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I have an idea for an application which i don't think exists at present. Because of my lack of in depth knowledge of XDA programming and hardware i could do with some advice on whether its a non-starter or not.
Many top of the range vehicles these days have the option of an in-car rear view camera/viewer.
My idea was for a retro fit device/application that would use an XDA as the viewing screen in conjunction with some type of wired/wireless video camera (usb or otherwise) that would be small enough to permanently mount on the rear of a vehicle. Obviously this video device would need to be small and inconspicous as well as weather proof. The quality of the video would not need to be particularly brilliant as it is mainly used for parking situations. It could also have security uses (time lapse/motion triggered recording).
Anyone out there seen anything like this in existance or have any idea of wether or not this is pheasable?
Tony Black
Hereford, UK
Orange SPV M2000 (using Imate 1.4 ROM)
I have had that thought many times, and I would love to fit it in my car.
Haven't done anything to find any SW for this though, as I'm wating for the Universal with USB, as i think you would need USB to get a nice clean video through put.
I would buy the SW imediatly!
Couldn't you use a wifi camera and wifi receiver in your PDA, and stream video from one to the other?
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If such a thing existed. The problem with normal USB webcams is that you need to plug them into a device that can act as a USB Host.
That was exactly why I suggested wifi.
There are a couple of PDAs with USB host facility (old Toshiba I think?) but ignoring that option, look here for an idea.
It's not particulaly neat, but similar to what I had in mind - that article is called "Monitor your home with a Wi-Fi Webcam". It requires a TCP camera connected to a wifi router. I've never seen a camera with wifi built in, but it wouldn't be impossible I think. Messy setup though.
However, for your needs, I think you don't even need to use the PDA part. You can buy a radio micro camera for less than £30, eg here and buy a colour screen for around £40. Find a way to power them with an inverter and you'll be "golden" :wink:
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I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.
i would love it to film w****** tailgating me and get there number plates for reference
and maybe reversing into a space
I have looking for a solution for this problem. First of all: I have no WIFI at the moment with my MDA Compact. So I was looking for a bluetooth camera. I just doesn't exist at the moment, only Sony will be making a bluetooth camera, but I think it will be overkill.
WIFI it will be. An affordable camera is this one from Dlink: http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=297
120$ Unfortunately not wheaterproof, so you have to build it inside the car behind the window or looking through a hole. But I think it's the only affordable solution at the moment. Maybe I will buy the QTek 9100, so I will have WIFi on board...
Voltage supply is 5Volt, so a simple DC-DC converter will do (7805).
Any willing to test? I can't at the moment, but I'd like to hear from the results...
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I have looking for a solution for this problem. First of all: I have no WIFI at the moment with my MDA Compact. So I was looking for a bluetooth camera. I just doesn't exist at the moment, only Sony will be making a bluetooth camera, but I think it will be overkill.
WIFI it will be. An affordable camera is this one from Dlink: http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=297
120$ Unfortunately not wheaterproof, so you have to build it inside the car behind the window or looking through a hole. But I think it's the only affordable solution at the moment. Maybe I will buy the QTek 9100, so I will have WIFi on board...
Voltage supply is 5Volt, so a simple DC-DC converter will do (7805).
Any willing to test? I can't at the moment, but I'd like to hear from the results...
Success.
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martlewis said:
I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.
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Sorry to ask what's probably a stupid question, but what format is used for the IP address? I've tried typing in my camera IP address into IE but just get an error page.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks
djhonline said:
martlewis said:
I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.
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Sorry to ask what's probably a stupid question, but what format is used for the IP address? I've tried typing in my camera IP address into IE but just get an error page.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks
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How about http://111.222.111.222/ (not a real address but you get the idea.
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djhonline said:
martlewis said:
I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.
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Sorry to ask what's probably a stupid question, but what format is used for the IP address? I've tried typing in my camera IP address into IE but just get an error page.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks
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How about http://111.222.111.222/ (not a real address but you get the idea.
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Hi, sorry I should have said that was the format I tried. I wasn't sure if there was anything I'd missed. Thanks for reply though
Cheers
I was tinkering with my wing earlier and something pop out in my head.
is it possible to use the wing (or any PPC w/ camera) as a USB webcam? if so, what program should I use?
I know it sounds farfetched, but i gotta get the question out of my mind. I mean, the possibilities for modifications with these PPCs are endless. If one can be used as a modem by tethering connection to a PC, why can't we use it for webcam?
Yea it can be done I believe the software is "Webcam Plus". Don't expect too much because its a disappointment. There should be a trial out there somewhere.
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I was tinkering with my wing earlier and something pop out in my head.
is it possible to use the wing (or any PPC w/ camera) as a USB webcam? if so, what program should I use?
I know it sounds farfetched, but i gotta get the question out of my mind. I mean, the possibilities for modifications with these PPCs are endless. If one can be used as a modem by tethering connection to a PC, why can't we use it for webcam?
