In-car rear view webcam viewer - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I have an idea for an application which i don't think exists at present. Because of my lack of in depth knowledge of XDA programming and hardware i could do with some advice on whether its a non-starter or not.
Many top of the range vehicles these days have the option of an in-car rear view camera/viewer.
My idea was for a retro fit device/application that would use an XDA as the viewing screen in conjunction with some type of wired/wireless video camera (usb or otherwise) that would be small enough to permanently mount on the rear of a vehicle. Obviously this video device would need to be small and inconspicous as well as weather proof. The quality of the video would not need to be particularly brilliant as it is mainly used for parking situations. It could also have security uses (time lapse/motion triggered recording).
Anyone out there seen anything like this in existance or have any idea of wether or not this is pheasable?
Tony Black
Hereford, UK
Orange SPV M2000 (using Imate 1.4 ROM)

I have had that thought many times, and I would love to fit it in my car.
Haven't done anything to find any SW for this though, as I'm wating for the Universal with USB, as i think you would need USB to get a nice clean video through put.
I would buy the SW imediatly!

Couldn't you use a wifi camera and wifi receiver in your PDA, and stream video from one to the other?
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If such a thing existed. The problem with normal USB webcams is that you need to plug them into a device that can act as a USB Host.

That was exactly why I suggested wifi.
There are a couple of PDAs with USB host facility (old Toshiba I think?) but ignoring that option, look here for an idea.
It's not particulaly neat, but similar to what I had in mind - that article is called "Monitor your home with a Wi-Fi Webcam". It requires a TCP camera connected to a wifi router. I've never seen a camera with wifi built in, but it wouldn't be impossible I think. Messy setup though.
However, for your needs, I think you don't even need to use the PDA part. You can buy a radio micro camera for less than £30, eg here and buy a colour screen for around £40. Find a way to power them with an inverter and you'll be "golden" :wink:
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I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.

i would love it to film w****** tailgating me and get there number plates for reference
and maybe reversing into a space

I have looking for a solution for this problem. First of all: I have no WIFI at the moment with my MDA Compact. So I was looking for a bluetooth camera. I just doesn't exist at the moment, only Sony will be making a bluetooth camera, but I think it will be overkill.
WIFI it will be. An affordable camera is this one from Dlink: http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=297
120$ Unfortunately not wheaterproof, so you have to build it inside the car behind the window or looking through a hole. But I think it's the only affordable solution at the moment. Maybe I will buy the QTek 9100, so I will have WIFi on board...
Voltage supply is 5Volt, so a simple DC-DC converter will do (7805).
Any willing to test? I can't at the moment, but I'd like to hear from the results...
Success.
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I have looking for a solution for this problem. First of all: I have no WIFI at the moment with my MDA Compact. So I was looking for a bluetooth camera. I just doesn't exist at the moment, only Sony will be making a bluetooth camera, but I think it will be overkill.
WIFI it will be. An affordable camera is this one from Dlink: http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=297
120$ Unfortunately not wheaterproof, so you have to build it inside the car behind the window or looking through a hole. But I think it's the only affordable solution at the moment. Maybe I will buy the QTek 9100, so I will have WIFi on board...
Voltage supply is 5Volt, so a simple DC-DC converter will do (7805).
Any willing to test? I can't at the moment, but I'd like to hear from the results...
Success.
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martlewis said:
I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.
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Sorry to ask what's probably a stupid question, but what format is used for the IP address? I've tried typing in my camera IP address into IE but just get an error page.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks

djhonline said:
martlewis said:
I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.
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Sorry to ask what's probably a stupid question, but what format is used for the IP address? I've tried typing in my camera IP address into IE but just get an error page.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks
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How about http://111.222.111.222/ (not a real address but you get the idea.

