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Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college
Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]
Love the FAQ sig lol
mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.
Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro
mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time
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Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?
Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.
Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it
HTC Hero update to Android 2.1 pegged for mid-March
By Chris Ziegler posted Feb 9th 2010 5:35PM
We've known for ages that HTC's been working on yanking its custom-skinned Hero off of Cupcake's rusty frame, but so far, the only way to drop Android 2.0 or 2.1 on your phone has been to cheat, root, and load a custom or leaked ROM in place of the official first-party firmware. If you're too straightedge for that, though, keep the faith -- your binary isn't too far off. PR released today indicates that we can expect the Hero to get an Android 2.1 update with Sense in "mid March" according to HTC's Benelux team, and it'll feature a new Friend Stream widget that aggregates user updates across services (presumably a nod to Blur), tweaked Exchange support, and a handful of other goodies. This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-pegged-for-mid-march/
blah wtf!!!. Its good dont get me wrong but still sketch on the sprint update
Ugh, I'm sick of waiting. T-Mobile here I come.
And thats from HTC. So we can expect an additional wait time from Sprint doing their crappy app tweaks. Maybe they will finally get Sprint tv working.
This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
I heard from an HTC rep that for Sprint it will be Feb 22.
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This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
I heard from an HTC rep that for Sprint it will be Feb 22.
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Along the same lines...If sprint were to post their update after the HTC official drop does that matter? Can't this be flashed directly to our phones (with out the sprint apps obviously)?
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Along the same lines...If sprint were to post their update after the HTC official drop does that matter? Can't this be flashed directly to our phones (with out the sprint apps obviously)?
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I think Sprint has to handle getting their network settings configured, so the Hero knows what to connect to.
I just talk to an HTC rep today and they said the same thing.
I sure hope it comes soon since the Droid is getting theirs this week according to this website
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?v=feed&story_fbid=294428153158&ref=mf
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I think Sprint has to handle getting their network settings configured, so the Hero knows what to connect to.
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this!!!! i think this is whats taking all the time
So if what the HTC reps told the two above posters is correct (not holding my breath), would it be better to go ahead and go with HTC's 2.1 or wait until one of our devs cooks one up?
By the way that this forum is looking we should have a pretty good looking 2.1 here pretty soon anyway. Just wondering.
Gregalous said:
So if what the HTC reps told the two above posters is correct (not holding my breath), would it be better to go ahead and go with HTC's 2.1 or wait until one of our devs cooks one up?
By the way that this forum is looking we should have a pretty good looking 2.1 here pretty soon anyway. Just wondering.
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As soon as the HTC update drops, our devs will have it re-released for rooted users.. Probably within a day.
In short, if it drops, I'd wait at least 24 hours prior to installing the authentic version, because it'll close the loophole you used to root in the first place.
will we be able to go back?
Say we flash the rom the day it comes out...im dieing to try it... will we be able to use the recovery tools to unflash or will it somehow kill our recovery tools?
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Say we flash the rom the day it comes out...im dieing to try it... will we be able to use the recovery tools to unflash or will it somehow kill our recovery tools?
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From my experience with the PSP, DO NOT UPDATE YOUR PHONE! Give it a few days to make sure root is still possible or doable.
I'd wait until a dev cooks up a rooted version so you don't lose root.
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I'd wait until a dev cooks up a rooted version so you don't lose root.
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Here's an official build of 2.1 WITH SENSE running on a GSM Hero. Cool to see what we'll have to look forward to.
Video: HTC Sense on Android 2.1 enable pinch-to-zoom on home screen
I would rather wait for a custom Rom running 2.1 then use Sprints 2.1 Rom
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Here's an official build of 2.1 WITH SENSE running on a GSM Hero. Cool to see what we'll have to look forward to.
Video: HTC Sense on Android 2.1 enable pinch-to-zoom on home screen
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYDNlMYAaI
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Link fails: some CGI kid on a trike
EPIC on the march update but I want it now but who doesnt? I know I cant wait to un&*^& my market for my gmail account since i upped to a 2.0 AOSP rom signed in and went back to 1.5 forgetting about that from my android-vogue days and how it basically upgrades your market account then some apps purely wont be able to be found until you go back to that ver.
According to haykuro's twitter http://twitter.com/haykuro there's a leaked froyo around. all I currently know is that that the supposed link is to be found here: http://www.stevebirstok.com/android/froyoleak.zip
I'm at work and don't really have the time to test it / play with it. So anyone interested and who knows what he/she is doing is encouraged to do so.
