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Hello Guys,
First of all I would like to thank all the guys here for sharing their knowledge, files, making extraordinary tutorials etc. I am a newbie here and also a new owner of X1i which i got in german language. I know how newbie posts may look like so i tried to explore the forum as much as i could and after so many tries (unnatural forces saved the phone from hitting the wall;-) i successfully flashed my Xperia to English language. That was my goal.
I didn't know how to backup my original ROM (no problem about that cause i won't be needing it) but i noted all the original info i could find from it before updating.
Forum is really huge and somtimes its needed to go over 20+ pages at one thread. So please don't mind me (bear with the newbie;-) ) Everything is working fine for me now. I would like to know if my system is up-to-date. Maybe there are newer stuff, English language, to update my phone, rom, operating system, etc. This is my before/after situation.
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Original:
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ROM version: 1.02.939.3
ROM date: 08/29/08
Radio Version: 1.06.25.29
Protocol Version: 52.43.25.24U
Software Id: 1213-6437
Software Version: R1AA017
Customization Id: 1215-3301
Customization Version: R6A
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Updated:
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ROM version: 1.02.931.3
ROM date: 08/29/08
Radio Version: 1.06.25.29
Protocol Version: 52.43.25.24U
Software Id: 1213-6450
Software Version: R1AA017
Customization Id: 1215-1832
Customization Version: R15A
Customization Variant: GENERIC_UK
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bootloader or firmware (not sure what it is)
original: KOVS110 SPL-0.72.0000
updated: KOVS110 SPL-0.72.OliNex
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I was also playing around some more and installed HTC TouchFLO, Manilla.
TouchFLO 3D 1.3.35345.1_1630.38
It is working fine but sometimes when using it, customizing options, just exploring the phone, nothing special, it uses to freeze sometimes. I have to remove the battery to restart it. Do such things happen, i know its not xperia native? Is there maybe a newer port of TouchFLO for Xperia i could use.
Thanks a bunch guys!
milanca said:
Hello Guys,
First of all I would like to thank all the guys here for sharing their knowledge, files, making extraordinary tutorials etc. I am a newbie here and also a new owner of X1i which i got in german language. I know how newbie posts may look like so i tried to explore the forum as much as i could and after so many tries (unnatural forces saved the phone from hitting the wall;-) i successfully flashed my Xperia to English language. That was my goal.
I didn't know how to backup my original ROM (no problem about that cause i won't be needing it) but i noted all the original info i could find from it before updating.
Forum is really huge and somtimes its needed to go over 20+ pages at one thread. So please don't mind me (bear with the newbie;-) ) Everything is working fine for me now. I would like to know if my system is up-to-date. Maybe there are newer stuff, English language, to update my phone, rom, operating system, etc. This is my before/after situation.
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Original:
________
ROM version: 1.02.939.3
ROM date: 08/29/08
Radio Version: 1.06.25.29
Protocol Version: 52.43.25.24U
Software Id: 1213-6437
Software Version: R1AA017
Customization Id: 1215-3301
Customization Version: R6A
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Updated:
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ROM version: 1.02.931.3
ROM date: 08/29/08
Radio Version: 1.06.25.29
Protocol Version: 52.43.25.24U
Software Id: 1213-6450
Software Version: R1AA017
Customization Id: 1215-1832
Customization Version: R15A
Customization Variant: GENERIC_UK
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bootloader or firmware (not sure what it is)
original: KOVS110 SPL-0.72.0000
updated: KOVS110 SPL-0.72.OliNex
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I was also playing around some more and installed HTC TouchFLO, Manilla.
TouchFLO 3D 1.3.35345.1_1630.38
It is working fine but sometimes when using it, customizing options, just exploring the phone, nothing special, it uses to freeze sometimes. I have to remove the battery to restart it. Do such things happen, i know its not xperia native? Is there maybe a newer port of TouchFLO for Xperia i could use.
Thanks a bunch guys!
