I have just recently started noticing that when trying to take a picture or a movie that on the "preview screen" there are lines that run vertically on the screen (in portrait view) or horizontal (while in landscape view) - they run from the top of the phone to the bottom.
I have looked very carefully at both the lens on the battery cover, and the lens on the actual camera (under the cover) they appear to be very clean.
I don't remember this being this way at all, and it wouldn't really bother me too much, but my pictures and movies seem to be affected by this. when i view a picture at first it looks ok, but when I zoom in further the lines are more apparent. (especially in the corners and top/bottom)
i attached a screenshot of the preview screen that kind of shows what I'm talking about (pay attention to the bottom and top of the picture to see the lines / distortion
* This seems to have happened within the last week. (older pictures don't have the lines on them)
* Haven't installed any new apps
* Running fresh 1.1
* Reboot doesn't help.
* Wifi and GPS off and still happens
Anyone else have this experience, or even better would be if someone fixed it.
-AndyS-
I have been running fresh 1.1 since it came out
I see what your talking about and from a photographic stand point. if it actually affects the photo when its taken and not just the preview I would say that there is something wrong with the sensor I would take it to sprint and have them check it out.
I have this same issue and it did not start until the MR release. Prior to that, the camera was pretty awesome.
I have been noticing this also and like the person above me stated... It didn't start until the MR release.
I have the same problem and I am also running Fresh 1.1. I started flashing right after I got it so I dont know if it was always like this. I have another Hero that has not been rooted, had the MR, and is taking great pictures. Tipharet and Doniiniicano, is your device rooted? and/or running a different ROM?? Sure a quick fix would be to bring it to Sprint, but I really dont want to deal with that.
if it was something to do with the MR then it is possible that they may have changed and or messed up the sensor settings.
BTW I am running Fresh 1.1 and have no problems.
This happens a lot in low light situations.. it did this on all my phones.. iphone, blackberry, Pre, Hero.. Cheap Sensors..
Im a photographer as well, and I can tell you there is a night and day difference in sensors in phones compared to regular cameras. I NEVER use my on phone Camera anymore.. because its so crappy.
night and day of course is different. However in low light situations I know for a fact that this did not start until the MR.
As far as the quality, for a phone it did not use to be that bad of a camera.
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I have the same problem and I am also running Fresh 1.1. I started flashing right after I got it so I dont know if it was always like this. I have another Hero that has not been rooted, had the MR, and is taking great pictures. Tipharet and Doniiniicano, is your device rooted? and/or running a different ROM?? Sure a quick fix would be to bring it to Sprint, but I really dont want to deal with that.
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Yeah Im rooted, with fresh 1.1 but this happened before I even started flashing.
It's just high-ISO noise.
jonnythan is right. I did some research on camera noise and also found Banding noise. Banding noise is highly camera-dependent, and is noise which is introduced by the camera when it reads data from the digital sensor. Banding noise is most visible at high ISO speeds and in the shadows, or when an image has been excessively brightened. Banding noise can also increase for certain white balances, depending on camera model. So I guess if your Hero has this, it sounds like the only option is to have the device replaced and take a gamble the new one doesn't do it....or hope 2.1 fixes it <fingers crossed>
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jonnythan is right. I did some research on camera noise and also found Banding noise. Banding noise is highly camera-dependent, and is noise which is introduced by the camera when it reads data from the digital sensor. Banding noise is most visible at high ISO speeds and in the shadows, or when an image has been excessively brightened. Banding noise can also increase for certain white balances, depending on camera model. So I guess if your Hero has this, it sounds like the only option is to have the device replaced and take a gamble the new one doesn't do it....or hope 2.1 fixes it <fingers crossed>
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Ive never seem banding like that but hey its a possibility I guess it may be more noticeable on a camera like this than it is on a slr.
my phone was like this day one. I thought it was suppose to be like this since when I take pics I'm in low light.
Dont forget that we also only have 65K color screens. that will cause banding as well..
http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/26/2007wfp-experiencing-severe-banding-on-gradients/
as an example
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my phone was like this day one. I thought it was suppose to be like this since when I take pics I'm in low light.
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Did you get it post or pre MR?
