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[Q] 2nd OTA - has anyone actually received one?

There's mixed info on whether the 2nd OTA actually exists or if it's just a late announcement of the one everyone knows about.
Has anyone here actually received a 2nd OTA update?

NO 2nd UPDATE. David at TmoNews wasn't clear in his post the other day entitled "Updates galore". He meant to highlight the updates for other phones, and mentioned the mt4g as having an update too. His intention was the one OTA so far, not an additional one.
Where is this chatter for a 2nd OTA that you speak of?

Actually the TMONews post is where I heard about it in the first place - although I can't find the post, I'd swear I saw someone here mention that they had received it and it was an update to QIK (not a Market update - but rather in normal ROM OTA fashion).

Kies vs. OTA

Can someone post (or re-post) a link to where T-mobile or Samsung says the update is only via Kies?
This assumes that millions of Vibrant owners a) are PC-savvy enough to update that way, b) run Windows in the first place (unless there is a linux version of Kies that I don't know about, please post link if you do)... while not *utterly* outside the realm of possibility, when you step back and look this is a pretty ridiculous thought that doesn't pass the smell test for me until I see some kind of proof.
Which leads me to the point that unless you have gotten a text or update notification on your phone from T-mobile with layman-friendly (pre-noob) instructions on how to use kies to update your phone from stock eclair to stock froyo, I don't believe that what is on Kies necessarily corresponds to what will be pushed OTA.
In fact I think it's quite possible if not likely that last second changes/fixes may have necessitated a final KA7 last night to hit the airwaves with "today".
Anyone have a screenshot of an OTA *NOTIFICATION* having been sent to them, and what form that takes and what instructions it gives? That's the proof I want to see.

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richiehd:
photo of their source:
http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/
their tweet:
http://twitter.com/#!/TmoNews/status/28494230598979584

bradycl_84043 said:
Can someone post (or re-post) a link to where T-mobile or Samsung says the update is only via Kies?
This assumes that millions of Vibrant owners a) are PC-savvy enough to update that way, b) run Windows in the first place (unless there is a linux version of Kies that I don't know about, please post link if you do)... while not *utterly* outside the realm of possibility, when you step back and look this is a pretty ridiculous thought that doesn't pass the smell test for me until I see some kind of proof.
Which leads me to the point that unless you have gotten a text or update notification on your phone from T-mobile with layman-friendly (pre-noob) instructions on how to use kies to update your phone from stock eclair to stock froyo, I don't believe that what is on Kies necessarily corresponds to what will be pushed OTA.
In fact I think it's quite possible if not likely that last second changes/fixes may have necessitated a final KA7 last night to hit the airwaves with "today".
Anyone have a screenshot of an OTA *NOTIFICATION* having been sent to them, and what form that takes and what instructions it gives? That's the proof I want to see.
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For the Mini Kies notification
http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/
As I wrote in a couple of other threads. You are right. This is just a voluntarily upgrade. And I think it was mainly to shut up to angry power users. As proof we have the KA7 leak that just came out today and the version Kies is updating is KA6. The mandatory OTA will be coming some time later but this seems to be a move to quiet down the press about the whole Froyo update issue. If this was the official update from T-mobile we would probably have the source code today as well, which is what we here on XDA really want.

Interesting. This is the first time that I've seen any kind of documentation showing that TMO won't be doing distributing as an FOTA update. Thanks for the heads up KA7. Still running JL5 while I've been waiting for things to settle down somewhat. Hopefully KA7 will be the last official release for the next month or so now.

any word on what version KA7 is? 2.2.1?

