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remap the start menu?

Is there a way (i know there must be ) to remap the start menu icon to open something else in wm5 / wm6 pro? if so, how?
shouldnt it just be a reg hack?

bump......but i think its rather function in coredll, or wherever that function is...
it would be NICe to have wm5newmenu on that damn button imo...
i am thinking about changing image of m$ for something else...and i have almost same problem as yours...it may be possible with ROM kitchen...but..mabye not.

there are apps i have seen, just apps, that seem to replace the start menus with there version of a start menu, but idk how they do it

Hmm, if it is not possible to change the start menu icon functionality, it may be possible to make a workaround (something on the lines of wisbar)..

atomicshockwave said:
Is there a way (i know there must be ) to remap the start menu icon to open something else in wm5 / wm6 pro? if so, how?
shouldnt it just be a reg hack?
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I've been looking for ages! Only solution I've found is SK Menu. What it seems to do is overlay its own window on top of the Start button, & you can assign pretty much whatever you like to it (Tap & Tap n Hold)

how do I get rid of the startmenu?

I think the Cube is much nicer and I don't want 2 different menu interfaces its only confusing so do someone know how to disable the old startmenu? or ultimate make the Cube appear when I press the windows button

there is no need for, just dont press the menu button
the cube would need 10 sides to have all of the startmenu. sometimes you NEED the menu
why should the cube open with menu button ? it opens with gesture.
sorry this thread makes no sense for me.
i disabled the cube its nothing more than a ram eating nice launcher. and Ultimatelaunch can do that better and is easy to customize.

One of the 3rd party start menu programs has 2 options, if you press the little windows flag it launches the normal wm menu, and if you press start it gives you big menu, i spose it would be nice if the windows flag could launch the cube (and maybe chaged to a little icon of a cube) and the start bar would launch the normal menu.

because the startmenu isn't fingerfriendly, and its ugly oldstyle, and it's not needed to have 2 menusystem
both cube and startmenu. Or actually there's 3 menusystem, if you count in launchers from todayscreen.
I guess iCube could replace old startmenu.
also windowsicon already looks like a cube

PeacefulWarrior said:
because the startmenu isn't fingerfriendly, and its ugly oldstyle, and it's not needed to have 2 menusystem
both cube and startmenu. Or actually there's 3 menusystem, if you count in launchers from todayscreen.
I guess iCube could replace old startmenu.
also windowsicon already looks like a cube
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I see you are asking this for several days now. in all kind of forums.
I don't have the answer for you, but i will tell you how i would try to find the reg key for example.
I would take a program that takes over the start button function ( quickmenu)
Then i will take a reg editor that can compare 2 registries (CEregeditor)
ok
step 1. make a copy of your registry
step 2. install quickmenu
step 3. compare your old registry with the new one and look wich regkey's quickmenu changed and added. (with the option to replace the windows startbutton on offcource)
step 4. try to find the "one" reg key change and try to make it so that it will start for example biotouch.exe
I hope i did get you started, as i'm not a programmer nor i hae any interest in the function you want to make, i will not try to do it myself therefor i wish you good luck with it and i hope for you that you will find it.
Greetz,

how do i get rid of senseless threads ? hehe

thank you re-mi I will try your description
regards

go to the link in my signature, download the Classblack zip file.. and take vjtogglealphaii from it and put it in your startup folder in "/windows/startup"
itll take off both your start menu and your softkeys... if you need to change anything message me ill tell you how to change the registry

Here's the trick to assign panel button to other exe

Only works for exe (shortcut ".lnk" won't work)
Code:
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"

thats just linking to another application. but its not released for windows mobile use.

jackleung said:
Only works for exe (shortcut ".lnk" won't work)
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"
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NICE find ! Thx alot !!!!!
It works flawlessly with Quickmenu !
So.. I got my Startmenu-Button back !
Btw: I also installed the Blackstone FM Radio Cab so no functionality is gone from my X1. The Mediapanel is nice but.... Who cares...?
DocMAX said:
thats just linking to another application. but its not released for windows mobile use.
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???
Of course it is a registry tweak and not an application ?