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yea, i have it and it works pretty decent. even works via wifi so no need for wires. can walk around the house with it and its still acting as a webcam. pm me for more info
wow that seems cool I haven't even got my wing yet but it should be here by teusday I can't wait to get it I am just studying alot so I don't Brick/Paperweight it
This seems interesting
I got it!
hi guys i have program , for my heerald, that make webcame from it i can launch it by USB or wirelees it was funny when i could show my new house to my friends by running over my home with PDA in hand
that program in not free, and you need crack, but i have both
(see atachment)
Ateksoft WebCamera Plus
the readme file was made by me, so im sorry for my bad english
and Crack is not for PC, but PPC!!!
I haven't tested it out as I don't have my phone yet but thanks alot man
name of that program?
Areksoft WebCamera Plus
alright fellas.....i got the webcam plus program w/ the crack...and it was.......alright....
i installed it during a lecture in my class, and i ended up messing around with it (not listening to lecture what so ever). i was busy taking pictures of my hot blonde chick in my class....but the resolution is very very very awful. I can see scan lines on my pc screen. average frame rate at low res (320x240) is 4.4 fps. very very laggy (i'm using usb cable to my laptop). somehow i can't connect the phone using wifi. still trying to mess around with it though. poor anti-aliasing by the software.
here's my take on it: decent software. it does what it suppose to do...barely.
anyone got decent setting for this software?
anyone else found other program that do similar stuffs?
ichigoismyhomie said:
alright fellas.....i got the webcam plus program w/ the crack...and it was.......alright....
i installed it during a lecture in my class, and i ended up messing around with it (not listening to lecture what so ever). i was busy taking pictures of my hot blonde chick in my class....but the resolution is very very very awful. I can see scan lines on my pc screen. average frame rate at low res (320x240) is 4.4 fps. very very laggy (i'm using usb cable to my laptop). somehow i can't connect the phone using wifi. still trying to mess around with it though. poor anti-aliasing by the software.
here's my take on it: decent software. it does what it suppose to do...barely.
anyone got decent setting for this software?
anyone else found other program that do similar stuffs?
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thats funny, i find it to be decent w/ no complaints and i'm using it via wifi. 320x240, and lower end quality. higher quality will drastically slow down video.
exactly ... you have to have a lot of light when you use camera, normal camera in your PPC will take 4 fps too, if you dont have lots of light! so go somewhere where is light and put 320x240 or even smaller, you dont need 320x240 for Skype or other progs.... put quality down too, .. i run it on 40 FPS on the second smallest roslution and works properly for me...
the worst thing that messed me is connecting PC and PPC by this soft,m but if you do that, you are winner
ya know....i take some of my words back a while ago.
I found the setting that will make the video quality less "grainy" and have more "true color" (instead of tinted looking).
I also able to mess around with wifi connection, and it was awesome. i felt like some kind of spy agent running around the house wirelessly with my phone as a secret video camera giving off live feeds.
I was also able to get yahoo messenger to recognized the phone as a webcam, wirelessly thru wifi. now i can do video chat with my friends from overseas without dropping money on another webcam. woooo hooo
i find this software met most of my expectations, but it made me wanting much more features from it. Wireless webcam is uuber cool. plug-and-play ability with yahoo messenger rockz (haven't check with other messenger client like msn or aim cuz i don't use them as much). but there are still some downsides i found.
First, wifi is a battery hog. Make sure your phone connected to a charger if u planning to do long video chat (or cyber sex.....whichever you prefer). I also found that camera connection thru wifi will be dropped if the camera is idle. I don't like this becuz i always got cut off in the middle of conversation.
Second, no sound support from the software. there's a microphone on the phone itself, but i can't use it becuz no support from the software. but then, i think it's ok, becuz sound support will make video framerate look much more crappier that already is.
so there ya have it. my two-centz on this thread. thx to all of you guys helping me finding this software. Oh, if any of you find/know a better software than this one, don't hesitate to post it here
CHEERS
ichigoismyhomie said:
anyone else found other program that do similar stuffs?
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You can try this..........
http://www.comvu.com/Index.aspx
cracks and warez are illegal and should not be posted here. that link should be removed
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cracks and warez are illegal and should not be posted here. that link should be removed
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Where at??
Please be gentle with me, it's my first time, etc etc...
I have a tandem bicycle, and me and the g/f often go off on longish daytrips. It is in the design of most tandems that the shorter person has to go on the back. This means that they can see nothing forwards at all. As she does the navigating this means I have to keep up a constant commentary of what junctions and landmarks are coming towards us while she tries to tally that with the OS map.
I have a pair of HD2s and an old Touch HD with plenty of spare batteries, car holders etc.
I would love to find a way to use a remote camera on the front of the tandem and let her use one of the HD2s as the screen, especially as it has CoPilot live on it which would make the navigation much easier. (I know I said rear view in the title, but I suspect fewer people would look at the thread if I tried to put what I really want up there, and it's no different really.)
I understand that the 'phone's usb ports don't have the required hardware / software to allow me to plug a usb webcam into them.
I suspect that the way forward is to use one HD2 on the front as a bluetooth camera and give her the other as the display, but I doubt that this will be easy, and it will use way more power than a hardwired system which is an issue on a 'bicycle. It already weighs 1/5 tonne with the two of us and some touring gear, so adding a big central power supply would be a shame but is probably inevitable.
There was a brief thread on this on XDA dev in about 2005:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243337&styleid=15
but it never went anywhere and will now be completely out of date.
