So... I was just wondering... would it be possible to disassemble the CDMA Hero and put it's parts inside of a GSM Hero casing? I just don't like the CDMA casing that much... and I like the chin on the GSM version.
Any this is possible, but is worth the extreme amount of time & effort, no.
you would be the only guy with a $1,100 dollar hero
(assuming both phones are retail)
there's the motivation right there, almost makes me want one.
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So... I was just wondering... would it be possible to disassemble the CDMA Hero and put it's parts inside of a GSM Hero casing? I just don't like the CDMA casing that much... and I like the chin on the GSM version.
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Not possible. The form factor is not even close. The track ball placement is about ten miles off. The buttons and the trackball are on a separate pcb in the GSM version that is connected to the primary, the CDMA is all on one board.
I like the chin too, when I heard that we were getting the hero, I prayed that they would not change it. My prayers were not answered
I enjoy both form factors, but I did fall in love with and pray on the chinned version. While I've never played with a GSM Hero, but looks to me like the chinless version's buttons are easier to press... the chinned version's look pretty flush but blah.
I also think the chinless version's build quality (again, never played with chinned version) seems a couple notches above our chinless version. blah. ah well, what can you do?
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Hi everyone -
Based on some of the reports out there, such as the Boy Genius review, it sounds like the US (CDMA) version has some improvements over the GSM version, specifically the build quality of the slider and a better keyboard. I'm in the US but want the GSM version (I use AT&T) and am thinking of getting an import.
Given the delay in availablility, my guess is the US/CDMA version was designed and built after the GSM version, so they may have made some production tweaks. Anyone know if those same tweaks are showing up in the GSM model? If not I may just get the CDMA model, even with that stupid attached flappy thing.
Thanks!
Mike
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Hi everyone -
Based on some of the reports out there, such as the Boy Genius review, it sounds like the US (CDMA) version has some improvements over the GSM version, specifically the build quality of the slider and a better keyboard. I'm in the US but want the GSM version (I use AT&T) and am thinking of getting an import.
Given the delay in availablility, my guess is the US/CDMA version was designed and built after the GSM version, so they may have made some production tweaks. Anyone know if those same tweaks are showing up in the GSM model? If not I may just get the CDMA model, even with that stupid attached flappy thing.
Thanks!
Mike
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i suggest u wait because even if they are producing gsm shifts with the new improvments then it will take a while till they trickle down to the shops. plus the wait will also allow the price to go down.
Pawel062 said:
i suggest u wait because even if they are producing gsm shifts with the new improvments then it will take a while till they trickle down to the shops. plus the wait will also allow the price to go down.
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have you ever seen the price of HTC product lowering down ?
I wish the shift could get the price lowered ... will see !
koala996 said:
have you ever seen the price of HTC product lowering down ?
I wish the shift could get the price lowered ... will see !
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yes but i ment on the online shops. the touch cruise used to be over 800 new. not its about 700 new. shift will be same. u might see it soon going on ebay for about 1400-1500.
WAIT???? But I want it NOW!!!!
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http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/w...lyrics_68869/i_want_it_now_lyrics_668039.html
Thanks for the replies! Yeah, I know I should wait, but I was hoping someone would say all was well and the changes had already trickled down. If I wait, I'll probably end up with an Asus EEE 900.....<grin>
Mike
Why wait?
If you want one now, just get it.
And get the one you want, the GSM model.
A few weeks ago (at the UMPC Portal meeting after CeBIT) I had a chance to hold and play a little with a UK model (what you'd probably go for).
This was the most solidly built UMPC (actually, the Asus R2E felt similar but is a completely different type) that I had layed hands on yet (and on that day I held quite a few) and I can't imagine that any improvements that they might or might not have made to the CDMA model would really be significant. The sliding mechanism worked very well, although I must admit you needed both hands to close it. To me this is no issue taking the size of the Shift into account. It is not a 3" phone that I'd expect to operate with one hand. With the way I would use the Shift in mind I actually prefer it to be a little "sturdier".
If the sliding mechanism on the CDMA model in the review really was more "loose", this could also point to production variations or some people probably would even interprete this as an (insignificantly) lower build quality oft that version .
If you should be interested in an opinion of the build quality of the German version (released last week), wait another day, I will pick MY Shift up from the post office tomorrow.
By the way, something else to consider: The GSM model does not have the case bolted on. It is really ridiculous that somebody at the FCC thought this would protect users from too much radiation Probably HTC should add a roll of aluminum foil to the package - one can make wonderful hats from that
Completely agree with the last post. My Shift is very sturdy and build quality is superb, sliding action is firm but smooth, just how you'd want it.
landshark said:
Hi everyone -
Based on some of the reports out there, such as the Boy Genius review, it sounds like the US (CDMA) version has some improvements over the GSM version, specifically the build quality of the slider and a better keyboard. I'm in the US but want the GSM version (I use AT&T) and am thinking of getting an import.
