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Hello
I have just had my first Android phone a couple of days. One question has come up.
After I have wiped and put in a new ROM, how can I reinstall all my applications and settings in a easy way? Seems to be to much work each time I upgrade a ROM (DeFroST), so it must exist a way to do this. I can see this application Titanium Backup that is always within the ROM. Is this the solution?
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Blinkiz said:
Hello
I have just had my first Android phone a couple of days. One question has come up.
After I have wiped and put in a new ROM, how can I reinstall all my applications and settings in a easy way? Seems to be to much work each time I upgrade a ROM (DeFroST), so it must exist a way to do this. I can see this application Titanium Backup that is always within the ROM. Is this the solution?
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i use my backup pro(paid) its in the market
quite good
darkenergy said:
titanium backup on appmarket
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i second that
just tested titanium with lic between 2 diiferent froyo awesome...
titanium backup is the best! well...at least to me
Thanks all for the answers. It has been of great help for me and probably others searching for the same thing.
I hope my topic will reflect what people are searching after.
i used mybackup pro before i rooted my phone, i now use titanium backup (donate) - works great
Hi Guys
I have the rom that you can see in my signature. I'd like to know if, when I'll install the JVH 2.3.3 ROM, I can restore my saved apps with TitaniumBackup without problems.
Thanks
Yes, just remember not to restore system apps. It is also best in my experience not to batch restore but do it one by one, and for most of them just restore the app, not data. Only restore app+data when you really need whatever settings were in the app.
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rschenck said:
Yes, just remember not to restore system apps. It is also best in my experience not to batch restore but do it one by one, and for most of them just restore the app, not data. Only restore app+data when you really need whatever settings were in the app.
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so if i restore app+ data, would I be able to restore the game save files?
like for baseball game..i developed my player to be really good (trained for many hours)
i dont want to lose him
lkh5650, saves are in these programs and will be restored along with them.
I am moving from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3 using Titanium restored all the programs, their data and some system data, as pim (log of calls can not be restored). Everything else I do not advise.
Lar3s said:
lkh5650, saves are in these programs and will be restored along with them.
I am moving from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3 using Titanium restored all the programs, their data and some system data, as pim (log of calls can not be restored). Everything else I do not advise.
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thanks for the reply
does that mean i only need to restore the app?? i dont have to restore app+data?
lkh5650, I always choose "Restore all apps with data", and then remove the check mark in the list of unnecessary items (all red - is a system software, and optionally the green - leaving only pim).
Thanks guys!
However, I backup the 90% of the "user apps" (I exclude big games and so on). Then there is no chance to restore system apps or something like this.
Thank you again!
olivercervera said:
Hi Guys
I have the rom that you can see in my signature. I'd like to know if, when I'll install the JVH 2.3.3 ROM, I can restore my saved apps with TitaniumBackup without problems.
Thanks
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Note that you can't revert SMS/MMS from 2.3.3 to 2.2.1 with TB, the database are incompatibles.
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Contacts/Texts/(+other system data) is okay from 2.2.1 -> 2.3.3
However, if you backup system data from 2.3.3 and restore it to 2.2.1 you will get force closes.
So you can upgrade and keep your data, but can't revert
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Contacts/Texts/(+other system data) is okay from 2.2.1 -> 2.3.3
However, if you backup system data from 2.3.3 and restore it to 2.2.1 you will get force closes.
So you can upgrade and keep your data, but can't revert
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Or just save all that to Google or your SIM card and restore as needed.
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my experience
hey guys,
i moved from JPJ 2.2.1 to JVB 2.3.3 with all ease and no probs at all. even restored all my messages and contacts. here's what i did.
1. backup eveything with titanium. all of it.
2. use go sms to backup all your sms's.
3. use contacts to export ur contacts to sd.
4. flash JVB da way u want.
5. once ur on 2.3.3 and running all well. install TB. goto batch option. click restore missing apps. in the menu select apk only. and recheck all apps are user apps only. if there is a system app (in green or red) deselect it.
And voila! all ur apps are back. now u can pick and choose wich ones u want to restore data for. personally i found restoring data for games is no problem.
