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Method of flashing?

Which is the best way to flash the Leo now?
Some chefs recommend flashing back to an original rom then to a custom.
Now we have a working HSPL, until now Bepe's custom RUU was used for flashing just the OS part (and this util is still part of the Rom's on here). Do we now no longer use this and use UDK's customRUU instead?
It just seems that when I flash one custom rom over another and one over that one etc etc, I always end up with strange rom results :-/

jonboyuk said:
It just seems that when I flash one custom rom over another and one over that one etc etc, I always end up with strange rom results :-/
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I would of thought that problems with ROMS are due more to them all being new and the chefs trying to iron out the bugs....I ended up going through most of the roms available on the site until I found one that worked for me.
The only time I install an official rom is if I have problems booting and am not able to get activesync working otherwise I just go straight over the top of whatever rom is on my device and then hard reset before booting up for the first time.

Awesome! Good advice, thank you!

Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?

chris_ah1 said:
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
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I believe that the micro sd card should be formated FAT32. Just remember that when you flash an offical ROM, it will also remove the HSPL so you will need to reinstall it.
chris_ah1 said:
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
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I only use SSPL, but I've got a Goldcard in case of problems.....just follow the guides and without the goldcard, it's a good idea to make sure that HSPL is installed so you've got a way to revert back if you have any problems. Hope that explains it a bit better

Yep, that's precisely what I thought. thanks for confirming it.
I understand that some regulars are getting irritated by general newbie questions but sometimes it is good just to confirm and understanding of how it all works before hosing a device and then asking stupid qs on how to fix rather than posting how great a new ROM is
sadly I'm a bit too lazy to do the goldcard thing. But I might get one done for safety.

chris_ah1 said:
Ok, just to piggyback on this. As a first time flasher (without the HD2 as yet), have i got this correct:
a) Install HSPL so I can install 1.48 or 1.61 onto my 1.43 device without goldcard by placing the HTC Rom on a FAT16 microsd card as leoimg.nbh? Then should i want to do that again I will have to re-install hspl?
b) For cooked roms, install HSPL, then use SSPL to install cooked rom. Should it all go wrong I can then put back my stock 1.61 ROM onto a sd card and voila back to work without goldcard?
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You do not need any sspl to install a cooked rom when you've hspl'ed your leo.
You can revert back to the original spl by using the sd card method with a stock rom.

chris_ah1 said:
Yep, that's precisely what I thought. thanks for confirming it.
I understand that some regulars are getting irritated by general newbie questions but sometimes it is good just to confirm and understanding of how it all works before hosing a device and then asking stupid qs on how to fix rather than posting how great a new ROM is
sadly I'm a bit too lazy to do the goldcard thing. But I might get one done for safety.
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too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.

Svenvdmeer said:
too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
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Am i bad, just trying to help. Still all they were after was some reassurence they wouldn't brick there device and what i said was at worst long winded.
Didn't see anyone else rushing to help.

So are we supposed to use UDK's RUU utility to flash now?

Svenvdmeer said:
too bad you got the wrong answer. there is no need for sspl or goldcard after you use HSPL. with that you can install official and custom roms. you don't have to install hspl again. just the once. UNLESS you install a official ROM with the SD card method. that will overwrite HSPL with the original (locked) SPL. you can flash a original ROM over usb. this will leave the hspl intact.
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So no cooked ROM will over-write HSPL?
ah, good. I just saw some ROm page (i think Xannytech) which said use only SSPL.
I dunno - it's all a bit technical for a first timer. perhaps i should stick to official updates and CABs for now.

Hopefully someone can put down some clear methods/ways for the new people, as there seems to be a lot of conflicting ideas (or maybe i'm imagining it).
I just tried flashing stock 1.61 to my 1.48 Leo, (after installing HSPL, which seemed to install fine).
I done a bad flash though (for whatever reason) as the phone just went in to perpetual rebooting after the update utility completed. Just managed to get it started by reflashing 1.48 back on to it.

Well here is the issue Hskalay:
You are meant to be able to uninstall HSPL...but some say that flashing a stock rom does not uninstall it.
Some say that cooked roms include SPL.nbh and that it will overwrite HSPL. In fact some rom cookers have said in their posts to only use SSPL and not sd flashing via leoimg.nbh and HSPL. However others say that cooked ROMS do not (and should not) overwrite the HSPL.
From what I have gathered without clear consensus is that as long as HSPL is on the device, ANY rom can be installed from the sd card - cooked or official. Without HSPL you NEEDED goldcard. With HSPL you can still use goldcard but it isnt essential, as long as HSPL works and boots.
From what I have read, it appears that HSPL is a bootloader like GRUB or windows boot loader or LILO. The difference from SSPL is that HSPL gets written to the boot sector, and SSPL is a temporary fix as if you installed GRUB/LILO to your linux system partition and had the stock bootloader in the boot sector point to it to boot.
Goldcard: you dont need a working bootloader (Bepe's HSPL or stock), you dont need a working ROM.
HSPL: you need a working bootloader (i.e HSPL of course), you dont need a working ROM.
SSPL: you need working rom, and working bootloader.
If you ever over-write your Bepe HSPL you will need to put it back on. hence it is not a once only deal. However, it appears as said that it is not over-written.

