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Have been playing around with Sprite and SPB Backup. They seem to do a good job of restoring the phone to the last backed up state. This is important for me, because my phone has been very moody and keeps hard resetting itself. Restoring from a backup brings back lot of my data and app installs. The thought of manually reinstalling everything make me shudder.
Now given the incredible rate at which chefs keep updating their ROMs, how do you keep updating to the latest, and then restore your settings and apps from a backup? I ran into strange errors when I updated from Topix 1.5 to 1.6 and tried to do a restore. The phone simply froze up. So that backup was useless and I had to redo all settings and reinstall all apps. My assumption is that system files would have changed when the ROM got updated, and the older ones from the backup were incompatible.
is there a better way of doing this? I would like to have the latest and greatest ROM, without having to reinstall apps or redo my email and facebook/ twitter settings. Update ROM, restore from backup, and you are done!
and sorry if this question is a repeat. i am a recent convert to windows mobile (thanks to hd2 - the hardware is too good to resist), and i am still finding my way around this wonderful forum.
Same question
I was searching xda-dev just to ask the same question...
Spb backup is great for backing up all contact data + all programs and their configs. It has saved me many times.
Now I want to do a rom upgrade (my first ;-) )...
Is there any shortcut to reinstall all programs and configurations with a Spb backup after doing a rom upgrade ?
May be restoring all except the windows directory ??
Thanks in advance.
It looks like you both need some advice!
it is a well known fact that you should ONLY use SPB/Sprite, if you are flashing EXACTLY the same rom.
However if you are flashing from ROM A -> ROM B you should NEVER use either of these programs as they can really damage your instalation.
you should use PIMBackup for this, it takes Contacts SMS/MMS etc,and you can assign custom files.
MoHed said:
I was searching xda-dev just to ask the same question...
Spb backup is great for backing up all contact data + all programs and their configs. It has saved me many times.
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So yes you can use it for this, BUT if you are suggesting this below:
MoHed said:
Now I want to do a rom upgrade (my first ;-) )...
Is there any shortcut to reinstall all programs and configurations with a Spb backup after doing a rom upgrade ?
May be restoring all except the windows directory ??
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This is INSANITY!! you will destroy your install!! you should never back up program instalations because it is to messy, just flash and reinstall you apps!
or use SASHIMI, which is an auto installer!!
SS
Spb backup did the job for me
Use the spb backup in the rom upgrade mode
Untick the "override file"
and it "almost restore" back to everything I was in before the rom upgrade without the need to reinstall all the applications and imput all the data all over again.
However in the htc sense stock page I got to import my stock data from my backup as the above process failed to restore it. Save and except for this issue I am overall very happy with the obove method of getting a better performing rom without the need of reinstalling all the applications and imputting the data all over again.
A very promising approach
Thank you both for the prompt and enlightening replies.
I have looked into Sashimi; it looks like it is too complex a process to go through if you are going to update rom once or twice a year.
Using Spb backup as described by Leslie Lee looks VERY interesting. I am definitely going to try it.
MoHed said:
Thank you both for the prompt and enlightening replies.
I have looked into Sashimi; it looks like it is too complex a process to go through if you are going to update rom once or twice a year.
Using Spb backup as described by Leslie Lee looks VERY interesting. I am definitely going to try it.
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PM me and ill explain sashimi!! (i have been using for 5 years abd i WILL NOT use a different app!! trust me it is that good!!)
I will show the way grasshopper!!
SS
Hello, I'm new to the Android world, but I've learned through your great forums how to make my HTC Hero shine! I installed a custom ROM (actually, I'm trying Roufianos 1.1 clean) an eng SPL, a modded revovery and the latest radio.
Every time I flash a new ROM, I have to re-download and re-install all the apps from the market, and setup again the 7 home screens with my preferred widgets and programs.
Is there a way to backup these data and restore them with ease?
I made a few searches but found nothing (maybe I tried the wrong words)
Thanks in advance!
