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Editing the Start Button

I use SPB Mobile Shell and I would like to make it so "SPB Menu" comes up when I press the Start button on the top left hand corner.
Is there a way to do this?

I dont think this is possible, but why would you want to do that, a pop up menu is great in my opinion.
I recommend you to assign the spb menu to one of your hardware keys, like the camera key or something like that,
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It is possible - for example QuickMenu can replace the start menu with itself. HTC EnlargeStart Menu does the same. Maybe it needs some kind of registry hack.

tomazez said:
I dont think this is possible, but why would you want to do that, a pop up menu is great in my opinion.
I recommend you to assign the spb menu to one of your hardware keys, like the camera key or something like that,
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I LOVE the SPB Menu and since I use my fingers 99% of the time on my Touch I don't really have a use for the built in Start menu.
I know there has to be a way to do this, I just hope it is a easy one.

I looked through my registry a bit but I didn't see anything that would change this.
It has to be possible.
Is there a way to do a registry dump, perform the HTC Start Menu Tweak and then perform another dump and somehow compare them to see what has changed?

With Wisbar Advance 3 you can map the start button to anything you want.

I installed Wisbar Advance Desktop to play around with when I first got my Touch. I uninstalled it because I didn't like the functionality. After the uninstall I still have Wisbar icons showing up in some of my menu's. There is no way I am going to install one of their bloated products just to do one simple function.

Hi, i am looking for the same Startbutton tweak.
I want to remove the Startbutton AND the word "Start" right to the button.
Wisbar Lite Taskmanager does remove the word "Start".
I'd like to know how this works, and somehow it must be possible to remove or reassign the Startbutton without installing WAD or WA3, a megapackage for only one function.

If someone has the skills to do this and/or write a simple program to make this happen I wouldn't mind compensating them. Either in $$ or Webhosting!

Nothing is being removed in most of these cases, the start button and or title bar is being covered up.

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Nothing is being removed in most of these cases, the start button and or title bar is being covered up.
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I don't want anything removed, I just want to change the link on the Start menu to point to something else.

bump it up!

I compared the registry with the large menu on and off and this is all I found. Not much help (for me anyway).
BIG START MENU
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"DropDown"=dword:00000000
"Enable"=dword:00000001
LITTLE START MENU
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"Enable"=dword:00000000
"DropDown"=dword:00000000

fowen said:
I don't want anything removed, I just want to change the link on the Start menu to point to something else.
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He says that it's not a registry tweak... maybe those programs relocate the title bar and put themselves in that positions looking similar with different functions... That is the way that evb used to work fullscreen (relocating the title bar, sip and taskbar)...

I finally gave in and reinstalled Wisbar Advance. I would rather accomplish this without using Wisbar but for now it will work.

RKeyScroll v0.4b - my gift to you - scroll any window with the keys

Hi !
Here's an utility to scroll the current window. And i do mean SCROLL, not jump page by page.
Since i got my first PPC, i didn't like the way you're supposed to read stuff, i wanted to scroll down, but pressing the down key jumped one page down. I wanted a smooth scroll, so i made one myself.
How it works:
1. Run the app
2. Minimize it (either with your favourite task manager or tap Start/Today) - DON'T CLOSE IT
3. From now on, the UP/DOWN keys scroll the content of the current window - smooth scroll
Volume Up / Volume Down also scroll (a bit faster) - this won't work on some devices that have custom use for the volume keys.
4. You can disable/enable when needed by mapping a button to RKeyScroll Switch (each tap switches between scroll mode / normal mode.
5. When you're finished with it, run it again, or activate it in your task manager and press ok in it (left softkey)
Limitations:
2. It doesn't work in Start/Programs and in Word/Excel (maybe Powerpoint) - I don't know why
If you find other programs (MAJOR PROGRAMS - WHICH MANY PEOPLE USE) that don't work, post here - please don't spam and don't post a program that doesn't need the scroll anyway.
I tested this on my Toshiba G900 (if scrolling with Volume keys, don't hold them pressed) and my wife's HTC Touch.
PS: thanks to Nagakubo Tomohiro (creator of PQz and PQzII) for trying to help.
Change Log:
Code:
0.04b - 26 June 2008
- command line options (by default the app has scroll enabled):
ss - switch scroll mode - only used if app is already running
son - turn scroll mode on - can also be used on startup
soff - turn scroll mode off - can also be used on startup
only use one command line option at a time
this is useful like this:
- In Windows/StartUp copy RKeyScroll Off.lnk to start the app every time the system starts with scrolling disabled
- In Windows/Start Menu/Programs there's RKeyScroll Switch.lnk -map this to a hardware button of your choice (thanks to fisch3009 for the idea)
- made the install easier - packed as a CAB - creates all shortcuts, for automatic startup you must copy manually
- G900 version has scroll switch mapped to camera tap (it cannot be remapped with windows anyway)
0.03b - 25 June 2008
- separate version for Toshiba G900 - this i can test on ;)
- fixed OK button on Toshiba G900
- when no scroll is possible, buttons do what they normally do
- added smoother scrolling on volume up/volume down
- changed the code to avoid future bugs ;)
- still a bug: when start menu/quick menu is opened, it still scrolls the window beneath
0.02b - 24 June 2008
- first release
Hope you like it !
RPG