Hopefully someone can help or point me in the right direction. Sadly I have no coding skills at all, so it needs to be off the shelf h/w or s/w...
Thanks for reading
ed.
wow...thats one big project you are thinking off...ok, all things cut short, your best bet will be a Bluetooth camera or a wi-fi camera/webcam. for the former, it can be done, but there arent custom drivers that you can just download to support it. even Bluetooth keyboards only recently started working with the HD2. However, what you can do, that will definitely work is a wi-fi based camera. im sure you are familiar with these. these camera have their own IP address and transmit the feed live via a wireless connection. from my experience, it works quite well, but it really depends on the gear you are using. if you are using a good wifi camera(im not familiar with the brands,but obviously the mid ranged ones will be considered good. If you cant find standalone cams, then buy a small wifi surveillance cam), then there will be a stable and lag free transmission. However, to get smooth feed, you need a good network connection. It will be best if you have a fast data or broadband connection on your phone. 3-4MBPS+ will be fine. Then of course, u need to enable your phone as a modem to connect to the camera. I have tried wifi cameras using a wi-fi connection, both on my PC and my HD2. It works smoothly. The cameras were fixed on R/C helicopters and worked at a range of 20m from the modem. Then again, i really have no idea how well it will work for your case. It should be ok, but not sure about 'good'. You can try!
Alternatively, a more compact method will be to disassemble your HD2 right down to the camera and remove the lens cover. Then, disconnect the actual camera from the phone. Get the correct ribbon cable from your local store. I do not know the specifications of the particular cable, but you try going to a smartphone repair shop that sells replacement cameras for the HD2 and take a look at the ribbon cable. Then, you can search for longer ones or manually solder low resistance jumper wires from the connections(there a alot of connections mind you). If you want to do this, please get info on proper disassembly instructions and do alot of research!.
i really admire your endeavor and although it may be hard, best of luck to you and hope you succeed, should you undertake this. Nevertheless, just some small advice...If you are also considering about the budget factor, i think it could be equally expensive or cheap to buy a purpose built remote camera which can connect to a screen.
-cheers
A wi-fi camera on a helmet would give flexibility as to what you were able to view ie could move head to point camera in the direction that one wanted to view
Good luck
Thankyou both!
Sorry I've been a bit slow replying, home internet connection has been intermittent for a week or so...
Kawshigan, can you clarify something for me, when you talk about "fast data or broadband connection on your phone. 3-4MBPS+" are you saying that I should be sending the data via the cellular network? If so that is not going to happen. I don't know where you live but here in Canterbury, a small city in the most populated part of the UK about 50 miles from London, 3G is a dream. There is a 3G service of course, but it is so weak that it is unusable even in the town centre, so trying to use it away from the town for my project will be impossible (and would be very very expensive as we get only 500MB / month here cheaply.)
If you mean forming a wifi connection between the two phones, which I suspect IS what you mean, then surely the speed of the connection is whatever hardware can do, allowing for distance which is about 3' in this case.
I agree that a ready-made system should be a similar price but they do not seem to exist. There is something in the US but it is very expensive ($600?) and is intended more for recording accidents really. certainly it has no nav function. I'm too new here to post links but if you Google on "cerevllum.com" you'll see it, beautiful, expensive & only half the tool I need.
It seems such an obvious thing to do with a smartphone (the rear view camera I mean) as mirrors on bicycles don't work well, and most of the components seem to exist, it just needs someone to tie them together.
I suspect that putting an external camera on my Touch HD is beyond me. My soldering skills are ok, but surface mount stuff is beyond me, not least because I'm 45 years old and my eyesight isn't up to it anymore...
But then again, even as I type this I realise what you actually mean, is to mount the HD2's own camera remotely at the front of the bike and run a long ribbon cable to the rear handlebars. Now THAT is a GOOD idea. Probably I'd start with the Touch HD as my HD2 is still my everyday 'phone and I hope to keep it that way for ever. When I get some time I'll pull the Touch apart and see if it is possible. How long could the cable be before s/n & voltage drop problems etc became too much, I wonder?
The helmet cam doesn't really work as the problem is not so much positioning a camera, (I can do that on the handlebars) but how to get an instant display of what the noggin-cam is seeing onto the screen of a smart phone? The problem with the helmet cam is that I think the viewer would have the same problem that you get watching YouTube videos where the camera is bouncing around and rarely pointing in the right place all the time. The Tandem has good suspension at both ends so it would be ok on the 'bars I think. ( Google on "VCA 2010 Race" for an amazing video that shows this problem a little, and no, we don't do that on the Tandem...)
So when you remoted the CMOS sensor...
Did you end up giving the "extra long ribbon cable" idea a try and if so how did it work (or not. Interested in how it came out.
I've been doing a lot of research and am now wondering if it's even possible to attach multiple external cameras to a rooted Nexus 7 (2013 or 2012)? And the next step would be what software (app) to use to display at once?
I've seen plenty of threads where one external back-up camera is added, along with some other attachments. And a few where the Nexus is attached to one webcam.
This is for offroad auto use, in a temporary (on the go) install with the Nexus in a mount. I would like to have multiple permanent external cameras in the front and one in the rear. Four would be great, but even just two would be useful.