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There is a new ROM update for Generic UK ROM. Please check link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
Maybe you could try a custom cooked ROM with the newest touch flo such as:
Touch-IT 4.0 b4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485624
(based on newest UK ROM)
Bxsteez Touch of Color 2.00 b2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486100
(based on newest NAM ROM)
Both have the landscape touch flo and are really fast roms...
For all available roms plz check:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477801
If you ever need apps or else etc look for an overview right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439
New ROM is available via Sony Update Service now, for those people who were reluctant to update with the ROMs available on xda...
Thank you all guys very much, really appreciated.
With TouchFLO i have now, i got rid of freezes by removing it from today's items and adding touchflo panel.. So far no freezes or anything. Definitely later today i'll give it a go with Touch-IT 4.0b4, looks really great.
@Lokatho, thanks buddy for all these links. I see from your signature you have 4.0b4 running, i bet i runs great. Regarding SPL, it was my main trouble before i could update new rom. After updating it to SPL-0.72.OliNex everything goes smoothly as through butter, no more 0% stops or such and i can update roms easily. I see you have different one, i am not sure if its the same as this one i have. Do i have to update it or just to keep the one i have.
I used my laptop with windows for doing all the updates but i also use a Mac for everyday work. I can confirm that BluePhoneElite 2, for Mac users, is working like a charm with X1.. This phone is really beautiful. I will also give it a try with MissingSync for Mac later, if i can do the syncing with it i'll be more than happy ;-)
milanca said:
@Lokatho, thanks buddy for all these links. I see from your signature you have 4.0b4 running, i bet i runs great. Regarding SPL, it was my main trouble before i could update new rom. After updating it to SPL-0.72.OliNex everything goes smoothly as through butter, no more 0% stops or such and i can update roms easily. I see you have different one, i am not sure if its the same as this one i have. Do i have to update it or just to keep the one i have.
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Nope, it's the same version. But it's the first version of Hard-SPL for X1, so Hard-SPL v1.0. But when in boot mode it says SPL-0.72.OliNex.
Have been running roms from itje since his Touch-IT 2.2 and love them ever since. But I must say the 4.0 is imho the best!
Thanks a lot, now much more things are clear to me.
I updated to Touch-It v.4 b6 (in the mean time it had become availabe). It is working flawlessly. I had some minor problems, wi-fi droppings, but i found out that my X1 just doesn't get along very well with my MSI router. This weekend i tried it with one of Belkin's 11b-g-n routers and the phone has rock soild wireless connection. So i bet its something related with the compatibility or MSI just sucks. I tried with no wi-fi security, WPA-WPA2/PSK, WEP and it drops all the time and looses connection. With Belkin it works just great with any of the wi-fi security.
As i am brand new with this, a week or so, i was also playing around with making my own rom, based on UK R2AA010. Actually i made very much stripped OS, got rid of most of the things i don't use at all, totally lite version. Rom is fast and there is plenty of free memory. I dont know how hard is to incorporate TouchFLO 3D in it, but also i dont mind installing it separately, as i did it first time when i tried touchflo on xperia. I am not sure what's the latest xperia touchflo port version. I tried Blackstone (with black numbers on home panel, if thats the version) which i dont like. I prefer the variant as in latest touch-it4b6 or the one i had for the first time, TouchFLO 3D 1.3.35345.1_1630.38. It works fine with the panel installed, freezes when in today's items. But when restarting the phone default experia panel is loaded and not touchflo one. Can't figure it out. Can someone put a little light on TouchFLO for me please?
Thanks guys!
pcarvalho eXtreme ROM 3.19 WM6.5 OS 5.2.21911/23569/28014/24001/ 29022 WWE R0
Development has been resumed, my thanks to all that made this possible
HTC POLARIS WM65 BUILDs: 21911 [COM2] / 23569 [COM5] / 28014 [WMD] / 24001 / 29022
[READ THESE FEW POSTS BEFORE PROCEEDING]
Roms sorted by date.