Given the delay in availablility, my guess is the US/CDMA version was designed and built after the GSM version, so they may have made some production tweaks. Anyone know if those same tweaks are showing up in the GSM model? If not I may just get the CDMA model, even with that stupid attached flappy thing.
Thanks!
Mike
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I talked to tech support today about an wifi issue. I have an import gsm
He told me in May the shift will be in US in both cdma and a unlocked gsm version. He had a unlocked gsm US version himself while on the phone with me.
Also said the US gsm version has an updated ROM than what my import gsm version has and includes telanav on both the cdma and gsm.
will not have a built in gps reciever, will triangulate position off cell towers
Oh so lonely...
There is nobody...
Who owns this phone...
DeathJester said:
Oh so lonely...
There is nobody...
Who owns this phone...
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Where does CDMA stand for?
Code division multiple access
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDMA
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=learn+to+search
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=learn+to+search
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Bloody hilarious, mate
Is the newly leaked VZW xv6975 classified as a Topaz even though it's got a bigger screen than the Touch Diamond 2 sold outside the US?
If so, it shouldn't be lonely here much longer.
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Is the newly leaked VZW xv6975 classified as a Topaz even though it's got a bigger screen than the Touch Diamond 2 sold outside the US?
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Good question.
I am looking for answers too.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561963
brent372 said:
Good question.
I am looking for answers too.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561963
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If you're looking for answers.... Try HERE<-----CLICK THE LINK.....TONS OF TOPAZ CDMA INFO!!!
I know sprint had the diamond are they gonna get this one 2? not that it matters cuz i left sprint just i am just wondering
Thanks tom, but that doesn't really provide the answers...
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Thanks tom, but that doesn't really provide the answers...
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But google is the best place to start.... There aren't many topaz cdma users, so you must search the web to find content. I have looked for you guys to no avail.... There just aren't enough people using it yet.
Google.. yeah.. been there, done that..
I could also be the Leo.. seen here
Really it's Whitestone
Actually, it looks like Verizon will be using HTC's Whitestone platform in lieu of Topaz (http://www.wmexperts.com/verizon-imagio-whitestone-rumored-oct-6). It's been rumored that Sprint will be using Whitesone to replace the Diamond instead of Topaz.
Yes, we know that.. but we are tyrinig to figure out what the Whitestone actually is.
Is it a platform unto itself? is it a Blackstone? is it a Leo?
I think Whitestone is a code name for CDMA version of the Topaz. And the only reason it didn't get the Topaz name is because it actually has a bigger screen....so it needed a new coded name.
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I think Whitestone is a code name for CDMA version of the Topaz. And the only reason it didn't get the Topaz name is because it actually has a bigger screen....so it needed a new coded name.
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Isn't it called HTC Warhawk?
ArtieQ said:
Isn't it called HTC Warhawk?
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No...Warhawk is AT&T's code name for their US GSM Diamond 2 which will carry the name Pure when it is released. And Fortress is AT&T's code name for thier US GSM Touch Pro 2 which will carry the name Tilt2 whe it is released.
I know this is all very confusing especially when different phones that appear similar actually have different code names. But some of them are really just derived variations of an original other model.
So in essence a Topaz is a Diamond 2 (we all know this)...but a Whitestone is just a CDMA version of the Topaz with a larger screen. And a Warhawk is a Topaz or Diamond 2 with US GSM bands (and international bands) for AT&T.
I guess because the Whitestone actually represents a considerable differentiation in screen size from the original Topaz is why it deserved to have its own separate code name hence Whitestone instead of also being a Topaz. But now that we realize this I think it is okay to sort of consider the Whitestone as a mutated Topaz instead of a completely different generation device.
Recap: CDMA Topaz = CDMA Diamond 2 = Whitestone = Imagio
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So in essence a Topaz is a Diamond 2 (we all know this)...but a Whitestone is just a CDMA version of the Topaz with a larger screen. And a Warhawk is a Topaz or Diamond 2 with US GSM bands (and international bands) for AT&T.
I guess because the Whitestone actually represents a considerable differentiation in screen size from the original Topaz is why it deserved to have its own separate code name hence Whitestone instead of also being a Topaz. But now that we realize this I think it is okay to sort of consider the Whitestone as a mutated Topaz instead of a completely different generation device.
Recap: CDMA Topaz = CDMA Diamond 2 = Whitestone = Imagio
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Ok... two more questions just to clarify... 1. Will the GSM version of the Topaz (Warkhawk) for AT&T have the same size screen of the Whitestone? 2. Will AT&T's version also support MediaFLO and have a similar kick-stand antenna like the Verizon Whitestone (Imagio)?
EDIT: Another question 3. Given that the Imagio is also a US Quad-band GSM phone, if it were unlocked, would I be able to use it with AT&T's wireless network and still somehow get the V-Cast service using MediaFLO?