I've seen it done with an independent multi display screen, but not on a Nexus 7.
Any ideas or directions to head would be helpful.
Any help, pretty please?
I'm stuck.
Unfortunately, I do not have a way of testing this as I only have one compatible usb webcam. However, I am inclined to think you can do more than one as the device should list them separately. Then, using some app to view the camera (I use Mirror), you should be able to switch between them. I know for Mirror, they are listed as camera 1 and camera 2 though I would imagine that you can add camera 3 and so on. The only issue is I don't know of an app which can display multiple, simultaneous cameras nor record from them. Best I can think of is manually switching between them, one at a time.
If I can get my hands on a second, cheap compatible cam, I'll test this out and post the results. I think you're biggest issue is finding something with multiple camera display.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
natesjk said:
Any help, pretty please?
I'm stuck.
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Technically yes! with every new camera the device would be able to open a new stream at /dev/video* , as long as you have ways to capture it through apps you can. However don't take my word for it as i am equally N00b. Let's wait for the seniors to answer
Thanks for the replies!
I just looked for Mirror app, but there a tons of mirror apps for checking your makeup. Can you tell me more specifically about the app? Who makes it?
When it comes to software and what apps to use, I've figured out different apps work with different usb webcams.
And I have seen some apps that allow you to do 2 webcams. Not sure about a split screen though. Then again, webcam specific apps (only works on 2-3 webcams).
As far as what type of camera?
Usb webcams, check. This is going on my front bumper, and if I could have more than 2, then they will be in the wheel wells. But how easy is it to make a usb webcam weatherproof? I'm sure that's a different forum.
What about CCD cameras? Would it work just the same I if I got a "bnc to usb" converter or a "rca to usb" converter? Then basically hooked the usb converter up to the hub or Nexus?
Can I use this ____ (Google: 4 Channel DVR USB 20 Video Capture Box with Audio) and directly connect it to an OTG-Y cable?
Or do the CCD cameras and the usb webcams produce different video streams (not sure if this is worded correctly)?
Will be keeping an eye on this thread for sure. I just got done with my dash mount and was looking to do the same thing. Mount a camera next to each rock light for when crawling.
Wil Badger said:
Will be keeping an eye on this thread for sure. I just got done with my dash mount and was looking to do the same thing. Mount a camera next to each rock light for when crawling.
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Well it seems that we are at the same stage of our projects and running into the same questions!
I just mounted the nexus in the Jeep and now I'm wondering if I'm just gonna have to use a single camera on the bumper and nothing else.
I'm still curious if any of the RCA type cameras will work with a usb converter. Has anyone had any success with those?
natesjk said:
Thanks for the replies!
I just looked for Mirror app, but there a tons of mirror apps for checking your makeup. Can you tell me more specifically about the app? Who makes it?
When it comes to software and what apps to use, I've figured out different apps work with different usb webcams.
And I have seen some apps that allow you to do 2 webcams. Not sure about a split screen though. Then again, webcam specific apps (only works on 2-3 webcams).
As far as what type of camera?
Usb webcams, check. This is going on my front bumper, and if I could have more than 2, then they will be in the wheel wells. But how easy is it to make a usb webcam weatherproof? I'm sure that's a different forum.
What about CCD cameras? Would it work just the same I if I got a "bnc to usb" converter or a "rca to usb" converter? Then basically hooked the usb converter up to the hub or Nexus?
Can I use this ____ (Google: 4 Channel DVR USB 20 Video Capture Box with Audio) and directly connect it to an OTG-Y cable?
Or do the CCD cameras and the usb webcams produce different video streams (not sure if this is worded correctly)?
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While it was apparently designed for make up applications, this app is the best I have found so far in terms of camera rotation, camera selection, and refresh rate. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yuvalluzon.mirror
hi
did you tried "usb camera trial" app of infinitegra? as far as i know the app supports two webcams. i didnt tried it because i have only 1 webcam.
yavuz.
aviola7x7 said:
While it was apparently designed for make up applications, this app is the best I have found so far in terms of camera rotation, camera selection, and refresh rate. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yuvalluzon.mirror
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hi
did you tried "usb camera trial" app of infinitegra? as far as i know the app supports two webcams. i didnt tried it because i have only 1 webcam.
yavuz.
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Thanks, I will try both of these apps!
Posting this so I won't forget and maybe it will help someone else out about hardware of different types of cameras.
RCA type camera - THE EXPENSIVE ROUTE (but already waterproof?)
I did some more digging and found where someone tried the EasyCap with a webcam on a Nexus 7, and it doesn't work. I looked at a bunch on Amazon (other different brands) and they all have a CD with drivers. So that's a no go, unless I could embed the certain driver to a custom Rom (way over my head). The 4 channel EasyCap video grabber says it can only display one at a time though, if it did work.
The only Video Grabbers that work without drivers on Android (that i could find) are these two -
OPR-HD879 UVC USB AV Android Capture Card
FEBON 100 USB CVBS UVC Grabber Card
These aren't that cheap (about $50 and $80 w/o shipping).
There is also a FEBON 188, which is a SDI camera video grabber, and more expensive.