TheBrit said:
djhonline said:
martlewis said:
I use a wifi webcam in my babies bedroom, running off a 9voly supply. I use internet explorer on my BA and tap in the IP address of the cam to view images. No reason at all why you couldn't mount the camera in a car and powering a cam that draws 9v dc in a car would be a doddle!
Just save the ip of the camera in internet explorer favourites and away you go.
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Sorry to ask what's probably a stupid question, but what format is used for the IP address? I've tried typing in my camera IP address into IE but just get an error page.
Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks
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How about http://111.222.111.222/ (not a real address but you get the idea.
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Hi, sorry I should have said that was the format I tried. I wasn't sure if there was anything I'd missed. Thanks for reply though
Cheers

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Video Out through mini USB?

Has anyone looked into this? With the audio now being output there, is there another pin carrying video that's yet undiscovered? Thanks.
nope no video out from what ive researched. even if there were, its qvga resolution so you are fairly limited.
you could your soti pocket controller to control your pda from your PC, you get a real time feed of you ppc on your pc.
hope this helps.
adios...
It is definitely possible to do it (even that I have no idea how).
Ateksoft has a program called WebCamera Plus which let you use your PDA as real-time webcam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
I'm using it on my TyTN and it works great.
using a pda or symbian smart phone as a webcam is possible as the software captures the straming video and transmits its as data packetrs via usb or BT to a PC, in which it is then decoded on the PC and the image/video stream from the camera is formed.
Actual video out (such as that accomplished with notebooks) via usb on the TYTN is another thing - from what I have read it might not be possible.
Anyone seen or tried the MicroSD version of this http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdv.htm ?
its really funny u askd this cus just last night b4 I went to bed, I wondered the same thing
I googled video out via usb and found a 60 dollar cable that converted from standard usb to s-video and audio and I'm sure theres mini-usb to usb converter
=) so hope that helps. I'd look it up but I have no 3g here at my parents lake house =/ I'm connectd over gsm, just got here. I get no umts at all and barely any gsm signal. this craps slow
I looked on the net for the Spectec Video-To-Go microSD Card and found it here
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=139433&partner=froogle
It's $171.95. this would be great if I was still doing customer presentations.
Please note: This product does not convert the screen’s image into a VGA video signal. ... then what exactly does this do .. has me confused since some time ...
Also, these things require SDIO support .. not sure if TyTN got one ..
It'd be easy enough to emulate VGA on your device and use that for presentations, but your limitation is lack of an I/O to the graphic chip. As such, you're stuck with streaming the display data, which will be slow (for games), but perhaps perfectly fine for a slideshow.
Next prob though is the hardware - you can stream from device to device, but not stream from device to a (mini-usb) wire to a projector etc - at least the hardware issues are well beyond my experience.
A streaming projector might be a good solution. But all in, I think you're generally stuck for a cheap solution to outputing video over USB without a surrogate device in the middle. And if you're gonna have a surrogate, you might as well use that as the display device.
Check out nyditot for a VGA emulator.
V
May I suggest a better way? Simply install PC-based Powerpoint viewer on storage card. That way you merely need to drop your card into an USB SD reader, connect the reader to any host PC, and run your presentation. I do this often and avoid traveling with my laptop.
-Jeff
One reason I've always disliked the Ateksoft solution is that it requires installation of Ateksoft magicry on the PC. A true webcam solution should simply make the PPC act like a dumb webcam, piping the audio and video to the USB. We've all experienced those cheap webcams which you just plug in to your USB port, and MSN or Yahoo or whatever can pick up the device as an audio/video webcam, no installation of drivers required.
Software which does for webcam what Softick does for USB mass storage is what I'm after...
You didn't say what you wanted by 'video out'.. but I can tell you there aren't any 'unused' pins in the USB pinout. They're all audio or usb data. If the TYTN supported usb on the go (which it doesn't seem to) then you might see it turn into a mass storage device or webcam easily..
But for the moment, no, theres no pins to tap a composite or vga signal off of. I highly doubt the device has such a chip on board.
eh, I wanted to output video to my car A/V system. since I can sync the video on my device to my media center, that would be the easiest way to take shows to my car. so the streaming or flash solutions really don't address the problem for me...thanks for all of the thinking on it, though
ditto here
JEM said:
eh, I wanted to output video to my car A/V system. since I can sync the video on my device to my media center, that would be the easiest way to take shows to my car. so the streaming or flash solutions really don't address the problem for me...thanks for all of the thinking on it, though
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That's the kinda stuff i've always wanted e.i. connecting my PDA to the SVideo Input of my car screen.
Seems "easy" to do with activesync, but seems to cause trouble because of the lack of video stream on usb pinout.
I'm just letting out an idea : Might be possible to emulate an activesync connection and capture the sreeen of the PDA and broadcast it out on svideo.
(don't ask, I don't even have a clue of how to do that)
SOTI Pocket controler and My Mobiler can do that, any chance someone find out a way ?
TY Guys, have fun