What am i doing wrong?
i changed the reg key to: \Windows\CommManager.exe
but it still tells me that there is no panel manager instead of opening the communication manager.

anheuer said:
What am i doing wrong?
i changed the reg key to: \Windows\CommManager.exe
but it still tells me that there is no panel manager instead of opening the communication manager.
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I made this mistake as well, it's because you've missed the most important part.
1. HKLM\Software\SonyEricsson\PanelManager\ApplicationName
2. e.g. Change it to "\..\Windows\Pie.exe"
"\..\"
You must put that at the start. I did my comm manager and has to do:
"\..\Windows\CommManagerLink.exe"
Thanks for finding this to the OP as well, been looking to get this changed for a while!

i installed one of the roms that do not have panel manager installed. this trick doesnt seem to work on the rom

im confused
cansomeone pls explain what u can achieve by changing this buttoins function other than losing acces to the panel function :S or does this simply mean u can save cpu usage
pls reply with some insight
thnx

Uh... but if you assign your panel button to something else.... then how you gonna access the panels still?

This is incase you dont use the panels.
Like me... i have had the original rom, and 2 roms here on this forum (custom)
And with every rom i had the same thing.
Having tf3d and panels will crash my phone (when i use e.g. google panel and then hit the x for panel change, then i often need to remove battery and place it again)
i rather have the tf3d then panels if i have to choose.
so thats why i use the X for a different app.

AE Button Plus
Or you could use 'AE Button Plus' it works for me flawlessly. I can assign the Panel Button to just about anything I choose.

how did you asign something to the AE button?

how do i reassign another button to run panel manager? I tried to execute /Program Files/Panel Manager/PanelManager.exe but that does not bring up the panel manager

anheuer said:
how did you asign something to the AE button?
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In AE Button Plus main screen, select FILE menu and choose ADD BUTTON and the dialog box that pops up is waiting for you to press a hardware button...
Press the X-PANEL button (which will probably launch panel manager if it's installed, no matter close that down) it will then allow you to press in the dialog box 'ADD KEY' and also shows you the Key code...
The key code will be next to the newly created button in the list for you to assign to whateve you like.

fotoingo said:
NICE find ! Thx alot !!!!!
It works flawlessly with Quickmenu !
So.. I got my Startmenu-Button back !
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how did you do this? i want panel button remapped to start menu but i cant seem to figure it out there is no startmenu.exe in windows file??? what is the file called?
thanks

he uses QuickMenu 2.7 as a replacement start menu.

patterns said:
how did you do this? i want panel button remapped to start menu but i cant seem to figure it out there is no startmenu.exe in windows file??? what is the file called?
thanks
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Yeah, assign Quickmenu.exe to the panel button and you get a "startmenu" button. Search for Quickmenu 2.7 around the forum....

doesnt work
I followed your directions and can't get the x-panel button to run quickmenu. It still runs the panel manager. There's something else that needs to be done, and I haven't' a clue what that is.
At least I was able to load the cab file that makes panels work on the touch HD. So when I eventually get the x-panel button reassigned, I can still access panels (which I infrequently do as it is). I have yet to see the value of panels. I like running things in the background concurrently, i.e. listening to streaming radio or mp3, txt'ing, using GPS, or exploring on the web. Panel switching seems to halt other tasks.

Kinda works
Finally got quickmenu to work with the x-panel key. Another important tidbit of info is that quickmenu must already be running for the x-button to invoke it. Otherwise it loads panelmanager.
Another bit of info, as soon as you run panel for the first time (in programs, the touch HD cab adds it on install), the behavior reverts back to the x-panel key invoking panelmanager and not quickmenu. I checked, quickmenu is still running. Figure that one out. Very confusing.

i installed panel as a seperate cab, i dont have the panel manager in my programs and i cant seem to invoke it any other way besides pressing the hardware button

apprentice said:
Or you could use 'AE Button Plus' it works for me flawlessly. I can assign the Panel Button to just about anything I choose.
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I heard AEbutton plus cannot grab the OK button. Is this true?

[REQ] HTC Taskmanager improvement

Hi There,
If you ever used the "Close Button" plug-in from Spb Mobile Plus you prolly know what I mean...
The HTC Taskmanager looks all nice, I like it, but its only accessible on the Today Screen. Is there a way to make it accessible even when you're not on the today screen?
Sometimes when you're doing stuff you want to "alt-tab" to another program and this is an easy way to do it, or when you want to close another/all other programs.
I hope there's a solution because it really is an improvement to the taskmanager.

me too
sorry, no help here. I can only say "me too". I was actually just thinking about this today. I've had this phone for a few months, and it just today occurred to mr today that you can't close other open programs without going back to the today screen, only option is to "x" button back to today screen or hope that what you seek to close is in your start menu under 'recent items'.
any help or development would be super appreciated, thanks all.