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hi all ive just contacted HTC uk line and asked about the camera issues with the pink/red tint in the midldle of the pictures and it seems that HTC expect a fair amount of people to complain before they will look at it, the person i spoke to took a htc hd2 out and tested it and she stated she had the same issue but untill enough people ring and complain its a bust
so if u want the camera sorted then look here and call to complain
http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
p.s. do u think the camera issue is software or hardware related
Is there a white balance manual adjustment anywhere? Haven't received my phone yet so can't check. I'm not talking about preset modes like "sunny", "couldy" and the likes, but somewhere where the colour temperature can be manually set? I'm a photographer btw
Edit: saw the other thread about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584675&highlight=pictures with pictures! Could have something to do with metering modes cos this looks like it's getting the white balance wrong on some kind of spot or centre metering mode. Is there an "average" metering mode at all? Might be worth a try.
hi theirs no color temperature settings but their are three metering modes
-touch focus (spot)
-center area
-average
some tests of white/cream door:- autowhitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
-------------spot----------------center area----------------average-------
some tests of stuff mag:- auto whitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
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some tests of stuff mag:- indoor whitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
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some tests of stuff mag closeup:-indoor whitebalance setting, super fine, everything else default, no flash
-------------spot----------------center area----------------average-------
if u have the time to change the settings depending on the lighting environment ur in, i.e. using the auto lighting setting gives red tints but with the indoor lighting settings its seems alot better dont u think, BUT its still visable
ouch, that white spot with the magenta halo thing is really bad. I'm kinda stumped on that one, especially as I can't have a play with it (and have no idea when I'll get mine!) I don't suppose you have an 18% neutral gray card lurking around you could take pictures of lol at least that'd give me a reference point. Sunny or cloudy settings might improve the overall appearance in daylight conditions rather than using the auto wb but it's never going to get rid of that much imbalance, even the left and right sides are different tones. While I'd never expect a picture from phone camera to be great, I'd certainly expect something better than that!
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ouch, that white spot with the magenta halo thing is really bad. I'm kinda stumped on that one, especially as I can't have a play with it (and have no idea when I'll get mine!) I don't suppose you have an 18% neutral gray card lurking around you could take pictures of lol at least that'd give me a reference point. Sunny or cloudy settings might improve the overall appearance in daylight conditions rather than using the auto wb but it's never going to get rid of that much imbalance, even the left and right sides are different tones. While I'd never expect a picture from phone camera to be great, I'd certainly expect something better than that!
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emm what is this "18% neutral gray card"
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emm what is this "18% neutral gray card"
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It is exactly what it says lol - a bit of card that's "officially" neutral grey - that's what we use to meter off to get the correct white balance in any lighting conditions.
A friend of mine should receive his phone before the end of the week, if he does I'll see if I can do some testing on the camera in daylight with a grey card and will let you know, of course
have you try to adjust white blance? Do not use auto model and choose something else. That may reduce the tint in the central area.
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if u have the time to change the settings depending on the lighting environment ur in, i.e. using the auto lighting setting gives red tints but with the indoor lighting settings its seems alot better dont u think, BUT its still visable
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yep the indoor setting for indoor shots is much better so at least it's doing *something* nearly right lol - auto settings are rarely good anyway but they should manage better than that.
I personally think this can be fixed with a ROM because if you read the 4winmobile.com review and look at the pictures they took in the main review with a pre release ROM the pink spot is very noticable
Then scroll down to the updated pics taken with a Retail O2 ROM and the spot doesnt seem to be there.
I dont have a HD2 yet, but when I do and if its has the pink spot I will be ringing up, as I suggest anyone else who has it does too
have you try to adjust white blance? Do not use auto model and choose something else. That may reduce the tint in the central area.
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when i say indoor light setting or auto light setting i ment to say " indoor whitebalance setting or auto whitebalance setting"
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I've got the English retail HD2 and there is NO tint.
All the pictures I've taken with my HD2 are great so far.
i have the english retail version too, please post ur device info, i.e. rom version and other info on the spec settings page
ROM version
1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
ROM date
10/26/09
Radio version
2.04.50.22_2
Now I looked again and there is a bit of a tint but almost not noticeable, if you don't know about it. Might be an issue with all HDs but frankly, I don't care too much, because it takes great pictures nonetheless.
The folks from GSMARENA.COM have posted their full review of the HD2. it seems that they've encountered the same phenomenon as described here - pinkish color cast towards the center of the frame, especially noticeable when viewing the thumbnails.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_htd2-review-418p9.php
maati said:
ROM version
1.43.405.1 (70124) WWE
ROM date
10/26/09
Radio version
2.04.50.22_2
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same on my device matey
maati said:
ROM version
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ROM date
10/26/09
Radio version
2.04.50.22_2
Now I looked again and there is a bit of a tint but almost not noticeable, if you don't know about it. Might be an issue with all HDs but frankly, I don't care too much, because it takes great pictures nonetheless.