What is by far the coolest thing you can do with your Hermes

I am currently getting bored with my Hermes, I have flashed about 10 Roms in the past few months and I have followed the herd on almost every customized look we can come up with (Black, Custel, iphone lookalike, kaiser lookalike) you name it.
SO I thought I would reach out and see what other people are using their Hermes for. First and foremost I use mine as a phone. Anyone else? I also use Tomtom for Nav and orb for music and videos. Once and a while I stream XM too because I have an account. But thts about it.
I would love to hear about what else I can do and what other people think the best thing they have found on the Hermes is. I'm curious to see how crazy it can get.
Links to the coolest things folks here have done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1010449&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=672628&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1011991&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1012249&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1209297&postcount=40
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1218608&postcount=17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1238684&postcount=7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1213780&postcount=4
Mike
when I'm bored I use it to mess around with other people's phones and pc's,
funny how so many people leave their bluetooth on nowadays on both phones and laptops
I also use it to surf the net in classes (no laptop policy)
anyone else \()/?
afguard17 said:
I am currently getting bored with my Hermes, I have flashed about 10 Roms in the past few months and I have followed the herd on almost every customized look we can come up with (Black, Custel, iphone lookalike, kaiser lookalike) you name it.
SO I thought I would reach out and see what other people are using their Hermes for. First and foremost I use mine as a phone. Anyone else? I also use Tomtom for Nav and orb for music and videos. Once and a while I stream XM too because I have an account. But thts about it.
I would love to hear about what else I can do and what other people think the best thing they have found on the Hermes is. I'm curious to see how crazy it can get.
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Orb is awesome (I was watching Anchorman on my commute home this evening), also I use my Hermes mostly for work, so tons of email (100 a day or so), attachment viewing\editing). TomTom is a life saver, as is GoogleMaps (saves me lots of 411 charges). Besides that day to day stuff, playing with ROMs and using it to wow friends and co-workers ("I forgot my ethernet cable! how am I supposed to get online now?!"..."Oh, please... allow me" along with a million other examples), wardriving, camera, mp3 player etc.
When I am bored I use the cameras three shot panorama mode to do funny things like getting a friend to do different poses in each of the three shots when the photo is finished its pretty cool. Seeing the same person three times in the same shot doing different things can pretty funny and if you have an imagination you can do some wicked stuff, ill have to look around for some of my shots and post them.
Psiodon
haha Mike Channon you smart ass.. lol.
I use my Hermes as a webcam.. .. The guy mentioned above likes to see me naked for some reason..
I know it is stupid, but I find it cool to run old games using ScummVM. Friends are amazed when they see (and hear) Monkey Island or DOTT on this device. (for the same reason, I have DOOM on my Nokia phone )
The Pebbles application (bluetooth remote control) is fun to play around with, as it offers a great deal of controllers (touchpad, scrollwheel, ...). But I haven't got round to making a proper interface for the softwares I use (at the moment, I prefer to use Puppetmaster on my Nokia to control my laptop, is this also displays data from the application on the mobile screen).
From a technological point of view, the internet sharing via bluetooth is IMO one of the coolest features of the device.
Of course, being able to view movies or get some work done on a plane is great too. And then there is PocketFMS: connect the TyTN to a bt gps, and you get a moving map flight management system (yep, for general aviation!); which can be combined with weather data!
It is a cool device... but could be more stable at times.
Jörg
I have a bluetooth to serial device, which means I can run terminal connections over bluetooth.. so I can use it to configure routers etc.. just plug the dongle into a serial port.. connect via the phone and there's no need to carry round a laptop for that anymore.
I also use it as a phone and pda of course for those things.. For a normal day it can practically replace my laptop for dealing with both windows and *nix machines.. Pretty good if you ask me.
If you really are that bored of it send me it I can put it to good use
(oh yeah and I play scummVM on it too )
sambartle said:
I have a bluetooth to serial device, which means I can run terminal connections over bluetooth..
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My I ask what kind of bt-serial device? Does it have its own battery, or does it draw power from the serial port?
I have no experience with such devices, but the reason I'm asking is that I wonder if it is possible to connect a bluetooth GPS to a Nikon D200 (this has a serial port for a GPS, to allow for coordinates to be embedded in the exif header). Of course, a setup like this is not supported (I mailed Nikon with this question), but they didn't say it wouldn't work (they hadn't thought of this).
Thanks!
Jörg
sambartle said:
I have a bluetooth to serial device, which means I can run terminal connections over bluetooth.. so I can use it to configure routers etc.. just plug the dongle into a serial port.. connect via the phone and there's no need to carry round a laptop for that anymore.