swehes said:
For the Mini Kies notification
http://yfrog.com/f/gy2nwxlj/
As I wrote in a couple of other threads. You are right. This is just a voluntarily upgrade. And I think it was mainly to shut up to angry power users. As proof we have the KA7 leak that just came out today and the version Kies is updating is KA6. The mandatory OTA will be coming some time later but this seems to be a move to quiet down the press about the whole Froyo update issue. If this was the official update from T-mobile we would probably have the source code today as well, which is what we here on XDA really want.
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Agreed... and personally I'm waiting for Nero 6 (7?). But I'm going to be very interested in what T-mobile says *externally* today.
A promise of an update today from someone that high up at T-mobile... I'm sorry, when average josephine-housewife who bought a pretty Vibrant from the nice man at the T-mobile stand at Wal-Mart finds out that it *isn't* just a click-click-click on their phone like JI6 was... there's going to be a *lot* of very pissed off callers (and T-mobile phone support techs).
This effectively makes it an update that isn't really an update for everyone who has a Vibrant, not even everyone who has a Vibrant on T-mobile, and if that's the way it's left I'd be very surprised. I don't think that that is the message they want to send right now. "See, we updated today. Sorta..."
*This* update isn't mandatory, isn't FOTA. There could be an OTA 2 hours later discussed in their "Community". Not in the scope of the update being discussed in that screenshot.
It's entirely possible, now that I think about it, that KA6 is where features and so forth freeze, and that KA7 (and higher) are more focused on fixing anything that could break during OTA update, which could be (supportably) from JI6 *or* JFD.
We'll just have to see, but right now all we have proof of is that there is an update, and it is on Kies. I think that there *has* to be an honest to god OTA coming. To not do so almost guarantees that you will end up having a very high number of customers still on 2.1, perhaps over 50%, out of sheer laziness or lack of information/confidence to update. That support nightmare, again, just doesn't pass the smell test.

Also Kies Mini is refusing to update my phone, and I'm not sure how many people will haev a similar issue but it downloaded a bunch of **** and told me my phone could not be upgraded 5 times in a row.
How many battery pulls do I have to do before the damn thing actually updates?
Terrible experience, IMO, and a huge waste of time seeing as how some of us don't have the fastest internet connections out there...
That software also tends to choke spectacularly on Windows 7 (both 32 and 64-Bit) and AFAIK it does not run on Mac or Linux computers.
On the flip side, T-Mobile's coverage is bad so they put themselves into a corner when it comes to FOTA updates. I'm not driving 20 miles just do download a smartphone update because they only have GPRS and Weak Edge (1-2 Bars) around me...

Monthly Security Updates

Hey all I have a purely stock unrooted nexus 6p that I am trying to figure out why I am getting the monthly update a week before the release of the next update ever time. I am thinking its ATT blocking the updates. Can you please post the carrier, date and time when you received the May update please?

VZW and mine showed update on the 13th. Was starting to wonder when I'd see it, but it finally hit.

Still waiting here on Sprint for the update. This is taking forever.
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I have Project Fi and get my updates rather late too. It's not just you.

If you really want the update, then by all means flash it manually as soon as it comes out.
I don't think that the carrier can actually block the update, unless you somehow bought the 6P carrier-branded, and through the carrier. That being said, I've been on Tmo, Fi, VZW, and Straight Talk, and I have never actually received a monthly security update as soon as they are released. Usually I had to wait a couple of days. I think those updates roll out randomly, so I'd say just keep waiting, or flash it yourself.

Nexus updates are known to be pushed out in stages.
If you are desperate just flash the images via fastboot or sideload the ota via adb.

Yes I know I can side load the update. That is not the point of this post. Its to get an idea of timing of when people are getting the updates and what carriers they are on.
Google releases there updates in a phased approach. They first release it to 1% all the way up to 100%. 100% should be getting the update within 2 - 3 weeks. The 2 -3 week period I have yet to see!
What I was trying to determine is if this is the carriers blocking the updates till a specific time or its google just not pushing updates to the phones like they say they are.
Note ATT is notorious for blocking updates. And yes they can block the update as long as your using there network to check.
If Google is releasing security updates on a monthly bases and you don't get it before the next update is released, whats the use in a monthly update???