I emailed the guy who makes these, he said they will work with any Nexus that will run a regular usb webcam. He also said they should work with multiple video grabbers plugged into a USB hub, but has never tested it. (the guy said he could make one video grabber card with 4 video inputs that would display to one screen for me though, not sure how much that would cost me)
Multiple video grabbers with multiple security cameras add up fast. So this is quickly becoming the most expensive option.
USB Webcams -
Only a limited supply works with each software app. Or at least that's what the software apps say on the Google Play Store. Is this correct?
I would then need to make it waterproof to mount it outside. Maybe taking it apart and installing it in waterproof housing. But that's not this forum either.
So it seems that the best way (for me) to approach this is...
1) Use multiple security cameras or mini cameras, then scrap the nexus and use a separate video display that will show all the feeds at once.
2) Spend a lot of money on multiple grabber cards, which would be over the cost of a separate monitor.
3) Use multiple or just one USC webcam in a waterproof housing.
Ok, now onto researching more USB webcams.
natesjk said:
Posting this so I won't forget and maybe it will help someone else out about hardware of different types of cameras.
RCA type camera - THE EXPENSIVE ROUTE (but already waterproof?)
I did some more digging and found where someone tried the EasyCap with a webcam on a Nexus 7, and it doesn't work. I looked at a bunch on Amazon (other different brands) and they all have a CD with drivers. So that's a no go, unless I could embed the certain driver to a custom Rom (way over my head). The 4 channel EasyCap video grabber says it can only display one at a time though, if it did work.
The only Video Grabbers that work without drivers on Android (that i could find) are these two -
OPR-HD879 UVC USB AV Android Capture Card
FEBON 100 USB CVBS UVC Grabber Card
These aren't that cheap (about $50 and $80 w/o shipping).
There is also a FEBON 188, which is a SDI camera video grabber, and more expensive.
I emailed the guy who makes these, he said they will work with any Nexus that will run a regular usb webcam. He also said they should work with multiple video grabbers plugged into a USB hub, but has never tested it. (the guy said he could make one video grabber card with 4 video inputs that would display to one screen for me though, not sure how much that would cost me)
Multiple video grabbers with multiple security cameras add up fast. So this is quickly becoming the most expensive option.
USB Webcams -
Only a limited supply works with each software app. Or at least that's what the software apps say on the Google Play Store. Is this correct?
I would then need to make it waterproof to mount it outside. Maybe taking it apart and installing it in waterproof housing. But that's not this forum either.
So it seems that the best way (for me) to approach this is...
1) Use multiple security cameras or mini cameras, then scrap the nexus and use a separate video display that will show all the feeds at once.
2) Spend a lot of money on multiple grabber cards, which would be over the cost of a separate monitor.
3) Use multiple or just one USC webcam in a waterproof housing.
Ok, now onto researching more USB webcams.
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any succes on this?
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any succes on this?
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I decided not to spend gobs of money...
I did plastidip a USB webcam, mounted it with a magnet to the inside of my bumper (it views through a slot in the bumper), got a usb extension cable and ran that through the firewall, to a Nexus 7 tablet with a OTG-Y cable (But the OTG-Y cable has seemed to not charge the tablet). Now I just run it direct when I want to use it.
I have tested it out once on the trail and it wasn't helpful. I plan on moving it from the center of the bumper to my passenger wheel well.
The webcam is to the left of the 3 lights in the center of the bumper.
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has anyone had any further success getting multiple cameras to work?
i myself have a rca rear camera installed, using easycap viewer, and also using a android head unit usb camera in conjuntion with the app usb camera by shenyao china in playstore for dashcam, but im having a dam hard time getting them to work in conjunction, as with the usb camera app, i can background record from the front usb camera, but if i then engage reverse, easycap viewer opens but just boot loops, so im now looking for maybe a hardware solution to switch cameras by external means, maybe relays, but im no electrician, and cant find any info if this would be possible, was thinking just using relays of some description to switch the power on an off, when rear camera is initialized relay will cut power to the front camera and vice versa.
Does this sound feesible?? if so what relays would i need?
was looking at some of the auto camera switching relay boxes on aliexpress, but they only accept rca connection, which is no good for my setup, front is usb and rear is rca via easycap, now i could get a rca camera for front, but then i could not use the app on the nexus 7 usb camera to background record ect ect
ive tried defaulting the dashcam to usb camera app , and the rear to easycap viewer, and like said above it just boot loops easycap viewer as the front camera is running in the background, and shows that both cameras connect and disconnect over and over
even thought about 2 easycap devices and usb cameras and i think id be in same boat, boot looping
what is very strange though is that whilst pulling my hair out trying to find a solution, i also have a wifi transmitter for rear camera, this worked poor as a rear cam due to delay/lag, BUT i could have the front camera background recording via usb camera app and also view the rear camera picture with reverse engaged without any conflict, but had to manually open the app for the wifi transmitter (wifiavin) to see the picture, which also was a pain
anyone got any ideas if a hardware solution to my problem will work, and parts and links would be fantastic
moiloon said:
has anyone had any further success getting multiple cameras to work?
i myself have a rca rear camera installed, using easycap viewer, and also using a android head unit usb camera in conjuntion with the app usb camera by shenyao china in playstore for dashcam, but im having a dam hard time getting them to work in conjunction, as with the usb camera app, i can background record from the front usb camera, but if i then engage reverse, easycap viewer opens but just boot loops, so im now looking for maybe a hardware solution to switch cameras by external means, maybe relays, but im no electrician, and cant find any info if this would be possible, was thinking just using relays of some description to switch the power on an off, when rear camera is initialized relay will cut power to the front camera and vice versa.
