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f posts, should I be worried about buying a Jade?

Hi all,
I've been posting in a couple of other furms about a phone for my GF (I'm currently running a touch HD, - previously a TP, a dimaond, and an Orbit)
I've pretty much settled on the touch 3G for her, but the lack of posts about this phone worries me a little. Is it not a popular phone? it seems to do everything you could ask of a phone (touchscreen, built in GPS, camera) and she likes the size etc.
why does it not seem so popular?
thanks

Hi
I think that the problem of the jade is the small dimension,that in this moment the people don't like.
The people like a "big" dimension (Hd and iphone stile).

It is the best PDA phone I have ever had. (With a new LITE ROM )
I think that it is not so popular because people who would like it bought Diamond or another nice PDA phone just a few months ago. They do not need the new one, especially when it has the same "power" .
I upgraded from Artemis, so the change was worth for me.

I think Jade is mid-entry PDA and it have nothing special e.g. big sceen, good camera, hi quality sound
So people may pick the cheaper one or the rich feature one.
But I really love my Jade, it very suit to me.

I love my Jade too
I have no regret in buying this phone, and after almost 3 months of owning one, still busy customizing my Jade.

I thing that there are not many posts, because in PPC forums discuss usually people whose understand to PocketPCs. Those people usually buy something better than Jade. Touch 3G is really mainstream. It's for everyone.
And maybe it's so good that it hasn't so many problems which than couldn't be discused on forums
I have one for about 3 weeks and I'm really satisfied with it. For it's price it's really good (I'm student so I haven't money on something like Touch HD)

It's simple: The HTC Touch 3G is _not_ being sold in the USA.

twisted-pixel said:
Hi all,
I've been posting in a couple of other furms about a phone for my GF (I'm currently running a touch HD, - previously a TP, a dimaond, and an Orbit)
I've pretty much settled on the touch 3G for her, but the lack of posts about this phone worries me a little. Is it not a popular phone? it seems to do everything you could ask of a phone (touchscreen, built in GPS, camera) and she likes the size etc. why does it not seem so popular? thanks
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Just buy it for her. She'll love it. This is the most VFM pda phone on the market... and the most cute looking.

I'm also having one and I'm absolutely happy with it. What was attracting me was the small size, the design but still having all the nice features...

well, it's here!!
I will spend sometime setting it up for her and installing all the apps I put on the Orbit for her, it actually looks pretty good. Small and need with a decent screen so hopefully she'll love it.
Trying to find a pink skin for it at the mo. Skinit.com have great features and allow you to design your own skin, but they don't support the touch 3G.
Might have to stick with a silicone case for her, not quite as nice but should do the trick.

twisted-pixel said:
Trying to find a pink skin for it at the mo. Skinit.com have great features and allow you to design your own skin, but they don't support the touch 3G.
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There are at least 2 pink skins...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451702

Congratulations on making the right decision! Please tell here to enjoy it! It's a great phone! Cheers!

sorry, when I said Skin, I meant a case...
a bit like www.skinit.com, but they don't do the 3G model

I think the main drawback of touch 3G when compared with touch HD is HD has a built-in G sensor, this makes HD can compete with iPhone.

twisted-pixel said:
why does it not seem so popular?
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I am not sure, WinMo is something that doesn't appeal to everyone, most people prefer the likes of Nokia or the iPhone. MinMo is more attractive for geeks/people that need office on the move, and a lot of that audience will be attracted by the more powerful larger devices.
For me however I don't want to be carrying around a brick, the 3G is small, unobtrusive and does as much as I need as any WinMo device does.

Would you do it again?

If you could have your money back, would you take it? Or would you keep your HD?
I'm considering a purchase.
Thanks!
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Sorry for being unclear. The last Poll choice should read, "No way I would give it back. I couldn't be happier"

No doubt, the Touch HD is the best phone I've ever had! Nothing else on the market compares (in my opinion). The design, the features and the performance all kick a$$!

