so, I came across a problem with tcpmp a few weeks ago where the program wouldn't play video at a decent frame rate when installed to the phone storage.
which I find strange as I would have thought that running the program and reading the video from the same source would result in slow down its self!
so my question is, is the internal storage more slow than the memory card and if so could the storage of sms be moved to the sd card for speed improvements.
if this is the case then lots of other things could also be moved to the sd card!
your thoughts ?
hmmm
nobody interested in this?
I would hazard a guess that this is because the phone is running the player from the same source as the video is stored, so it can only access either the program, or the video file at any one time, not both together, so it accesses the system for a second, then the video, then the system, then the video,,, but if the video is on the card, it can access the system and the video at the same time.
that's the point
ill be more through
if the program is installed to the phone storage ie tcpmp installed to phone memory, then when you play a video it jogs! very low fps.
now if you installed the program to the memory card, which is where the video is stored also then its played a full fps
it is much much faster, so this either tells you the memory card can read files quicker than the phone storage or there is a problem with the phone storage talking to main memory.
that's my point! sms takes an age to load if you have more 20 message on the same thread. moving these messages to the storage card permanently may increase loading times of each thread.
try it your self with tcpmp you will get what I mean, the videos I'm using are dvd rips in avi format
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Hi, this is my first post believe it or not.
So: Hello Everyone.
This is the issue:
I use Media Player on my computer to access a Turkish Soccer TV Channel (Subscription Based). Since I purchased a T-Mobile branded Magician, and a WiFi SD Card, I would like to be able to watch it on my PDA, as well.
First problem: Media Player is trying to use the free space on the main memory to buffer. Therefore I get "Not enough storage is available to complete this operation." Also, when I am able to see video, it freezes every 2 seconds.
Second problem: I was not able to find any place to change buffer settings.
Question: How can I change these to enjoy high quality (367 Kbps) video on my PDA, for personal enjoyment and show off to others. Also, how can I configure the media player to use the free space on the SD not main memory?
Thank you.
You don't..
You do NOT want to use your SD cards memory for this..
The reason?
You have about 5 to 10 thousand write operations before the storage "cell" on the SD card is "worn out"..
Well, you do the math..
367kbps is a lot of data, many RW operations..
It would kill your SD card after a "short" time..
The only way to solve this is by using the RAMDISK patch, and use that as buffer memory..
If this is doable, I'm not sure..
Your other option is installing the translated 2003SE ROM, it has WMP10..
I couldn't find the patch on the ftp server. Could you tell me under which directory it is located?
Thank you.
Should be under the WM2005 directory..
I don't have access to port 21 right now, so I cant confirm anything..
Search for "RAMDISK" and "BUZZ"...
Then you'll find the files and instructions..
hi. everytime i play an mp3/wav that's stored on my storage card, windows media player gives me an error message 10 seconds into the song. it says "not enough storage is available to complete this operation." I have a 2 GB storage card that is only 9% full, my program memory has 20MB free and my phone storage is 22MB.. when i copy the song to the main memory, windows media player plays the song without a hitch. any suggestions?
thanks,
I am recieving the same error on my Windows Mobile phone (VW 6800, DCD 3.04, WM 6.1)
I also have a 2 GB storage card, I have MP3's at various bitrates and get the same error. I have tried a soft-reset, have 27 MB of free ram, and I still get this error.
When I use coreplayer, I can play the music without issue.
Anyone have any ideas?
hi. everytime i play an mp3/wav that's stored on my storage card, windows media player gives me an error message 10 seconds into the song. it says "not enough storage is available to complete this operation." I have a 2 GB storage card that is only 9% full, my program memory has 20MB free and my phone storage is 22MB.. when i copy the song to the main memory, windows media player plays the song without a hitch. any suggestions?
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Sup guys and/or girls,
I think I have an idea of whats happening here...and a solution to it...When you get this message
"not enough storage is available to complete this operation."
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This usually means that your system (Wing)is trying to allocate more memory than is available on your device.