Please post your experiences.
It's amazing! There's so many new features, it seems that it is missing most system apps so I believe that they WILL be putting them in the Market
April Fools!
Sweet just booted this on my Evo......
will this boot on a magic 32b??
Nice one for this!
Anyone tried this on a magic??
One query tho.. if most of the system apps are missing, soon to be found onthe market. How come the rom I over 60 Meg??
What other new stuff is there?
3D widget overlay is freakin sweet.
Lol, this is amazing. For the first time it runs directly over WM 6.5 roms. Great work!
Ok, maybe I just missed something but there are no instructions and the file extention is .xjf, What exactly am I supposed to do with this to test it out?
instructions are not included but a link to them is in the textfile. follow the link and read the instructions.
Amazingly enough it even installed on my non-rooted Desire! It really looks gorgeous.
Showing my ignorance here, but can these be used (on a G1 with DangerSPL) as a working production ROM or is it a technology tester?
ok I'm done waiting for the Magic 2.1 update!
HTC.. if you read this.. don't bother anymore.. I'm sticking with this leaked rom.
I can't find the instructions page...."PAGE NOT FOUND"
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I can't find the instructions page...."PAGE NOT FOUND"
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http://bit.ly/98jj3
working great on my dual-booted touch pro. thx!
Installed on Hero GSM. Works GREAT! But no automatic brightness!! Any fix for it?
*facepalms himself*
Fake... happy April fools
I just installed it on my cat! It's awesome!
runs great on my '72 aircooled veedub. even hd video is playing smoothly!
Very funny. I just tried to install this & it had defrosted. Now I've got yoghurt all over my phone.
2.1 ready just go on settings sistem update and download i am doing now good news !!!! for real...
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2.1 ready just go on settings sistem update and download i am doing now good news !!!! for real...
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As i said, and I'll say it again..
DO NOT INSTALL THIS UPDATE IF YOU NEED ROOT IN A FUTURE!
Why???!
I am one of those crazy ones who does not care about root. I did it once, and removed it. Call me crazy.
Installing now ...
PS what I mean, most people on this board would know this, and will have read your other posts about the subject.
On top, I am sure some genius will hack this one also and we can root it. It will just take a while longer.
andrei67 said:
2.1 ready just go on settings sistem update and download i am doing now good news !!!! for real...
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Sent from my HTC Hero
andrei67 said:
2.1 ready just go on settings sistem update and download i am doing now good news !!!! for real...
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You didn't see other threads?
can u pls tell me...is it available for Orenge uk also?????
jh71 said:
I am one of those crazy ones who does not care about root. I did it once, and removed it. Call me crazy.
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Oh I tell you, I was crazy once... didn't care about the root. Just wanted Android 2.1. I wanted it now. But then, in a moment of enlightenment, I listened to shadow_fi. And when HTC announced that there will be no further updates past 2.1 to Hero (at least CDMA, but I guess it applies to every other Hero), it was obvious that we shall not go down that evil OTA path... and so I flashed VillainROM 10.3.2 and hence my Hero will live happily ever after.
Just spoke with HTC Support and they said Orange and 3 OTA is delayed but by how much they would not say
jh71 said:
I am one of those crazy ones who does not care about root. I did it once, and removed it. Call me crazy.
Installing now ...
PS what I mean, most people on this board would know this, and will have read your other posts about the subject.
On top, I am sure some genius will hack this one also and we can root it. It will just take a while longer.
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That is becoming less and less likely with more people moving to other devices, if you flash this 2.1 chances are you will never be able to try new things like a froyo release
There is already a thread ** Official 2.1 UK UPDATE Thread ** .
Keep posts in the same area regards to this update then everyone can find it.
Hi everyone,
I just purchased a used Saphire (a Vodafone branded Magic, 32B, from a german) and i want to upgrade it's ROM before i give it to my girl (it's going to be her first smartphone ).
I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a good ROM for it. I definitely want HTC Sense to be on there, and if possible i'd prefer a 2.2 Froyo ROM.
It must be stable without bugs, cause my girl don't know squat about smartphones and i can't be there all the time to troubleshoot.
I've been looking around a bit in the development thread, but as i'm an old time WM user i'm completely unfamiliar with ROM flashing on Androids.
Can anyone give me a good recommendation for a stable ROM with Sense?
I'd really appreciate any tips
Moaske said:
Hi everyone,
I just purchased a used Saphire (a Vodafone branded Magic, 32B, from a german) and i want to upgrade it's ROM before i give it to my girl (it's going to be her first smartphone ).