Thanks Derrick. I'm especially glad to hear that from someone in the States, given that I'd be buying an imported, unlocked version.

Tref said:
Thanks Derrick. I'm especially glad to hear that from someone in the States, given that I'd be buying an imported, unlocked version.
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i think its ok... i'm about to post mine forsale so i guess i'd fall into the "get my money back" catagory.

After comparing to the iPhone and other Nokia phones on the market, i took a chance at the HD, i wanted it mainly because of the WinMo but in return you get so much more.
It is a beautifully built phone that most other phones aren't capable of doing (iPhone is one example)
My brother has the Samsung Omnia and the difference is phenomenal. If i was a person starting with the Omnia then i would not like WinMo, but that's until i modified every single aspect for him to have a much more beautiful aesthetically looking UI. The HD trumps the Omnia mainly due to the resolution but that's the beauty of WinMo, you can change looks whenever you want and still retain the great WinMo guts.
Get the HD, you won't be disappointed.

I am looking forward to a new one already. I love to tweak the HD, but it still not as fluent as I hope it would be. Next one will have an nvidia tegra chip, looking forward to smooth multitasking already, kinda sick and tired of the qualcomm in my HD.

I will probably ask for my money in a year or so

I'm happy with mine but there are still things I don't like:
1- WiFi reception is worse than my last ppc (eten M700)
2- Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) totaly screwed, instead of the old good way the stupid device opens the crappy media player from windows mobile whenever I press the keys on my stereo bluetooth device, I want to use my own player to listen to music, until now no player solved this problem 100%, waiting for a solution.
3- Can't use the TouchFlo, it's pretty but I prefer the windows mobile today screen and the second today, got all things I need without wasting ram, just want a usefull TouchFlo.

I think the Toshiba tg01 will give the Touch HD a run for its money, but as things currently stand, the HD the best wm device on the market, even despite its lack of physical keyboard.
Off course though the appeal of the tg01 will depend greatly on where you're located, as again, it only appears to work on EU 3g bands
damned carriers!!!
I've been debating changing my t8282 for a t8285 or if my money would be better spent waiting on the tg01 or getting the Pre...though the drop in resolution is sure to hurt...oh decisions, decisions...

I'd keep the phone, am very happy with it so far!

Unfortunately mine has started to have a problem with reception - like ALOT of people on here. As such I've sent it back. If I hadn't had that issue - I'd be more than happy!

@ Tref, what network are you on? If you're on ATT, your best bet is to go with the t8285, make sure to check.
I didn't even know there was a t8285 until after i bought my t8282

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@ Tref, what network are you on? If you're on ATT, your best bet is to go with the t8285, make sure to check.
I didn't even know there was a t8285 until after i bought my t8282
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I'm on AT&T. Thanks for the tip Doc. I hope my vendor has the 8285.

I'm on ATT and have had no problems with reception or EDGE network. It was the best phone out there when I bought it last year and it's still the best phone out there in my opinion. The only upcoming phone I might possibly consider waiting for is the touch pro 2 and that's only if you want a physical keyboard...if not, I'd get the 8285 Telstra Blackstone so you can have 3G on ATT.

Probably keeping my Touch HD until my contract runs out in about 6 months and then going for Omnia HD.
I like Symbian for the ease of use.
I like WM for the endless customisation.
I will never move to Apple!

Very happy with my HD 6 months on and regular reviews of the market place suggest that there is nothing out there to beat it.

I just want to say i will.
Because It costs me $1200 AUD to buy it
I want $1200 back and spend $850 to buy a new HD.

I will give it back, video playing is a big dissapointment, wifi is weak, and the sound quality is worse than all my former pda's
Taking photo's really suk on this thing.
This deffo will be my last HTC.
It is that XDA improves the standard htc's otherwise it was already be gone.