Now yes you may have a 2gig mem card and your Program memory may have 20MB free but if you have too many running programs and you try to load an Mp3/Wav file, your system is trying to actually load more memory than you actually have, thus giving you an error! Try to stop some of the running programs on your phone and est out the Mp3, if it works then we found the issue, if not then let me know so I can try and come up with any other possible solutions.
I'm having the same problem.
i tried closing all programs, and using Oxios to free up more RAM. didn't work. i have an 8GB SD Card.
what does "est out the Mp3" mean?
Have you guys tried using another media player, like TCPMP? It works better with MP3s for me.
Please answer, if you can
I get this with some files, too. It's not a memory problem--19 MB free program memory and 60 MB free program memory plus gigabytes of flash, only the programs involved running. I'm using Windows Media Player 10 on Windows Mobile 6 Pro. I've got a dictionary that links to audio pronunciation files via "file:\\" style internal URLs. Tap the link, an IE window pops up, then Windows Media Player, and then the file starts playing in WMP. The handoff doesn't work with TCPMP, Core Player, or any other media player I've tried except WMP (they can't interpret the path to the file properly, no matter how I adjust the registry). So I have to use WMP. Each file is about 8 kb or smaller, and there are thousands of them. 98% work perfectly, but 2% cause this error message to pop up a few seconds into the clip. Files that work always work, and files that bring up the error always bring up the error. So the problem IS in the mp3 files themselves. The busted files work on other media players (if accessed directly--as stated, though, links from the dictionary work only in WMP). File verification programs (e.g., checkfile, the verification function in foobar) find nothing wrong, but when I back up files with Retrospect Express HD, SOME of the broken files (but not all of them) show up in the .dat log of the backup as "doesn't compare." Only the files with the problem show up that way.
I hope that's enough info. My implementation may be different but it seems like the same problem, so if someone can help me it should help the OP as well. Please let me know if you need more info.
Try this:
With WMP closed, in File Explorer, go to:
\Storage Card\MSMETADATA\
Delete the file: XMEMediaLibrary.mlb
Re-sync with WMP on the desktop to rebuild the XMEMediaLibrary.mlb file. That fixed it for me.
More tips on syncing Windows Media Player are here: http://pocketnow.com/review/windows-media-player-mobile-tips-and-tricks
Crazy
I have a 4GB card and about 500 MP3s & WMA on it and have never had that problem. I think the closing other programs would help. Some times I get that when I am playing music and try to launch my camera. That annoys me the most. Especially when I there is a perfect picture opportunity and I have to restart my phone. Sorry for going off the subject but that urks me.
Hi guys,
I've converted an HD movie to [email protected] mp4. The movie is 1h:31m long and is like 683MB. When I copied it to my sd card WMP can play it. It lags way too much and the problem is not with playback speed, but that the movie is lots of MB and lots of minutes. I converted the same movie but only the first 2 minutes with the same settings as a clim which plays without a frame drop on WMP. The same scenes, which lag so much on the full movie file plays flawlessly on the 2min. clip. Also the 683MB file plays good at the end, when there is not so much content left. So this should be due to precaching or something like that.
I remember I saw something like: copy WMP files to SD card and the lag stops but can't find this thread now. Can you help me with this one? Any idea why the fact that the movie is 1h:31m bothers WMP so much and how I can fix this problem?
Note: the problem is the same with Media Panel.
I'd try installing SDtuneup if you havent done so already and which converter are you using?
I encode my vids at MP4 h.264 600x360 @ 786kbps and havent got lag on those long vids.
Are you copying the files over in sdcard mode too instead of activesync?
I did tried with and without SDtuneup, but it was all the same.
It turns out, that WMP could not read very good from that part of the card. Which was very strange. I copied the same file twice on the SD card and the second copy worked fine. Very strange problem.
I decided to format the SD card and for now it seems that WMP does not have any reading issues, so far.
And the strangest thing is that I could copy the problematic file back to PC from X1 with more than 6MB/s speed. So it wasn't a read problem with the SD card, but just WMP had problems with it.