There is a shortcut in the Settings folder in the Systems tab. However, I expect you don't want to go through all of that when you want to use it. As an alternative, you could use file explorer and go into the Windows folder, find the Task Manager program in there, copy it and past a shortcut in the Windows/Start Menu folder. Then it would be on your Start Menu. You would need to remove one other item if you were then over the allowed maximum number of items in there.
Is that accessible enough?

I'd rather not put it in my start menu cus there are other "important" shortcuts in there...
I'd rather have it in the upper right corner...

You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)

whiskeybro said:
You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)
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I tried it and I like it, Is there a way to make a backup of my settings?

It seems the program doesnt work as i wished it would. I worked with it for a while and I like the concept alot, but there's a major flaw. Sometimes when I make adjustments to, lets say, my alarm settings (winmo clock/alarms setings), and when I press [ok] the window minimizes (I set the one click to minimize), there's no way you can apply the changes because it will keep on running on the background. If I choose to close it then the changes wont apply. This occurs to many other programs I use in simular occasions when you need to press [ok] to apply settings.
I would still have a solution to the HTC taskbar though. I think I would prefer it over the WkTask taskmanager.

Shortcut/App to Launch HTC QuickMenu (Please?)

I have a Fuze with everything turned off but what I want (runs quick and smooth). I really don't want 3rd party bloatware and other "TaskManager" or "QuickMenu" applications. I am simply looking for the syntax/shortcut (or maybe small app to launch the built-in HTC QuickMenu that is in the top right corner of the Windows Mobile screen.
I like this QuickMenu and the options that are available... most of all I like that it's already a part of my phone (so hopefully nothing more to install but a shortcut). From what I can tell it's part of the "taskservice.dll" that is loaded in \HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\TaskManager\
Since the Icon in the top-right for the QuickMenu is so small (and I hate getting out the stylus) I wish to map a shortcut/command-syntax preferrably to Right-Soft Key, or possibly a hardware button like PTT.
I've contacted HTC by email and they simply said it couldn't be done but I know that's probably not the case... I just need a super genious hacker to give me the right syntax/steps to make it work.
Thank you in advance for whoever can help on this!!!!
Michael
*** Please Relocate Thread if I have somehow posted it in the wrong section. Thanks!!! ***

all you have to do to launch QM from a hardware button is maake a shortcut to programs. then, go into \settings\personal\buttons and select your program to run from one of your buttons.
you can also go into qm settings and select the option to replace the start menu.
also, QM is a third party app.

SVI,
Thanks for the reply.. I guess I should have clarified that I am familiar with the steps for creating a shortcut to an EXE however the QuickMenu that is built in to HTC's Fuze is calling a DLL at startup... so the trick would be how do I shortcut/call a DLL file that has been started up as a service??
I am not interested in any other 3rd party QuickMenu, just wanting to find the way to call up the one that is already installed on my phone... ie. by pointing a shortcut (or possibly small launch app) to start up the "taskservice.dll" with whatever tags/options to open the menu on the Today Screen.
Thanks for any additional info you may be able to provide!

Could you found the solution?

no answers yet
Sancho,
I have still been unable to find the solution, and would very much STILL BE interested in finding it. In the meantime I have just used a shortcut to the built-in Taskmgr.exe (\Windows\Taskmgr) or TaskManagerApp.exe also found in Windows. Both programs are different versions of Task Manager and I found that I like Taskmgr a bit better because I can switch to an open application using that version of Task Manager. However I still like the HTC Quickmenu in the top right corner (other than the fact that it is way to small to hit with your finger) and would love to find a way to point a shortcut to the opening it up while on the Today Screen so that I can see running apps, easily close all, switch to one in particular, or see my power & memory settings.
If anyone still has any ideas on how I might accomplish this I would be extremely grateful! Again I am wanting to do this Natively, using the HTC QuickMenu (Taskservices.dll) already built-in and not interested in installing another 3rd party app that takes up memory.
Thanks in Advance for any help that may be offered!
Michael

Thank you for your fast reply!