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Exactly the same here - ROM and results. Several test photos both of plain surfaces (wall/paper/sky) and general photos and there might be the *slightest* tint to one or two if you look at them funny. Certainly there's nothing even remotely like the disaster pics posted here and elsewhere, thankfully.
If it is a ROM issue, it seems this is a solid working ROM.
Hi all,
I reported this issue to HTC and sent them some sample photos. I received the following reply within several minutes:
Dear Mr Bale,
We are aware of this issue at HTC and are currently looking into it.
Apologies for any inconvienience caused.
Best Regards,
HTC Technical Support.
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Colour tint issue
The halo of different colours would suggest chromatic abberation, which is hardware(lens) based so no fix possible.
Chromatic abberation normally shows up as fringing around contrasty edges (so could be anywhere in the picture depending on what you're shooting) not a massive magenta blob consistently in the middle of every single picture!
It's not C.A. you can notice this phenomenon with normal DSLR Cameras, which have exposed the sensor for long periods, and some parts of it being heated.
example - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2560/3670598368_1cc6f5f72e.jpg
Checkout the upper left corner.
whether the sensor is defective, or its mounting process causes this - I expect HTC to handle this problem by replacing the affected units.
I'm sure like me, many people here have installed the camera hotfix by now. is anyone else's flash super bright now after the second flash? taking pictures in the dark is near impossible now. all I get is a white blob of what should be the person I'm taking a picture of lol...
Yes mine is now super bright Ive not been able to tome it down yet
This problem has been discussed before on this forum (try searching for it) and has been a problem even before the hotfix. Looks like HTC will need to come out with a second hotfix.
Well, for me the hotfix worked realy well, and the flash now is better then ever.
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Well, for me the hotfix worked realy well, and the flash now is better then ever.
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Try to take a picture of something close to you. Or in a dark environment, take a picture of a person sitting right across the table from you.
Yes, using flash on close-in objects is useless. All you get is a bright picture. This ain't good.
Here is a picture I just made with my HD2.
It was takem 20cm away with flash on.
EDIT: Sorry, my mistake. Now it's the photo with flash.
RRibeiro
Is that picture with the lights on or off?
Problem happens with flash on in dark environments.
Still it's not a good picture. Look at the bottom of the picture, not good. There's room for improvement IMO.
Not just in dark environments, see attached pictures of HTC Official Online Store discount card (for scale, it's about the size of a credit card) taken at my office (with rather bright ambient light).
I installed the hotfix and I'm loving the camera now. Better color, better overall image. And the strange hue is gone. Also tested the flash, it's not the best flash ever of course, but coming from a no-flash at all (HD), I'm satisfied enough. It does the job fine.
try taking a photo of yourself at arms length
you'll be blind for a bit, plus the photo will be way too bright
totally agree...the hot-fix has now ruined all close up flash photographs as it just burns out to a bright white blob. Very poor.
(and in doing so they only managed to reduce, not eliminate the pink blob without the flash)
double post due to Bad Gateway...
I don't see anything that was "ruined" by the hotfix, it was the same without it.
Response From [ Amany (South East EU Support (Tech)) ]
Thank you for contacting us,
Regarding your enquiry, kindly follow the steps below:
Start>Settings>System>Remove Programs
Please remove the update you have installed and check the performance of the device. Kindly install the update once again.
Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
you'll find a toll free number that you can dial only from a landline.
Best Regards,
HTC Team
Working for me.
Fixed the bright flash issue... i just dont know how??
If this is a little late and the issue has already been addressed, then my apologies.
Anyway, Yesterday, i was becoming very annoyed with the sudden increase in flash power since the pink blob hotfix, so i started looking at what the problem might be.
Firstly it appeared that the problem was that the timing was slightly wrong with regards to the exposure. So i looked through all the settings and started switching features on and off in the hope that there might be an action that delayed the exposure long enough to get a good reading.
Basically this became boring very quickly as i was not getting any change in the result but while my attention lagged in the task, i must have made the essential change.
Now the flash works exactly as it did before the Hotfix!
Now the question is: who else still has this problem and would you be willing to try adjusting all the settings to achieve the same result... but this time with more attention to detail than i had.
