUDE you rude parasites!
-------------------------------------
Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App

suzook said:
sorry, but its still a pointless thread
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry but you joining this forum is obviously pointless. You have nothing to say that contributes so why don't you keep reading and stop posting.

bilbobrian said:
Don't be a tool...at least he is kind enough to say thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ROTFL that you said don't be a "tool" considering your avatar picture.
my wife has that as part of a tattoo ... the eyes are in the center of the triangle formed by the alien arms from one of the shirts. i'm sure i have a picture somewhere...
she wants to incorporate something from each one of the albums

suzook said:
sorry, but its still a pointless thread
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thumbs way the [email protected]# up!!!!!!!!!!!!

DanDroidOS said:
To all you jerks in this thread get off XDA! You are a disease that is destroying this wonderful site! This is not a useless thread at all its called GRATITUDE you rude parasites!
-------------------------------------
Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
who are you again?

1wingangel said:
who are you again?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hate these idiotic flame wars. Messages like the one in the OP really actually do help.
Maybe you guys will eventually realise that by pointing out that somebody's post is "stupid and pointless", just shows the real devs how idiotic and immature our "community" is.
If a method is found, it will be posted. The entitlement issues that are shown by people like you have to stop.

Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this a on XDA

1wayjonny said:
Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this a on XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
X2, pointless thread.

MOVE ME!!!

Thread Closed and moved to General.
@ Everyone,
Calm down. Please stop the cursing, flaming, and pointless trolling whenever someone posts things in the wrong place. If anything like this happens, please report the thread and we will be more than happy to move it. No need for anyone to say "wrong place" or anything offensive to the OP.

2.2 on Vibrant?

i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?

if I was a mod I'd lock this thread

I'll one up you, I would ban him

You can get froyo in the vibrant thro a custom rom.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

I want to know why many peeps here hate about question on froyo for vibrant?

SiL3nTKiLL said:
ok my bad guys, i did research on it afterwords and it seems there isnt a full froyo out..Mod edit: language removed from quote
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is why people rage about this...There are 20 gazillion 2.2 threads...and one search button. Search always loses

All the roms available for the phone are on the first two pages of the development side. Not like people are hiding **** keeping full 2.2 roms to themselves, that's why these threads are stupid.
Lol at researching afterwards haha.

SiL3nTKiLL said:
i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No 2.2 for the vibrant yet... No eta either. Just be patient, we will get it eventually.
In the mean time you should try one of the two froyo roms that are in the forum.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

looks like 2.2 for vibrant may come shortly though. we'll see.
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/5038470-official-froyo-release-galaxy-s-

SiL3nTKiLL said:
man people are so uptight on this forum now, back in the day it was never like this...oh well, i guess when ur a 12yr old hiding behind a monitor, u can be the biggest e-thug u want to be out there :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No its just the fact that no one these days can figure out how to use the "Search" function & there are all of these useless threads that pop up. (Hint: This thread)

uwradu said:
... mind numbing rudeness of people ... Nothing sours the moment more quickly than scanning a thread for nuggets of hidden info while constantly tripping over tripe ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 Agree, This community has become a little bitter - Why ???

People are bitter and frustrated because every day dozens of people are posting new threads about topics that have been answers, already have dozens of threads about the same topic, the answers are in the sticky, or just general whining. I personally have never seen a forum where so many people create new threads about the same exact thing numerous times a day.
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration. All of this crowds up the forum making it harder to find people with new issues, actually finding GOOD information (how many times do we need to hear that a TMO rep said something was coming in a week? really), and trying to find legitimate news.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.

KerryG said:
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This ^^^^^^

KerryG said:
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do wish there was a little more active moderation in this forum. As for the OP's suggestion that people calm down, spending any time in this forum ~1 day before the JI6 update dropped would have seen no less than 2 Froyo threads in the front page, and there have been by last count 7 within the last month.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This won't happen until they invent the "physical beatdown over IP" protocol. The Internet is what is it because being polite isn't required to escape physical confrontation unscathed. It's easy to be willfully ignorant and to shrug off attempts to be educated, and it's just as easy to browbeat people who flippantly ignore general etiquette. Copernicus would be rolling over in his grave to know that everyone on the Internet thinks the universe revolves around them.

I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.

Zylograth said:
I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.

PaiPiePia said:
because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so rather than ignore the thread and let it fall off the front page you would rather spam insults and useless information?

PaiPiePia said:
because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well folks, another has appeared. I've done a clean-up here, and fired off infractions to those flaming and cursing. This will not be tolerated, and trolling will be dealt with seriously.
This thread won't be opening due to the sheer number of similar threads already in existence.