Re: Shortcut/App to Launch HTC QuickMenu
I just got a fuze and when i went through the settings i found out what your probably trying to do. Go to Start/setting/the small tab on the bottom that you would find your ''hold end key button''/ Hold end key setting. when you get there , they will be a couple settings relating to what you want your end key shorcut to be. then you will click on ''access quick menu'' (or something like that).

The HTC Quick Menu 2.1 (Build 1918.3631) settings:
(Start / Settings / Systems / Task Manager / Button)
Enable the "X" button to end running programs
End programs by tapping "X"
End programs by tapping and holding "X"
Enable Quick Menu on Today screen
(no more...)

I don't think that it is possible to find a shortcut for this. (do hope that I'm wrong and somebody can find the way and share it here though)
But I would like to recommend one of my favorite light apps which can realize what you desired for. It is called HButton and created by an xda contributor, please referhere:
http://hbutton.dyndns.org/
In Hbtton settings, the <Ok/Close> function actually point to the upper-right corner of the screen.
Think you will like it.

No, thanks, I don't want to install 3rd party apps. : )
I think, need to find a solution here, as under Windows the "rundll32.exe" the "taskservice.dll" to run.

Hello,
I use a litte script for that on my TOPAZ (Mortscript is a third party program, but for me indespensable)
Code:
SendSpecial ("win")
Afterwards, you can map it to a button

sudist said:
Hello,
I use a litte script for that on my TOPAZ (Mortscript is a third party program, but for me indespensable)
Code:
SendSpecial ("win")
Afterwards, you can map it to a button
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This MortScript script is call the "Win" button and open the Start menu.
This is not an option, not a good.
We would like to open the HTC TaskManager (on right-up corner).

sancho1234 said:
We would like to open the HTC TaskManager (on right-up corner).
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Oups... I understand now
Maybe something like this ???
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
Sleep 500
Mouseclick (470,10)

sudist said:
Oups... I understand now
Maybe something like this ???
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
Sleep 500
Mouseclick (470,10)
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Thank you. But I think the "sleep" function is not too stable for me. I wrote a similar script already, I have not had good experiences.

Dit you try :
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
WaitForActive ("Desktop")
Mouseclick (470,10)

sudist said:
Dit you try :
Code:
Show ("Desktop")
WaitForActive ("Desktop")
Mouseclick (470,10)
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Error, because the WaitForActive is need a ",": WaitForActive ("Desktop",)
I try with WaitForActive ("Desktop",[0-3]), no action.

wg5566 said:
I don't think that it is possible to find a shortcut for this. (do hope that I'm wrong and somebody can find the way and share it here though)
But I would like to recommend one of my favorite light apps which can realize what you desired for. It is called HButton and created by an xda contributor, please referhere:
http://hbutton.dyndns.org/
In Hbtton settings, the <Ok/Close> function actually point to the upper-right corner of the screen.
Think you will like it.
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WG > I looked at the link provided and I am not quite sure I understand. from the looks of it.. it would appear to be another Task Manager type application? But are you saying that when configuring the "<Ok/Close>" function and using it, that it will activate the Quick Menu on the Today Screen by "pointing ot the upper-right corner of the screen"? or have I misunderstood you?
If in fact it activates the Quick Menu on the Today screen by activating the upper-right corner, then it may be an app worth trying.
If you could reply and please clarify that would be great.
If anyone else has additional info to add on how I might do this natively that would be AWESOME!
Thanks in advance for your help!

wow... lol. ok so I guess there's been a few more posts since WG posted and my reply to his was a bit outta place.
But it sounds like Sancho unerstands what I am looking for.
I am not looking for another Task Manager/Menu, or the "Quick Access List" menu as defined by the "Long Press End Key" in the System Settings.
I am looking for the shortcut/syntax/code/scrip to access what is referred to in the Registry as the HTCQuickMenu (running taskservices.dll) and execute the drop down on the today screen from the small icon in the upper-right corner looks like: ≡ˇ
thanks!

sancho1234 said:
I try with WaitForActive ("Desktop",[0-3]), no action.
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Hello, sorry for the waiting (I was on a boattrip )
First you need to know how your desktop is called with this script:
You clic on this script and hurry to your desktop (the windowname is showed for 5 sec
Code:
Sleep 5000
X1 = ActiveWindow()
Sleepmessage (5, X1)
The you copy this windowname in the script
Code:
Show ("NAME")
WaitForActive ("NAME", 6)
Mouseclick (470,10)