after doing the 8 thingy, i get north... but when i change orientation, the earth's north pole shifted LOL
i don't get what you mean with the earth's north pole shifted, but yes, mine works pretty good
try gyrator2 and rotate to 180 degrees
north and south will switch places then
that was a joke in a bad way ! what i meant was my North will not be at the right position accurately... it is off each time i switch my phone..
well if you have a case with a magnetic closure like I do, that will give you this effect...
whats that? is there any way to reset the compass or upgrade the software or something...
it is no where near accurate...
for example north is being shown to my right... i change the orientation of my phone by 90 degrees.. now north becomes my front / front right.. but never right again..
no one knows how?
It's crap in comparison to those on other devices. For example, my friend has a Nokia N900 and when he was around my house a few weeks back he had his maps application running in my front room and it was turning smoothly and instantaneously in real time depending where he pointed it. I couldn't even get the HD2 compass to get past the 'figure of 8' request without going outside the house, it simply doesn't work indoors.
It's not very good in my opinion.
ITT: People learn about "magnetic interference".
Pagnell said:
It's crap in comparison to those on other devices. For example, my friend has a Nokia N900 and when he was around my house a few weeks back he had his maps application running in my front room and it was turning smoothly and instantaneously in real time depending where he pointed it. I couldn't even get the HD2 compass to get past the 'figure of 8' request without going outside the house, it simply doesn't work indoors.
It's not very good in my opinion.
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Maybe you don't know what a figure-8 pattern is.
Mine always works inside, actually never even tried it inside.
Plus, there is an app available that will give the exact same possibility with nav software.
Come on guys,get real...the compass "feature" is purely a typical iphone app and thats all it'll ever be...if you need serious accuracy you'ld be map relying on any electronic compass thats small and affordable enough to hold in your hand. If you need accuracy get a real compass and make sure its calibrated and nowhere near a magnetic field...
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Come on guys,get real...the compass "feature" is purely a typical iphone app and thats all it'll ever be...
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True, but it is fairly useful for remembering where I parked the car while at the mall
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Come on guys,get real...the compass "feature" is purely a typical iphone app and thats all it'll ever be...if you need serious accuracy you'ld be map relying on any electronic compass thats small and affordable enough to hold in your hand. If you need accuracy get a real compass and make sure its calibrated and nowhere near a magnetic field...
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The compass hardware can be used for a lot more useful stuff.. Like a more accurate 'direction' in navigation programs.
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Maybe you don't know what a figure-8 pattern is.
Mine always works inside, actually never even tried it inside.
Plus, there is an app available that will give the exact same possibility with nav software.
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Very droll. Maybe you live in an empty house.
My point was that, unlike the N900, it wouldn't work in my living room.
I compared the HD2 compass directly to the app on an iPhone 3GS. The 3GS app was way more responsive, but both showed the EXACT same directions and were diverted the same way by magnetic interference.
The only problem I see is, that the app is quite slow, but other than that its not worse.
I compared it with the iPhone 3GS as well, and found both to have approximately the same accuracy and the same responsiveness.
Also both are heavily influenced by computers and other magnetic objects. Best results are obtained when outside without any electronic or metal objects around
If you guys want to combine the compass direction with gps navigation, have a look at GpsModDriver.
barty22 said:
both are heavily influenced by computers and other magnetic objects.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571266
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Remind me again exactly what the HD2 is,oh thats right,exactly what you need to keep the compass app away from...how you gonna manage that then?
(I've only used your post barty as it nicely sums up the problem with this sort of app...nothing personal intended before anyone tries to start the flames a burnin)
btw how does a digital compass works?
so is it true that our HD2 DC is FuBar
My digital compass also does not work other than with Google Earth! I just want it to show me my approx location and height for even in places without wireless signals. I've been doing the 8 thing all over with no success. Any solutions?
ara1 said:
My digital compass also does not work other than with Google Earth! I just want it to show me my approx location and height for even in places without wireless signals. I've been doing the 8 thing all over with no success. Any solutions?
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Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
i believe that there is a point og g to activate
and thats if
a timer deside when the contex menu come about
normal touch screens even pasive digtizers on tablet pc's
only do on and off registration
active digitizerts on tablets though support preasure measuring
That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
haha u read the words outa my mouth ;x that would be gangster tho
Alternatively you could try making some scales into a phone.
Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
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Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Now you're onto it. The possibilities are endless. I give it another 5 years before we see similar applications. Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston right now is already texting barcodes as boarding passes that can be scanned.
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
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Oh, oregano! Makes sense with your screen name being Chef
A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
I think we're onto something here. We need better touchscreens that can handle more force.