Thanks for your reply Chris.
With HSPL - Do the rom HAVE to be installed via the SD card? Or can they be launch and installed from the PC (via USB). ie install HSPL to the phone, and then running the standard update program for say, 1.48 to 1.61 (which needed goldcard previously if I am correct).

Right just tested everything out this morning. Installed HSPL.
Can run installs either using CustomRUU or SSPLRUU tools either leaving the phone in active sync or in the boot loader menu by holding down Vol Down key.
To install new Radio ROM just use CustomRUU as this won't wipe your device
and just install the radio. There is a tread with all the Radio only roms here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Also wiped HSPL by installing original O2 ROM and this did clear the HSPL. To install original ROM, just copy the nbh to the device, rename it to LEOIMG.nbh and then reboot into the Bootloader and it will then reinstall the rom. Just to let you know I got some wiered error when doing this and it restarted the update and then completed. Hope this helps
It's been said that at the moment you shouldn't install custom ROMs by copying the nbh files to your memory card.
Update:
To reinstall HSPL again after flashing original ROM, I had to remove my memory card or it would not work.

$25 reward to fix my phone. Problems for over 45 days.

I won't bother with the exact history of things but I'll tell you what's on the phone and what I can't get to work.
SPL-2.00. 10000 XE
Radio 2.06.50.04
ROM Leo lite 2.6 WE (21892.5.0.89)
Current ROM works until I try to do anything involving phone radio and then it just locks up. My radio is not up to date for this ROM I assume.
Trying to flash anything at all via LEOIMG microsd card does nothing but sit at the Loading.... screen with never any progress. (I have also tried this with a goldcard that somebody made me and I get the same error.) Have used both a 16gb card and a 2gb card, all formatted to fat32
I am unable to flash a new ROM or new Radio or get the SPL to allow any OEM ROM/SPL package to install via SDcard.
Trying to flash anything with the standard flasher tool and it never did anything but time out. SSPL used to work but now it does nothing but time out. I'm stuck on this ROM, can't change it and phone doesn't work.
What I would like to do is get HSPL back on it, the most current radio and the latest US T-Mobile ROM
If you can help me do this I will pay $25 for the person to help me get it off my phone. There is a chance my goldcard could have been made incorrectly, I don't know anything about them. I can pay you via PayPal or mail you a check, whatever works for you. All I can do is give you my word that I will keep my end of the deal. I'm a 44 year old family man and a department manager of a casino. I would really appreciate any help.
If I posted this in the wrong place please move it but I'm at wits end and just want my phone back to normal.
Edit: Just to be clear, the $25 reward is for getting the SPL 2.0 off of my phone and/or getting me upgraded to the latest radio so I can run the most current TmoUSA ROM properly.

the problem appears to be that you have slightly different hardware to every one else.
didnt realise you were having issues with sspl, that at least should work ok. by time out do you mean there sspl boot screen appears burt nothing else?
if so what happens if you disconnect the usb cable and plug it back in?
if it changes to usb then rerun the sspl without changing anything on the hd2
you could also try - and uninstall the windows drivers for the qualcomm cdma drivers or whatever they are called on you pc. and reconnect in boot loader to let them reinstall.

SSPL used to work, it stopped working after I flashed a newer rom to play with. When I use the SSPL it goes into the bootloader screen just fine, then I hear the USB disconnect sound and the SSPL program times out quickly with the exit button citing no connection.
I have 2 x Windows 7 64 bit computers, 1 x Windows 7 32 bit and one XP 32 bit computer. I get the same results on any of them. All after the most recent ROM upgrade.
I have not tried running SSPL from boot loader screen, did not know that was possible. Trying that now. Just need to download a known working ROM.
If that works I'll be back in the same boat as before, stuck with 2.0 SPL and 2.06 radio. I want that SPL 2.0 off my phone badly.

OK, trying SSPL from the bootloader screen got me a little further towards ROM flashing. I can see the htc on the black screen with the progress bar. It now sits at 0% with no movement indefinitely.
Going to try another ROM and see if I can get the ROM installation to actually begin.

If you still haven't tried it do this: start SSPL when you hear the USB disconnect sound remove the USB cable (either from device or PC) and then connect it again! this should allow the SSPL to enter USB mode! I've had similar problems long ago and this trick was doing the job! Not sure that it will help you but just a thought!