With standard ROM, it sucks. Even the new updated ROM is not what I expected.
With cooked ROM, I have to say that I love it. Smooth, fast, more user-friendly etc.
Camera could have been better, fast videodriver should have been included -- but compared to other WinMo-based units, the HD rox!
So, all-in-all :: thank you all cookers/developers out there, you saved my HD!

yeah, i have to say that too.
The audio and camera functions are disappointed me too.
I dont listen music and take pic with hd.
I do them by using my n95 8g.
That's really much better than hd.
But for me, hd is still my best 1st fav.
i love it, i think i wont change new phone for at least 2-3 years from now.

arrgh... hero or HD2.. cant choose ;0(

title says it all really... its upgrade time and i was set on the hero,,, then they release the HD2 and now im stuck back in indecision land again..... *sigh*
main reason im still pulled toward the hero is the upcomming jump to android v2.1 eclair in the new year,,,,
Main reason im pulled toward the HD2 is its just so damn sexy... and who wouldent want that screen!
i have had quite alot of experiance with the hero... but as of yet havent even seen the HD2 in the flesh so cant compare how they operate in comparison to each other........ Is winmo 6.5 as bad as alot of the reviews make out? and does the hd2 suffer from it?
another thing is although people say the winmo market place is pretty poor atm.... after experiancing the android marketplace im feeling pretty let down by it also,,,, yeah sure theres alot of stuff... but really 90% seems a complete waste of time.... really poor stuff i cant see anyone needing.. not to mention the games are woefull.... i feel myself missing my old N95 as it had better games than the hero i would say.. ;0(
i have no idea what the games platform is like on winmo though so if anyone could offer a little insight please?
soo.. what would u go with... the hero or HD2? help me out as my pac code expires in 6 days so gotta pick sumthin sharpish.. lol

If you complain a lot and get frustrated by little nuisance that comes with new technology, then get the Hero. Otherwise, get the HD2.

the hero is old , you can't buy a 6month old phone

How can you even be considering the hero? HD2>>>>>Hero. The Hero is a great phone, but paying almost 480€ for old hardware is not something I'd like to do.

Chivalry,
Answer to your question is simple; if you want a device that is predominantly a phone then it's the Hero, if you want a device that is a focused PDA then it's the HD2.
Also, as someone said above, if you don't like hassle then again, it's the Hero but if you don't mind spending weeks on end tuning and retuning your device (sometimes just to get it to work properly) then it's the HD.
I assume price is not a factor here?
WB

i have had both ohones, i changed from the HERO to the HD2 and can say the HD2 is MUCH better!! no questions and wouldn't go back to the HERO or android.

1. The main downside of the HD2 is that he runs windows mobile : it will give your geek friends with an iphone or an androphone a reason to call you a noob.
2. However, if you can live with that, just get an HD2. The screen is amazing, and the hardware is perfect for real multi-tasking.
3. Don't trust Gizmodo or Endgaget. These people just think that saying windows mobile is crap make them look cool (see 1.). Winmo runs well, and the HTC Sense interface will make you forget it's windows.
4. Windows mobile has a huge application store : it's called the World Wide Web.
5. If you're mainly interested in games, you should get an iPhone. It's got a lot of beautiful ones. Winmo has some too, but you'll have to deal with compatibility issues. Since there's no official API for accelerometer or multitouch, really few games will use them.
6. HD2 is really bigger than Hero. You can see this as an advantage or a disadvantage.

I had a Hero and like dit a lot Then my wife got HD2 as an upgrade and found it too large. So now she likes the Hero and I prefer HD2 over hero.
Here are the limitations of Hero/Android for me:
1 - Exchange support. Lack of tasks was an issue for me. Touchdown fixed it but still not as good as winmo implementation.
2 - Out of the box ms office support is another minus for Hero.
3 - Also windows mobile devices are compatible with Napster to go, so you use their unlimited downloads service in HD2 nicely. You cannot do that on android or other OSes.
4 - Speed is a big plus for HD2.
5 - Feature complete os for HD2. Things like VPN support, connection exceptions make it a better choice for me.
6 - Application availability for windows mobile. While it does not have a good marketplace with tens of thousands of applications, the essential applications such as voip software and video players make it a better choice for me.
7 - Live services integration and myphone service from microsoft are also pluses for winmob.
HTC Sense solves most of the issues with default windows mobile interface and even for non technichal people, it allows smooth transition from android to winmob and vice versa.
I like the Hero a lot and was not thinking to go back to winmob until wm7, HD2 has changed my mind.
However, the items above are pretty much personal and depends on your work as well I suppose.