I also use it as a phone and pda of course for those things.. For a normal day it can practically replace my laptop for dealing with both windows and *nix machines.. Pretty good if you ask me.
If you really are that bored of it send me it I can put it to good use
(oh yeah and I play scummVM on it too )
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what can you do on a windows box via serial? on a unix/linux box: that must be pretty hard given its lack of VT100 support i.e. 80x24, and no wrap around lines.
having a satnav system...
me walking like a walking encyclopedia ..
wealth of info related to work.. (medically.. )
oh forgot to mention is i dont have to worry about mespilling something.
Orb is the best
The Slingbox player is always nice to have when there is time to kill.
The "coolest" (geekyest) thing I've done is use it to control my irrigation system. I have several Insteon home automation devices installed and when I needed to check all the different irrigation zone sprinklers, I just used the phone to remote in to the host PC and turn on/off each area while I walked around the yard and made adjustments. I could also use the same process to control all the lighting in the house as well.
+1000 for Orb.
V J said:
My I ask what kind of bt-serial device? Does it have its own battery, or does it draw power from the serial port?
I have no experience with such devices, but the reason I'm asking is that I wonder if it is possible to connect a bluetooth GPS to a Nikon D200 (this has a serial port for a GPS, to allow for coordinates to be embedded in the exif header). Of course, a setup like this is not supported (I mailed Nikon with this question), but they didn't say it wouldn't work (they hadn't thought of this).
Thanks!
Jörg
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Its one of these (I actually got it cheaper than this - from the manufacturer who also sells them on ebay himself but has none on there at the minute), expansys also do them
It's powered via a USB cable.. But i have a solar charging unit that outputs via USB and works fine with it.. so i dont need usb to use it.. does the nikon proivde 5v on any ports as that would probably work.. (maybe even the usb port if it has one and supports weird configs (not just to connect it to a pc as that wont suply voltage))
I have no idea if it will connect a bluetooth gps to a camera.. the closest i can try is linking it to my bluetooth gps and seeing if nmea flows to the serial port.. ill give it as go for you this week.
frustin said:
what can you do on a windows box via serial? on a unix/linux box: that must be pretty hard given its lack of VT100 support i.e. 80x24, and no wrap around lines.
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depends whats connected to the windows box .. or what software its running.. or what its purpose is.. (i work in telecommunications)
On a desktop theres probably not much point, but theres switches, analysers, ATM's all sorts of industrial windows installations that all have serial diiagnostics and terminals..
on a *nix box its pretty much the same deal.. if its running a serial terminal i can connect to it with mToken or Mobile Putty.. theres hundreds of different bits of serial kit you can connect too.. serial is serial doesnt matter that its sent via bluetooth to the PPC.
Works on routers and all kinds of switching gear.. it's absolutly invaluable to me!!
Cool things with the TYTN
I assigned VJCandela to one of the side buttons, this help locating the key hole to my door (home, not car, I am a responsible person!) when it's pitch dark and I polished a few with the boys!
This phone belongs in a James Bond movie, period.
possibilities are endless!
Orb is great!
The Slingbox pro is awesome!!!
Im was thinking the same think as far as what else is possible via these phones... the quest for home automation is what brought me here (via search)
I think the links in the 2nd post should keep me busy for a bit...
Thanks!
Xtra
frustin said:
what can you do on a windows box via serial? on a unix/linux box: that must be pretty hard given its lack of VT100 support i.e. 80x24, and no wrp around lines.
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Wuh?
Methinks you didn't read his reply all that thoroughly.
Routers, at least enterprise class routers have serial managmenet ports - hence him specifically mentioning serial in the same sentence as routers and nothing else.
I'm not even sure I know what you're trying to say regarding VT100 support - which is just one of many types of terminal emulation (based on the old DEC VT100 video terminal). Windows itself doesn't provide out-of-band management compatible with textual terminals, but many servers *do* have serial out-of-band facilities which can in turn talk to Windows running on said server...think lights out managmement. Most Sun servers have serial access to both the PROM and running OS, and you can redirect a serial port to a console in Linux.
I'm betting that when the OP mentioned managing Winders boxen with his Hermes he was thinking RDP.
But you knew all that I'm sure. =)
I'm a musician - I use it as a guitar tuner (PhoneTuner), I have a spectrum analyzer (HASA) for finding feedback frequencies when doing sound checks, I use it to record songs I'm working on with an MP3 recorder(AudioNotes), to record lyrics (Word, Notes, or even putting lyrics into a Task item so it will sync over the air with Outlook). I use ORB for streaming media from my server while on the road. I use the LED light as a flashlight mapped to the push and hold button with VJCandela. I use it as a timer for Texas Hold 'em poker to decide when to double the blind (SPB Time). I have an english dictionary, and a spanish-english dictionary on it. I use it to read ebooks (HaaliReader). I use it as an RPN calculator (CalcNOW). I use INAV for GPS guidance with a bluetooth GPS receiver when on tour.