I use titanium backup for my applications.
For the scenes I don't know, maybe there is a folder in which they are stored you could do a search on that.
thank you so much, Titanium backup is really a great app, and it saves the scenes too!!!
crespo80 said:
thank you so much, Titanium backup is really a great app, and it saves the scenes too!!!
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The other way is to try flashing without a wipe.
If this works (and I mean if) all you have to do is turn your phone on
and Voila!
Rhamsterman said:
The other way is to try flashing without a wipe.
If this works (and I mean if) all you have to do is turn your phone on
and Voila!
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Yeah, this could be a simpler solution, given the fact that now I swap betwenn ROMs based on the same 2.1 official release! But I always prefer the clean one, wipe and strike!
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Hello, I'm new to the Android world, but I've learned through your great forums how to make my HTC Hero shine! I installed a custom ROM (actually, I'm trying Roufianos 1.1 clean) an eng SPL, a modded revovery and the latest radio.
Every time I flash a new ROM, I have to re-download and re-install all the apps from the market, and setup again the 7 home screens with my preferred widgets and programs.
Is there a way to backup these data and restore them with ease?
I made a few searches but found nothing (maybe I tried the wrong words)
Thanks in advance!
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I tried Titanium backup but had problems with it being a bit unreliable, and about a few things not working once I'd done the restore.
I then tried MyBackup (after flashing again) and it worked a treat.
Couple of things though:
- Doesn't back up APN settings or wifi settings (there are other ways to do that, do a search)
- A single SMS got corrupted (making me unable to open messages from that person). Deleting that message thread solved the problem.
It DOES backup apps and your HTC scenes (and various other settings). I used the 30-day time limited version which is free. I'd happily pay the $4.95 for it, though in this case I didn't need to.
Hello everyone,
I'm not the type of person to ask for the answer and get the quick way out...I like to try and research, read and read more before asking for help.
Here is the problem:
Before I flashed my phone...I plugged in the usb and copied all folders and files on the SD card to a folder on my pc, just incase.
Then I followed the instruction to install a custom rom...I used Iced Glacier. I rebooted the phone and the Iced rom worked...after checking out the phone, to see what the Iced rom was all about, I realized I didnt use Ti to make a backup of all apps.
Here is the question:
Can I use the folders/files I copied to the pc, to add the apps back to the phone?
Thanks in advance for any help,
BK
Short answer is no...
If you had backup enabled with Google, your apps should auto install when you log into the market. Most of your data will be lost though...
Did you make a nandroid backup of your ROM? If you did, you could now backup your new install, restore your old system backup, use Titanium to backup everything from your old system backup, then switch back to your new install and use Titanium to restore everything...?
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First I want to thank you for taking out the time. I truly appreciate the help.
I read and re-read what you wrote...I kinda of understand but am not sure if the correct steps to take. When you get a chance, can you please try and explain further.
Thanks so much,
BK
What he is asking is did you make a backup of your stock rom before flashing ice-glacier? If so just go back into rom manager and restore your backup. After restoring, personally i prefer my backup root, because it backs up everything texts, bookmarks ect qnd it is one click for that stuff and one click for all your apps with their data instead of clicking once for each app. After doing your backup reflash I-G and redownload my backup root, run it and everything will be there
That's exactly what I meant...
Also, Titanium has a batch option in the menu, so you can one click backup and restore with Titanium also (you have to have the paid version for it to be effective, though)...
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thanks for the info...but have another question related to this.
I did make a backup before flashing...but here is the problems I'm trying to understand.
From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
So, if that is true and I use a app like backup root...will this just install every single app that was on the phone.
Im just trying to wrap my brain around this, sorry if it is very newbish
BK
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From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
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Depends on your definition of "bloat". Every ROM contains a collection of system applications.
Keep in mind. Nandroid backups are standalone system images. Titanium Backup and MyBackup and all the other Android apps that do backups are individual application backups. They often can do bulk restores, but that is not always desired or necessary.