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great idée, thanks man

hi rpg
is it possible to use fingers ? instead of up/down buttons
is it a problem using TouchFlo ?
salut monpsy , toujours à fouiner LOL

brunoisa10 said:
hi rpg
is it possible to use fingers ? instead of up/down buttons
is it a problem using TouchFlo ?
salut monpsy , toujours à fouiner LOL
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If you want to get your finger in the way while reading something AND get your screen dirty, use TouchFLO or SPB Plus for finger scrolling

Great Idea! I'm looking for a automated "timer" type scroller? Where you put like 10 seconds in the setup, and it would automatically scroll a page every 10 (or whatever seconds). No need to touch screen or dpad...

This is very cool. I sometimes have trouble reading through my thumb
I notice it still tries to scroll in the application that it can control even when it is not the current focus application.
Could you make it deactivate when the focus program is something it doesn't work in?
Also make it run in the background so I don't have to run it everytime I want to use it.
E.g. when I am in IE and I activate QuickMenu it still scrolls IE and ignores QuickMenu. Also you mention it doesn't work in File Explorer, likewise in Total Commander you can see the scroll bar move but the screen doesn't scroll.
Possibly have an exemptions list similar to FTouchFlo (I can see you don't like this) so we can add programs that we prefer the D pad to work natively in. Also any chance of kinetic scrolling?
Keep it up!

evojulz said:
I notice it still tries to scroll in the application that it can control even when it is not the current focus application.
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Fixed in 0.3b, i will post it later today.
evojulz said:
Could you make it deactivate when the focus program is something it doesn't work in?
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In 0.3b, if it can't scroll, the buttons resume their normal functions, so yes.
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Also make it run in the background so I don't have to run it everytime I want to use it.
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It's already like this - you just run it once, minimize it, and change windows, it will scroll the active one (unless there are bugs )
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E.g. when I am in IE and I activate QuickMenu it still scrolls IE and ignores QuickMenu.
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Fixed in 0.3b
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Also you mention it doesn't work in File Explorer, likewise in Total Commander you can see the scroll bar move but the screen doesn't scroll.
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For me it works in Total Commander. When i have more time, i will try to see why it doesn't work (how to make it work) in the others.
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Possibly have an exemptions list similar to FTouchFlo (I can see you don't like this) so we can add programs that we prefer the D pad to work natively in. Also any chance of kinetic scrolling?
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I don't like the idea of an exception list - i want to keep this as simple as possible. On my Toshiba G900 i can disable the scrolling with the camera button - so this would solve the problem of using the DPad as a DPad when needed. I will see how I could add this functionality to other phones (i just need the camera button code)
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Keep it up!
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Thanks, I will. And thanks for the very good feedback.

This program is a great idea, i missed this feature long time.
I don't like the idea of an exception list - i want to keep this as simple as possible. On my Toshiba G900 i can disable the scrolling with the camera button - so this would solve the problem of using the DPad as a DPad when needed. I will see how I could add this functionality to other phones (i just need the camera button code)
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Perhpas you can add an command line option to switch on and off the dpad scroll function, so everybody can map the software to his or her preferred hardwarebutton.

fisch3009 said:
This program is a great idea, i missed this feature long time.
Perhpas you can add an command line option to switch on and off the dpad scroll function, so everybody can map the software to his or her preferred hardwarebutton.
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That's a great idea !
I thought i would make the button configurable in the registry, but the user should know the code of the button. Your way is a lot simpler. I will add it in 0.3b tonight before posting it.
You saved me a lot of time.
Thanks !