6. via my files app goto ex-sd card and find out the .vcf file that was created by contacts and click it. itl will restore all ur contacts.
7. reinstall go sms. and restore your messages.
8. create a nandroid as quickly as you can so u can avoid all the inconvenience and simply restore data from nandroid when u change to another gingerbread from this one.
Cheers! and happy flashing
SO I want to go from the stock 2.2 Android software to the "Virtuous Unity Sense"
My main reasoning for this is,
- I want HTC's gingerbread sense, but it's still not yet released with no word on when it will be.
- Why not upgrade to version 3 if I am going to run a custom rom
Now I have my phone setup EXACTLY how I like it, all the apps took a long time to find and configure, everything works flawlessly and does everything I want it to do.
I assume to upgrade to unity sense I will have to format the phone's memory, what is the best way to backup all the apps and their configurations without loosing any performance or causing problems for the apps?
Also if I one day wanted to load the official HTC 2.3 update is it possible to "un-do" everything and go back to official software?
cheers
The general concensus on backing up is titanium backup. If you are willing to pay for the premium version, it will also do multiple level backup of your apps + data and on restoration, offers a silent installer (ie no need to tap install and done for every app) and it also give suggestions on what to back up at the system level. Hope that helps
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
i use QTADB its a program for the computer(Linux/Windows/OSX) will back up to you sdcard it works well and easy to use best of all its free(or though if you use it a lot you should donate)
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If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1)...
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I would assume he has the latest official 1.82 Froyo 2.2.1 ROM. At least this is what I have for many months now.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
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I see what you're saying, but you should be fine either way, because even in the downgrade process you have to obtain temproot prior to downgrading. so you obtain temp root, download tibu, create your backups, then continue the downgrade process.
once you're done with everything, download tibu again and restore backups. voila.
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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AreOh said:
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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yup, by miles
Never used My Backup. Ti backup was perfect for my use the first time i used it so i had no need to try other backups
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I will throw another recommendation for Titanium Backup Pro. Worth the few $$ and its easy to use. Remember, don't backup the 'System Data' unless you plan to restore it to the SAME type of ROM (aka wipe and reinstall the same ROM to fix a problem). Just backup 'Apps + Data'. And restore them on the new ROM.
Thanks for the tips in this thread, just thinking about rooting my phone. I already worked with titanium backup (free version) on my hero and that worked very well. But it has to be rooted and like pmcqueen said I can make the titanium backup before downgrading and after temproot Did not think of that yet.
I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching roms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
itm said:
I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
veritasaequita said:
I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried my the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching rooms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
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Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores, restoring apps+data, and even restoring system data when wiping and reinstalling CM7 nightlies, all with no problem.
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
itm said:
Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Same, I have over 100 apps to restore on a batch restore. Just gotta think smart about it. If you didn't install it from the market, then it probably came with the ROM... And things like Gallery and Clock are already in the ROM, so don't replace those.
Also, you should be running a ROM manager 'fix permissions' after batch restoring apps to fix any little problems.
itm said:
Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Apps that are stored in the "ROM" (i.e., in /system/app, which is normally mounted read-only) are shown in red in Titanium Backup. Apps that are installed by the user (i.e., in /data/app, which is mounted read-write) are shown in white. System settings are shown in green. You can use TB's filters to show only system apps or only user apps.
One major consideration is that Titanium Backup requires root. It will not run without root, even though some of the tasks it performs does not require root. MyBackup Pro will run without root, though it does not have all the features of TB. So if you are running a firmware release where you cannot even get temp root without first wiping the phone, you should use MyBackup Pro first. Or even if you can get temp root, you might feel safer having a backup first anyway.
Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores said:
no I havent had any issues at all with TB, and I used it for a long time. just recently I decided to try mybackup pro and was just wowwed by how much more streamlined the task was, even with options to restore call logs, text, contacts and so on. for me personally it just made for a much smoother restore especially with the well mapped gui. I do still keep TB installed as a alternate option though.
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I used several times Titanium Backup but only for user app and always worked well (no crashes, ...)