Zunzun really sums this up well.
I was in the same seat as you, deciding between hero or waiting for HD2. I decided to wait for HD2 because of the sexiness and the screen mainly, and even though all the bashing of WinMo, I am not let down at all. On the other hand I like how you pretty much can change anything, which is why I always favor PC to Mac for example.

ALAS!
i am glad to see i am not not the only one stuck in this notion of indecision!
I had the Hero and when i got the HD2 couple of days ago my first reaction was "wow so similar to hero but so much better" the screen really DOES make a big difference honestly
the web browsing is sensational in a word
i agree with previous posts, the downside is winmo, but tbh HTC front end is so robust you barely notice it and it is much much finger friendly than it has ever been - once you have your basic settings sorted you will barely ever have to go back into it
although people compare the market place, i would agree with one of the guys who said that most stuff on the google marketplace is a shambles - it really is - its like Tesco Basics vs Tesco finest
Again if you want gaming get an iphone - better still get the ipod and use the HD2 wifi router option to connect to the net! this phone is very good, someone is very likely to bring Android to it and you can try that too but tbh HTC have done a very bang up job on it
Performance wise it is miles ahead of the Hero - i used to work for t-mobile so have had exposure to phones and the problems you get - for normal everyday use, i would get this phone over the Hero, simply for better user experience overall
sorry if that was more than my two cents worth!

Toss3 said:
How can you even be considering the hero? HD2>>>>>Hero. The Hero is a great phone, but paying almost 480€ for old hardware is not something I'd like to do.
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^ This ^
Because well, the hd2/leo is one damn hawt phone, but theres bugs in it that will make you pull your hair out (well in a matter of speech ofc, but ye, random signal loss, hanging sms, bugs with sd cards etc etc)
On the bright side theres alot of smart people here, and they already solved some bugs, and HTC themselves are appearing to take notice of all hd2 problems now, more and more 'fixes' appear

i moved from htc diamond (1.7+ year) to omnia ii
i really missed XDA when i moved to omnia ii
omnia ii sold
waiting for my HD2

immyl said:
i am glad to see i am not not the only one stuck in this notion of indecision!
I had the Hero and when i got the HD2 couple of days ago my first reaction was "wow so similar to hero but so much better" the screen really DOES make a big difference honestly
the web browsing is sensational in a word
i agree with previous posts, the downside is winmo, but tbh HTC front end is so robust you barely notice it and it is much much finger friendly than it has ever been - once you have your basic settings sorted you will barely ever have to go back into it
although people compare the market place, i would agree with one of the guys who said that most stuff on the google marketplace is a shambles - it really is - its like Tesco Basics vs Tesco finest
Again if you want gaming get an iphone - better still get the ipod and use the HD2 wifi router option to connect to the net! this phone is very good, someone is very likely to bring Android to it and you can try that too but tbh HTC have done a very bang up job on it
Performance wise it is miles ahead of the Hero - i used to work for t-mobile so have had exposure to phones and the problems you get - for normal everyday use, i would get this phone over the Hero, simply for better user experience overall
sorry if that was more than my two cents worth!
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Why is winmo a downside? Surely it's only a downside if you care more about how pretty the UI is than how powerful/flexible/feature-rich/functional it is? And surely if you're a member of this forum that isn't true?
It is a far more sophisticated OS than any other mobile phone platform. Period.