Newb here:
I had something similar. I installed HSPL and everything was fine thereafter. The radio wouldn't flash any other way, in fact it would disconnect like you said, or if I manualy took the phone to boot loader, it would stick at 0%.
There is a HSPL thread stickied in the ROM section and I believe it explains how to remove it if you need to "re" validate your warranty. Although reading once more it does say you need SPL 1.42 to get it to install.
Have you tried installing an official HTC ROM downlaoded from their site? This will take you back to the original SPL version 1.42...

I don't have HSPL on my phone, I have SPL 2.0 Nothing is out currently to remove a later SPL with the exception of flashing an OEM full package ROM through the sd card but that doesn't work for me.
I have tried multiple roms now using SSPL from the bootloader screen and none will move the progress bar past 0%
Still stuck. : - (

Have you tried to hard spl it? If I missed it in your post, I apologize.

Not in a long while, I should try again I guess but I was totally under the impression that HSPL will error all the time unless you have SPL 1.42 installed on the phone.
Edit: Just tried and it errors because SPL 1.42 is not on the phone, it's the only SPL that HSPL works on as far as I know.

balane have you tried installing a stock rom from your SD card? this would revert the spl back to 1.42 and allow you to then flash HSPL (I think, almost certain) but you said you cant do anything with the sd card, have you tried that? have you tried with different SD cards? also have you made sure that it is formatted to FAT32?
Another thing you could try if all else fails: MTTY, look at the MTTY thread by MystikGenius, its stickied in the rom development section, this will format your phone from which you can then try to flash from usb or sd. I would recomend trying to flash from SD which then again may revert your spl.
Im going to school now so I wont be able to help you anymore 8 or so hours, but PM me later if your still stuck.

I may be wrong but from what I read in the threads I thought it was not possible to go back to anything under 2.0 once you flash a 2.0 SPL. You can't flash back to 1.48 or 1.66. You might be able to flash the new TMOUS which is in the 2.0 SPL range.

Yes, I've tried dozens of stock roms from the sdcard, every one I could find in fact and they all hang at the Loading... screen. As stated in the op, I used two different cards both formatted to fat32. I guess I could try a third card, not sure if it's worth a try or not.
I looked at MTTY but that doesn't do a thing with SPL and my SPL is the root of my issues.
Update: I finally did find a ROM I could get flashed via SSPL. It took like 3 tries to get the progress bar going but it did get installed. I can't even recall what series of events got it to go but at least my phone turns on and works.
Still the same SPL and radio though. No change there.

bobsbbq said:
I may be wrong but from what I read in the threads I thought it was not possible to go back to anything under 2.0 once you flash a 2.0 SPL. You can't flash back to 1.48 or 1.66. You might be able to flash the new TMOUS which is in the 2.0 SPL range.
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I could have swore I read some people who were able to get the SPL 2.0 off their phones but I could be mistaken. I'm actually ok with any SPL as long as I can sspl different ROMs. I just want to get the radio current so I can run the latest TmoUS ROM, I would totally and 100% pleased with being able to update the radio. I have found now way to flash a more current radio.

balane said:
I won't bother with the exact history of things but I'll tell you what's on the phone and what I can't get to work.
SPL-2.00. 10000 XE
Radio 2.06.50.04
ROM Leo lite 2.6 WE (21892.5.0.89)
Current ROM works until I try to do anything involving phone radio and then it just locks up. My radio is not up to date for this ROM I assume.
Trying to flash anything at all via LEOIMG microsd card does nothing but sit at the Loading.... screen with never any progress. (I have also tried this with a goldcard that somebody made me and I get the same error.) Have used both a 16gb card and a 2gb card, all formatted to fat32
I am unable to flash a new ROM or new Radio or get the SPL to allow any OEM ROM/SPL package to install via SDcard.
Trying to flash anything with the standard flasher tool and it never did anything but time out. SSPL used to work but now it does nothing but time out. I'm stuck on this ROM, can't change it and phone doesn't work.
What I would like to do is get HSPL back on it, the most current radio and the latest US T-Mobile ROM
If you can help me do this I will pay $25 for the person to help me get it off my phone. There is a chance my goldcard could have been made incorrectly, I don't know anything about them. I can pay you via PayPal or mail you a check, whatever works for you. All I can do is give you my word that I will keep my end of the deal. I'm a 44 year old family man and a department manager of a casino. I would really appreciate any help.
If I posted this in the wrong place please move it but I'm at wits end and just want my phone back to normal.
Edit: Just to be clear, the $25 reward is for getting the SPL 2.0 off of my phone and/or getting me upgraded to the latest radio so I can run the most current TmoUSA ROM properly.
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My English is not good. But I can help you. You can refer here ( in post 18&19) and use google to translate language :
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.p...KHI-UP-ROM-TMOUS-BẢN-TEST-(2-07)-BẰNG-THẺ-NHỚ
I have successfully repaired (with any Goldcard ) HD2 damaged when the flash rom TMOUS with memory card . And now can flash with any rom that is the base rom from 2:07 or higher (with SSPL)
Sorry for my bad English