You will find you will want both types of backup: Nandroid, and application.
You can also selectively backup and restore apps, so you get to chose what stays, and what goes...
Play around with Titanium and My Backup, and see what they are capable of...
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SO I want to go from the stock 2.2 Android software to the "Virtuous Unity Sense"
My main reasoning for this is,
- I want HTC's gingerbread sense, but it's still not yet released with no word on when it will be.
- Why not upgrade to version 3 if I am going to run a custom rom
Now I have my phone setup EXACTLY how I like it, all the apps took a long time to find and configure, everything works flawlessly and does everything I want it to do.
I assume to upgrade to unity sense I will have to format the phone's memory, what is the best way to backup all the apps and their configurations without loosing any performance or causing problems for the apps?
Also if I one day wanted to load the official HTC 2.3 update is it possible to "un-do" everything and go back to official software?
cheers
The general concensus on backing up is titanium backup. If you are willing to pay for the premium version, it will also do multiple level backup of your apps + data and on restoration, offers a silent installer (ie no need to tap install and done for every app) and it also give suggestions on what to back up at the system level. Hope that helps
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
i use QTADB its a program for the computer(Linux/Windows/OSX) will back up to you sdcard it works well and easy to use best of all its free(or though if you use it a lot you should donate)
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If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1)...
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I would assume he has the latest official 1.82 Froyo 2.2.1 ROM. At least this is what I have for many months now.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
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I see what you're saying, but you should be fine either way, because even in the downgrade process you have to obtain temproot prior to downgrading. so you obtain temp root, download tibu, create your backups, then continue the downgrade process.
once you're done with everything, download tibu again and restore backups. voila.
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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AreOh said:
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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yup, by miles
Never used My Backup. Ti backup was perfect for my use the first time i used it so i had no need to try other backups
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I will throw another recommendation for Titanium Backup Pro. Worth the few $$ and its easy to use. Remember, don't backup the 'System Data' unless you plan to restore it to the SAME type of ROM (aka wipe and reinstall the same ROM to fix a problem). Just backup 'Apps + Data'. And restore them on the new ROM.
Thanks for the tips in this thread, just thinking about rooting my phone. I already worked with titanium backup (free version) on my hero and that worked very well. But it has to be rooted and like pmcqueen said I can make the titanium backup before downgrading and after temproot Did not think of that yet.
I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching roms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
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I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
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I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried my the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching rooms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
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Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores, restoring apps+data, and even restoring system data when wiping and reinstalling CM7 nightlies, all with no problem.
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Same, I have over 100 apps to restore on a batch restore. Just gotta think smart about it. If you didn't install it from the market, then it probably came with the ROM... And things like Gallery and Clock are already in the ROM, so don't replace those.
Also, you should be running a ROM manager 'fix permissions' after batch restoring apps to fix any little problems.
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Apps that are stored in the "ROM" (i.e., in /system/app, which is normally mounted read-only) are shown in red in Titanium Backup. Apps that are installed by the user (i.e., in /data/app, which is mounted read-write) are shown in white. System settings are shown in green. You can use TB's filters to show only system apps or only user apps.
One major consideration is that Titanium Backup requires root. It will not run without root, even though some of the tasks it performs does not require root. MyBackup Pro will run without root, though it does not have all the features of TB. So if you are running a firmware release where you cannot even get temp root without first wiping the phone, you should use MyBackup Pro first. Or even if you can get temp root, you might feel safer having a backup first anyway.
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no I havent had any issues at all with TB, and I used it for a long time. just recently I decided to try mybackup pro and was just wowwed by how much more streamlined the task was, even with options to restore call logs, text, contacts and so on. for me personally it just made for a much smoother restore especially with the well mapped gui. I do still keep TB installed as a alternate option though.
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I used several times Titanium Backup but only for user app and always worked well (no crashes, ...)