UPDATE:
29022 is up, follow the white rabbit...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15707730&postcount=8079
this is a fix release...sound issues should be gone...had to remove htc volume control is it still has issues...fixes minor gfx glitches...updated to lastest and probably final leak version of wm6.5.3 (29022)...will from now on work on unresolved issues and finalize rom...this will still take some time due to work...
updated physics engine and utask app by ultrashot...my thanks to him...
patched htc album to novsync, faster scrolling once cache is made...
removed no longer supported apps (my phone and marketplace)...if u need them install via cab...
Important Note:
if you have radio 1.65.xx.xx installed on your polaris, downgrade the radio 1st...
it will not allow you to flash any other ROM (i couldn't even flash official HTC ROM when i tried a ROM with that radio)
link 2 a radio that allows downgrade
There seem to be HR and MC losing data issues with some roms, so i recommend flashing a htc original rom and only then this one, before proceeding as always make a backup of all data before attempting to use this rom...
This is released as "WORK IN PROGRESS" so you can if you want, post what works/what doesn't...
in time i'll correct bugs and release when it seems fit...meanwhile i'll actively answer all major questions, giving all support which is always nice to have...hope you all like it...
cheers
Details:
Rom Name: pcarvalho polaris eXtreme (Beta) R0
Radio included: no radio included but has to be 1.59 and above
OS: 5.2.21911 / 23569 / 28014 / 24001 / 29022 WWE (thanks to the people that make them available)
OEM Drivers: 3.19/1.60 (thanks to Cmonex and chavonbravo) or 3.19 untouched (htc)
NOTES:
You NEED HardSPL installed before flashing any ROM...
Don't forget to make a backup of all data before trying it out...
1st boot takes long time to complete...
Hard Reset after 1st Boot (when it gets 2 calibration screen) to minimize problems, this is always a must as most problems are do to not doing so...
use compatible Radio depending on what version you download...
3G an H are disabled by default for max battery...
some programs have been tweaked, so if you feel they are slower or got bugs, please report them...
support will be provided, here in this thread ASAP...
the (Beta) is due to the fact that wm65 is not released yet...
Tested incoming /outgoing calls... but cannot speak or hear...plus camera all black...change the RADIO to supported one...
2G dialer is made for portrait only
iGO hangs...disable AGPS
Bugs:
cant set date. solution: use wheel.
headphone icon is not displayed in taskbar. solution: not found
myCabs:
pcarvalho WM65 Old Style Icons
THANKS:
all ROM cookers, friends and anyone else that might have helped me one time or so, for the help they gave me while i was learning how to cook, everyone that made all the awesome tools to make cooking possible so everyone could get a better rom for their device
my thanks also to all those that appreciated my work, support it and have sent me some coffee for my long nights awake working for all of you
ScreenShots:
Build 21911:
Build 23569:
Note: Both have similar software, only major diference is button layout.
Original HTC ROM:
RUU_Polaris_HKCSL_WWE_3.19.831.3_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship
RUU_Polaris_HKCSL_WWE_3.19.831.3_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship mirror
flash this rom 1st if you have any stability issues
do not flash if you cant handle BETA software, this 6.5.X has issues, lots of them, its normal to be so as its still in development
ScreenShots of WM6.5.X build, thanks der-nickel
Please use supplied links only
Old:
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [28014] (non3D) [24-Dec-Merry Xmas]
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [28014] (non3D) [24-Dec-Merry Xmas] mirror
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.3D.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (85MB RAM) [28014] (3D) [24-Dec-Merry Xmas]
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.3D.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (85MB RAM) [28014] (3D) [24-Dec-Merry Xmas] mirror
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [24001] (non3D) [13-Feb]
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 WWE Release (101MB RAM) [21911] (non3D) [01-Aug]
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 WWE Release (101MB RAM) [23569] (non3D) [01-Aug]
New:
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 WWE Release (101MB RAM) [23569] (non3D) [25-Oct] fileserve.com Link
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 WWE Release (101MB RAM) [23142] (non3D) [24-Oct] fileserve.com Link
(test version, for debugging only, should work just fine but has bugs)
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if you like my rom's, use them and want to keep me motivated or just simply to buy me a coffee, in return i'll give you the best support i can, thanks
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for alternate links: ask me via PM, thanks
ps: please report all bugs found.