I've been trying out a few ROMs, and have had problems retaining or restoring apps when moving to a new ROM or restoring an old one. I'm using ROM Manager Premium, and MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my apps.
The problems I've had are:
1. Moved from Virtuous G-Lite to MIUI, using ROM Manager to download and install MIUI, and selected the option to backup my existing ROM. Before doing so I also backed up all my apps and data using MyBackup Pro. When I installed MIUI and tried to restore my apps using MyBackup Pro most of the apps failed to restore, saying something like "no market data found" for each app.
2. Restored Virtuous G-Lite from recovery mode, using the backup taken above. Many of the apps were not correctly restored - their app icons were set to the Android Market icon, and when I tried to run them I got "could not launch the requested activity". These were typically non-core apps that I'd downloaded from the market.
When restoring apps using MyBackup Pro I've selected the option to restore apps only (not data), as I'd previously had problems with apps force closing if I restored apps and data.
Can anyone recommend a tried and tested way of restoring apps cleanly after switching ROMs?
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I've been trying out a few ROMs, and have had problems retaining or restoring apps when moving to a new ROM or restoring an old one. I'm using ROM Manager Premium, and MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my apps.
The problems I've had are:
1. Moved from Virtuous G-Lite to MIUI, using ROM Manager to download and install MIUI, and selected the option to backup my existing ROM. Before doing so I also backed up all my apps and data using MyBackup Pro. When I installed MIUI and tried to restore my apps using MyBackup Pro most of the apps failed to restore, saying something like "no market data found" for each app.
2. Restored Virtuous G-Lite from recovery mode, using the backup taken above. Many of the apps were not correctly restored - their app icons were set to the Android Market icon, and when I tried to run them I got "could not launch the requested activity". These were typically non-core apps that I'd downloaded from the market.
When restoring apps using MyBackup Pro I've selected the option to restore apps only (not data), as I'd previously had problems with apps force closing if I restored apps and data.
Can anyone recommend a tried and tested way of restoring apps cleanly after switching ROMs?
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Titanium backup is the best app of all. Also when you switched roms, did you do a full wipe on your phone? Because usually backup apps sometimes stores the backups on the phone data so when you wiped the phone is lost all data. Hope this helps
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When I downloaded MIUI using ROM Manager I chose all three options (including wiping the Dalvik cache) - is that what you mean by wiping the phone?
When I backup my apps using MyBackup Pro I always backup to SD card, so the data should not be lost when wiping.
The specific error that I get when trying to restore my apps is "Android market link was not found"
I don't understand why it's trying to contact Android market if it's trying to restore an already-installed app?
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When I downloaded MIUI using ROM Manager I chose all three options (including wiping the Dalvik cache) - is that what you mean by wiping the phone?
When I backup my apps using MyBackup Pro I always backup to SD card, so the data should not be lost when wiping.
The specific error that I get when trying to restore my apps is "Android market link was not found"
I don't understand why it's trying to contact Android market if it's trying to restore an already-installed app?
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try backing up with titanium backup. its be the best out there.
this is because you wiped your data from ROM manager and not from recovery
best thing to do when youre going to switch to a new ROM is to back up your apps (using either titanium backup or my backup) and then reboot into recovery and from there you factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and battery stats THEN u flash the new ROM
some either use the g2superwipe, or something like that
but doing it this way is the best so you dont have to mess with half ass wipes that cause trouble when u want to restore your apps
With titanium backup pro
Go to menu
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Market doctor
That should fix broken market links
Also don't backup with Google if using tb
Under home
Settings
Privacy
Auto restore
Edit... Be advised that wiping battery stats just be done properly. Do your homework before you wipe battery stats
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With titanium backup pro
Go to menu
More
Market doctor
That should fix broken market links
Also don't backup with Google if using tb
Under home
Settings
Privacy
Auto restore
Edit... Be advised that wiping battery stats just be done properly. Do your homework before you wipe battery stats
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Or he can just use titanum backup to backup his apps lol
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I used MIUI and it's My Backup feature but it wasn't as awesome as Titanium Backup. Titanium Backup backs up your app and its associated data. Then when you restore all your apps/data it links everything back to the market so you can receive updates through the market. ROM Manager and Titanium Backup are two must haves for any user who has rooted their Android device and is playing with ROMs.