What to buy - HD2 or Touch2 - please help

Hi there,
I'm hoping for some advice from current phone users. I need to upgrade my dying Artemis. I'm deciding between the HD2 and Touch2 - because they're both WinMo phones (I know, I hate that, but I depend heavily on outlook and little baby won't give me the time or chance to change my ways).
Can people guide me as to why I should buy either phone (needs to be T-Mobile)
I need standard phone functionality, along with GPS/Sat Nav, Bluetooth, Wifi would be nice
Thanks

Don't get the Touch 2. Its the weakest HTC phone of 2009. Its small, it has very little resources, and runs slow (I've played with it). The resolution is smaller than on the HD2.
Just the specs should make you never consider the touch 2. Of course, all of the arguments are compared to the HD2's specs.

hey guys new diamond 2 = 180$

does it worth it ?
you guys sujest me to buy this phone or get iphone?!
i really dont know to pay alot.
looking some good phone in max 250 $
so this phone is good ? the diamons 2 = sensitivty of iphone ?
what should i buy?

any 1 ? 40 views no one replay.
the diamond 2 is good phone ? right now i have the kaiser
but i wonder which is better
wm with diamond 2 or some magic or hero with android

I would get a 1gb android phone before I would but the TD2, but it is still a great phone, especially compared to the Kaiser.

TD2 is a good phone, but has issues with the earpiece (appears that it breaks easily) and in general, HTC touchscreens dont seem to be of a very good quality (-> Newton rings).
I think I would buy a Samsung Wave S8500 (because of the amoled display), if not, definitely an adroid device.

Go for the iphone!!! all of the reasons that i didnt buy one have been changed/fixed by apple and im ready to switch. Ill sell you my perfectly good but slightly used TD2 for 100.00. if you dont want the iphone, but ill tell you now, if you want to stay with the at$t rom it sucks, and as soon as you start flashing other roms, you might as well resign yourself to the fact that your gonna be dealing with lock ups, and constant reboots every day, if you use it alot. ITS NOT THE FAULT OF THE FABULOUS CHEFS THAT WE HAVE HERE, its the slow processor and the crappy hardware. So choose wisely, if you only want to spend 180 on 1+ year old technology (and thats ancient by todays standards) dont expect much. I was sorry that i spent the money to upgrade my Kaiser to the TD2, other than size, there wasnt much upgrade about it.
Hope that helps
Alan

I had a Kaiser and now have a TD2. Like the others have said. Its a good phone. (if you turn off the HTC UI) the battery lasts a little longer and the phone is more responsive.
Im about to upgrade will be probably getting a HTC Desire or HTC Desire HD

I have a TD2, picked it up new for about $150. Very good for the money, loaded Energy WM6.5 ROM with sense2.1 & it runs perfect & is quite fast in most tasks.
With the button mapping driver and a few other good tweeks it is a really easy device to use.
If you are experienced with tweaking HTC/WM devices then this can be a very capable device & a bargain if you hunt around for a clearance deal.
Most other options will be a lot more expensive but a TD2 is not a bad buy for the right money

hey guys thanks all for the answer well the iphone is more expancive
for 100-200 $ i think diamond 2 will be good replace to my kaiser even if its windows mobile
and i am pracitce in upgrade roms all the time
kaiser need good room to fucntion .
i love my phone but he have some bugs and work slowly i think the diamond 2 will be good replace
even tho i dont need the keyboard of kaiser. never used it ;P
its great phone but heavy and not nice to go with him on the streets
i wonder which phone is better. iphone diaond 2 htc hero and which has the best sensitiviy
my sister has a milestone and trust me the milestone is fantastic with the androaid program.
but i love htc so much cant get out from it

dont know about the hero, but my new iphone 4 is way more responsive, and speedy than my TD2. Good luck with your new phone!
VonH

thanks lool but the iphone 4 is much more expensive than every other htc

btw if you tell me that i can buy diamond 2 in 100$ i buy it now