Does this sound feesible?? if so what relays would i need?
was looking at some of the auto camera switching relay boxes on aliexpress, but they only accept rca connection, which is no good for my setup, front is usb and rear is rca via easycap, now i could get a rca camera for front, but then i could not use the app on the nexus 7 usb camera to background record ect ect
ive tried defaulting the dashcam to usb camera app , and the rear to easycap viewer, and like said above it just boot loops easycap viewer as the front camera is running in the background, and shows that both cameras connect and disconnect over and over
even thought about 2 easycap devices and usb cameras and i think id be in same boat, boot looping
what is very strange though is that whilst pulling my hair out trying to find a solution, i also have a wifi transmitter for rear camera, this worked poor as a rear cam due to delay/lag, BUT i could have the front camera background recording via usb camera app and also view the rear camera picture with reverse engaged without any conflict, but had to manually open the app for the wifi transmitter (wifiavin) to see the picture, which also was a pain
anyone got any ideas if a hardware solution to my problem will work, and parts and links would be fantastic
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Curious on this as well. Would love the ability to create an app to open to a specific app. Both my USB webcam and frame grabber are treated similarly by the OS, meaning all the same apps can use either camera. However I've noticed my USB webcam takes priority. If I already have it plugged in and hook up the frame grabber, it still opens the camera app right to the previouslyplugged USB webcam.
I too, would rather avoid the relays, but that might be the only way.
already tried the5v relay route, worked on bench great , but not in the real situation in my car install still looping both apps, due I think to the response time of the relays switching from one device to another grrrrrr
i just downloaded from playstore dual usb camera by shenyao china, new app by developer, now I can use this app so long as it its opened 1st after my tablet loads after re awake from sleep, then selecting reverse easycap opens as expected, rear camera is viewable, then after reserse deselected, front camera is reconnected and viewable on the screen with usb dual camera app once more, works flawlessly, but its missing the auto record and send to background ect that the usb camera (not dual camera app) app can do, emailed the developer to ask if these can be added to his new app, as of yet no reply, but my fingers are crossed
edit- just had a reply from the developer and he says hes going to incorporate the missing features from the dual usb camera app, but will take a little time, happy days
I am a bit confused by your comments... you're not implying that you have to interact with the screen to switch between forward/reverse cameras, are you? That would be unacceptable for most people.
What I can tell you is I have a HIGHLY reliable solution using the relays and Tasker. Here's how I have it set up right now:
- Forward-facing/parking camera is always on. USB 2.0 IR webcam.
- When relay has UVC framegrabber/rear-view camera disconnected, Vcam2 brings up forward-facing camera by default.
- When my car hits reverse, I kill vcam2, then re-open (using rcjoycon.) This is as long as it takes for the device to be recognized and pop up with reverse view.
- After I leave reverse, I have a timer relay to wait 5 seconds to kill the framegrabber. At that same time, I kill vcam2. If I was ALREADY in vcam2 before going into reverse, I have tasker re-open the camera. Otherwise, it just falls back to the previously-open app.
It may sound difficult but it's not all that bad. Now, if I could somehow get an app that allowed me to specify a hard-coded camera mapping, I would pay good money for this.
Imagine a tasker-controllable launch of each camera view. I would enjoy this, so I could potentially record all cameras full-time, despite what I choose to view. I have a feeling the tablet would drain awfully quickly while recording, and a dedicated dash cam might be more realistic. I really do like the idea of a hidden dash cam though, that cops/criminals might not notice.
I offset the unavoidable drain on my N7 by using yet another timer circuit. When my car turns off, the tablet stays powered for 30 minutes. I detect the loss of power through my rcjoycon, which tells tasker to go into airplane mode, and gracefully shutdown what it can, then kill the rest, and turn off the screen properly. With this setup, I have no issues. I am considering installing a switch to allow the tablet to have power 24/7 for when I am away for extended periods of time. Since I leave my car on a battery tender during those trips, it could be handy to have potential connectivity to the tablet over Wi-Fi. (Just thinking out loud.)
I just wonder if anyone has setup a front dash camera with RK3066/RF3188 head units. What application do you use to to record video from USB front camera in the background? How do you configure this application to launch automatically on boot and start recording immediately in background?
Thanks.
I have set up some USB cam apps. Right now I'm trying to get composite IN to record, but. So far "CaroO Pro (Dashcam & OBD)" has worked out the best for me. All of the settings you're asking about are easily located and configured in the app. I can have it start with movement/when my car starts/when I tell it to. It also has the option to run in the background. The other feature it has is a floating widget if you like to either see your car information. Or to take you back into the main app. Another nice thing about this app is the it connects to your bluetooth OBD adapter if you have one. Giving you a lot more information if you are looking for that sort of thing. My second choice is "AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox". It does not have as many bells and whistles as CaroO, but it gets the job done. All other apps I have tried have been more of a hassle to use and set up. I would suggest trying free CaroO trial and seeing what you think. I am not sure if this helped at all, but I will be here to answer any other questions if you have them.