brichardson1991 said:
Nexus updates are known to be pushed out in stages.
If you are desperate just flash the images via fastboot or sideload the ota via adb.
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How do you side load. I just saw that google has released images to do that. I too have a 6p completely stock. I want to keep the bootloader locked. I have never had a nexus device before. So this is new to me I always used Samsung. The problem with Samsung is you have to mod the hell out of it. this phone just works like it is supposed to. but I do want to try to update manually. So I followed the instructions in the general section and I am installing the sdk as we speak. So what is the process for side loading and where do I get the update? My phone gets its updates really late in the month and I hate waiting. Also I booted this phone into recovery and tried to do a factory reset but it didn't do it and there were all these options I am not used to. How do I do a basic factory reset from recovery? I would like to know just in case. I am not wanting to go crazy with this phone but I do want to understand it so when I get the nexus 7 I can play with this one when I get spare time.

H918 Next Update

Do any of you think we're going to get an update anytime soon? Especially with the wake of the CIA hacking leak that just happened. While yes I do understand that the process of exploitation is a pain and all, getting updates is good on another front.

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Do any of you think we're going to get an update anytime soon? Especially with the wake of the CIA hacking leak that just happened. While yes I do understand that the process of exploitation is a pain and all, getting updates is good on another front.
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Depending of what comes within the update. Sometimes are just small fixes and not security patches. Sometimes it comes with security patches and not fixes. Sometimes it comes with different things such as fixes, patches, and new features at the same time.... But sometimes, to update is even useless lol. Thats why i wait and read what does it applies. If it is nothing that interest me then i just keep the same version i had instead of upgrading.

Word has it that the US 996 version got an update yesterday, so perhaps there's hope for us (I couldn't find any details as to whether it's 7.1.x, etc.)

I was just thinking it's been a while since the last update.

Yes, my gpad has had at least 3 updates, and my wife's Stylo has had 2 or 3 since the last time my "flagship" v20 has been the stylo is on the March security update and my gpad is on the April update. V20 is Dec 2016?
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Regarding Oreo Update

Went through many news and YT videos, they are claiming that we will get Oreo 8.0 update till the end of this month i.e., May'18.
Can anyone verify this more accurately?
By the way I don't oreo update from Motorola/Lenovo since when we have XDA.
Using AEX ( Thanks @ishubhamsingh for the awesome work) from a long time.
While commenting mention your ROM too.

Anything other than official updates should be ignored. Other sources usually have no proof and are pretty much just clickbait.

Still waiting
Got the May OTA security update via TMO today. Still no Oreo.
I am inclined to believe that our phones will not be getting Oreo, ever. Motorola's strategy seems to be to kick the can down the road until they can say our phones are "no longer supported." They've left us at the side of the road for dead.
Eventually, when I get a replacement for this phone, it will not be a Motorola.

bikergeek1553 said:
Got the May OTA security update via TMO today. Still no Oreo.
I am inclined to believe that our phones will not be getting Oreo, ever. Motorola's strategy seems to be to kick the can down the road until they can say our phones are "no longer supported." They've left us at the side of the road for dead.
Eventually, when I get a replacement for this phone, it will not be a Motorola.
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May update? What device are you on? So far I've seen people on either March or April update plus some rare cases where some haven't received even earlier OTAs

psychopac said:
May update? What device are you on? So far I've seen people on either March or April update plus some rare cases where some haven't received even earlier OTAs
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Moto G5 Plus/potter. I just got a security update today, is that not the May security update?

bikergeek1553 said:
Moto G5 Plus/potter. I just got a security update today, is that not the May security update?
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The month will be mentioned in the changelog. Just tap the update notification and you'll see which month's security update you've received. Let me know

psychopac said:
The month will be mentioned in the changelog. Just tap the update notification and you'll see which month's security update you've received. Let me know
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Says "April 1, 2018." Silly me, I thought that I'd get a May security update in May.