Imagine the perfect windows mobile diet phone which can tell you how much weight you've put on, find you a diet plan online. And order a pizza when it can tell you don't care anymore.
Who cares about fingertip scrolling when we finally bring the phone into the real world and make it fix other problems too.
I think a built-in stun device would be cool. And a personal alarm. A decent torch. A proper flash camera with a zoom feature. Maybe we make the zoom strong enough and big enough to take a person's weight. Who needs stepladders anymore!
I think a built in printer could help but needs to support full A4 sheets. Maybe it can scroll up and down a page until it's printed. And can we adjust the camera so it can act like a proper scanner? A portable colour photocopier is born!
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
i really think theres no such thing as ultimate application
i really depend on how this application will help your needs and so that way it will be very useful
peace
speoples20 said:
A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
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I'm sorry council...I don't recall.
littld said:
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
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It should of course be able to monitor ovulation, blood pressure, heart rate (full ECG), blood oxigen level, blood sugar level, prothrombin ratio and last, not least my need for coffee.
And my next SIP should read my mind. Voice control and T9 are a bit old fashioned, right?
I want a phone that also works as a lightsaber.
if you smoked the "oregano"
all applications you come up with seem ultimate
and all old cake leftovers taste like the best thing in the world
(or so i've been led to believe...)
You are better off getting to know your “oregano” and learn to estimate the weight accurately. Maybe if you would need this for “sugar” or “brown sugar”, weighting something under 5g’s would be in some use.
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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and why do you need to weigh grams on your phone?
I'm thinking of deconverging myself to two devices. I currently use my htc herald as my daily driver. I need to read a lot thesedays, so, small screen is not going nice for me. I'll be using athena as a standalone, non-connected device. I also have nuts on the newly released ipaq 210. Since, athena has 8GB HDD, it would be great to store my PDFs and movies.
The only thing that bugs me about athena is its magnet thing. I've head that it can destroy/format HDDs of laptops; discharge the parking cards(magnetic ones) etc. Is there anyway to stop this?
Also, putting it in its factory case removes the magnetic effect?
no the factory case is not also magnetised, without the phone being in it
the keyboard is the only magnetic part...
if dont use the keyboard you have nothing to worry about
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the keyboard is the only magnetic part...
if dont use the keyboard you have nothing to worry about
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So, the main unit does not have magnets..right?
No,that's not correct.The main unit does have magnet. It's even labelled on the bottom of the unit itself.
However, I've never found it to be an issue.
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No,that's not correct.The main unit does have magnet. It's even labelled on the bottom of the unit itself.
However, I've never found it to be an issue.
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so the reports making the parking lot cards and formatting the HDDs are fake? hmm.. athena here i come
kdskamal said:
so the reports making the parking lot cards and formatting the HDDs are fake? hmm.. athena here i come
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I won't discount those report. I carry it without keyboard with a belt pouch. Therefore it never had a chance to come into contact with credit cards and parking tickets.
I've heard that the keyboard's magnet is much stronger than the magnet in the device. FWIW.
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I've heard that the keyboard's magnet is much stronger than the magnet in the device. FWIW.
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Just tested it, and I can confirm that the keyboard magnet is very much stronger than the device's.
I will test a parking ticket with just the magnet device and try to deliberately wipe out its data later and report the result later.
I too am a little concerned about the magnet but don't see myself carrying around that keyboard since it makes it bigger. Also the screen on the Advantage is so big using a on screen keyboard like PCM should be fine. No?
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I too am a little concerned about the magnet but don't see myself carrying around that keyboard since it makes it bigger. Also the screen on the Advantage is so big using a on screen keyboard like PCM should be fine. No?
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Using on-screen keyboard works better for me. As long you choose the on screen keyboard wisely, you should have enough real estate left to still see what you're doing. I stay away from the full screen keyboard of course. Very large ones like Finger Touch, the iphone skin of Resco, Tengo Thumbs Touch Pal, are all too big. I use Resco default skin and Tengo Nano.
Without the keyboard, tt's easire to slot this GPS into my device holder in the car without case and keyboard.
I did test it on a parking card and yes, the parking card now does not work. So, I took my associates employee badge (with magnetic strip), Put the keyboard on it for about a half hour...Now he needs another badge...So the keyboard must have a strong magnet. Although, I carry my athena on my side in a carrying case right next to my wallet and have never had any problems with my credit cards, etc...So ican it needs direct contact for a while, not the occasional wave over, etc....
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I did test it on a parking card and yes, the parking card now does not work. So, I took my associates employee badge (with magnetic strip), Put the keyboard on it for about a half hour...Now he needs another badge...So the keyboard must have a strong magnet. Although, I carry my athena on my side in a carrying case right next to my wallet and have never had any problems with my credit cards, etc...So ican it needs direct contact for a while, not the occasional wave over, etc....