WiFi Cameras?

So I've been trying to find a way to address a certain proclivity of mine. I'm trying to find a camera that is self contained wireless and operates on WiFi so that for example I could leave the camera in my car and view it from inside a store on my mogul. The second thing I'd like to learn how to do is to access another camera left at my house over the internet (securely) on my mogul. So any camera/security buffs out there here's your chance to show off.
For streaming video / sound, I use Orb and a Logitech USB webcam (extremely cool.)
I also use Panasonic PLC131's. The mobile interface is static refresh only, but they work great for my needs.
Awesome, Thanks!!

HD2 (x2) or Touch HD as rear view mirror...

Please be gentle with me, it's my first time, etc etc...
I have a tandem bicycle, and me and the g/f often go off on longish daytrips. It is in the design of most tandems that the shorter person has to go on the back. This means that they can see nothing forwards at all. As she does the navigating this means I have to keep up a constant commentary of what junctions and landmarks are coming towards us while she tries to tally that with the OS map.
I have a pair of HD2s and an old Touch HD with plenty of spare batteries, car holders etc.
I would love to find a way to use a remote camera on the front of the tandem and let her use one of the HD2s as the screen, especially as it has CoPilot live on it which would make the navigation much easier. (I know I said rear view in the title, but I suspect fewer people would look at the thread if I tried to put what I really want up there, and it's no different really.)
I understand that the 'phone's usb ports don't have the required hardware / software to allow me to plug a usb webcam into them.
I suspect that the way forward is to use one HD2 on the front as a bluetooth camera and give her the other as the display, but I doubt that this will be easy, and it will use way more power than a hardwired system which is an issue on a 'bicycle. It already weighs 1/5 tonne with the two of us and some touring gear, so adding a big central power supply would be a shame but is probably inevitable.
There was a brief thread on this on XDA dev in about 2005:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243337&styleid=15
but it never went anywhere and will now be completely out of date.
Hopefully someone can help or point me in the right direction. Sadly I have no coding skills at all, so it needs to be off the shelf h/w or s/w...
Thanks for reading
ed.
wow...thats one big project you are thinking off...ok, all things cut short, your best bet will be a Bluetooth camera or a wi-fi camera/webcam. for the former, it can be done, but there arent custom drivers that you can just download to support it. even Bluetooth keyboards only recently started working with the HD2. However, what you can do, that will definitely work is a wi-fi based camera. im sure you are familiar with these. these camera have their own IP address and transmit the feed live via a wireless connection. from my experience, it works quite well, but it really depends on the gear you are using. if you are using a good wifi camera(im not familiar with the brands,but obviously the mid ranged ones will be considered good. If you cant find standalone cams, then buy a small wifi surveillance cam), then there will be a stable and lag free transmission. However, to get smooth feed, you need a good network connection. It will be best if you have a fast data or broadband connection on your phone. 3-4MBPS+ will be fine. Then of course, u need to enable your phone as a modem to connect to the camera. I have tried wifi cameras using a wi-fi connection, both on my PC and my HD2. It works smoothly. The cameras were fixed on R/C helicopters and worked at a range of 20m from the modem. Then again, i really have no idea how well it will work for your case. It should be ok, but not sure about 'good'. You can try!