Why is it that...

Every thread that Master can't prove something he request that it be closed?

Give me an example of a thread
Link please

who cares. he is a developer and works for FREE. let me ask a question:
why do so many people here dry to drive away all of our developers? Do you want a phone from samsung with crappy software that runs about as smooth as my old mytouch with 2.2?

rsfaze said:
Every thread that Master can't prove something he request that it be closed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean the thread that was hi-jacked? What did I not prove?
I requested it be closed BECAUSE it was hi-jacked.
My last thread was closed because you started a flame war & it got off topic.

kboater said:
who cares. he is a developer and works for FREE. let me ask a question:
why do so many people here dry to drive away all of our developers? Do you want a phone from samsung with crappy software that runs about as smooth as my old mytouch with 2.2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He doesn't work for free, each link in his signature goes to his donation box. Go check out his website where his donation % went from being at 90% of his goal to now its back at 5%.

xriderx66 said:
Give me an example of a thread
Link please
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
here ya go...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10211606#post10211606
oh Master since you feel it's acceptable to tell people NOT to post in thread, I am asking you to NOT post in this thread.
thanks

rsfaze said:
He doesn't work for free, each link in his signature goes to his donation box. Go check out his website where his donation % went from being at 90% of his goal to now its back at 5%.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you realize that is automatically reset every month and goes up to the percentage that is for my server?
We just had a town hall, did you even read it?

Master™ said:
You mean the thread that was hi-jacked? What did I not prove?
I requested it be closed BECAUSE it was hi-jacked.
My last thread was closed because you started a flame war & it got off topic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
actually I did not start a flame war, it appears one of the actual developers of the Sense port called you out, and that is what lead to you asking for the thread to be closed. Please get your fact straight.

rsfaze said:
actually I did not start a flame war, it appears one of the actual developers of the Sense port called you out, and that is what lead to you asking for the thread to be closed. Please get your fact straight.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He didn't develop anything to my knowledge. He didn't call me out, he stated something and I told him what I heard & he knows.
He asked everyone else to do something.
Rafy was a main developer
Like I said, please get your facts right. And quit flame baiting.
And you DID start a flame war in my old thread.

Master™ said:
He didn't develop anything to my knowledge. He didn't call me out, he stated something and I told him what I heard & he knows.
He asked everyone else to do something.
Rafy was a main developer
Like I said, please get your facts right. And quit flame baiting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so Rafy was the main developer which leads me to believe there were others? Maybe that's why it was called TeamgalaxySense?
I think you just proved my point for me, thanks!

rsfaze said:
so Rafy was the main developer which leads me to believe there were others? Maybe that's why it was called TeamgalaxySense?
I think you just proved my point for me, thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm. Didn't I say, several times.
That is the first beta that I GOT TO BOOT
The thing was dropped. If they wanted to start a new thread with there newest work, then they could of. But they didn't
The thread was closed for a reason, why open up a thread, that is a flame bait?

Master™ said:
Hmmm. Didn't I say, several times.
That is the first beta that I GOT TO BOOT
The thing was dropped. If they wanted to start a new thread with there newest work, then they could of. But they didn't
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you did but that is where you are wrong, you were not the first person that got it to boot. Barakin was the first to have it booting on the Vibrant not you.
Master™ said:
Hmmm. Didn't I say, several times.
That is the first beta that I GOT TO BOOT
The thing was dropped. If they wanted to start a new thread with there newest work, then they could of. But they didn't
The thread was closed for a reason, why open up a thread, that is a flame bait?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This thread was created to ask the general public a question, hence why it's in the general section. Sorry if you can't resist the urge to post here, I've asked you NOT to but you still continue.

rsfaze said:
Yes you did but that is where you are wrong, you were not the first person that got it to boot. Barakin was the first to have it booting on the Vibrant not you.
This thread was created to ask the general public a question, hence why it's in the general section. Sorry if you can't resist the urge to post here, I've asked you NOT to but you still continue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just came to my forum under the username tester123 spammed it, flamed people.. And the posted this:\
You always flame EVERYONE.
http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/6976/reallypng.png
Try to contribute to the community

RSFAZE,
Go find a girlfriend or something to do....... I do not know what your issue with this dev or any dev has done to "sink your rubber ducky........... but keep it to yourself. If you don't like master or any other dev don't bring it here to pollute XDA
Mod please close this as it is not productive to XDA and does not beneift this forum or its members

oka1 said:
RSFAZE,
Go find a girlfriend or something to do....... I do not know what your issue with this dev or any dev has done to "sink your rubber ducky........... but keep it to yourself. If you don't like master or any other dev don't bring it here to pollute XDA
Mod please close this as it is not productive to XDA and does not beneift this forum or its members
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
reported for flaming. This thread was again created to get feedback from the community, not to have someone with their feelings hurt come here and spam this thread.
Now if you have something productive to add, I would love to hear it.