As far as i can remember the setting i had adjusted were Shutter sound "ON" and wide-screen "ON", then went back and turned them off again.
Its a long shot, but something made it work.
For me, the flash is still too much bright. I have to disable it. And the HTC update didn't solve the pink blur at all. And i don't talk about the JPEG compression which is awful.
Well this camera is just a disaster ...
Lucius Snow said:
For me, the flash is still too much bright. I have to disable it. And the HTC update didn't solve the pink blur at all. And i don't talk about the JPEG compression which is awful.
Well this camera is just a disaster ...
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Agree about the flash power... only way for a hotfix to address that issue would be to decrease the duration of the flash when it fires.
Disagree about the camera being a disaster overall... with the hotfix and the settings tweaked (contrast +4, sat +3, sharpness +4), the HD2 camera takes pics that are pretty-much identical in overall quality to my Nokia N95 8GB.
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Agree about the flash power... only way for a hotfix to address that issue would be to decrease the duration of the flash when it fires.
Disagree about the camera being a disaster overall... with the hotfix and the settings tweaked (contrast +4, sat +3, sharpness +4), the HD2 camera takes pics that are pretty-much identical in overall quality to my Nokia N95 8GB.
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Compared to my previous phones (Asus P525 and P750), the quality is very bad when you look the picture at 100% of the real size. All JPEG artefacts are hudge. I prefer a medium resolution and good JPEG compression than high resolution and bad JPEG compression.
First of all I would like to say I LOVE this phone, its the best Android phone I have used thus far and I came from the HTC one, S4, and note 2.
Now here is whats making me insane, lg imposes this extreme low light processing which causes the image to become brighter at night, now thats completely fine with images I don't mind it, but with video seeing as we can't disable it, it makes videos taken during lowlight/indoor lighting horrid, any movement introduced causes blur and ghosting (even under the 1080p 60fps mode). I also have an iphone 5s and while the video is definitely darker, there is no issue with blur or ghosting.
This is not a bug, it is not a malfunction, its a feature that LG imposes on the camera, I was just wondering if there was some way to disable it from activating. If you guys don't understand what I mean I can make videos to show you the difference.
mobiousblack said:
First of all I would like to say I LOVE this phone, its the best Android phone I have used thus far and I came from the HTC one, S4, and note 2.
Now here is whats making me insane, lg imposes this extreme low light processing which causes the image to become brighter at night, now thats completely fine with images I don't mind it, but with video seeing as we can't disable it, it makes videos taken during lowlight/indoor lighting horrid, any movement introduced causes blur and ghosting (even under the 1080p 60fps mode). I also have an iphone 5s and while the video is definitely darker, there is no issue with blur or ghosting.
This is not a bug, it is not a malfunction, its a feature that LG imposes on the camera, I was just wondering if there was some way to disable it from activating. If you guys don't understand what I mean I can make videos to show you the difference.
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There is a modded camera you can use in order to fix the video low light (low frames) issues.Must have root tho and recovery in order to do so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900
woof123 said:
There is a modded camera you can use in order to fix the video low light (low frames) issues.Must have root tho and recovery in order to do so.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900
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Thanks for the response I am glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this.
mobiousblack said:
Thanks for the response I am glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this.
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Your welcome,hopefully soon we will have even better mods from the guys that are trying to help us.
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Your welcome,hopefully soon we will have even better mods from the guys that are trying to help us.
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I hope lg eventually decided to give us the option to choose, basically decrease exposure to get better fps in low light. I prefer to keep my devices unrooted so I don't loose OTA updates but I'm glad that someone actually fixed it. If it gets too annoying I might eventually root
Hey,
Can I get some full quality pictures posted from the Note 4 Front Camera? Good & Bad lighting, With and Without Beautyface.
They don't need to be selfies, but I would like a few to be.
I noticed my Note 4 when taking front camera pictures and selfies suck compared to my Note 3.
I tried recreating the same pictures (same room, same lighting, same angle) I took with the Note 3 and the White Balance is way off, there are more artifacts, and distortion, and the pictures really are not in focus, especially at a minor distance on the Note 4. Even lights in pictures have an starburst/halo effect that others don't seem to get on the same shot.
I contacted Samsung and they had me pretty much clear app cache and data and factory reset the mobile. Not much help.
I wanted to see if this is just the norm for the Note 4 or if I have a bad cmos sensor or whatever before I send it for repair or exchange.