Alternatively, a more compact method will be to disassemble your HD2 right down to the camera and remove the lens cover. Then, disconnect the actual camera from the phone. Get the correct ribbon cable from your local store. I do not know the specifications of the particular cable, but you try going to a smartphone repair shop that sells replacement cameras for the HD2 and take a look at the ribbon cable. Then, you can search for longer ones or manually solder low resistance jumper wires from the connections(there a alot of connections mind you). If you want to do this, please get info on proper disassembly instructions and do alot of research!.
i really admire your endeavor and although it may be hard, best of luck to you and hope you succeed, should you undertake this. Nevertheless, just some small advice...If you are also considering about the budget factor, i think it could be equally expensive or cheap to buy a purpose built remote camera which can connect to a screen.
-cheers
A wi-fi camera on a helmet would give flexibility as to what you were able to view ie could move head to point camera in the direction that one wanted to view
Good luck
Thankyou both!
Sorry I've been a bit slow replying, home internet connection has been intermittent for a week or so...
Kawshigan, can you clarify something for me, when you talk about "fast data or broadband connection on your phone. 3-4MBPS+" are you saying that I should be sending the data via the cellular network? If so that is not going to happen. I don't know where you live but here in Canterbury, a small city in the most populated part of the UK about 50 miles from London, 3G is a dream. There is a 3G service of course, but it is so weak that it is unusable even in the town centre, so trying to use it away from the town for my project will be impossible (and would be very very expensive as we get only 500MB / month here cheaply.)
If you mean forming a wifi connection between the two phones, which I suspect IS what you mean, then surely the speed of the connection is whatever hardware can do, allowing for distance which is about 3' in this case.
I agree that a ready-made system should be a similar price but they do not seem to exist. There is something in the US but it is very expensive ($600?) and is intended more for recording accidents really. certainly it has no nav function. I'm too new here to post links but if you Google on "cerevllum.com" you'll see it, beautiful, expensive & only half the tool I need.
It seems such an obvious thing to do with a smartphone (the rear view camera I mean) as mirrors on bicycles don't work well, and most of the components seem to exist, it just needs someone to tie them together.
I suspect that putting an external camera on my Touch HD is beyond me. My soldering skills are ok, but surface mount stuff is beyond me, not least because I'm 45 years old and my eyesight isn't up to it anymore...
But then again, even as I type this I realise what you actually mean, is to mount the HD2's own camera remotely at the front of the bike and run a long ribbon cable to the rear handlebars. Now THAT is a GOOD idea. Probably I'd start with the Touch HD as my HD2 is still my everyday 'phone and I hope to keep it that way for ever. When I get some time I'll pull the Touch apart and see if it is possible. How long could the cable be before s/n & voltage drop problems etc became too much, I wonder?
The helmet cam doesn't really work as the problem is not so much positioning a camera, (I can do that on the handlebars) but how to get an instant display of what the noggin-cam is seeing onto the screen of a smart phone? The problem with the helmet cam is that I think the viewer would have the same problem that you get watching YouTube videos where the camera is bouncing around and rarely pointing in the right place all the time. The Tandem has good suspension at both ends so it would be ok on the 'bars I think. ( Google on "VCA 2010 Race" for an amazing video that shows this problem a little, and no, we don't do that on the Tandem...)
So when you remoted the CMOS sensor...
Did you end up giving the "extra long ribbon cable" idea a try and if so how did it work (or not. Interested in how it came out.