Note:
to people that post my rom on other forums, could you please either copy this full post or post a link to this post, instead of posting the direct link to the rom, else others cant read about problems and fixes avaliable. thanks
Fixes/Tweaks:
Titanium Tweaks
3G Dialer
Battery/Clock/New icons/3G and H tweaks
Disable connections disconnect on end key
Disable default bubble pop-up when incoming call (fixed in 2300X and above)
Default dialer fix for when device locked (only if you disabled slider dialer) (fixed in 2300X and above)
Enable vibrate on touch (ezinput 2.1)
Backlight Fix (23009)
Manila 2D installer
Video not playing fix
M2DC
add Chinese Support
fix iGO8 - ezinput 2.1 issues
make blue bars black in WM65X Builds
small tweaks:
1. to make screen more touch sensitive when aligning screen, tap on the cross with the least pressure possible...
2. want to autolock device? goto start>settings>system>smart lock...
3. want to hide contacts from SIM card? then advanced config will be your friend...
Things people are always asking about:
Q: When will a new version be released?
A: when im done testing and i think its good for most people...
Q: Will other languages other than english (WWE) be made?
A: simple answer...no...maybe in 2010...
Q: Can you make a 3D/Lite/XYZ version? and when will it be out?
A: yes i can make it...as long as i have time, it will be out when downloads provide me with the info that people want more of it and i have time to make/test it...
Q: Can you make a build based on COM2/3/4/5/Z?
A: yes, i can...but ill be the judge of when and how ill make it...cooking takes a lot of time and whatever i release is always about quality...patience please...
Q: What is the diference between COM2/COM4/WMD/XYZ branch?
A: the most noticeble is until COM2 its old style (WM61) above COM3 its new style (WM65X with bottom buttons)...the rest, have no idea...
Q: Whats the difference between 3D and non3D version?
A: they differ in the drivers...as name says...one has opengl drivers and less 16Mb of ram because of them...the other has not and 16Mb more than 3D version of same rom...the rest is the same (programs/tweaks/customization)...and no you cant install P3D Drivers on non3D rom cause it will break compatibility...
Q: Is there any diference in speed between 3D and non3D version?
A: simple answer...yes, thanks to gfxboost that is included. but at a cost of 16Mb of RAM for DDI drivers...so that means programs (some) can be crashing because of lack of...opera/youtube are 2 of them...but i also wouldn't call non3D slow at least wm6.1 wise...you'll be the judge...
Q: Tested incoming /outgoing calls... but cannot speak or hear...plus camera all black...whats wrong?
A: You have the wrong radio version installed...change it! radio 1.59.xx.xx and above should work...
Q: Can i run manila 2.1/2.5/2.6 on my polaris?
A: Yes you could if someone made the port (someone like me)...but...you will never see it running simply because there isnt enough RAM/ROM to handle it, there are no fully working opengl drivers...and like so...our polaris simply doesn't meet the minimum sys specs to be able to fully run manila 3D...even if someone wanted to make the port...id just say: just buy a HD2! its cheap compared with the all work you'll have ahead...
reserved post #5
@ pcarvalho
I think ... that your rom have more ram available.
Sorry for that but i have only one Polaris for testing (with your rom inside now)so i don't remember exactly the ammount of ram.
And something else...Why the progressive bar (in abum video) always missing in all the latest roms?
kostas244 said:
@ pcarvalho
I think ... that your rom have more ram available.
Sorry for that but i have only one Polaris for testing (with your rom inside now)so i don't remember exactly the ammount of ram.
And something else...Why the progressive bar (in abum video) always missing in all the latest roms?
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must be some wm6.5 compatability issue...i didn't change anything there...
Everything is working fine for me!
1 thing. the sound is different then other roms. when i play music it is a bit low.. not low volume but sounds very low, no high tones.
ive installed wow srs hd and now its fine.
good job! will keep this for a while!
so it works without any radio upgrade.... if i not mistaken, it is the shipped radio version....
thx anyway...