See youtube videos of the Verizon Imagio below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHvihCUXqIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6awsDeRVM_0&feature=player_embedded#
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Ok... two more questions just to clarify... 1. Will the GSM version of the Topaz (Warkhawk) for AT&T have the same size screen of the Whitestone? 2. Will AT&T's version also support MediaFLO and have a similar kick-stand antenna like the Verizon Whitestone (Imagio)?
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The AT&T Pure (Warhawk) will have a 3.2 inch screen
I'm not sure (I haven't read it anywhere) if MediaFLO will be included. My bet is that it doesn't. And according to the leaked picture today on WMexperts I don't see a kickstand so perhaps the answer is no antenna and no MediaFLO. I suggest investing in a Slingbox instead of paying for MediaFLO.
See pictures here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/att-pure-real-live-and-flesh
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EDIT: Another question 3. Given that the Imagio is also a US Quad-band GSM phone, if it were unlocked, would I be able to use it with AT&T's wireless network and still somehow get the V-Cast service using MediaFLO?
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If you can figure a way to unlock it ...which I suspect someone will eventually figure out...then yes it will be able to be used on AT&T's network. But it may be limited to just EDGE and no 3G on AT&T (not saying for sure it won't work on AT&T 3G...just speculating). And as for getting MediaFLO service this will depend on changing the software possibly on the phone to allow you to get a MediaFLO account through AT&T with the software that Verizon puts on it for MediaFLO...both AT&T MediaFLO and Verizon MediaFLO software may or may not be compatible.
Not sure if I answered more questions than I left unanswered but I see where your thinking is taking you...but I still recommend the Slingbox approach and forget the MediaFLO. Perhaps when we start seeing ATSC-M/H finally come out we can have devices with free TV reception.
EDIT: Acually looking at the leaked AT&T Pure picture again more carefully I do see a kickstand !!!! It is hard to see because the kickstand is black but it is there seen very faintly in the picture. So perhaps it is an antenna and does have MediaFLO capability!
Telus has anounced their new network and some phones coming, to bad I hate them as much as Rogers, but can anyone tell is this the curved European Hero, as this is not the CDMA network but the HSPA.
why don't you just go take a look at their website?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/network/devices.shtml
I did thats why I am asking
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why don't you just go take a look at their website?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/network/devices.shtml
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I did look thats how I knew they picked up the Hero, but it does not show a side view, but I assume it must be the curved one as its not the CDMA version.
Yes, that is the one with the chin.
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I did look thats how I knew they picked up the Hero, but it does not show a side view, but I assume it must be the curved one as its not the CDMA version.
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Those pics show that it look exactly the same as the European ones. Unless you are afraid that they would take the same design but just iron the chin out, you don't really need a side view.
hey guys.
lets start with some background for a second...
i havent been here in over like 9 months, i used to own an htc touch pro (at&t fuze) but shortly moved on to a blackberry, then an iphone...... and now ffffiiinally, i am sooooo ready for a fresh start with a new device and a new OS and feel. Thus, i chose android, because i think it is gonna be the future of phones. and i like the customization ability and the openness..
now. i live in the US. i have at&t.
i want a magic and a hero, but cannot have both.
i know they are virtually the same, hardware wise, but the hero's 5MP cam over the magic's 3.2, and the hero's 3.5mm headphone jack have me at a loss, because that makes me want the hero bad. but i cannot seem to get my hands on a hero with at&t 3G, which is 850/1900.
the magic on the other hand, i have found a version that possess american 3G.
so i'd either have to choose the hero, with a couple better specs and NO at&t 3G, or the magic, with the camera that gets the job done and no HS jack, BUT has at&t 3G. (Sense UI isnt something im worried about because i can get that on a magic easy peasy)
so im torn.
help me decide. and i'll love you.
The cameras in use are meant to be much of a muchness and an adaptor to 3.5 is not the end of the world either. I went the magic cause here the hero(with chin) is plain ugly
Have you looked into unlocked TELUS HTC Hero? Those versions have the AT&T bands. It also has the European version's chassis so it has the Jay Leno chin.
be sure if you get magic to get the 32A version with 3G
yea. thanks guys. i went with an unlocked magic from rogers. so, when it gets here i'll be back!
thanks!
No this is not a rom question, I was wondering if anything thinks or knows if it would be possible to swap the internals of a CDMA hero into the chassis of a GSM hero?
Why? Why not?
could someone either take a pic of the back of their hero with the cover off(or more if possible)
or at best show me to a tear down of the gsm hero?
It might technically be possible since the internals of the phones, aside from the radios, are the same. Not sure how that translates to reality though.
Are the area's in the phone, internally the same? If that is so then yes I believe it is possible. A darn hard job to do so but yes. It can be done.
Kinda the same if you think of a Citroen Saxo with an Porche engine. Same size so yea XD