is it possible to add 3rd-party camera to android device?

I have a small camera which is added to my glasses.
I want to customize my android phone (Google Nexus 3) to be able to receive camera stream from this. The distance between them is about 50-80 cm.
Or even I want to move the primary camera in android device to add in my glasses. (extends the wire connect between primary camera and phone to 50-80 cm)
However, I don't have any experiment about it, so can you help me how to do that .
Thank you very much!
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masterdark116 said:
I have a small camera which is added to my glasses.
I want to customize my android phone (Google Nexus 3) to be able to receive camera stream from this. The distance between them is about 50-80 cm.
Or even I want to move the primary camera in android device to add in my glasses. (extends the wire connect between primary camera and phone to 50-80 cm)
However, I don't have any experiment about it, so can you help me how to do that .
Thank you very much!
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masterdark116 said:
I have a small camera which is added to my glasses.
I want to customize my android phone (Google Nexus 3) to be able to receive camera stream from this. The distance between them is about 50-80 cm.
Or even I want to move the primary camera in android device to add in my glasses. (extends the wire connect between primary camera and phone to 50-80 cm)
However, I don't have any experiment about it, so can you help me how to do that .
Thank you very much!
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I'd like to know it too.
are you talking about google glasses?
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No. I just need to connect external camera and smartphone .
Google Glass is too complex as much as I need.
i shut the sheriff but ..
i think it is possible but u need an app and an otg adapter.
or u have to switch off the 2 cams in the phone and android will recognize the 3rd cam.
when i plug in the external cam of an android stick, so android recognize the cam and and i use a cam app so i
can shut photos or record a video.
but the important think is to switch off the 2 cams or u have an app which allowed u to use the 3rd cam.
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Maybe it is possible to extend the wire of your internal cam, but I think you'll simply have to try it yourself.
Another way could be to add a wifi chip to your glasses and connect via WiFi-Direct to your Android device.
r3zin said:
Maybe it is possible to extend the wire of your internal cam, but I think you'll simply have to try it yourself.
Another way could be to add a wifi chip to your glasses and connect via WiFi-Direct to your Android device.
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How about a WIFI SD card? Such as the ones from EyeFi.
masterdark116 said:
No. I just need to connect external camera and smartphone .
Google Glass is too complex as much as I need.
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you mean connect usb otg to the usb port and connect a hd high resolution camera?
yes if you have the usb otg modules loaded. else modprobe and load it.
and then connect the camera.
or let me understand the question more finely.
you wish to replace the camera(s) which are on the system board?
yes that too can be done. you need the camera module and see if your cpu supports it and attach it. you need to do some smd work. which is bitterly complex.
hope this helps.
thanks
-paul
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you got a working keyboard? whats "Y not" ? makes no head or tail to me. i guess i dont understand this cool one letter language. it helps understand if you type fully. care to take an extra effort? type in fully. else i wont understand.
HOPE THIS REALLY HELPS.
thanks
-paul
masterdark116 said:
I have a small camera which is added to my glasses.
I want to customize my android phone (Google Nexus 3) to be able to receive camera stream from this. The distance between them is about 50-80 cm.
Or even I want to move the primary camera in android device to add in my glasses. (extends the wire connect between primary camera and phone to 50-80 cm)
However, I don't have any experiment about it, so can you help me how to do that .
Thank you very much!