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Holy ****! Can you do a test on the magnets on the device?
eagle 1 said:
I did test it on a parking card and yes, the parking card now does not work. So, I took my associates employee badge (with magnetic strip), Put the keyboard on it for about a half hour...Now he needs another badge...So the keyboard must have a strong magnet. Although, I carry my athena on my side in a carrying case right next to my wallet and have never had any problems with my credit cards, etc...So ican it needs direct contact for a while, not the occasional wave over, etc....
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OMG, what in the hell were the engineers at HTC thinking while designing athena?
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OMG, what in the hell were the engineers at HTC thinking while designing athena?
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I know. The lack of an earpiece and the implementation of those magnets keeps this from being the "perfect" device IMHO.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet4.htm
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,116572-page,1/article.html
kdskamal said:
OMG, what in the hell were the engineers at HTC thinking while designing athena?
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I really don't think there is anything wrong with the Athena Magnets. I have had mine for many months, and have never accidently had any issues due to the magnets. Yes, I have used them intentionally to try and mess up parking cards, employee badges, etc. but overall, seems to work well to attach the keyboard. ANd a lot of pouches and cases have used magnets for years.
Destroying card info. yes but not strong enough to wipe out the hard drive. Just in case you are wondering there is huge magnet motor reside in your hard drive.
Rudegar said:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/magnet4.htm
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,116572-page,1/article.html
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May be some of the parking cards are more fragile to magnets then
But now atleast I'm less worried about the magnets
PS: the earpiece thing aint going to bother me. I'll be buying myself a SE K850i for tele communications
Just get an audio addaptor to go from the mini USB to 3,5MM socket if you want headphones wired to the device - works a treat - Mike
Hey everyone.
Im just thinking, surley its possible to create a pseudo 3d object on our diamond usuing the gsensor.
Basically, generate a cube shape on screen.
then when we tilt the device to the side, morph the cube to the side, same for up and down.
With pseudo 3d you need to be careful of viewing angle for it to work, but if we work this like we are holding the phone in front of us then we should be ok for someone to at least start a proof of concept?
Closest thing i saw was the diamond cubes app, that should be a good start for someone drawing the cubes, all that would need doing is morph the cube on tilt.
Im just a thinker, no a do'er lol if anyone could take this up im sure people would love it.
That sounds really great. What also would be nice, to be able to scroll through TF3D using tilt motions. Maybe with vibration feedback.
Somebody already did that for the Iphone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnhFRr7DBGg
3D plane
Here is a very rough and basic application that reacts to the movements of your diamond: Plane Sensor
It is not yet fully 3D, but the plane can be seen from different angles. Try turning your Diamond in (landscape) different directions.
It is also movement based in the sense that the sound will only be there if a movement is detected.
I think I can easily create a cube that would react to the movements. Let me have a try, could take a few days, because I have a queue of ideas to implement now
The one on the iphone is not only a gen sensor, note that the character will turn while the iphone is turning.
If a device has a digital compass this will be a piece of cake but while it hasn't, I think the only method is to detect the "slightly angle" change of the device while turning. For example, assume the device is place on a table of 5 degree X-direction, when the device is turned for 180 degree, the angle will changed to -5 degree X-direction, and the character will follow to have a 180 degree turn --- which is a simply sin cos calcutation.
Elusiv said:
Somebody already did that for the Iphone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnhFRr7DBGg
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Thats fake tho. Theres another thread about this somewhere, its not real.
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Thats fake tho. Theres another thread about this somewhere, its not real.
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why do you think it is fake?
in direct3d you specify 3 planes, X, Y, and Z
you can animate anything into it an you can turn any of the axes
only the visible stuff is calculated and displayed
i think it's real, i think these axes are turned through the accelerometer
no?
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why do you think it is fake?
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Because it is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420703
http://gizmodo.com/5041304/ihologram-3d-iphone-app-was-just-for-show-not-peek-into-alternate-world
Yeah that iphone dude did it as an idea to inspire developers.
So... back to the bog standard proof of concept cube idea, anyone thinking of taking up the challenge?
I have some meteorological and aviation training and so I downloaded PressureNet, but when I look at my readings history it is not corresponding to the pressure measured by actual NWS equipment. My barometer seems to be stuck between 28.88 and 28.90. Right now the airport 1.5 miles away from my house is measuring 30.19 but mine still says 28.89.
I have verified the reading that PressureNet is displaying with several other barometer apps and they are all the same. I'm thinking I may have defective barometer.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this? BTW my phone is a second batch 8GB made in Korea.