I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a good ROM for it. I definitely want HTC Sense to be on there, and if possible i'd prefer a 2.2 Froyo ROM.
It must be stable without bugs, cause my girl don't know squat about smartphones and i can't be there all the time to troubleshoot.
I've been looking around a bit in the development thread, but as i'm an old time WM user i'm completely unfamiliar with ROM flashing on Androids.
Can anyone give me a good recommendation for a stable ROM with Sense?
I'd really appreciate any tips
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funny, but when i saw this thread, i noticed 97 views (in other words, 97 times people looked at the thread) but no replies...
probably because dont really think there's anything such as a "stable" modded rom
sure, many are quite stable but no modded rom (imho) is ever going to be 100%, fully, undeniably bug-proof
and adding in the sense requirement, well, good luck..
if it was me, i'd use cyanogenmod 6.1, or just stick to the stock 2.2 you can get from yer carrier
in fact, if i was giving it to someone else who cant do maintenance on their rom, i'd definitely stick with stock
I have recently bought a Vodafone UK Magic (32B Board), yesterday did a massive software rebuild on it and now have a stable Froyo 2.2 (Gio's Mod). Check out this thread for details (look at the last page for details of my setup before and after upgrade).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848791&page=6
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....if it was me, i'd use cyanogenmod 6.1, or just stick to the stock 2.2 you can get from yer carrier
in fact, if i was giving it to someone else who cant do maintenance on their rom, i'd definitely stick with stock
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You've got a good point there with a stock ROM. If set it up for her with it's stock ROM (1.6) for now.
And there is a stock 2.2 ROM for the sapphire (which wouldn't require rooting and alike)? This one 's got a 32B board (GSM/Europe).
Stock 2.2 would also be great performancewise i guess.
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You've got a good point there with a stock ROM. If set it up for her with it's stock ROM (1.6) for now.
And there is a stock 2.2 ROM for the sapphire (which wouldn't require rooting and alike)? This one 's got a 32B board (GSM/Europe).
Stock 2.2 would also be great performancewise i guess.
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these are the shipped roms for the sapphire 32b, perhaps your carrier's 2.2 OTA is in there
Thanks for the replies everyone!
But as of today it seems the question was unnecessary, because Vodafone today announced that they're going to roll out 2.2.1 to all their HTC Magic users in the UK and the rest of europe!
Ain't that great news?
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Thanks for the replies everyone!
But as of today it seems the question was unnecessary, because Vodafone today announced that they're going to roll out 2.2.1 to all their HTC Magic users in the UK and the rest of europe!
Ain't that great news?
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thats probably best, enjoy!
Moaske said:
Thanks for the replies everyone!
But as of today it seems the question was unnecessary, because Vodafone today announced that they're going to roll out 2.2.1 to all their HTC Magic users in the UK and the rest of europe!
Ain't that great news?
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Cool!
Any dates?
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Cool!
Any dates?
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Mine just updated itself yesterday: the notification for the bootloader update came in around noon, and after that it updated to 2.2.1.
It's a great update....first few minutes it renders the phone a bit slow. After taking it some good use it becomes very snappy
I suspect however that you need a stock ROM to be updatable, and judging from your sig you ain't got that running...
thanks
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Mine just updated itself yesterday: the notification for the bootloader update came in around noon, and after that it updated to 2.2.1.
It's a great update....first few minutes it renders the phone a bit slow. After taking it some good use it becomes very snappy
I suspect however that you need a stock ROM to be updatable, and judging from your sig you ain't got that running...
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Ah ok, its true I'm running a custom Froyo ROM right now and loving it. Don't know if I should try the Vodafone update out. Is it really worth it? Hows the vodafone mods on it, I hope they haven't overdone it.
If you've already got Froyo, then i don't see a reason for updating.
They've been very sparse with the Voda bloathware on this update though. You can only tell it's Vodafone by one small app and the boot-splash.
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If you've already got Froyo, then i don't see a reason for updating.
They've been very sparse with the Voda bloathware on this update though. You can only tell it's Vodafone by one small app and the boot-splash.
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Haha, well I don't want their app and I got rid of their red splash screen recently by flashing via fastboot. Now I've got a nice custom one, wouldn't change it back for anything lol.
Vodafone usually stuffs up the phone's OS, especially Sony phones...
I'm on the 32A with CM6.1 - works quite nice
Did you get the Sense UI with the new Vodafone update?