Has anyone got this working?
I have an Eonon G2110z head unit running KitKat and am trying to set up a dash cam. I have tried a "video in" camera (which i'd prefer to use) and a usb camera but all the dash cam apps I've tried ( about 10 I think) say they can't find the camera.
Is there any way of telling Android that the video in is where it expects the phone camera to be?
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I have an Eonon G2110z head unit running KitKat and am trying to set up a dash cam. I have tried a "video in" camera (which i'd prefer to use) and a usb camera but all the dash cam apps I've tried ( about 10 I think) say they can't find the camera.
Is there any way of telling Android that the video in is where it expects the phone camera to be?
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My USB camera works perfect and almost all apps recognize it. It's one of those board cams they usually use with Raspberry Pie/Arduino. It seems for the best results to look for a UVC compliant USB camera. I am not an expert in any way with these standards. But they seem to be highly compatible with Linux/Android due to them only needing to run off of a generic driver like thumb drives/external drives.
As for the video in/AV/RCA type, I still have not figured this one out :/
*A not much help rant that can be ignored: I did get an image to show up from my dash cam using a dumb/convoluted way. But it would always freeze. The flow was: micro HDMI on dash cam to standard HDMI to an HDMI digital to analog RCA converter. I have also tried the 2.5mm AV out on the cam to RCA. I think it was the same result, but now that I write this I want to go try again...
Sorry I am not much help. I hope you get this figured out. If you do, I would be forever thankful if you shared your results
I'm currently using Daily Roads with USB camera usually sold with those headunits. Problem with this apk is that it can't save last recoded file (when you switch ignition off). Can you confirm that carO pro saves last file properly?
wigglitz said:
My USB camera works perfect and almost all apps recognize it. It's one of those board cams they usually use with Raspberry Pie/Arduino. It seems for the best results to look for a UVC compliant USB camera. I am not an expert in any way with these standards. But they seem to be highly compatible with Linux/Android due to them only needing to run off of a generic driver like thumb drives/external drives.
As for the video in/AV/RCA type, I still have not figured this one out :/
*A not much help rant that can be ignored: I did get an image to show up from my dash cam using a dumb/convoluted way. But it would always freeze. The flow was: micro HDMI on dash cam to standard HDMI to an HDMI digital to analog RCA converter. I have also tried the 2.5mm AV out on the cam to RCA. I think it was the same result, but now that I write this I want to go try again...
Sorry I am not much help. I hope you get this figured out. If you do, I would be forever thankful if you shared your results
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Many thanks for this, I'll see if I can grab one of those UVC compliant cameras.
It seems to me that the apps just look for what android presents as the phone camera- maybe the trick is to get android to think that the av is the phone camera?
AV plays perfectly on the screen when I select the video player.
I used the DailyRoads app with a Logitech USB camera with decent success. I had to use another app to auto-launch the DailyRoads app on bootup. The only issue that I had was the camera picture seeming to get too bright or too dark in some situations. Manually stopping and re-recording the video seemed to fix the picture, but this was not ideal.
Since installing my new headunit, I'm going to give some other apps a try to see if the problem lies with software or my camera. Thanks for the suggestion on CaroO, I'll give it a shot.
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I'm currently using Daily Roads with USB camera usually sold with those headunits. Problem with this apk is that it can't save last recoded file (when you switch ignition off). Can you confirm that carO pro saves last file properly?
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Sorry for the late reply. I meant to check that night. I tested it twice with car0. Once turning the car off and letting the head unit sleep. Then turning back on right away. And again but let the unit fully power down and boot up. Both times Caro0 saved the videos perfectly fine.
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I have set up some USB cam apps. Right now I'm trying to get composite IN to record, but. So far "CaroO Pro (Dashcam & OBD)" has worked out the best for me. All of the settings you're asking about are easily located and configured in the app. I can have it start with movement/when my car starts/when I tell it to. It also has the option to run in the background. The other feature it has is a floating widget if you like to either see your car information. Or to take you back into the main app. Another nice thing about this app is the it connects to your bluetooth OBD adapter if you have one. Giving you a lot more information if you are looking for that sort of thing. My second choice is "AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox". It does not have as many bells and whistles as CaroO, but it gets the job done. All other apps I have tried have been more of a hassle to use and set up. I would suggest trying free CaroO trial and seeing what you think. I am not sure if this helped at all, but I will be here to answer any other questions if you have them.
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That Caro0 app works well but doesn't "Autoload at start-up".
I've installed a basic app that autoloads Caro0. Autostart - No root
In settings menu it only gives me option to save video to internal memory, Anyone any idea how to change from within the app?.
What USB cameras are everyone using? I want to pickup a cheaper one to test and see if I want to run a dash cam.
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shauneco said:
That Caro0 app works well but doesn't "Autoload at start-up".
I've installed a basic app that autoloads Caro0. Autostart - No root
In settings menu it only gives me option to save video to internal memory, Anyone any idea how to change from within the app?.