So doing fresh installs of roms is hard work (you get the idea).
What is your way to restore the apps you use and love to get back as soon as your phone is fresh? What method do you use? Is there an/several apps or piece of software that you prefer? What do you think is the most effective solution?
Titanium backup works pretty well as long as you don't touch system apps.
Since the first release of Titanium Backup I only use that app. With pro version the restore of hundred apps is really quick. The only thing is a problem restoring account settings in nougat builds, which didn't work properly... But that's OK for all of time Titanium Backup saves to you
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Titanium backup works pretty well as long as you don't touch system apps.
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strongst said:
Since the first release of Titanium Backup I only use that app. With pro version the restore of hundred apps is really quick. The only thing is a problem restoring account settings in nougat builds, which didn't work properly... But that's OK for all of time Titanium Backup saves to you
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I know that titanium backup is very popular, but there might be something else out there, someone who has used titanium backup and figured out a better paradigm. A app name does not complete the story of a great restoring practice!
It's a start with two votes for the Titanium backup. But where do you store your data, because that is also not really clear. If you are paying I guess that you would use a web service, which one is the best? Or do you relay on your computer because it might be faster file transfers through USB then a web service? Because once the backup is done and it is time to wipe, nothing will be salvaged? Or do you go for the USB as android system mounted extend or as a separate sd-card disk? Here are lots of pro and cons.
I am probably being a little anal but I kept my Titanium backups on my SD card, Google Drive, and Dropbox. I really could tell no difference between Google and Dropbox as far as cloud storage goes. I played around with Hellium but I always liked the extras I used in TB like freezing/defrosting apps, SMS backups, converting user apps to system apps and on and on. It is a full featured app.
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I know that titanium backup is very popular, but there might be something else out there, someone who has used titanium backup and figured out a better paradigm. A app name does not complete the story of a great restoring practice!
It's a start with two votes for the Titanium backup. But where do you store your data, because that is also not really clear. If you are paying I guess that you would use a web service, which one is the best? Or do you relay on your computer because it might be faster file transfers through USB then a web service? Because once the backup is done and it is time to wipe, nothing will be salvaged? Or do you go for the USB as android system mounted extend or as a separate sd-card disk? Here are lots of pro and cons.
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I've not used any alternatives after I started with titanium so can't help you there.
For storing in case of flashing roms I just keep in the SD card cause that hasn't failed yet.
Only when I'm going from custom to stock or vice versa do I update my google drive backup. I use google drive because its faster for me than anything else no other reason.
USB backup to PC or a separate SD card might be required for only when you wipe storage (internal and SD) which I can't imagine when. But backup sometimes when you have connected the phone to your PC for any other reason. Otherwise I don't really do that much as it is too much of a bother.
OK I'm convinced. Could you tell me more about how you use titanium backup. What is your setups after all these years?
Do you make your own flashable collections?
(I purchased the pro Ti and connected Dropbox)
benedictusg said:
OK I'm convinced. Could you tell me more about how you use titanium backup. What is your setups after all these years?
Do you make your own flashable collections?
(I purchased the pro Ti and connected Dropbox)
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How to use titanium backup? Mate, there are tutorials out there and the help page, a little reading and trying and that's it. It's not difficult and there is no "setup" you need
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How to use titanium backup? Mate, there are tutorials out there and the help page, a little reading and trying and that's it. It's not difficult and there is no "setup" you need
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I have set it up and already know how to use it (been using it for years). I'm asking about how you use it and not how I should. Get it?
It is considerably more interesting to discuss "user cases". No manual or guide will ever give that because the approach to the question is different.
Not sure if anyone uses it still but I use Nandroid Manager for most of my restores but its hit or miss on working right since 6.0. Titanium just never seemed to work right for me. I almost got to the point of just letting Google restore my phone for me and just relogin to apps. Best to save everything to the cloud in my opinion then there's no worries. Lol