Cool, will link to it in my next misc news article.

nice nice idea...

Maybe this is already known, but I cannot change the volume with the scroll-wheel during a call.
Perhaps you also fixed it in your new version. Tnx anyway.

johanromijn said:
Maybe this is already known, but I cannot change the volume with the scroll-wheel during a call.
Perhaps you also fixed it in your new version. Tnx anyway.
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Fixed in 0.3b.

0.03b released
still to do - enable/disable scroll with a button
still to fix - when start menu is opened, the up/down keys scroll the window beneath instead of selecting items in start menu

0.04b released - now has enable disable mappable to HW button

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0.04b released - now has enable disable mappable to HW button
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Wow, fast development
Installs from CAB and maps to my camera button great.
The switch command doesn't turn it on and off, just opens the RKeyScroll dialogue the same as the RKeyScroll On command. Is this supposed to happen?
I would like it to start and run silently and not even show up in the running programs list and then stop when the switch command is run again.
BTW, still doesn't work in Total Commander for me.

evojulz said:
Wow, fast development
Installs from CAB and maps to my camera button great.
The switch command doesn't turn it on and off, just opens the RKeyScroll dialogue the same as the RKeyScroll On command. Is this supposed to happen?
I would like it to start and run silently and not even show up in the running programs list and then stop when the switch command is run again.
BTW, still doesn't work in Total Commander for me.
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Weird, for me the RKeyScroll Switch disables/enables the scroll and the window doesn't get activated(just like i programmed it to do).
Oh, I know. You're closing the app and then running RKeyScroll Switch. Don't click "OK" - this closes the app. Just minimize it, and then press the button mapped to "Switch" - it will work. It will not activate the window again.
About the silent start: That's how I want it to behave, but i got sleepy, so... 0.5b will probably do that.

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"All Programs" link

Is there anyway to get an direct link to the "All Programs" link under the Programs tab so i can use it as a soft left or right key on my TF3D Home page?
I don't use the Programs tab, but love the program launcher when i click "All Programs"
I searched in the Windows folder and don't know what to search for.

you can use HD Tweak to do this as well as many other usefull things that will make the touch hd easier to use

HDTweak can only add the regular Windows programs to the shortcut, i'm after the HTC version.
I want to know what file it is cause i can't find it so i can link it myself.

Psygnosis84 said:
Is there anyway to get an direct link to the "All Programs" link under the Programs tab so i can use it as a soft left or right key on my TF3D Home page?
I don't use the Programs tab, but love the program launcher when i click "All Programs"
I searched in the Windows folder and don't know what to search for.
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Rigth on you! I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday! (I'm on a Diamond)
It would be perfect as an homescreen applauncher with great scroll feeling and zero loading time! without haveing to install a new app!
One thing I would like to see is a fast scroll alphabetic column on the right just like in contacts. other than that it is perfect!
I know about Touchlaunch but it has realy annoying loading time, and could not make the scrolling work satisfying.

Bump
come on! Someones got to know what file it is that opens the "All Programs" link!

[REQ] HTC Taskmanager improvement

Hi There,
If you ever used the "Close Button" plug-in from Spb Mobile Plus you prolly know what I mean...
The HTC Taskmanager looks all nice, I like it, but its only accessible on the Today Screen. Is there a way to make it accessible even when you're not on the today screen?
Sometimes when you're doing stuff you want to "alt-tab" to another program and this is an easy way to do it, or when you want to close another/all other programs.
I hope there's a solution because it really is an improvement to the taskmanager.

me too
sorry, no help here. I can only say "me too". I was actually just thinking about this today. I've had this phone for a few months, and it just today occurred to mr today that you can't close other open programs without going back to the today screen, only option is to "x" button back to today screen or hope that what you seek to close is in your start menu under 'recent items'.
any help or development would be super appreciated, thanks all.