Maybe we have a problem with Quick gps...i push the button but nothing happens.
kostas244 said:
Maybe we have a problem with Quick gps...i push the button but nothing happens.
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i also tested it and it was (and still is) working...
I have downloaded TranMinhMan's latest. But it looks like there is no need to flash that and test after the tests done as above by you people. Thanks. Now using pcarvalho's 6.5 with radio 1.58.32.33. (quick GPS not working)
Well, in the morning I've tested TranMinhMan's ROM, now pcarvalho's ROM. I've been using Win 6.5 since the first ROM I found and I must say, I'm delight with the progress so far. In TranminhMan, with 3.13 drivers from the total of 84 MB, I think free was around 40-45.
@pcharvalho: great great job. I'm using Radio 1.65.xx.xx and everything works fine. Indeed, video is working on Album. The battery drain ain't big, so I guess you enabled some power savings in registry. I installed a battery metter and works great.
Some suggestions for the next ROM:
1. Include KeyLock.cab for those who want to enable hardware buttons when device is lock
2. Include DeviceLock1.2.cab. It creates a shortcut to Lock function and this shortcut can be mapped to a hardware button.
3. WM6.5 Titanium Weather tab would be a nice addition.
4. SyncroTime is always needed
5. PIM Backup is always needed
6. Toggle Wifi On/Off: AKToogleWiFi.cab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2868203&postcount=1) It creates a shortcut in start menu to enable/disable WiFi with one click. By the way, what is the default wifi protocol enabled b ? g ?
This is the begining of a new era for Polaris. The device keeps getting smoother and smoother. I'm really glad that finally we have a cooker on xda for win 6.5 Polaris Roms. You have made my day pcharvalho. Looking forward for new releases. Thank you. Respect.
02xda2 said:
I have downloaded TranMinhMan's latest. But it looks like there is no need to flash that and test after the tests done as above by you people. Thanks. Now using pcarvalho's 6.5 with radio 1.58.32.33. (quick GPS not working)
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could you please elaborate on the quickgps not working...doesn't start? doesn't download? certificate error? something else? so i can check that out
alinescoo said:
Well, in the morning I've tested TranMinhMan's ROM, now pcarvalho's ROM. I've been using Win 6.5 since the first ROM I found and I must say, I'm delight with the progress so far. In TranminhMan, with 3.13 drivers from the total of 84 MB, I think free was around 40-45.
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that gives mine 10-15 more and thats always nice
alinescoo said:
@pcharvalho: great great job. I'm using Radio 1.65.xx.xx and everything works fine. Indeed, video is working on Album. The battery drain ain't big, so I guess you enabled some power savings in registry. I installed a battery metter and works great.
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good to know that radio 1.65.xx.xx works
alinescoo said:
Some suggestions for the next ROM:
1. Include KeyLock.cab for those who want to enable hardware buttons when device is lock
2. Include DeviceLock1.2.cab. It creates a shortcut to Lock function and this shortcut can be mapped to a hardware button.
3. WM6.5 Titanium Weather tab would be a nice addition.
4. SyncroTime is always needed
5. PIM Backup is always needed
6. Toggle Wifi On/Off: AKToogleWiFi.cab (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2868203&postcount=1) It creates a shortcut in start menu to enable/disable WiFi with one click. By the way, what is the default wifi protocol enabled b ? g ?
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will take that into account next time...
plus i just found fixes for video problems including youtube
Just a quick edit. The Radio doesn't work well. First call works, the second doesnt.
alinescoo said:
Just a quick edit. The Radio doesn't work well. First call works, the second doesnt.
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use the one i recommend then...cheers
maybe a fix for quick gps
Hello, this is maybe a fix for quick gps.
Install an task manager and terminate then "QuickGPS.exe". After this step maybe you can start it. This was a Problem from previouse Roms from TranMinhMan, but after this step it wokrs for me,
Baybe this trick works on this Rom too. I'll test it later.