balane said:
I don't have HSPL on my phone, I have SPL 2.0 Nothing is out currently to remove a later SPL with the exception of flashing an OEM full package ROM through the sd card but that doesn't work for me.
I have tried multiple roms now using SSPL from the bootloader screen and none will move the progress bar past 0%
Still stuck. : - (
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No it won't be SSPL as we know it, the HTC stock ROM you can download from their site (Google "HTC HD2 DOWNLOAD") will use it's own method of getting onto your device and will reload SPL 1.42 for you. Although apparently you may not be able to do this with SPL 2. You say you have done it with a gold card, have you tried the stock rom downloaded from HTC via USB?
Otherwise, pester bepe for when the HSPL comes out that is compatible ywith SPL 2!

ancola66 said:
My English is not good. But I can help you. You can refer here ( in post 18&19) and use google to translate language :
http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.p...KHI-UP-ROM-TMOUS-BẢN-TEST-(2-07)-BẰNG-THẺ-NHỚ
I have successfully repaired (with any Goldcard ) HD2 damaged when the flash rom TMOUS with memory card . And now can flash with any rom that is the base rom from 2:07 or higher (with SSPL)
Sorry for my bad English
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Will not allow me to even read the forum because I'm not a member, can you copy paste the pertinent information here please?
You can use ANY goldcard???

mwillems2 said:
No it won't be SSPL as we know it, the HTC stock ROM you can download from their site (Google "HTC HD2 DOWNLOAD") will use it's own method of getting onto your device and will reload SPL 1.42 for you. Although apparently you may not be able to do this with SPL 2. You say you have done it with a gold card, have you tried the stock rom downloaded from HTC via USB?
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I've tried multiple OEM HTC Roms and all give the same stuck at Loading... screen. Is there a specific HTC oem ROM you can recommend I try?

balane said:
Will not allow me to even read the forum because I'm not a member, can you copy paste the pertinent information here please?
You can use ANY goldcard???
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YES ! You can use any Goldcard. I write instructions for you but my very bad English

balane said:
I've tried multiple OEM HTC Roms and all give the same stuck at Loading... screen. Is there a specific HTC oem ROM you can recommend I try?
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When you say oem, do you mean just the nbh with which you have tried to install using tools or the self extracting exe that HTC provide? I'm just asking cos to me, oem means it comes without all the manufacturers extras.

I've always been under the impression that the only way to downgrade an SPL was to install a complete OEM package ROM/Splash/Radio/SPL as a LEOIMG.nbh from the root of the SD card. I've tried dozens of these both from US based ROMs and abroad. None of gone past the Loading.... screen. I've tried 1.42 and above ROMs, no luck with any.

Telstra Rom - not flashing

Folks,
HD2 from Telstra ( 2nd May ) running 1.66. Tried flashing it with 1.48 and 1.43 Rom's -- so I could then go to HSPL and a custom Rom, but no luck.
The Rom Update Utility starts and tells me I have image version 1.72.841.0, I click to update to 1.43.405.1 ( or 1.48 - have tried both ), then the 4 colour screen which notes 1.66. Then it goes to a HTC screen with a deployment bar, gets to only 1%.......then boom - error 294 invalid vendor id.......
What am I missing here ??

you need to flash thedowngrade from sd card, then you can hspl, and THEN flash from usb

At least your effort got that far.... i couldnt even see the zip open.
OS 5.2.21869
Manila 2.5.20121431.1
Rom 1.72.841.0
If someone can confirm what I need to do with what i'd REALLY appreciate it.
Have the backup rom just incase already.

you missed out all the important info.
what zip can't you open? what phone? what you trying to achieve?
assuming telstra like the op,
1 right click the telstra 1.4 rom .exe choose unzip here, or extract here
2 find ruu signed.nbh copy it to sd card rename it leoimg.nbh
3 phone off hold vol down, tap and release power, keep holding voldown till you see three coloured screen, should quickly change grey and start a card flash.
4 when complete and phone restarts hold vol down to re enter bootloader
5 run hspl as administrator using a usb port round the back of the pc,
6 when it completes, and phone reboots, enter bootloader yet again, and check that it says spl 1.42.hspl.
now, so long as you don't sd card flash hspl will stay and protect against bad flashes, flash what you like.

tmenyweather said:
Folks,
HD2 from Telstra ( 2nd May ) running 1.66. Tried flashing it with 1.48 and 1.43 Rom's -- so I could then go to HSPL and a custom Rom, but no luck.
The Rom Update Utility starts and tells me I have image version 1.72.841.0, I click to update to 1.43.405.1 ( or 1.48 - have tried both ), then the 4 colour screen which notes 1.66. Then it goes to a HTC screen with a deployment bar, gets to only 1%.......then boom - error 294 invalid vendor id.......
What am I missing here ??
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What 1.48 and 1.43 roms did you try? They need to be Telstra roms, as you can't just use any 1.48 or 1.43 rom and this is what is causing the invalid vendor id error. Once you are back to 1.42.0000 spl (after flashing a telstra rom) you can then run hspl and are then free to flash what ever your heart desires.