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I have some meteorological and aviation training and so I downloaded PressureNet, but when I look at my readings history it is not corresponding to the pressure measured by actual NWS equipment. My barometer seems to be stuck between 28.88 and 28.90. Right now the airport 1.5 miles away from my house is measuring 30.19 but mine still says 28.89.
I have verified the reading that PressureNet is displaying with several other barometer apps and they are all the same. I'm thinking I may have defective barometer.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this? BTW my phone is a second batch 8GB made in Korea.
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You have to also consider that you are comparing a phone's barometer to professional-grade equipment.
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You have to also consider that you are comparing a phone's barometer to professional-grade equipment.
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The range of barometric pressure is basically only 28.00 to 32.00, so for it to be off nearly an inch and half means it not doing anything at all. And the historical logging is no better, it only stays between 28.8 to 28.9, when it should be changing with the weather.
I noticed mine to be inaccurate too, but it's on it's way back to LG due to rear glass breakage. I too work in Aviation, and was wondering if phone could be of use, but like yours, mine read low.
What altitude are you guys at? Note that atmospheric pressure reported in aviation and weather are corrected for source altitude, and the phone is not. If you are not at sea level, it will always read low.
Hey, quick question. Is anyone else's spring terminal in the bottom-right-most corner too low to make contact with the back? Mine is and my gps seems a little inaccurate compared with other phones ive had in the past. Just wondering if this could be it.
There's lot of them. Bend then slightly up with a plastic knife something. Took my galaxy note 4 apart and did same thing to all the contacts. Got improved reception and GPS working again.
Yeah, I probed a little with a little pick tool but they're so small I need something even tinier like a sewing needle. And it looks like ill have better luck if I remove the back shell as there isnt much room to get at it as is. It is so low I wondered if it was intentional. Hence the reason I asked on here. When I look across the edge of the phone I can see the others peek above the plastic but this one shows nothing. Hope that makes sense, it is an awkward visual to describe.
I'm disappointed that I even have to consider opening my brand new expensive phone. But I also
dont want to fork over $20 to Tmobile to swap it. I've owned the G2 and the G5 before this and both of them had faults requiring replacement as well.
Mine is too, leave it
Hmm...strange. I just tested mine without my case or the battery cover, and my GPS locked on faster and better than it ever has since getting this phone. Seeing how recessed that connector is, I'd have to say it was intentional, though I'm not sure why it was made that way since there is a contact pad on the battery cover in that spot. I'm going to have to agree with wing_addict_usa, and say leave it as it is.
My gps sucks with just a simple plastic case on the phone. It goes bonkers. I swear it's the gyro/compass thing in the phone.
Did you calibrate it? And I didn't lay it on the camera lens. Just a flat surface with camera lens hanging off the edge.
Thanks for the replies, glad to know my spring comtact is normal. At least I can look elsewhere for the cause.
I've done the figure 8 calibration while in Google maps with no change. Using the "GPS Test" app it was struggling to stay under 35ft of accuracy.
The problem seems to be a little inconsistent though. After posting I was able to eventually get between 15 and 20 feet of accuracy. I wonder if it is emf noise while data polling or noise while charging that could be interfering with the reception of gps signal.
The poor reception occurred with my phone on a magnetic holder attached to my windshield driving on interstate highway. Other phones of mine normally get pretty good signal in that situation.
Ill keep an eye on it and post any new findings but for now I'm kinda stumped. GPS worked fine up until the day of my posting.
To be honest, I completely forgot about calibrating the GPS. It has been so long since I've had to do it since my last few phones had great GPS radios, and were accurate out of the box. I calibrated mine last night after having to look up how to do it again, and it seemed better this morning. Still not as accurate as the M8 I upgraded from, but now it's not all over the place like it was.
How do you calibrate it?
Just an update to my situation. I seem to be getting better reception now but not as good as my alcatel idol 3 5.5" . I can get down to 15ft of accuracy on the v20 and 10 ft accuracy on Idol 3 in same location.
Btw, The GPS antenna is located in the top plastic piece which has metal tabs that make contact with more of those metal springs. I removed mine and put it back on to see if I could get a better connection. It seemed pretty snug though and not much chance for a weak connection.
I'm not totally convinced that was the issue but I'm happy for now as the navigation seems to be more reliable.
Oh and the calibration is not the gps but the gyros so that the maps orientate correctly to the position your phone is in. Its done by moving the phone in a figure 8 pattern. There is also a leveling calibration in the menu somewhere that has you set the phone on known level surface and then press calibrate to zero the level to the phones position.
The figure 8 is the one I was referring to though and now that I think of it, not much use for GPS reception.