Sry for my bad english.
pcarvalho said:
how was the RAM on 3.13 drivers?
cheers
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did you mod the nk.exe to get more RAM? interesting ...downloading now
psx2pal said:
Hello, this is maybe a fix for quick gps.
Install an task manager and terminate then "QuickGPS.exe". After this step maybe you can start it. This was a Problem from previouse Roms from TranMinhMan, but after this step it wokrs for me,
Baybe this trick works on this Rom too. I'll test it later.
Sry for my bad english.
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Yeeeeesss!!!! I confirm. It's working with that trick
If you need a 3g Dialer ...Combo_HTC_3G_Dialer_V1....It's working too !!
Has the Touch HD hardware ever changed? IOW, would a recent purchase be the exact same hardware as when they first came out with updates only being in soft/firmware?
AFAICT, the THD comes with TouchFlo3D 2.1, but there are now 2.5 and even 2.6 versions kicking around that offer good reasons to want to upgrade. But how?
I see new ROMS that include later versions, but is it necessary to install an entirely new ROM? What does TF3D include? There's manilla.exe, but are there any other actual files? Would it not be possible to simply install a later version of manilla without having to change everything else?
Will 2.5 and 2.6 run on WM6(.1) or do they require 6.5?
Just trying to get a handle on potential upgrades (once I actually get hold of a THD - still looking).
UKenGB said:
Has the Touch HD hardware ever changed? IOW, would a recent purchase be the exact same hardware as when they first came out with updates only being in soft/firmware?
AFAICT, the THD comes with TouchFlo3D 2.1, but there are now 2.5 and even 2.6 versions kicking around that offer good reasons to want to upgrade. But how?
I see new ROMS that include later versions, but is it necessary to install an entirely new ROM? What does TF3D include? There's manilla.exe, but are there any other actual files? Would it not be possible to simply install a later version of manilla without having to change everything else?
Will 2.5 and 2.6 run on WM6(.1) or do they require 6.5?
Just trying to get a handle on potential upgrades (once I actually get hold of a THD - still looking).
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There would be no hardware changes between first HD released and latest one. Only difference would be rom installed on device which would be an upgrade incorporating a few fixes. This would still be wm6.1.
Wm6.5 is only available through a cooked rom.
To upgrade to a new manila, you will need to flash a rom which has this available (generally a cooked rom). Only rom that I know of which has manila 2.5 on wm6.1 is Miri's. But it does appear to have some limitations due to incompatibilities between wm6.1 and manila 2.5.
Latest manila's are more touch friendly and also have landscape capabilities whereas earlier version did not.
Thanks for that, but why would you HAVE to install a new ROM just to update TouchFlo3D? If it IS just manilla.exe, then why not simply install that new file? OK, I guess there's a bit more to it, but why an entirely new ROM?
Manila isn't only manila.exe file: the UI has more then 1000 files... and it's stable if you flash ROMs.
D'rath
PS: Manila 2.5/6 is a beta version quite slow and sometime freeze (I tried Miri ROM)
OK, sounds reasonable. But how can 2.5 still be beta if there's 2.6?
I am trying to make my taskbar/clock etc transparent but have had no success so far. I have a TP2 with winmo 6.5. Does anyone know how I find out what version manilla I have (IDK what manilla is tbh) and what version Touch Flo, also, do I have sense? and if so, what version sense I have?
It sounds noobish I know but I'm really stuck here, thanks for your help.
Manila Version
Settings->System->Device Information->Software Information it should tell you the manila version in there...
is it my rom version? 1.186.161.0 (67102) WWE. if so, which is the important part?
Manila Version
Here is a screen shot.... should say something like manila version 2.1.1920...
hmm, I don't have a software information page anywhere, just device info, hardware, identity and call duration.
Grimlocc said:
hmm, I don't have a software information page anywhere, just device info, hardware, identity and call duration.