I have a Telstra HD2 as well (1.66)...got it recently and will flash it soon.
I don't understand the original poster's concern - why go through all that to flash HSPL, when apparently HSPL2 can be easily flashed over 1.66...which allows you to further flash any ROM ??? Is there a benefit of HSPL over HSPL2 that I am missing?
Thanks in advance
edit: my bad, just read in the HSPL thread that HSPL2 does not work with the telstra hd2.

TyII said:
I have a Telstra HD2 as well (1.66)...got it recently and will flash it soon.
I don't understand the original poster's concern - why go through all that to flash HSPL, when apparently HSPL2 can be easily flashed over 1.66...which allows you to further flash any ROM ??? Is there a benefit of HSPL over HSPL2 that I am missing?
Thanks in advance
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keep reading, you still have lots to learn, hspl2 doesn't work on telstra.

Oh, my spl is 1.66.0000
I understand I must use HSPL (not HSPL2) on a Telstra ph. but can anyone recommend which rom to use? I've been reading for two days solid and can't decide!
I've copied all the guides etc so hopefully won't have a prob'... am just worried about warranty protection etc if it all goes pear shaped... i just want all this B.S. bloatware OFF MY phone!!!
Thanx in advance once again

I am in the same position, my Telstra ROM is 1.72 running SPL 1.66.0000.
HSPL utility tells me that "Model ID is invalid" or something like that.

okay, one more time.....
only the original hspl works on telstra,
hspl2 does not work. (bad model ID)
you need to downgrade to a 1.4 rom with spl 1.42.0000.
so, get the original telstra 1.49.8xx rom from HERE (registration required)
when its downloaded, move it to its own folder somewhere, then right click the .exe file and choose extract here. (if that option isnt available, install winrar)
when it has extracted, find teh file RUU_Signed.nbh, copy it to your sd card and rename it leoimg.nbh
restart your phone in bootloader mode, it should detect the leoimg.nbh and start to flash
this will reset your spl to 1.42.0000 and now you can use HSPL, and then flash any rom you like.

Thanks for the link to HTCpedia mate. I'd actually just found it myself by performing a thread search on the "Official HTC ROM's" thread. Downloading now.
Stupidly I've had problems after problems trying to get HSPL on my device. I actually started out on this ROM (1.49.x with SPL 1.42.0000). First I tried flashing from my Vista x64 machine, both HSPL2 and HSPL with errors, in my haste I thought I might need update to the latest Telstra ROM 1.72.x with SPL 1.66.0000 so I could use HSPL2 when in actual fact I just had the x64 USB driver problem, of course then the upgrade still didn't allow me to flash and made my situation harder as I had to find this original ROM again to downgrade.
Anyways I hope this works!

It works!
- flash rom back to 1.49.x with SPL 1.42.0000
- run HSPL with device connected via USB
- flash radio using CustomRUU
- flash ROM using CustomRUU

@rainey06au what Radio do you use with your Telstra HD2?

Got my Telstra HD2 running 1.49 last week and it's my first play with Windows Mobile .. couldn't wait to clear the Telstra image from the phone as my provider is Three.
Did plenty of reading and all the posts said to use the original HSPL first, this worked perfect first go.
Once done I tried the new Artemis_v110 rom, was very impressed except experienced 2 to 3 random reboots a day, even more while in YouTube player. Everything else woked well, reception, battery life, and clarity while on calls.
Decided yesterday to try another rom, first cleared all using Task29 format, then loaded HyperROM Ultimate v9.00 WM6.5.X but this didn't get through the first boot .. possibly due to radio required.
Now have flashed back to 1.48.4052 until I research some more.
Anyone recommend a rom and suitable radio for the Telstra HD2, anyone with Three?
Thankx