Anyone having such issue with WMP?
thelucius said:
I did tried with and without SDtuneup, but it was all the same.
It turns out, that WMP could not read very good from that part of the card. Which was very strange. I copied the same file twice on the SD card and the second copy worked fine. Very strange problem.
I decided to format the SD card and for now it seems that WMP does not have any reading issues, so far.
And the strangest thing is that I could copy the problematic file back to PC from X1 with more than 6MB/s speed. So it wasn't a read problem with the SD card, but just WMP had problems with it.
Anyone having such issue with WMP?
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Wow u had a class 6 card?
Well at least you have it fixed now- i assume you are using FAT32 filesystem yes?
I love my HD2 but the HTC music player is really slow when having lots of music (a 16 Gb card with maybe 1500 songs or so). It takes maybe 15-30 seconds before it is ready to use. Is this normal and is there any way to improve the speed?
I have the same problem very annoying. And slow to scroll through music in song view
Even worse is that it seems to do some rescan of all the music everytime you wake the phone, if the music tab is active, so you can't do anything until its finished. Very annoying.
Same for me with my 16Gb card. There should be an option to update manually instead of always automatically. Grr! I will still continue to use it though because the whole library and album selection is the best I've ever used on a WM Phone. Very comparable to the iPhone if not better IMO
My music player stopt after 20/30 sec. Anyone have noticed this problem?
It's driving my nuts
Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.
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Do you keep all of your songs in the same folder or separate ones? I have about 1000 songs and no more than 30/folder and it takes me about 2seconds to load up the music player.
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so you are telling that we need to put all music in one folder and that will speed up Mplayer??? i've got same problem with mine as well.
i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?
And what about the cover art if you keep the music in just a few folders? I did a try to speed things up by removing all *.jpg files and instead only use the embedded cover arts (My thought was that few files must mean a faster scan). That mostly resulted in me loosing coverarts on a lot of albums (Even due they have embedded pictures) so I guess there are some limitations in the use of embedded pictures?
thats strange i only got embedded covers and they work. Which programm did you use? i used mp3tag...
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i got all albums in seperate folders (50+) and the music is shown immediately. No lag when scrolling through song-view as well. Got a german one with german rom.
Maybe very slow sd-card? tnyynt-sd-tuneup installed?
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As long as you don't keep all of your music in the same folder it's going to load up quickly.
This is a repost from me in another thread about the same problem:
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I have experienced exactly the same problem and found a way to solve it. I had over 500 MP3 songs in one folder on a microSD card. Playing them was terrible, the same problems you mention: stutter, freezing, buffering and the entire phone seemed to be unresponsive at times.
Then I played a very large MP3 file (about 1 hour in length) and I had no troubles at all. That surprised me, because I expected (because of the constant buffering) this would not play at all. What suddenly hit me was that this large file was the only MP3 file in a separate folder.
So I moved a couple songs (which stuttered very much) to another folder and they played without any problem.
The solution I used was this: I deleted the single folder with to over 500 MP3's and added the songs through the Media Player of my PC. This way, the folder structure in the music folder is: Artist/Album/Songs. So every single folder with songs contains only a few MP3 files.
After that I let the Media Player rescan the microSD card. All the songs were detected and they all play without any worry.
Best regards,
Willem (Netherlands)
Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Well mine remains slow My structure is /Music/Artists/Album and around 2000 songs.
This structure is automatic when you sync with WMPlayer.
I found if you ignore this structure you get "Audiomanager.exe has crashed" after 5 mins of playing (see another of my posts).
Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.
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Maybe it's something to do with the SD Card?
Do micro SD cards have various classes like normal SD cards?
Mine is a Sandisk 16GB, but that's all it says.
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Mine is also a Sandisk 16GB. I can't imagine you would need a high class microSD card, since all it needs to do is relatively easy reading straight forward files. It would be different if you needed to save enormous amounts of data.