The apps that wouldn't restore for me with the whole market link thing were "blackmarket" apps. With those making sure you have saved the apk on your cpu or something seems important. I have titanium pro and mybackup pro.
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Another vote for Titanium Backup.
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Another vote for Titanium Backup.
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Same here. PRO key is worth the few $$.
And yet another vote for Titanium Backup--the pro key is worth the money, and I've personally found the app a lifesaver during "rom experimentation"
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And yet another vote for Titanium Backup--the pro key is worth the money, and I've personally found the app a lifesaver during "rom experimentation"
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yeah, but the pro version, because with the free one you have to re-install all your apps manually. It takes time when you have 100+ apps
I was hoping to learn the differences between certain backup methods. The most common i saw is via recovery (in my case twrp), via titanium backup and another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
First, in terms of "backup coverage" how do they compare to one another? Secondly, which among the three would most put ur phone back the way it was before u wipe or factory reset it
I hope you could input your opinions on this and suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
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A backup through recovery is a called a nandroid. This backs up everything on your phone including your ROM, kernel, apps, settings, etc. This will allow you to restore back to the previous state of your phone after doing a full wipe.
Titanium backup only backs up your apps and app data. This is useful when you want to switch ROMs and restore your apps in the new ROM.
Usually when switching ROMs I first use titanium backup, then I create a nandroid backup, and finally I flash the ROM. If I like the ROM I use titanium to restore the apps that I previously backed up, and if I don't like the ROM I restore my nandroid
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Doing a backup with twrp, cwm or thru adb (nandroid backups) are basically image files of your phone at any given moment in time. If you restore one of these backups your restoring your phone to exactly how it was at that moment in time. Titanium backup and Helium backup just backup cached data at that particular moment in time. Using these apps will only restore the data you specified when you did the backup and nothing else. Say you borked an install of a ROM, Titanium backup would be of no use in getting your phone working again as it only has data and not a system image. You would need the images backed up by twrp to get the phone working again then you could use the titanium backups to restore any newer data saved if say you used an old twrp backup.
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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With the pro version u can run a batch backup of all apps.
To do this open the app, press the menu button in the top tight corner, and select Batch.
Then choose Backup all user apps. From there you can select/deselect apps. When you are done choosing the apps that you would like to backup, click on the green check mark in the top right corner to start the backup.
vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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I stopped using Titanium and switched to Helium a while back and can't really remember how Ti works exactly. I do know you should never restore system apps data just user apps data so I don't even bother backing up systems apps. I think with Ti I would just do an initial backup of all user data and apps and then periodically do a backup of newer user data and apps, or something to that effect in the menu. I do like Helium better as its interface is better, never could figure out how to backup or restore sms, call logs and the dictionary using Ti. Helium is much more straight forward and simpler (not as many options) and it does backups on a set schedule to my box account. I'm sure you can do all that with Ti too it was just not a very clean app.
thanks again for the replies..
@ chromium96
i think it is the same as clicking the box with check icon beside the menu, it brings me to the page the same as where you are leading me to but in just one click. Though im not so sure if it is really the same one.
I did a backup now but made a user app + system data.
kzoodroid mentioned not to backup system. Should I really not backup the system? Im quite confused with the terminologies of TI coz it says backup "user apps". Does this only refer to the apps and not the settings or data in my phone? does the backup "system data" refer to the settings and other data on my phone? if I choose only backup "user apps", would this only backup the apps and nothing else?
@ kzoodroid
could you explain further why I should never backup systems apps?
Lastly, is Helium really better than TI? or it depends on user preference?
Thanks again!
there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
vinz_bangiz said:
Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
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right man,
only back-up user apps and data, if you like you can also back-up call log and messages, I usually do this, so when I flash a new rom I usually restore apps +apps data, messages and call log via Tb
vinz_bangiz said:
another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
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I found the ADB backup doesn't work as well as the other methods. I found some apps didn't seem to get backed up, and at least one didn't work after restoring (though this could be because I used Titanium Backup to restore the app from the ADB backup file).