Thanks. Works a treat!
I knew I had to downgrade but couldn't find an old Telstra ROM.
samsamuel said:
you missed out all the important info.
what zip can't you open? what phone? what you trying to achieve?
assuming telstra like the op,
1 right click the telstra 1.4 rom .exe choose unzip here, or extract here
2 find ruu signed.nbh copy it to sd card rename it leoimg.nbh
3 phone off hold vol down, tap and release power, keep holding voldown till you see three coloured screen, should quickly change grey and start a card flash.
4 when complete and phone restarts hold vol down to re enter bootloader
5 run hspl as administrator using a usb port round the back of the pc,
6 when it completes, and phone reboots, enter bootloader yet again, and check that it says spl 1.42.hspl.
now, so long as you don't sd card flash hspl will stay and protect against bad flashes, flash what you like.
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I am also using Telstra HD2 and recently flashed it with Miri Rom. I like Miri because it doesn't have any customization. It has many versions to choose from, with and without Sense UI. It also retain all the original WM icons and themes which I like.
But like all ROMs, I do experience reboot but only once so far with the new version of Miri v17. One thing to note is the Radio version for the ROM. Make sure you flash the exact correct radio version, down to the sub version, e.g. 2.07.50 is recommended for Miri and not 2.07.51 (which is the Telstra radio version).
Another advise is always flash from pc, not SD card as I have experienced bad flash using SD card.
Hope this helps. Miri is only available from the HTCPedia site.

Yep my radio version is also 2.07.50. I get good battery life out of it using CleanEX_UDT HyperROM Ultra v9.00 (6.5).

I use Lia Glass ROM and FallOut Theme.
Interestingly this ROM and radio has only unlocked 455.54MB RAM, not the full 576MB. There are threads about this and getting the right combo will unlock the remaining RAM and/or improve battery performance.
I am using Radio 2.08.50.05.
Anyone else have the same experience?

ajt320 said:
I use Lia Glass ROM and FallOut Theme.
Interestingly this ROM and radio has only unlocked 455.54MB RAM, not the full 576MB. There are threads about this and getting the right combo will unlock the remaining RAM and/or improve battery performance.
I am using Radio 2.08.50.05.
Anyone else have the same experience?
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look in settings about phone hardware info ram size.
I bet it says 576
that's cos the hardware takes 128 for graphics.
look st a standard rom and hardware will show 448 whilst total available will show 336

Thanks samsamuel.
Hardware info does in fact say 576MB RAM
Thanks for the explanation - slowly but surely getting my head around the intricacies of the device

Reverting ROM

I did a little searching around the forums but some of the answers posted to similar questions didn't really help, plus most of them were links to other threads.
Ok so heres my situation:
I recently upgraded to 2.13xxxxxx ROM from the T-Mobile HD2 website. Im having difficulty with the touch sensitivity and i have tried a cab file someone posted that tweaks the registry. I guess it worked but anyways. Since Flashing and tweaking i decided i want to revert back to the Stock 2.10xxxxx ROM that came with my phone. I plan on Flashing with custom roms in the future.
My question is simply, what do i need to do to flash my rom from 2.13xxxx back to 2.10xxxx with stock radio 2.8xxxxx. I have visited xmoo's thread with stock roms but im still unsure of what im doing since i just got this HD2 recently.
Heres some additional info,
Currently i run:
2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE ROM
ROM Date: 4/28/10 (Leaked?)
Radio version: 2.10.50.26
When i updated my ROM from 2.10 to 2.13 i use the USB Active Sync method suggested on the Tmobile download website. I didn't flash from the SD Card
EDIT: I went into Bootloader mode and what i see is this:
SPL-2.10.0000 8G XE
Does that mean anything?
I heard a lot of talk about doing something to ur HSPL and SPL or something, but i have absolutely no idea wtf people are talking about lol.
So if someone could give me the details as to how i can flash my rom back to stock, that would be helpful. And yes, i have read the tutorial about flashing your first GSM, still dont get it.

flash via SD card
I did the same thing and what you need to do is take this link and make a folder somewhere and right click on the winrar file and extract here to the folder you made and take the nbh file and rename this (LEOIMG.nbh) and place it on your sd card make sure its on the root of the sd card and not in a folder.Here are some instruction i used.Good Luck,ping33tx P.S remember that you will have to redo the spl and run the hspl again,once that's done your home free to flashing till you get tired of it,lol.
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device
[ROM][6 May 10][V2.0][23568][B 2.10.1][Kumar's TMOUS HD2][Available in 3 Flavors]
Premium Version 2.0 with HTC messaging:
http://www.4shared.com/file/CRF3NcXL...V20_S2356.html

Thats awfully confusing for a first timer like myself. lol
And your link is broken... xD\
EDIT:
I did some searching and found some threads where peoples custom roms are BASE 2.13. Can i just flash those roms on my current version if i don't downgrade to 2.10? Cause if theres custom roms that works with my current version then im more than ok using those.
since im here, im a little confused with why some custom roms say, 6.5.5 or 6.5.X. Does that mean i need windows mobile 6.5.5 to use those roms or does it mean something else?
AND
Ive seen some custom roms that have a number like 23475 (for example), is that the OS build needed to run the rom or the Custom rom's build?
My current build is: 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Thank you everyone for your help!