And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
EDIT: I used the same microSD card with the same songs in a HD (Blackstone) without problems...
Willem
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Yes they have different classes, but as many have already pointed out the lag is mostly due to an improper folder structure. So just move them by hand and dont put all of your songs in the same folder.
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Thought so! As I said my file structure is properly created by Windows Media Player 12, /music/artist/album being the structure and it still lags like hell!
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And since I don't have folders anymore with hundreds of MP3's in them, my problem is solved.
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
Who's right? lol!!
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Why don't you try and see for yourself. I had over 1000 songs in one folder to begin with and noticed that it took almost 30 seconds for the music player to even start. I then thought I'd try moving them around a bit and noticed that the load times were cut to two seconds and that the lag was gone once I had moved them to folders with no more than 50 songs in each. You also notice the speed increase in adding music files to windows media player's playlist.
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Willem, so you are doing the opposite of what Toss2 said above and amalgamated all your songs into one folder?
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Nope, the lag, stutter and buffering only happens when I do have hundreds of files in 1 folder.
Since I have put the songs on the SDcard through Windows (7) Media Player (12) everything is fine.
Willem
Their is two part to the solution:
1) Don't put all the files in the same folder (if you sync using WMP, it may do so)
2) Format your SD card.... but using the "Format SD Card" utility on the phone (Start menu => Tools => Format SD Card in WWE ROM). This very help me (and my phone).. And now, it's only a little long after a soft reset, when going in the music tab for the first time
I have a Nexus 5 and just looking at my storage, it's:
Apps + Data - 5.62Gb
Pictures, Videos - 9.79Gb
Audio - 3Gb
Downloads - 1.62Gb
Misc - 5.32Gb (mainly whatsapp and Titanium Backup)
My question is, what are you going to put on your external SD. My music will go straight there, as will my TitaniumBackup files, but I'm curious about pictures. If i store them on the external SD card, will they take ages to render in a gallery app? I'm getting a Samsung Pro+ sd card fyi
It still seems like there'll be a storage problem on the internal memory if I leave pics there
Pictures, Videos, Music, offline mapping data (for Locus Pro - I wish Garmin Viago would put it there too), reference documents (word, pdf, et al), offline backups for pretty much anything that can backup it's data/settings, other misc data.
Hopefully the games I end up getting will put their data there, instead of on internal memory (or at least let me move it).
I have a Lexar 1000x and have no issues with Gallery, etc. I'm prety sure that once a directory/image has been hit that a cached thumbnail is stored internally - regardless of where the actual images and videos reside.
So when you actually click on a pic that's stored on your sd card it shows instantly without any slow rendering?
Also, do the gallery and music apps show both pics/music stored on the sd card and internal memory?
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So when you actually click on a pic that's stored on your sd card it shows instantly without any slow rendering?
Also, do the gallery and music apps show both pics/music stored on the sd card and internal memory?
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Define "instantly" ... on the order of 1 second, yes. Absolutely identical to an image stored on internal memory? Doubt it. Hard to believe that would be possible when comparing a storage device reading 300Mb/s vs one reading 65Mb/s. The latter is only 20% the capability of the former after all.
Gallery and Music are both pleasantly and smoothly interactive. Again, are they as absolutely as fast as with media stored only on internal memory? Doubt it. Fast enough that I never think about it? Yes.
Would I want a SQL database image stored on the SD card? Probably not, but it would depend upon the usage pattern. If it was 95% read-only it may still be fast enough though.
Thanks! As I'm coming from the N5, I've got all these considerations! I guess I'm used to a certain speed on my N5 when viewing pics in the gallery, and want to know if it's going to be a noticeable loss in performance if I store stuff on the SD Card instead.
I store my music cached from Google Play Music, about 10 GB, and my pictures. I have always stored pictures on the external sd and I have not noticed any difference between this phone and my previous LG G3 or Galaxy S3 in terms of how fast the gallery loads. There is no noticeable lag. I also back up my Tasker profiles, Zooper Widget files, and other settings to the external sd.