With full spectrum daylight led and cfl bulbs, all front pictures are yellow hueued. Adjusting the white balance helps, but shows more artifacts and can't be done in apps like snapchat, skype, google hangouts... pretty much anything you would use a front camera for that's not a camera app selfie. I even have a softbox setup with proper professional lighting and images show up with lots of artifacts and halos.
It's almost as if it's ever slightly out of focus and when the system API jpeg compresses it, it shows sloppy artifacts.
My cat took a selfie the other day! Lol! Not sure if this will get alot of replies. Most of us are too ugly for front camera shots
sino8r said:
My cat took a selfie the other day! Lol! Not sure if this will get alot of replies. Most of us are too ugly for front camera shots
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Thanks, they don't have to be face shots. Like point it at a bottle of something with text on it or pictures.
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Thanks, they don't have to be face shots. Like point it at a bottle of something with text on it or pictures.
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Yeah I know. Couldn't resist though. Hehehehe! I'll play around with it some and see if I notice what you mentioned. What rom are you using? Have you tried the camera mod and talked to the guy who's been modifying the camera apk? Here's the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/mod-camera-quality-mod-t2917502
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Yeah I know. Couldn't resist though. Hehehehe! I'll play around with it some and see if I notice what you mentioned. What rom are you using? Have you tried the camera mod and talked to the guy who's been modifying the camera apk? Here's the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/mod-camera-quality-mod-t2917502
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I'm on Stock Rooted Rom.
I have used multiple apps with the same result.
Apps that allow you to adjust the exposure and white balance can compensate a little.
I have a feeling when Android 5.x is released for our phones, if Samsung updates the driver to allow raw images, things would get a lot better.
It would be nice if you could adjust camera variable defaults in the OS for applications that don't provide an interface to them.
I am definitely going to check out that modded camera app. Thanks for pointing me at it.
Even if it doesn't make a difference, "No audio interruption if listening to music" alone is worth it.
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I'm on Stock Rooted Rom.
I have used multiple apps with the same result.
Apps that allow you to adjust the exposure and white balance can compensate a little.
I have a feeling when Android 5.x is released for our phones, if Samsung updates the driver to allow raw images, things would get a lot better.
It would be nice if you could adjust camera variable defaults in the OS for applications that don't provide an interface to them.
I am definitely going to check out that modded camera app. Thanks for pointing me at it.
Even if it doesn't make a difference, "No audio interruption if listening to music" alone is worth it.
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Yeah mine seems a little like that with the modded camera. I noticed the yellowed tint a little but it seems to be related to the lack of flash and it seems like it's being processed like it's in low light mode to make up for lack of a flash. Have you tried in day outside with alot of light? Might help a little. Not a fan of those low light/night modes. They are alway pixeled up and blurry. Look like sh!t most of the time. I've never used the front facing camera much on my phone or even on my computer. All my friends, family, and gf live here in town so I haven't had much need for it much. Sucks, I know, for those who need it. But!... Like you said, the lack of timer, audio interruptions and now that the camera works while on a phone call makes the camera mod worth it. Maybe the driver could be modded or at least the software related to it could be cleaned up by a dev or future updates might improve stuff some. You never know... Let us know if you think the camera mod helped any with the FFC at all. I just don't use it enough to know for sure. Thanks!
Selfie
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Thanks donnyp1, it appears you have Christmas spirits in there. You're in the spirit, you have spirits (drinks), and it looks like there is a Christmas Spirit hovering behind you guys.
All over it. This phone takes great selfies. This wasnt one of my better ones. Merry Christmas
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Representin'
I thought this might be appropriate...
The AT&T version never took sloppy shots. I'm experiencing a poor performing front facing camera on the T-Mobile Note 4 as well. Solution is, use the rear facing camera.
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Hey,
Can I get some full quality pictures posted from the Note 4 Front Camera? Good & Bad lighting, With and Without Beautyface.
They don't need to be selfies, but I would like a few to be.
I noticed my Note 4 when taking front camera pictures and selfies suck compared to my Note 3.
I tried recreating the same pictures (same room, same lighting, same angle) I took with the Note 3 and the White Balance is way off, there are more artifacts, and distortion, and the pictures really are not in focus, especially at a minor distance on the Note 4. Even lights in pictures have an starburst/halo effect that others don't seem to get on the same shot.