rsfaze said:
reported for flaming. This thread was again created to get feedback from the community, not to have someone with their feelings hurt come here and spam this thread.
Now if you have something productive to add, I would love to hear it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am reporting this thread for off topic, non productive & flame bait

Master™ said:
I am reporting this thread for off topic, non productive & flame bait
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Off topic? I don't follow. This thread is in the general area, not in development and it seems pretty on topic if you ask me. So far all responses have been directed at the OP.
Don't get upset at me because you can't stand back and let the community speak for themselves on this.

rsfaze said:
Off topic? I don't follow. This thread is in the general area, not in development and it seems pretty on topic if you ask me. So far all responses have been directed at the OP.
Don't get upset at me because you can't stand back and let the community speak for themselves on this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This isn't about the Vibrant. So it is off topic. Just because it isn't in the development section doesn't mean it is on-topic
Goodnight though. I am tired, had a long day.

Master™ said:
This isn't about the Vibrant. So it is off topic. Just because it isn't in the development section doesn't mean it is on-topic
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well since you develop for the Vibrant, I think this is the most logical place for this thread. If the mods of this site feel it's better in another area they will move it.
Would this be more on topic in a section of XDA that you are not known?

And thus it begins again.

Now we're getting to the point where nothing belongs anywhere. Seriously, stop ****ting on us productive and helpful members. And now apparently voicing your opinion doesn't belong anywhere either. This place used to be a fun and open community, now it seems like a place for these "moderators" to openly abuse their power.

Couldn't agree more. COMMUNICATION moderators!

this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..

chris41g said:
this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"

thomasskull666 said:
Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sadly +1 thomasskull666, qbking77, and Chris41g you are all right. this ubermod heavy handedness is ridiculous.

you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...

chris41g said:
you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)

machx0r said:
You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
troll 10char

thomasskull666 said:
Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.

jarcher1971 said:
troll 10char
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
jarcher1971 said:
so Machx0r, or should i call you Cory Charlton, famous cut and paste dev of the smoking log. what did you find in Chris41g's post that was copywritten material. i don't see any at all. who appointed you forum sherrif anyway. if you don't like what you see, just go away. you are not contributing to EPIC development one bit with all this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
(Wish I had the option to save sent replies prior to sending this):
<Summary>The McGraw hill book with a clear copyright of 2008 on page 3 or whaterver</Summary>
Call me a troll all you want but I believe that stealing is wrong. Sue me...

the_scotsman said:
As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are too blind to see the issue then leave. YOU aren't helping, you're making this harder on yourself.

Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.

the issue is that any thread regarding "epic general chat" in the "epic general chat" section is closed, yet numerous unrelated flaming, trolling threads remain open.. how is a thread asking where to begin learning to develop for the epic off topic in the "epic" general chat?

Ok, so which threads were closed that you feel shouldn't have been? Apart from the two that were closed by Mr. Clown?

the_scotsman said:
As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is the problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177076
chris41g posted a link to a copyrighted McGraw hill PDF. The thread was closed and the link was removed (partially, still available in a quote). and now the whining begins about how it's unfair that you prohibit them from stealing the hard work of others...
Seriously? Unfortunately...
PS: There is also the starter thread that was perhaps closed out of line but really whine about it like this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176684

and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?

the_scotsman said:
Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What planet are you from? The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour. Obviously there is some sort of disconnect, so please sort out your internal troubles before coming in here flaunting your moderator status. Chris41g and I have been here for quite some time so we're no stranger to the overpowering by mods, but at some point it has to stop and I think now is a great time. We go months and months without seeing a single moderator and now all of a sudden you guys come in and starting closing/deleting threads left and right with no explanation. Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.

chris41g said:
and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
False:
Mr. Clown said:
Thank you for your good intentions, there is a great forum in this site (Chef central) where everybody has access and learn all about this.
Also, you are breaching rule number 9, posting copyright material.
Thread closed and links removed,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He even thanked you for your intentions...

thomasskull666 said:
The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you please point me to these "helpful and meaningful threads" that have been closed? (aside from the two recent ones closed by Mr. Clown)? Then we can establish the problems.
thomasskull666 said:
Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Feel free to PM MikeChannon, the forum admin.

if you cant read....
he closed it because he said it belonged elsewhere..
then went on to say, ALSO it contained copywrighted material. now, since that issue is cleared up. can you get off my nuts about the book?