Lahnas said:
I did some searching and found some threads where peoples custom roms are BASE 2.13. Can i just flash those roms on my current version if i don't downgrade to 2.10? Cause if theres custom roms that works with my current version then im more than ok using those.
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no, you always need hspl for custom roms.
since im here, im a little confused with why some custom roms say, 6.5.5 or 6.5.X. Does that mean i need windows mobile 6.5.5 to use those roms or does it mean something else?
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that's the winmoversion used in the rom. 6.5.3 and 6.5.5 are updates to the current released winmo, 6.5
i think 6.5.3 is just about being shipped but .5 isn't official yet.
the big difference is the start button on the bottom of screen and slightly more finger friendly menus.
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Ive seen some custom roms that have a number like 23475 (for example), is that the OS build needed to run the rom or the Custom rom's build?
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that's the windows build used in the rom. 21xxx is 6.5 and i think 23xxx is 6.5.3, but there are more than three builds.

Almost the similar issue
I had a stock tmobile hd2. I never did any customizations to the phone or any kind of hard spl. Today I installed the tmobile official update that set my SPL to 2.10 making it incompatible with the hardspl tool.
I want to just flash a stock rom through the sd card, and revert the spl back to 2.08 so it can be compatible with the hardspl tool and then I can install the energyROM.
I downloaded the 2.01 stock rom from the rom thread in the leo forum, and right before I was going to rename the file and flash the SD card I read a post above saying that if I revert this back to a stock SPL version, and then try to run hardSPL, I will brick my phone. Is that true??
Suggestions??

mattjirmanos said:
Almost the similar issue
I had a stock tmobile hd2. I never did any customizations to the phone or any kind of hard spl. Today I installed the tmobile official update that set my SPL to 2.10 making it incompatible with the hardspl tool.
I want to just flash a stock rom through the sd card, and revert the spl back to 2.08 so it can be compatible with the hardspl tool and then I can install the energyROM.
I downloaded the 2.01 stock rom from the rom thread in the leo forum, and right before I was going to rename the file and flash the SD card I read a post above saying that if I revert this back to a stock SPL version, and then try to run hardSPL, I will brick my phone. Is that true??
Suggestions??
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flash 2.10.0 from sd card to reset spl to 2.08

You don't need to flash 2.10.0 from sd card to reset from 2.10 SPL to 2.08 SPL. You can flash 2.10.0 over activesync (using the .exe linked to in xmoo's thread) and the SPL will be reverted to the 2.08 version.

Thank you to everyone who posted and a special thank you to samsamuel for clearing things up. Maybe this thread will come in handy for people wondering the same thing.

Gonna move you over to General, also closing since issue has been resolved..
Peace,
Joshua

Question about HardSPL, VERY important.

For the past week I've been on the fence as to whether or not I would keep my HD2, and for a couple of days I thought I was going to return it. I ended up finding the source of the problem I was having, and after really getting to understand the OS, I changed my mind.
I ran HardSPL and flashed to a couple of different ROMs, but after encountering similar issues with both cooked ROMs, I decided to flash to a stock ROM and try again. By this point, I was convinced I was going to return it, so I went ahead and flashed via microSD, uninstalling HSPL.
Now that I've decided to keep it, and figured out what was causing the problems, I would like to go back to one of the cooked ROMs (Dnik and Miri's.) I'm hesitant, because I read that reinstalling HSPL after flashing to stock SPL via microSD, I could brick my device. Is this true, or could I reinstall HSPL on my device, and start flashing ROM's again?
In the meantime, I'm making due with the stock ROM (with a bunch of tweaks installed,) and I'm cool with it, but I would much rather the one I was using before.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this!

Okay is there any reason why you went back to SPL using that method?
All you had to do is run the HSPL program and select part to SPL.
Now that you want to keep it the best thing I can tell you is to maybe go in as a warranty exchange so you don't risk it just make something up and since you have a normal SPL they should take it back.

I was actually thinking of doing that, but would rather not if I don't have to... you know?
I will keep it in mind, just in case.

First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..

glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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I was thinking the same, but it specifically says this in the tutorial on flashing for newbs. It sounds logical that if I flashed to a stock ROM with a hackable SPL version, I should be able to reinstall HardSPL... but I'm not taking the chance without confirmation.