I contacted Samsung and they had me pretty much clear app cache and data and factory reset the mobile. Not much help.
I wanted to see if this is just the norm for the Note 4 or if I have a bad cmos sensor or whatever before I send it for repair or exchange.
With full spectrum daylight led and cfl bulbs, all front pictures are yellow hueued. Adjusting the white balance helps, but shows more artifacts and can't be done in apps like snapchat, skype, google hangouts... pretty much anything you would use a front camera for that's not a camera app selfie. I even have a softbox setup with proper professional lighting and images show up with lots of artifacts and halos.
It's almost as if it's ever slightly out of focus and when the system API jpeg compresses it, it shows sloppy artifacts.
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That's an unfortunate answer.
I notice with face beauty set to 4 and up it creates a blur effect so I slide all the way off and my images are sharper but I haven't noticed and yellow tint that some of you are reporting.
Image looks clear and sharp before pressing the shutter but for some reason after it has took the shot and i view it's not as sharp and is slightly blurry, anyone notice this, steady hand by the way so it's not shaking that's for sure.
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Image looks clear and sharp before pressing the shutter but for some reason after it has took the shot and i view it's not as sharp and is slightly blurry, anyone notice this, steady hand by the way so it's not shaking that's for sure.
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Yes a little.
It helped if I pressed on the subject I wanted in focus, if that makes sense?
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Yes a little.
It helped if I pressed on the subject I wanted in focus, if that makes sense?
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Manually focus (press the subject) is always recommended.
Yes that help a bit, so the autofocus is off or these cameras are not as detailed as they're saying, starting to lose faith in this phone, don't want to keep hold of it too long waiting for software that may or not fix these issues because it may not be accepted back.
Blurry or not in focus? These are two different problems. One is caused by lack of OIS \ hand movement, the other is just focus lock miss (can be corrected by tapping the object before).
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Blurry or not in focus? These are two different problems. One is caused by lack of OIS \ hand movement, the other is just focus lock miss (can be corrected by tapping the object before).
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I would say more not in focus than blurry even though edges of objects tend to fringe over and are a bit blurry depending on the shot. I get the manual focus thing, but what is the point of auto focus if it doesn't work correctly ? I don't have to manually focus shots on my cannon powershot sx 730 hs, I've never had an issue with focusing on any of my previous phones, hopefully it will be fixed in an update, even though there was already an update out the box with "camera optimisations" allegedly done, but obviously not quite right imo.
Another shot i just took if you look at the bottom of the mug where the text is, very clear in the viewfinder before the shot then after the shot suddenly gone out of focus, tried all settings no difference.
I find the photos of OP5 to be blurry too. They are way more blurrier than 3T.
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Another shot i just took if you look at the bottom of the mug where the text is, very clear in the viewfinder before the shot then after the shot suddenly gone out of focus, tried all settings no difference.
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Are you taking photos in portrait mode? It seems like bokeh effect.
I've a quick question..since we're talking of cameras did you notice that in pro mode you'll have to tilt the phone slightly to the left in order to achieve a balanced line (as in the line turns green signalling the camera is balanced)? I tried keeping it straight in a table but the it always shows it's imbalanced...can anyone confirm? I really really hope I don't have a faulty piece...
Ok guys done more testing, it definitely is not focusing correctly, just gone to pro mode and left everything on auto but just adjusted the focus manually and it's way better. So all i can think of what is happening is after you take the shot in auto mode it's knocking the focus off slightly, look at the box of toys in manual focus then the other, also look at the numbers on the train then my manual focus version.
Edit, quality has changed slightly since uploading to xda.
Areebanwar said:
I've a quick question..since we're talking of cameras did you notice that in pro mode you'll have to tilt the phone slightly to the left in order to achieve a balanced line (as in the line turns green signalling the camera is balanced)? I tried keeping it straight in a table but the it always shows it's imbalanced...can anyone confirm? I really really hope I don't have a faulty piece...
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If you you have to tilt slightly to the left then yes just noticed that myself.
Ady1976 said:
Ok guys done more testing, it definitely is not focusing correctly, just gone to pro mode and left everything on auto but just adjusted the focus manually and it's way better. So all i can think of what is happening is after you take the shot in auto mode it's knocking the focus off slightly, look at the box of toys in manual focus then the other, also look at the numbers on the train then my manual focus version.
Edit, quality has changed slightly since uploading to xda.