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The same problem here. Mine is a TP2 WWE with Stock 6.5 ROM. I dont have the software information page as you do. Gave up looking for this info
Grimlocc said:
I am trying to make my taskbar/clock etc transparent but have had no success so far. I have a TP2 with winmo 6.5. Does anyone know how I find out what version manilla I have (IDK what manilla is tbh) and what version Touch Flo, also, do I have sense? and if so, what version sense I have?
It sounds noobish I know but I'm really stuck here, thanks for your help.
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did you flash a cooked rom or are you using a stock one?
in the manila homescreen, scroll to settings, scroll down to about phone and click, click software infomation, and theres your manila version.
Mine doesn't show either and it's a Portuguese stock ROM...
OK...I think I've found how to locate the version of Manilla. It's in the registry. So find a registry editor for your phone. I CANNOT stress the importance of NOT CHANGING ANYTHING unless you know what you're doing.
That said, the following registry key contains the Manila Version:
\HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Version
IE mine is 2.1.19213017.1
Well, I searched the forum and checked my phone, so pardon me if this has been discussed before.
I'm using the T-Mobile WM 6.5 Stock ROM, version 1.91.531.3 (74508) WWE. Does anyone know how to determine which version of Sense is installed? I'm thinking it may be 2.1 rather than 2.5.
I"m asking because I'm considering installing some of the themes, and I want to download the correct ones.
**UPDATE**
I have found references that say it is 2.1, but I'd still like to know how to find out. The Settings menu "About" only brings up an HTML file in IE, and does not mention any sense version information.
stevedebi said:
Well, I searched the forum and checked my phone, so pardon me if this has been discussed before.
I'm using the T-Mobile WM 6.5 Stock ROM, version 1.91.531.3 (74508) WWE. Does anyone know how to determine which version of Sense is installed? I'm thinking it may be 2.1 rather than 2.5.
I"m asking because I'm considering installing some of the themes, and I want to download the correct ones.
**UPDATE**
I have found references that say it is 2.1, but I'd still like to know how to find out. The Settings menu "About" only brings up an HTML file in IE, and does not mention any sense version information.
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Have you looked at Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information? I'm on a custom rom, so I don't know how it looks on Stock, but it may list Manila version there.
But it is 2.1 -- for sure (on T-Mo USA).
I don't believe that the stock Tmo 6.5 ROM has anywhere that it flat out states "sense 2.x" (or if it does I can't find it anywhere).
However, in system settings you can just choose "about", and there it says that the build is 21881, which is a Sense 2.1 build.
EDIT: and since you're looking at installing some themes, etc, it actually helps to know which exact build you have, since even on 2.1 some of the themes and other visual elements actually work on some 2.1 builds but not others (I've run into this a few times since upgrading to 6.5 this past weekend). It's usually listed in the threads which builds are ok or aren't.
MCbrian said:
Have you looked at Settings>System>Device Information>Software Information? I'm on a custom rom, so I don't know how it looks on Stock, but it may list Manila version there.
But it is 2.1 -- for sure (on T-Mo USA).
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There is no "Software Tab", only Hardware.
sirphunkee said:
I don't believe that the stock Tmo 6.5 ROM has anywhere that it flat out states "sense 2.x" (or if it does I can't find it anywhere).
However, in system settings you can just choose "about", and there it says that the build is 21881, which is a Sense 2.1 build.
EDIT: and since you're looking at installing some themes, etc, it actually helps to know which exact build you have, since even on 2.1 some of the themes and other visual elements actually work on some 2.1 builds but not others (I've run into this a few times since upgrading to 6.5 this past weekend). It's usually listed in the threads which builds are ok or aren't.
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Thanks for the information, it is 21881. I just noticed in the ROM thread that the ROM shipped in August of 2009 had a later version of WM than my "upgrade" OS dated 19 Dec 09. That is very strange. Also, that August version had a different type of Sense; evidently the settings tab actually showed the Sense version.
stevedebi said:
Thanks for the information, it is 21881. I just noticed in the ROM thread that the ROM shipped in August of 2009 had a later version of WM than my "upgrade" OS dated 19 Dec 09. That is very strange. Also, that August version had a different type of Sense; evidently the settings tab actually showed the Sense version.