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I have no problems getting Caro0 to auto start. It'll open the app back up when my unit boots if that was the last screen I left it on. Or I have the setting checked to auto start once I begin to drive. I will have to look where my files are stored. I remember having issues with this too. I'm pretty sure I have them recording to a flash drive now. I will check.
carbonad said:
What USB cameras are everyone using? I want to pickup a cheaper one to test and see if I want to run a dash cam.
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This is the camera I am currently using. I had a friend use their 3D printer to make a case for it. Although, no matter what recording app I use I everything is too dark. It might be just the camera, but I'm looking for a way to make the overall image brighter without being over exposed. I think I'm just going to buy another soon anyways...
Hi guys!
Any luck with AV IN (RCA) video recording from back/rear/reverse camera? I have a Joying rk3188 JY-131 unit but not any look. The device coming with 2 cams, front\DVR is USB with night vision, the rear is analog camera. The front camera is not very good because IR LEDs working continuously and that make the video and picture quality very bad at day light Some suggestions to fix that problem?
I had an android rear view mirror and it can recort simultaneously with front and back cameras. The program is FireEye.apk, i tried to install a different versions at my double din, but no one work.
wigglitz said:
I have no problems getting Caro0 to auto start. It'll open the app back up when my unit boots if that was the last screen I left it on. Or I have the setting checked to auto start once I begin to drive. I will have to look where my files are stored. I remember having issues with this too. I'm pretty sure I have them recording to a flash drive now. I will check.
This is the camera I am currently using. I had a friend use their 3D printer to make a case for it. Although, no matter what recording app I use I everything is too dark. It might be just the camera, but I'm looking for a way to make the overall image brighter without being over exposed. I think I'm just going to buy another soon anyways...
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Hi wigglitz!
Any progress recording the brightness? I just ordered the same cam for the same purpose...
Could you post an image of your cam housing - or even better post the 3d printer file?
I'm using USB and have mine as a front camera (front grill) for curb stops mainly. My car sits low. Using the default DVR app as well. Works beautifully. Found a weatherproof usb cam specifically for it too, since most dvr cams aren't weatherproof. I love it!
wigglitz said:
I have set up some USB cam apps. Right now I'm trying to get composite IN to record, but. So far "CaroO Pro (Dashcam & OBD)" has worked out the best for me. All of the settings you're asking about are easily located and configured in the app. I can have it start with movement/when my car starts/when I tell it to. It also has the option to run in the background. The other feature it has is a floating widget if you like to either see your car information. Or to take you back into the main app. Another nice thing about this app is the it connects to your bluetooth OBD adapter if you have one. Giving you a lot more information if you are looking for that sort of thing. My second choice is "AutoGuard Dash Cam - Blackbox". It does not have as many bells and whistles as CaroO, but it gets the job done. All other apps I have tried have been more of a hassle to use and set up. I would suggest trying free CaroO trial and seeing what you think. I am not sure if this helped at all, but I will be here to answer any other questions if you have them.
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Any luck on a dvr function on the composite in yet?
I got a cam connected to it. When I select the AVIN on malaysk rom. I get the image of the front camera. But I am not able to use it for a DVR so far.
Did you have any luck?
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Any luck on a dvr function on the composite in yet?
I got a cam connected to it. When I select the AVIN on malaysk rom. I get the image of the front camera. But I am not able to use it for a DVR so far.
Did you have any luck?
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No luck sorry :/
The cam I wanted to use for this kinda died and I gave up searching for a solution after that.
I like the one that carjoying sells. I did not buy from them but have the same model.
https://www.carjoying.com/car-accessories/dvr-camera.html
It works great to attach to the back of your rear view mirror because of the shape of the body. I have mind there and the wires go up into the trim and you can't even see that it is there.
nixfu said:
I like the one that carjoying sells. I did not buy from them but have the same model.
https://www.carjoying.com/car-accessories/dvr-camera.html
It works great to attach to the back of your rear view mirror because of the shape of the body. I have mind there and the wires go up into the trim and you can't even see that it is there.
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I installed that camera on my pumpkin 5.1 and I lost the audio in the Music app and Pandora. I installed the app IONROAD and that did not work well it keeps crashing because for reason it requires internet to work. I'll try this specific one from Pumpkin to see how it goes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/311374450638?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll take a look on that app for the DVR recording Caro.
llaugerm said:
I installed that camera on my pumpkin 5.1 and I lost the audio in the Music app and Pandora. I installed the app IONROAD and that did not work well it keeps crashing because for reason it requires internet to work. I'll try this specific one from Pumpkin to see how it goes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/311374450638?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll take a look on that app for the DVR recording Caro.
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I connected a Logitech C910 webcam to my head unit instead of the crappy low-res camera that came with the unit.
Now I'm trying to find a decent app that will record in HD and save the files to an external SD card.
Autoboy works great, great video quality, but doesn't give me the option to record to the SD card, therefore it's useless for me.
CaroO doesn't seem to work at all with the C910, it connects to the OBD, but doesn't show the video (failed to initialize)
The stock Car Record app saves to the SD card, and sees the C910, but doesn't record in HD
Any suggestion for an app that will do what I want?