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The difference is so marginal that i don`t see the difference between the 2 pics to be honest. Maybe its an issue for you but for me it looks like nitpicking. But you can wait for a firmware update or return/RMA the device.
Areebanwar said:
I've a quick question..since we're talking of cameras did you notice that in pro mode you'll have to tilt the phone slightly to the left in order to achieve a balanced line (as in the line turns green signalling the camera is balanced)? I tried keeping it straight in a table but the it always shows it's imbalanced...can anyone confirm? I really really hope I don't have a faulty piece...
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gee2012 said:
The difference is so marginal that i don`t see the difference between the 2 pics to be honest. Maybe its an issue for you but for me it looks like nitpicking. But you can wait for a firmware update or return/RMA the device.
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It's marginal on here because xda has compressed the images so the focused one looks worse than it should.
Ady1976 said:
It's marginal on here because xda has compressed the images so the focused one looks worse than it should.
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Maybe share the pics on google drive to see the difference.
Okay thank you! I doubt it's a manufacturing defect..probably the software. Someone with a keen eye(unlike myself) could take a look at the camera module to see if it's a little shifted downwards...I feel so..I maybe(hopefully) wrong though!
And yes, I compared the photos/viewfinder with 3t.. it's pretty blurry! The EIS doesn't seem to kick in...
Ok 2 original images on zip, manual vs auto, don't use Google drive but here's originals in zip format.
Areebanwar said:
Okay thank you! I doubt it's a manufacturing defect..probably the software. Someone with a keen eye(unlike myself) could take a look at the camera module to see if it's a little shifted downwards...I feel so..I maybe(hopefully) wrong though!
And yes, I compared the photos/viewfinder with 3t.. it's pretty blurry! The EIS doesn't seem to kick in...
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Yep I'm not going insane then, just blurry out of focus shots a lot.
Last example, good lighting, I've labeled them in focus and out of focus in zip, look at the numbers and look look at the coloured buttons at the top of the train, I'm not saying it's much but I've seen enough to see pro mode manual focus is better to my eyes.
Ady1976 said:
Last example, good lighting, I've labeled them in focus and out of focus in zip, look at the numbers and look look at the coloured buttons at the top of the train, I'm not saying it's much but I've seen enough to see pro mode manual focus is better to my eyes.
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I know that your evidence points to your conclusion, but I can assure you that the focus is not the culprit here.
The issue is the postprocessing. OnePlus uses a muli-picture postprocessing to remove noise.
When you switch to manual mode, the amount of postprocessing used is highly minimized, because it is of course supposed to be a manual mode.
This is the exact same behavior the OP3/T has.
Check this video I did a while ago and keep in mind that nothing has changed since then and this is still happening on my device in auto-mode, mostly in artifical / dim lighting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Try for yourself by quickly going into the preview after taking the picture (although the OP5 processing might be faster).
Also, check the exif data in your photos!
The "in-focus" photo uses only half the ISO (320) and half the shutter speed (1/25s) compared to the "out-of-focus" photo with ISO 640 and 1/50s in auto-mode.
The out of focus photo should be at least as sharp, due to the quicker shutter-speed, but the higher ISO + postprocessing kills it!
The same applies to your first comparison (manual focus.jpg vs auto focus.jpg).
ISO is higher in auto-mode -> software applies more postprocessing due to more noise -> picture is killed
So after a year since the OP3's release nothing changed and the software still suffers from the same problems.
Really disappointing!
AcmE85 said:
I know that your evidence points to your conclusion, but I can assure you that the focus is not the culprit here.
The issue is the postprocessing. OnePlus uses a muli-picture postprocessing to remove noise.
When you switch to manual mode, the amount of postprocessing used is highly minimized, because it is of course supposed to be a manual mode.
This is the exact same behavior the OP3/T has.
Check this video I did a while ago and keep in mind that nothing has changed since then and this is still happening on my device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Try for yourself by quickly going into the preview after taking the picture (although the OP5 processing might be faster).
Also, check the exif data in your photos!
The "in-focus" photo uses only half the ISO (320) and half the shutter speed (1/25s) compared to the "out-of-focus" photo with ISO 640 and 1/50s in auto-mode.
The out of focus photo should be at least as sharp, due to the quicker shutter-speed, but the postprocessing kills it!
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Interesting i shall check this out, but if that's the case why use so much processing in auto mode ? Why don't they leave the processing as the manual mode in auto mode when it is clearly much better ? I just don't get it.