There is a shortcut in the Settings folder in the Systems tab. However, I expect you don't want to go through all of that when you want to use it. As an alternative, you could use file explorer and go into the Windows folder, find the Task Manager program in there, copy it and past a shortcut in the Windows/Start Menu folder. Then it would be on your Start Menu. You would need to remove one other item if you were then over the allowed maximum number of items in there.
Is that accessible enough?

I'd rather not put it in my start menu cus there are other "important" shortcuts in there...
I'd rather have it in the upper right corner...

You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)

whiskeybro said:
You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)
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I tried it and I like it, Is there a way to make a backup of my settings?

It seems the program doesnt work as i wished it would. I worked with it for a while and I like the concept alot, but there's a major flaw. Sometimes when I make adjustments to, lets say, my alarm settings (winmo clock/alarms setings), and when I press [ok] the window minimizes (I set the one click to minimize), there's no way you can apply the changes because it will keep on running on the background. If I choose to close it then the changes wont apply. This occurs to many other programs I use in simular occasions when you need to press [ok] to apply settings.
I would still have a solution to the HTC taskbar though. I think I would prefer it over the WkTask taskmanager.

Change lower buttons functions

Hello, In rhodium the lower buttons are "Phone" on the left and "Camera" on the right.
How can I change this buttons to other functions as "programs" or others?
I try with Advanced configuration tools and other utilities but when soft reset all return with original values. My rhodium have Italian rom.
Thanks

Use HD Tweaks works on mine.

Use HD Tweaks with caution.. Some of the tweaks might give issues on TP2.. For one, its a know issue that one or some of the volume tweak would disable sound on your TP2.. There after, you make calls and you can't hear the other side..

brahmanto said:
Use HD Tweaks works on mine.
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Not work. Softkey not correct change with HD Tweaks on my rhodium

I too would like the answer to this one
Anyone know how to change the keys at the bottom?
Camera kind of annoys me since I occassionally hit the damn button and am getting lovely shots of the inside of my pockets!

rossclarke said:
Anyone know how to change the keys at the bottom?
Camera kind of annoys me since I occassionally hit the damn button and am getting lovely shots of the inside of my pockets!
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hahahahahahaha that is so funny

I used soft key applet and it worked great

Use Touchflo Detacher, you can set the softkeys on the homescreen aswell as in Touchflo 3D to any application or shortcut (ink) you want.
http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher
At the moment I have Camera and Windows Messenger

Hard Keys
In case you didn't know already, you can also set the Send key as a shortcut as well. Just go Settings > All Settings > Personal > Buttons

ilabstudios said:
Use Touchflo Detacher, you can set the softkeys on the homescreen aswell as in Touchflo 3D to any application or shortcut (ink) you want.
http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher
At the moment I have Camera and Windows Messenger
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Hi Can u show a screenshot how it looks like on your TP2?

Advanced Config 3.3 works a treat on TP2, and ys it does allow you tochange the soft keys too.

Jimllfixit said:
Advanced Config 3.3 works a treat on TP2, and ys it does allow you tochange the soft keys too.
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just to add to the above, the softkeys options are in menu->more settings (or something like that)

ilabstudios said:
Use Touchflo Detacher, you can set the softkeys on the homescreen aswell as in Touchflo 3D to any application or shortcut (ink) you want.
http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher
At the moment I have Camera and Windows Messenger
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Thanks for that simple hint! I was wondering which one "button1" was...

Jamiewalshe said:
just to add to the above, the softkeys options are in menu->more settings (or something like that)
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thanks a lot....
too bad there is no option to remap the (right) soft key for all programs, or did i miss something?

portos03 said:
thanks a lot....
too bad there is no option to remap the (right) soft key for all programs, or did i miss something?
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You can remap both soft keys (left and right) the same way: either choose the program from your application list shown in the pull-down window, or choose the application from any location on your device by clicking [...] path search on the right side. This way you can remap both soft keys to ANY program on your device.

with a reg editor you can go for : HKLM->Software->HTC->Manila
Here it is : HomeRSKPath (Write the path of the desired app)
Below is : HomeRSKText (Write the text you want to see in home right soft key).
Hope it can help.

Is there a way to just remove the two soft buttons and have the tf3d icons on the bottom? I am running an auto lock program and the phone button is not needed as I can use the hard button.