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If it's the T-mobile ROM you're talking about, the one "shipped" back in Aug was the originial WM 6.1 ROM that came on all T-mobile TP2's, before the 6.5 upgrade showed up. That 6.1 ROM didn't have sense on it at all actually, it had what was known as "TF3D 2.1"...which does cause a lot of confusion with sense 2.1. The version numbers assigned to the builds don't always increase over time the way you might suspect, so it could look like that previous version is a "later" build if you just look at the build numbers.
Oh, and yes, in that 6.1 ROM (which I was running up until this past weekend), the TF3D version was listed right on the "settings" tab....no idea why it's not there anymore.
Been trying to figure out my Sense version as I have had problems with HDWall and Facebook tab and others.
This thread has some of the information I need and now tells me that I do not have Sense 2.1.
I have a Touch Pro 2 running: TF3D: CE OS 5.2.21854 (21854.5.0.80).
If sense 2.1 = 21881 what is 21854?
And how can I upgrade it? is it possible to upgrade without using a ROM?
Cheers for your help
G
grymcent said:
Been trying to figure out my Sense version as I have had problems with HDWall and Facebook tab and others.
This thread has some of the information I need and now tells me that I do not have Sense 2.1.
I have a Touch Pro 2 running: TF3D: CE OS 5.2.21854 (21854.5.0.80).
If sense 2.1 = 21881 what is 21854?
And how can I upgrade it? is it possible to upgrade without using a ROM?
Cheers for your help
G
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No, the "21854" is the Windows build number, that is separate from sense. However I discovered that the easiest way to tell 2.1 from w.5 is that 2.5 has shortcuts on the home tab; boxes with a "+" mark, that you can assign to shortcuts.
If you are running US Tmobile, there is an upgrade to WM 6.5 and Sense 2.1. I'm not sure about other carriers. Or you can flash a ROM...
grymcent said:
Been trying to figure out my Sense version as I have had problems with HDWall and Facebook tab and others.
This thread has some of the information I need and now tells me that I do not have Sense 2.1.
I have a Touch Pro 2 running: TF3D: CE OS 5.2.21854 (21854.5.0.80).
If sense 2.1 = 21881 what is 21854?
And how can I upgrade it? is it possible to upgrade without using a ROM?
Cheers for your help
G
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According to the list of stock roms in the wiki, 21854 is a WM 6.5 build that was distributed by most every carrier in europe, so I would also presume that it already has sense 2.1. Is there Weather in your home clock? The last manila version prior to sense 2.1 was tf3d 2.1, which I don't think you have, and it's easy to spot due to it's lack of weather on the home tab.
sirphunkee said:
According to the list of stock roms in the wiki, 21854 is a WM 6.5 build that was distributed by most every carrier in europe, so I would also presume that it already has sense 2.1. Is there Weather in your home clock? The last manila version prior to sense 2.1 was tf3d 2.1, which I don't think you have, and it's easy to spot due to it's lack of weather on the home tab.
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I do not have weather on the Home Tab. it has a Tab on TF3D but the Home Tab just has the flip clock call history/calendar list.
So it sounds like I have a lower version of Sense? and the only way to change that is ROM upgrade right?
Cheers
G
grymcent said:
I do not have weather on the Home Tab. it has a Tab on TF3D but the Home Tab just has the flip clock call history/calendar list.
So it sounds like I have a lower version of Sense? and the only way to change that is ROM upgrade right?
Cheers
G
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yes, that's TouchFlo3D 2.1, the last thing that Manila was before it became sense, and there's nowhere near the options for it that exist with Sense 2.1 etc.
Generally the only way to upgrade your sense version is to flash a rom that has it on there. There is some experimentation going on with a cab version of Sense 2.5, you can read about it starting with post #9 in THIS thread...but they're trying to upgrade from Sense 2.1 to 2.5, I have no idea if it'll work at all going from TF3D to Sense 2.5.