glcK23 said:
First I heard of this...
I went to a HSPL'able rom with stock SPL, then I HSPL, task29, flashed new cooked rom, voila.
So if you return back to SPL from HSPL, then go back to HSPL, it could potentially skew your device??? Doesn't sound legit to me..
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If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry

rlacsamana1989 said:
If you read in this Thread by mskip ( senior Moderator) he explains on how to flash custom roms and if you flash a stock rom via microSD the HSPL2 would be over written by the SPL that is attached to the stock rom which means you would not be able to HSPL and could possibly brick the phone.
Flashing Via MicroSD Card
NOTE (PLEASE READ): If you flash a Stock Rom via microSD Card then it will overwrite your HardSPL with a stock SPL included in the nbh file. If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*) you will NOT be able to reinstall HardSPL onto your device and could end up bricking it. This does not apply to custom roms as they do not include an SPL. BE CAREFUL!!
1. Make sure your microSD is Formatted to fat32 (you dont have to delete all files but it is safer if you do)
2. Download your prefered Rom from the LEO Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your PC
3. Goto the Roms Folder and rename the .nbh file to LEOIMG.nbh
4. Copy the LEOIMG.nbh file to the root of your MicroSD Card
5. Plug the MicroSD Card into the phone
6. Reset the device while pressing the volume down button to enter the BootLoader screen, you will first see a tri-color screen with the phone and SPL Information at the top
7. Follow the On Screen instructions to start the update
8. After flash has completed, press the reset button with the stylus to reset the device.
Edit: & after reading that all over again to make sure I don't sound like a stupid idiot i still did. I guess as long as you did not install "If you flash a v2.01 or later Rom (with SPL2.*)" you will end up with an SPL so you will need to HSPL it again. Guess I should have read that more carefully sorry
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So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the "how to flash via microSD" sticky at the top of this forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.

gilla409 said:
So, are you confirming that flashing a stock ROM with a hackable SPL, then running HardSPL again will brick my phone?
I actually flashed to stock ROM 2.10.0 via microSD, then updated to latest stock ROM... if that makes any difference.
Edit- Just found this in the sticky at the top of this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681317
"If you are flashing an "Official" ROM direct from HTC or T-Mobile, you will more than likely over-write your SPL (Second Program Loader). This means, even if you have HSPL installed now, you could be reverted back to SSPL, rendering you unable to flash custom ROMs.
To make matters worse, if you flash an ROM higher than 2.10 and you attempt to install the current (as of 5/21/10) HSPL, you will brick your phone. Yeah, it's bad.
So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions:
(You do not have to have your phone connected to your PC for these steps)
Download the "Official" ROM from here. (Thanks to zelendel for the upload!)
Follow the instructions above to flash your phone with this image.
Once you phone has fully booted, I recommend doing an extra hard-reset.
Next, visit mskip's thread to download the latest HSPL and flash that (you can flash it either via RUU or via microSD).
If done properly you should now be able to once again flash custom ROMs. Congratulations!"
So, this contradicts what is in the "flashing for newbs" thread in the ROM development forum. Hopefully someone notices this and corrects the information accordingly... as this is can really intimidate new users.
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Well according to your post you updated a stock rom higher than 2.01 but I do not know if that rom had an SPL2 because then it would over write your HSPL2. that initially what you need to find out to see if that stock rom had an SPL2 attached to it.

If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.

Bumping this to the top, can anyone sort this out? Today is the last day of my buyer's remorse period, so I need to know if I should exchange my device or not.

gilla409 said:
If you read the quote above, it specifically says "So, assuming you have flashed an official ROM over 2.10 via the SD card and you decide you want a custom ROM, follow these simple directions." This obviously means that HSPL has been uninstalled, and is now SPL2. The link he gives for the "Official" ROM is 2.10... which you can use HardSPL on (which I had to do to flash in the first place, and worked fine.)
I believe the warning in the other tutorial is to warn users, and ensure they don't try to run HardSPL on a device with a ROM version later than 2.10 (which will brick your device.) If I'm reading correctly, this means that as long as I revert back to the stock 2.10 ROM, I can run HardSPL again safely.
This is exactly why I'm hoping someone in the know will shed some light on this subject, and set things straight.
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You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.

Nibbley15 said:
You are understanding this correctly.
If you run the 2.10 ROM from the SD card then it will remove the HSPL2 from your device (if it is the official version w/ SPL)
If you update to the 2.13 ROM from the SD card and it changes the SPL to 2.1 (the tri-colored screen), then DO NOT try to run HSPL2 (this is bad).
If you have 2.13 ROM installed and 2.1 (2.10) SPL installed onto your phone then you can install the 2.10 ROM and it should overwrite the SPL to 2.08.
Now you can install the HSPL2 again.
So to recap; get into your bootloader and find out what SPL you have 2.08 or 2.1; (You can install the 2.13 ROM without it updating the SPL).
2.08 and the word Couletta= you are good to go
2.08 and no Couletta = you can HSPL2 your phone
2.1 downgrade to the 2.10 ROM from the SD card before you even attempt to run HSPL2. and before you try make sure the bootloader shows 2.08!!
hopefully this clears it up for you.
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That clears things up perfectly, THANK YOU!
I'm getting ready to flash back to 2.10 now, and reinstall Dnik & Miri's ROM... so stoked!