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First off, you haven't provided enough info on what type of glasses you have. That is what makes the difference. Does these glasses connect to a DVR? Or do they have and internal memory that records and then then you down load it later? The camera in your phone is just that, its a camera. Its the firmware that tells it what to do and what you can do with it. Then you have a GUI that you use to control the camera and its functions.
Now from what I know about those spy camera glasses out there, they are a basic DVR type. Now they may have a wire to dump the memory or they are wireless to a remote dvr. So basically, you will either need to rewrite the firmware for your phone to connect it to the glasses. Or if they are wireless, you will need software to control the glasses. I am going to go out on the Limb and say your are SOL to do what you are doing unless you have made electronic and coding skills.
Reason why is, your glasses are wireless, most likely on a set frequencey in the 2.5ghz range like your WIFI cards. Or they are bluetooth. Which is very rare to find. They then transmit to a receiver that you will have to connect to a computer to dump the files from. Now, by chance tehy are bluetooth enabled, you may be able to sinc them to your phone and would need software to view them. Your best bet is go out and find a new set of glasses that can connect to your phone. Less money and effort then what you want to do. It will only be a few hundred dollars to buy them
TheStrokerace said:
First off, you haven't provided enough info on what type of glasses you have. That is what makes the difference. Does these glasses connect to a DVR? Or do they have and internal memory that records and then then you down load it later? The camera in your phone is just that, its a camera. Its the firmware that tells it what to do and what you can do with it. Then you have a GUI that you use to control the camera and its functions.
Now from what I know about those spy camera glasses out there, they are a basic DVR type. Now they may have a wire to dump the memory or they are wireless to a remote dvr. So basically, you will either need to rewrite the firmware for your phone to connect it to the glasses. Or if they are wireless, you will need software to control the glasses. I am going to go out on the Limb and say your are SOL to do what you are doing unless you have made electronic and coding skills.
Reason why is, your glasses are wireless, most likely on a set frequencey in the 2.5ghz range like your WIFI cards. Or they are bluetooth. Which is very rare to find. They then transmit to a receiver that you will have to connect to a computer to dump the files from. Now, by chance tehy are bluetooth enabled, you may be able to sinc them to your phone and would need software to view them. Your best bet is go out and find a new set of glasses that can connect to your phone. Less money and effort then what you want to do. It will only be a few hundred dollars to buy them
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i got no clue about google glasses. i dont use'em so i dont know hence i cant comment.
they operate on wireless aka 802.11 abgn? how much power do they hold? i guess its bluetooth. and you got friggin 79 channels in bluetooth. and if i understand properly then you need to scan all 79 channels which is also in 802.11 family. i suspect its bluetooth. 802.11 abgn wins on bandwidth and speed and bluetooth wins on power. each has its own merits and demerits. its upto user to choose. i should not be commenting except usb otg which is what i know or got one usb otg device. but then its not a camera. i sometime connect my buspirate via usb otg.
its awesome to play with buspirate.
i am not of much use here i am afraid i will have to pause. since neither i got google glasses nor do i have a 802.11 abgn camera nor a bluetooth camera.
but its possible with usb otg, thats the only knowledge i got. experienced users feedback is more important than mine. they are more skilled wrt to this, since i got 0 skills on this subject.
please pardon my ignorance.
hope this helps.
thanks
-paul
masterdark116 said:
I have a small camera which is added to my glasses.
I want to customize my android phone (Google Nexus 3) to be able to receive camera stream from this. The distance between them is about 50-80 cm.
Or even I want to move the primary camera in android device to add in my glasses. (extends the wire connect between primary camera and phone to 50-80 cm)
However, I don't have any experiment about it, so can you help me how to do that .
Thank you very much!
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use wifi dongle on ur camera...

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